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Is this the shittiest villain of the whole saga? What's
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Is this the shittiest villain of the whole saga? What's with the stupid name? Can a guy this big even wield a lightsaber?
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YOU HAD A CHOICE,

HAD A CHOICE
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It's a play on smoke, because he's a force ghost.
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No, but his name is fucking dumb
SNOKE
WEED
EVERYDAY
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>>64744811
YOUR NEW DUBS?
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>>64744757
Maybe a giant lightsaber ?
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>>64744757
He's a hologram you idiot
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>>64744949
Holograms are blue tinted, flickery and not giant.

He was not a hologram.
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>at cinema with m8 watching star wars
>snoke comes on
>both realise how retarded and ridiculous he looks
>"bro.. bro... thats you"
>"nahhh it's fucking you"
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Was snoke autistic?
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>SnokE
>plaguEiS

Confirmed for pottery
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>>64744981
When the planet is exploding there's rumble falling on him and you see it's just a hologram.
Did you people really watch the movie
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>>64745064
A cam rip, probably.
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>>64745064
So then they just fucked up the lore then?

After thousands of years in a universe suffering from technological regression holograms are now full color HD unless shit is falling on them?
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>>64744757
His silly name is intentional to add extra gravitas to his sith title reveal.

I do find it somewhat strange that his hologram is so fucking big though. I get a feeling it is to compensate for him most likely being smaller than an average human. But like Yoda his size wont stop him from being a force genious and a great fighter.
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besides Snoke, anyone here felt that General Lux kinda sounded like a retard when he gave that speech of his?
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>>64745164
It has been 30 years. I'm sure they have made some technological advancements since then.
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>>64745320
i think the approach to the sith this time around is that they're posers that aren't as much of a threat that they make themselves out to be

i mean we've already seen this with kylo basically being a darth vader wannabe

the problem i have with snoke is that he's cg, he looks weird as fuck (and not in the good way)
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>>64744949

This is a hologram, you retard. Notice the size?
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thought he was in a holocron our something like that.
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>>64745164
Old Republic lore is not canon anymore fool, as far as canon is concerned we only know about the span of time the films take place in
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>>64745414
also his name is dumb, if the point is to be intimidating he could've come up with a more threatening name than snoke
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>>64745479
But what if Snoke is a good guy and Luke is the villain?
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>>64745368
That's not Star wars though, it has a theme of stagnation when it comes to tech.

In canon Clone armor is better than Trooper armor, and ancient Mando armor is still the best.

And for the most part in the extended universes older usually = better, ancient = best.

And then you have the outlying EU like the Old Republic where the extinct Infinite empire was the pinnacle of technology and they used the same holotech you see tens of thousands of years later.

Advancements my ass.
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>>64745491
well then why was kylo acting like such an edgelord? he obviously works for snoke, unless snoke is tricking him or something for whatever reason
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is it an obvious feint he looks like vader orrrrr.....?
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>>64745463
The old republic is mentioned in Clone wars though, which is still canon.
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>>64744757
>Can a guy this big even wield a lightsaber?
>dumb redditor missed the entire internal pottery
He's not "big", he was projecting a hologram to look huge, for intimidation value.
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>>64744757

Disney is going to go with Darth Vader's soul seperated in two. The evil part is Snoke, which explains the scars and the good part is Anakin who "died" long time before Vader, which explains Hayden as Anakin in RoTJ and rumors of him in ep VII.

screencap me you know i am right
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This guy gave me a strong Lord of the Rings vibe. Also that dungeon in the tavern and the chest with Luke's lightsaber.
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>>64746120
Star Wars was always about space wizards and knights until Lucas lost his mind after the divorce and did the prequels.
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>>64745987
Ni Hao Reddit!
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>>64746196
不出熱水
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Would actually want to see a lightsaber fight scene with some 60 foot giant versus rey or some other protagonist. Not in a way where the big guy is all "hurr I'm so slow and retarded watch as i awkwardly lumber around and take big swings that miss by a mile" but just him being big and intelligent.
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>>64744820
No you retard, it's a play on snake, because he's venomous.
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Is it actually made explicit that Sheev died in RotJ? Why not just bring back Sheevy?
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Why the fuck are they so different?
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>>64746498
Sheev is so powerful in the force he is constantly spinning, this gives his head a more narrow appearance.
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>>64744757
>Watching EP. VII
>Snoke on the water starts playing
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>>64746354
A lightsaber for someone his size wouldn't make much sense, but then again Star Wars is not famous for making too much sense.
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>>64746533
>Watching EP VII
>It ain't sheev starts playing.
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>>64745435
that's a portable hologram, dickhead. Snokes hologram had a specially designed movie theater-sized room seemingly just for contacting him. It is also an undeniable fact that debris were falling through the projection.

And in the end he tells Hux to bring Kylo to him to complete his training, I didn't really get the impression he meant to the crumbling projection room that imploded mere minutes later.
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>>64746739

Is this a portable device too?
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>>64744757
I for one am looking forward to the fight between Rey and CGI dude. Nothing works better on screen than seeing a real person and some CGI thing fight.
Also, both Luke and Snoke must be shitty teachers if an untrained girl can defeat your disciple in lightsaber combat.
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Maybe Snoke is just made of tiny tiny air that can fly at top speeds through space to talk to some guys on icegunplanet
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>>64746428

hiss
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HOW IS THE EMPEROR ALIVE
HE IS ONLY A LARGE 10 FOOT HEAD
HIS BODY IS NON EXISTENT
AND THATS CLEARLY NOT A HOLOGRAM YOU IDIOT HOLOGRAMS ARE SMALL
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>>64745164
>holograms
>lore
Who gives a monkeys.
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>>64747149
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>>64745512
>bringing up the fanfic
in my fanfic snoke is confirmed to be hologram
so yeah he is a hologram
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>>64744820
It's a play on Snake because he is Big Boss
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>>64745333
Kinda yeah.
Btw it´s Hux. Lux is Ahsokas bf.
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>>64745512
NOT CANON
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>>64745512
How obese are you?
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>>64744757
At first I thought he was called Snuke.
Cracked me up at the theater.
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>>64744981
Palpatine's hologram was gigantic in ESB.
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>>64744757
>can a guy this big even wield a lightsaber?
>this big
>guy
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>>64745435
>This is a hologram, you retard. Notice the size?
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>>64744841
Don't make me red pill you
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>>64744986
kek
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>main villain is a CGI fuckfest

fuck that gay shit, sheev was just a god tier actor in a actual mask, not a cgi monster who will look dated in 5 years

fuck jj that kike cunt
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>snoke

What did they mean by this?
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>>64748918

it's a new jersey thing
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Snoke&utm_source=search-action
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>>64748918
That you shouldn't forget to buy some Star Wars: The Force Awakens snacks when you come out of the theatre.
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>>64746498
So thats what an old David Spade would look like.
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>>64745368
>my headcanon will fix it!
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>>64746040
No, but it is almost certain that Snoke is giving Kylo hallucinations of Vader, and that was integral to his fall to the dark and will be in his up-coming training.
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>>64745463
Taris and Rakata prime is canon ;^)

Disney after all is close with EA, expect a big part of the old republic to be canon ;^)
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>>64744757

I'm calling it now.

Snook is actually slightly taller than yoda., but still crazy short. His lust for power possibly because he's so small drove him to the dark side. He makes himself huge in holograms to better intimidate the forces he commands.
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>>64748533
What a shit bad guy, he's just a fucking floating hologram head. Can he even hold a lightsabre? He's got no fucking arms! What a shit name, 'Palpatine'. Is that because he give you palpitations when you see how shit he is? He looks just a like a fucking old guy made of wax who got left in the oven too long.
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>>64750315

manlets
when
will
they
learn
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>>64745333
The speech was dreadful. It was just pure evil space nazi bogus. Boring.
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>>64750315
BBEG is a bald manlet
First Henchman is beta uprising school shooter.
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>>64744757
>Can a guy this big even wield a lightsaber?
opinion discarded
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>>64746141
and it's people like you who will defend the force being turned into the worst kind of deus ex machina
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>>64744757
Snooki.
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>>64744757
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>>64748826

Anakin, my faith is to memes! TO SHITPOSTING.
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>>64746868
>A communications disruption could mean only one thing ...
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>>64752867
kek
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>>64745320
>smaller than an average human
So literally Gollum then.
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>>64744757
snoke is not a big guy he is actually adolf hitler he got to the galaxy far far away by using occult magic to escape persecution and waited for sheev to die so that he could start the first order which explains why they do all the nazi stuff and act exactly like nazis
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>>64746040
Such a horseshit theory, lazy and dumb.
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>>64744757
Because Sheev is a better name.
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>>64744981
>>64745435
"Holograms aren't big"
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>>64748533

why does he wear that mask
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Yes... he's a hologram... he's not that big!
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CAN WE JUST FUCKING ACKNOWLEDGE FOR A MOMENT WHAT A FUCKING RETARDED NAME SNOKE IS?
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>>64747802
kek
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terrible villain.

this entire film relies on your knowing the Star Wars universe of the previous 6 films, that's one reason why TFA is a shitty shitty script.
It cannot stand up on it's own right. Seen in isolation nearly everything happens just 'because'.
They don't detail the world of Jakku because we are expected to know Tattoine. Rey lives in an ATAT. We don't actually see an ATAT in this film. We are meant to know already.
They don't even quickly explain the Force, assuming the audience already knows.
The rebel base is a Yavin 4 copy.
Xwings fly down a trench and destroy a single building because NOSTALGIA!
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>>64744981
Hologram technology advanced
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darth snooki and darth landis, best sith duo ever
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>>64744757
>Can a guy this big
>implying he isn't just a Yoda-tier midget and he's projecting a giant hologram because of manlet complex
Seeing how childish his pupil is I wouldn't even be surprised
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>>64750398
At least he's not made with 2001-tier CGI
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>>64744757
here you go.
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>>64753920

Although I agree with some of what you're saying, I don't think that everything needs to be explained. Empire stands alone just fine, but there's obviously added emotional weight if you've seen New Hope. How is this different? I would argue that even the prequels don't add anything to the view of tFA.
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>>64746428
Wrong dipshit, it's a play on schnook, because he's just a regular guy.
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Snoke is Vader's Father.... Watch out when the truth happens in the future...
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>>64745512
>theme of stagnation when
Star Wars doesn't have that, only the EU does. And only after KotoR retconned Tales of the Jedi. Which I get, Bioware wanted a game that looks like the best part of PT+OT to maximize sales, I don't blame for being lazy.

Thankfully Kotor is not canon and we can get rid of the retarded stagnation of tech bullshit.
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>>64754431
>retarded stagnation of tech bullshit

I don't know shit about EU, and only game I ever played was pod racers, but that stagnation thing actually sounds cool
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>>64754555
Sure, if it's reasonable theme within the right context, not when it spans 5000 years of history. Then it's everyone being retarded and incompetent as fuck.
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>>64754361
then the film is almost literally 'good people' are fighting 'bad nazi men' and the heroine is a tragic isolated waif who develops some kind of magic powers
tha bad evil boy worships xome kind of meleted head thing (no explanation) and teh film ends with the girl locating an old man we know exactly fuck all about
it's honestly an awful script which totally relies on audience familiarity rather than logic and character beats developed and earned in THIS script :)
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>>64744757
Why are the CGI characters in this movie so bad? That little orange pitch was straight out of a Pixar movie. This faggot is on the same level.

I'm so booty blasted.
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>>64754608
ep V is the best of all, yet regarded on its own would be pretty retarded
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>>64754608
Yeah some fucking backstory on why he is such a DV fanboy would be nice.
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>>64754669
Han touched him
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>>64745164

well memed anon
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>>64746040
>Snoke

You can't spell "Anakin Skywalker was a good friend" without S.N.O.K.E.
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>>64754669
You can find out in "Kylo: The Rise of Ren" soon! Preorder the hard cover for 24.99 now!
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>>64744757
>Can a guy this big even wield a lightsaber?

Are people falling for this bait or just pretending to be retarded?
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>>64754659
firstly, I don't agree with that. It's more like series of (good) set pieces rather than a good script.
Secondly, it's a direct sequel with the same characters as the previous film.
Nice try, but there is no comparison. TFA takes place after a film from 1983 and only has some cameos of characters from that time. It fully relies on previous knowledge from over 30 years ago rather than being the next film in an ongoing series, sorry.
If you are going to redo from scratch then actually DO that on screen
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>>64746040
>>64749394
Uh. Have you guys forgot Darth Plagueis? That was the first dude who came to my mind when i saw Snook. Because:
>Is a somewhat tall guy
>Has a somewhat similar Ay Lmao face
>Has the most knowledge on doing tricks with life/death and force
>Is pretty much the only guy who could have actually made safety-measures with force, since he knew that his pupil would (try to) kill him

>It's ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself. ;Sidious
>Oh you have no idea! ;D ;Plagueis
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>>64754608

I agree that more original backstory would have been a good thing. I also agree that over reliance on pre-existing material is a kiss of death for most films. The Revenge of the Sith (and to a less degree Attack of the Clones) script is a much stronger example of this. But I think it's fair to expect that when the SEVENTH installment in a film series comes out, the intended audience is at least passingly familiar with the storylines of the previous films; at least familiar enough to follow the plot of the new ones.
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>>64754804
I doubt anyone involved with creation of SW, including Lukas at any point, cared this much Anon.

>>64754790

It's be cool if he was some space giant alien
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>>64754861
I've heard this theory and I could get on board with this. I just wish they hadn't picked such an ugly fucker for Ben. I can't get over how deformed he looked in every shot. Huge nose, uneven jaw, big ears.
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>>64753494
>A hologram
>still looks down to kylo as if he's above him

Good job JJ
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>>64753024
I know people make fun of this, but it really COULD only mean one thing.

>being blockaded by Trade Federation
>"oh shit, our entire global communications system is down"
>hurr who coulda dunnit?
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>>64754866

TFA was the first SW movie my gf ever watched. She watched all the other the very next day and keeps talking about them constantly.

I guess it makes TFA good in certain way
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>>64754861
Too irrelevant for a twist for the average movie goer.

Snoke probably isn't getting a twist, the only way for a Snoke twist to have impact on the audience would be him being Vader/Anakin or Sheev clone.

And that's too retarded even for Disney. The twist is going to be concerning Rey/Kylo and Luke most likely, and Snoke will just be generic ancient evil.
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>>64754980
The dude's clearly on a throne, his hologram projector is probably below him, so it makes sense that he's looking down as if he's above Kylo
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>>64755041
why would you put that strain on your neck for no reason though
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>>64755089
Maybe his anatomy works different from yours.

On account of being a goddamn alien you joyless manchild.
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>>64754866
we'll have to agree to disagree because this was meant to be a soft reboot and rather than having a few nods to the past, perfectly acceptable, it didn't attempt to explain anything for a new audience and even worse it has hundreds of 'easter eggs' which is not a good sign, IMO :)
It's prefectly ok for a direct sequel or later eps in planned series to have ongoing themes.
This is more than 30 years since RotJ though.
I also wouldn't have minded lack of explanations had everything been entirely new to us and we were going to see a brand new story unfold.
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>>64755089
Make him look more imposing
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>>64755028

I have been saying since before tFA came out that either the girl protagonist or the grimdark antagonist would have an identity twist in the trilogy relating to parentage via Luke or Han and Leia, and that the reveal alone wouldn't be the twist. I still maintain that. Why would Han and Leia name a son Ben? Why not Bail or some shit like that? Only Luke knew Obi-Wan as Ben. I think Kylo Ren is Luke's son, not Han and Leia's.
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>>64755145

That seems perfectly reasonable.
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>>64745164
What Lore? Even if EU counted there are examples of full color holograms in that too. Remember Proxy from Force Unleashed? Technology in Star Wars serves the plot regardless of time period
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it's going to be the predicted cliche, isn't it

Jedi girl falls for the Sith boy she shouldn't

She gradually turns him good over three movies.
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>not realizing his stupid name is just a shitty cover for his actual reveal just like they did with Into Darkness and Cumberbatch obviously being Kahn despite being imaginatively named "John Harris"
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>>64745333
I liked it because it amused me. Star Wars was made for large hams, that's why Sheev is so great.
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>>64755163
If would fit in with the Skywalkers being susceptible to the dark side, but in ANH Luke refers to Obi Wan as Ben for most of the film, and in ESB he refers to him as Ben when Han finds him in the Hoth wilderness.
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>>64755163
I agree with you. The only reason we cared some about Vader's twist was because Vader became so damn popular and Luke was the protagonist.

Disney is going to have to mimic that, and this first movie is meant for fans to get invested into the characters. Rey and Kylo are the two most popular character and one of them, or both, is getting the major twist, not some tertiary character like Snoke.
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>>64755163

>Only Luke knew Obi-Wan as Ben.

Han and Chewwy probably got introduced to him as Ben, I can't see him dropping his pseudonym right in the middle of them trying to keep a low profile on the way to Alderaan.

Hell, Luke still refers to Obi-Wan as "Ben" in ESB at least up until Yoda, and I think he doesn't call him Obi-Wan until RotJ.

Obviously Han eventually would probably come to know Ben as Obi-Wan, but "Ben" is probably how he was first introduced and how he knew him when he was alive.
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>>64745512
Star Wars technology is whatever the writer thinks will work best for the story and be the most cool. There is not a grand internal logic to it. If the bad guys need a weapon to make them menacing but it wouldn't make sense that they can build it, they will find an ancient alien super weapon. If the writer thinks it makes sense that the villains built it it is made by them.
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>>64754980
There projections on his end could very well be at his feet.
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>>64746040
I agree with the visions part, but I doubt he is Vader. Kylo Ren essentially praying to Vaders mask doesn't make sense that way. Also why not call himself Vader? That would be much more effective to claim to be Vader reborn if he wanted to create fear and inspire Imperial loyalty
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>>64746428
So Mace Windu is coming back then? He has had it with these Motherfucking Snokes
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>>64753920
It's almost like it's part of a series!
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>>64754604
Cut them some slack. All it takes is one asshole turning to the dark side and you've got a galactic civil war. Every time they do advance its just a new super weapon to kill more shit
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>>64753920
It's a fucking sequel. You can say the same about Empire and Jedi.
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>>64755028
They'd just need someone in the movie to discover the legend or story again, and then freak out over Snoke being Sheevs master
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hey kids wanna buy some snoke
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>>64756036
you're a fucking imbecile
there were three years between those and they have the same characters in them, fuckwit
it's over 30 years since RotJ
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>>64744820
it's a play on snookie because you are suppose to hate them
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>>64755574

That's just plain stupid. Do you put the TV at feet level when you are watching a show?
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>>64744986
that is some fucking 3rd grade shit right there
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Uninspired Design: The Character
CGI: The Character
Tell Dont Show: The Character
Exposition: The Character
Weak and Ineffectual: The Character

Him and Maz are the biggest fuck ups of this new trilogy so far and years down the line will be looked back at as elements that impact negatively the potential nostalgia regarding TFA.
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>>64754669
It's his granddaddy
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>Luke: "I'm here to stop you, Snoke! Or should I call you......Darth Plagueis!"

*crickets chirping in audience because no one knows who the fuck that is

>Plagueis: "I created you! And now I will destroy you!"

*audience still not sure what you are talking about*

Then continue shitty exposition retelling of Sheev opera scene
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>>64753024
>>A communications disruption could mean only one thing ...
The planet is being blockaded by several massive warships with mech armies on board. It does make sense.
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>>64756184
If the tv was two way and I wanted to make the people on the other end think I was giant then yes
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jesus christ im done with /tv/ shitposting

if this post isn't dubs im quitting 4chan for good

so long space cowboys
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>>64753920
There are First Order AT-ATs on Starkiller in the distance

The Force is literally space magic, why would you explain it?
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>>64756289
Jesus the only logical explanation for Snoke is being Darth Plagueis but the normie trendyfag will definitely not know a goddamn thing. It just might be an ass pull character.
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>>64744981
>>64744757

Snoke is gonna be a little guy, like yoda. You wait and see. It'll be awesome.

He only projects himself big so he can look down on people, since he is forced to look up in person.
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>>64757012
Oh and when he fights Luke, it will be a reverse of yoda and sheeve fighting, for max pottery.
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>>64756336

It makes sense that immediately prior to invasion they would cut planetary communications but that doesn't mean communications being cut could only mean invasion. They could have just as easily been stepping up the blockade to include communications.

And lets not forget what people's actual criticisms about that line are about; It just doesn't make sense that dude knows communications have been cut worldwide instantaneously just because their holophone went out right then.

>There's some obscure, now non-canon explanation from some comic about how the specific pattern of the communication interference was able to specifically tell him what was going on instantly or some such shit

I don't care, it's a clumsy ass line.
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>>64744757
SUPREME LEADER ELLIOT RODGER
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Snoke wins.

Fatality.
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>>64744757
He has the same scars as Vader in episode VI
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