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http://www.thewrap.com/inevitable-star-wars-the-force-awakens-backlash-as-critics-fans-turn-on-reboot/
>56% of Americans now agree that "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" is "an overrated and overhyped forgery of a movie," up from 43% last week, according to the latest Gallup poll.
>most audiences cited independent online reviews and negative word-of-mouth through web boards and social media as contributing to their rapid change of heart, as the initial euphoria was slowly replaced with an acute feeling of having been manipulated by the Hollywood hype machine.
HAPPENING.
FUCKING HAPPENING.
>>64608583
>reposting this thread
we don't need a hundred threads for this. Just remember to shove this in Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins' face when he inevitably shows up to defend TFA
HOLY SHIT
JJ ABRAMS BTFO
IT'S OVER
HE'S FINISHED!
>>64608583
That's a big percentage.
>>64608583
A new Gallup poll was released which showed 68% of all Americans have had sex with your mother.
>>64608824
What an insufferable cunt that guy is.
Second only to Krager.
>>64608583
I liked it. Better than the prequels.
>>64608583
shit still made bank
disney gives 0 shits
hopefully Disney gets fucked either way
TFA hype has died down, Rogue One and Episode VIII won't live up to ridiculously high standards that they have set up
Hipster contrarians being hipster contrarians. Nothing to see here.
It was a good movie.
>>64608897
WOOO
>>64609004
It's actually sad that such a generic shit out of a machine movie made so much money and got such universal praise.
It was competently made, it was still a mediocre movie, people get way too caught up in hype, honest Star Trek 09 and Guardians of the Galaxy were better and more risk taking and even they were corporate cashins.
>>64608583
Polls like these are the reason they teach statistics in high school. Anyone who believe this shit is retarded.
>>64608933
How could you? Anyone that dared to criticize before viewing the movie would be deemed a racist for not purchasing 4 Finn Figures.
For Cunts sake, The fucking Storm Trooper with Riot gear sold out before Finn.
>>64609051
cool buzzwords you got there, kiddo
>>64608953
>krager
The Gallup poll was released which showed 120% of Americans agreed that OP is a colossal faggot
Literally the worst big budget sci fi film I've watched in the last 5 years.
>>64609079
Cool response there, kiddo
>>64609051
>Hipster contrarians being hipster contrarians
>americans
>>64609081
>>64609065
The things that are the safest and most familiar are what make the most money.
Why do you think Titanic and Avatar and the original Star Wars did so well?
>>64609065
Maybe star trek but definitely not GotG.
>>64609051
>It was a good movie.
It was a competent movie. Not good, not terrible. It was just a decently made, poorly written generic corporate cash grab with a lot of problems.
It will be forgotten about in a year just like every other generic Disney action flick they shit out every few months.
>>64609081
>>64609132
How can one tripfag be so unlikeable?
>>64609158
Can agree
>>64609158
only in your opinion.
>>64609143
Man I love forgotten in a year meme that everyones using. Movies just as memorable as A New Hope is desu.
>>64609178
You haven't met roberto paulson or mr eko yet have you
>>64609158
Thats not saying much considering there is only 2 good Star Wars movies, 2 mediocre ones and 3 complete shit ones.
That being said TFA is probably the most forgettable Star Wars movie next to II. At least with Phantom Menace I got podracing and duel of fates and with III we got Anakin murdering children and "From my point of view"
>>64609208
>mr eko
Doesn't annoy me as much as Krager does.
Krager is just a straight up idiot.
>>64608583
"That is a story for another time."
Translation: We are too lazy to explain how this cartoon bitch that we just met ended up with Luke's lightsaber and we hope you forget this gigantic plot hole.
all this tells me is that people are incapable of forming their own opinions about things and turn to the internet to do it for them
movie is still a solid 8/10 for me and nothing is gonna change that
>>64609281
>movie is still a solid 8/10 for me
same
>>64609281
This
Every thing is either the best ever or fucking the worst no one can fucking watch something and rate it themselves.
>>64609246
TFA had a stormtrooper betray his former comrades, Han getting killed by his son, and Luke being found after going into self exile. Those aren't even the climax. It's very memorable.
desu there's barely a movie there
you got a string of action sequences with very little explanation of the setting and most real plot issues are left for the sequel.
overall I feel like a watched a pilot for a tv show
>>64609281
>all this tells me is that people are incapable of forming their own opinions about things and turn to the internet to do it for them
>movie is still a solid 8/10 for me
kek
how ironic
I can't wait until Batman and Superman comes out so I can like TFA in peace.
>>64609415
>Things happened in TFA
>that makes it memorable
oh yes
the noble fight to destroy Death Star 3 will be fresh in my mind for a while
>>64609196
>Movies just as memorable as A New Hope is desu.
I know this is bait but I'll hook anyway.
A New Hope was an actual film that had its own arc, actual character development and redefined cinema as we know it, it's was the first true blockbuster adventure film and it's a well made one, its not the greatest movie, but it's highly memorable and was well made and well written despite some flat dialogue.
TFA is a generic film shit out by a computer that is fed data from focus test groups on top of a template designed by focus test groups as well designed to make people think it was a good movie while being a shallow piece of shit. One of the main reasons pacing is so fucking fast in modern action movies is so you can never stop and think about what is ACTUALLY happening on screen. It was a calculated commercial product with no effort, heart or soul or even an ounce of originality put into it. They ripped off ANH while stealing some stuff from the EU and tweaking it.
It annoys me that mediocre movies like TFA or Avengers and other Disney shit seem to get universal praise while being thin corporate cash grabs while TFA gets awards over movies that actually had effort put into them.
Its just like how generic pixar/disney shit wins best animation at every animation or film award while amazing films that desperately need recognition are often are not even nominated.
>>64609421
Have you seen the movie? Everything you need to know is pretty much laid out.
>>64609507
that's a story for another time
threadly reminder: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm
im sure bobby iger is crying himself to sleep tonight
>>64609483
>being this upset over star wars
>>64608583
>WE
>>64609427
>formed own opinion, independent from internet groupthink
>ironic
is english not your first language?
>>64609531
>lightsaber falls down shaft in cloud city
>someone finds it
>maz has a bar where aliens form all over the place meet so she has connections
>she gets the saber
There you go
>>64609565
Not over Star Wars, the direction of fucking big budget cinema. Star Wars making this much money is further incentive to design movies through focus testing.
>>64609427
how?
>a gallup poll for a film
>people replying to this sophomoric bait
might as well just repost what some nobody celebrity posted on twitter, its all youre good for
>>64609659
Do you have evidence of your focus testing conspiracy?
Seems like big budget blockbusters have always been out to make the most money.
>>64609654
>source
nice try faggot, just watch the next movie
>>64609654
>someone finds it
after it has been crushed/vaporized in the center of a gas giant?
They still got your money.
They still made a billion dollars.
It was inevitable, everyone would flock to see this shit fest, because they'd been waiting like 20 years. Doesn't matter if it was shit or not, they still had to see it, and so did we.
The only thing we can do to combat them is not see the sequels, and convince everyone not to see the sequels.
Don't buy the merchandise, don't see any more films.
It'll be hard for them to recoop their 3,000 million spent on this franchise if we all band together now.
>>64609427
He's right though.
I wonder how many people loved the movie because of the hype and now hate it because of the backlash. That article even says that there's a lot of opinion changes due to social media and forums. We are a nation of sheep. Pump out some marketing and we all bleat our way to the theater in herds, then when someone else says "no it sucked" we bleat our way into their pastures.
>>64609782
Maybe you need to go with someone to a movie to explain it for you. Want to buy me a ticket? ;)
>>64609810
Lukes hand and lightsaber fall into a different part of cloud city not through the hole the luke falls through.
>>64609862
sorry your fanfiction isn't canon
>>64609938
lel like I give a fuck about canon
>>64609051
>le contrarian meme
a hugbox like reddit might be more suitable, since you're so fragile you have to convince yourself there are "contrarians"
>>64609956
sorry you're a butthurt fanboy
>>64609281
>some people claim to dislike tfa
>there are criticisms of TFA online
>therefore people claim to dislike TFA because the internet told them so
nice non-sequitur, retard. it's very clear to me why someone like you enjoyed it. Tip: it has something to do with your IQ
>>64608583
You know, now that I think about it, was TFA really that bad?
>>64609994
ehh fuck it m8 its just star wars. Plenty of better shit to worry about.
>>64609178
reminds me of zed on /k/ before he got permabanned
>had no intention of watching the new shillwars or impose my views on others why they shouldnt watch it
>roommate is watching a bootlegged copy
>pass by during the scene where the black is talking to some orange yoda
>"i see blahblahblah in your eyes"
>"YOU DONT KNOW NUFFIN BOUT ME"
any more sjw memes like this in it?
>>64609836
I've never changed my opinion. I don't think TFA is a bad movie, I think it was a generic forgettable one made on top a template designed by the Marvel movies.
It was a slightly enjoyable turn your brain off 2 hour long trailer like the rest of capeshit.
>>64609281
Totally. They'll be back to loving it in time for VIII
>>64609158
It was complete dogshit, shill.
>>64610179
No, Force Awakens really killed all hype for me.
Rogue One looks interesting, but I'll watch the rest pirated.
Force Awakens, Jurassic World just continues my capeshit burnout.
>>64609564
>Domestic
Worldwide is top dog, anon.
>>64608583
>/tv/ taking credit for people having common sense
Whatever helps you fill that void, pham.
>>64610046
nice strawman, faggot
>>64608583
>>56% of Americans now agree that "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" is "an overrated and overhyped forgery of a movie," up from 43% last week, according to the latest Gallup poll.
This is literally not in the article you posted and people here are eating it up what the actual fuck this board is fucking retarded
>>64609132
Oh hey I'm right above his post and the first reaction image, I feel honored.
>>64610492
this thread is considered "quality posting"
Lucas team > Abrams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs
do people actually like TFA? What was I suppose to enjoy in TFA exactly?
It was just sequence after sequence
the whole thing happened in 1 day pretty much
>>64608863
force you
>>64610570
TFA's only draw is that it was more "well-made", whatever that means, than the prequels. That's what everyone is cheering it on about. That's the only thing worthy of enjoyment in the film.
>>64609081
Why are tripfags so pathetic
>>64608583
If only this happened for Diablo 3.
>>64610537
I will guarantee people will use that statistic pn this very board and when asked for a source will complain about spoonfeeding.
Fuck these people, its a fucking star wars, EU faggots and prequel apologists shittong up the boards woth threads after threads should be spayed and neutered
>>64610612
Some are okay.I trip from time to time. See?
Most are just dudes trying to stand outwhich is stupid on an anonymous image board but whateveror guys just wanting to take responsibility for their shit.
Every now and then you get a guy who is just insufferable.
>>64610566
What have we done? I'm so sorry, George Lucas.
>>64608583
>mfw I didn't spend a dime on this shit.
Heist movie about the making of TFA confirmed when?
>>64608583
we beat the jews boys
>all these contrarians
if the Republic is in power, why is the Resistance the "Resistance"? What are they resisting? Isn't the First Order the "Resistance," as they're resisting the hegemony of the Republic? It's like someone on-set said "the Rebels need a new name," without realizing that the political situation in the Galaxy had totally changed since the events of the previous films.
>>64610871
The republic doesn't cpnsidered the remnants of the empire a threat and have to maintain order across the galaxy and don't have time to be picking off remainding storm troopers.
>>64610779
Prequels were a result of Lucas having absolute complete control. He fronted his own money for the prequels. Fox didn't give him shit, but stood to benefit with Lucas assumed all the risk. I would've been fine with him directing if someone was there to call him out if he did retarded shit.
>>64610605
Who is determining how well made it is?
I generally assume its because of age bias but when Phantom Menace came out and i was a kid at the cinema i was impressed by the special effects. Not so this time around.
>>64609483
>Its just like how generic pixar/disney shit wins best animation at every animation or film award while amazing films that desperately need recognition are often are not even nominated.
Yep.
Song of the Sea and Kaguya were fucking robbed last year.
>>64608583
>>64608583
This isn't really a surprise for one simple obvious from the start reason.
Most people agreed it was ok, but almost nobody was really going around "OMG it was amazing!"
Which is was a bad sign.
>>64610605
"Better than the prequels!" is now the new "Better love story than Twilight!"
>>64610864
>>64608583
when phantom menace came out, i remember people saying it was a great movie and that i had to see it.
a year from now it will be around 50% on rotten tomatoes
>>64608583
It was ok, I don't feel the need to see it again immediately and it certainly did not rekindle my love for Star Wars.
Before the Prequels and Star Wars was merched and driven into the ground, I was the guy who knew the names and backstory of shit like all those cantina aliens.
>literally The Dark Knight all over again
>>64611080
A year from now star wars forcen awakens will be around 50% on rotten tomatoes
>>64608583
Disney made billions of shekels.
They dont give a fuck if the americucks changed their mind.
>>64610566
They don't just rhyme, but they also mirror. You notice that in a lot of these parallels you point out characters are moving in, facing, or positioned opposite from each other. In most of the R2-D2 scenes he's facing one direction in the prequel version and facing the opposite in the other. Luke's speeder is moving towards the left while Anakin's is moving towards the right. The Chancellor Swings his chair to the left while the Emperor Swings his chair to the right. Anakin is always on the right when kissing Padme and Han is always on the left when kissing Leia. As described in Mike Kilmo's Star Wars Ring Theory Article the prequels don't just parallel the Originals, but mirror them to create a circle. Their story runs in reverse from the Originals with Episode II pretty much Episode V in reverse. Whether you liked the Prequels, or not you can't question the amount of the thought and detail that went into their creation in respect to the Original Trilogy.
>>64611147
But Plinkett told me Lucas reused his ideas because he's lazy.
when the fuck will people stop falling for media hype?
Daily reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSaaa_OBkzw
>>64608583
Where is this poll data coming from because it isn't at the link you provided.
Stop referring to it as capeshit. Just lazy and dumb.
>>64610871
The Republic only control part of the galaxy. The Resistance fight The First Order in the rest of it.
>>64611231
>>64611240
He made it up. Unsurprisingly /tv/ ate it up
>>64611268
but that's stupid
>"an overrated and overhyped forgery of a movie,"
You could even call it a glib facsimile
>>64610566
>Anakin turning his head towards Windu as he's shocking Palpatine.
>Vader Turning his head towards Palpatine as he's shocking Luke
>>64609815
I still can't believe you fucks use this picture in a negative way
Boyega was genuinely grateful and honored to be apart of Star Wars, and I personally couldn't be any happier for him since he seems to be enamored with the success of his role. He loved it and had fun doing it, and his performanced showed.
JJ Abrahms did great as well on the account he didn't completely fuck everything up. He played it safe by capturing the same charm and excitement the original Star Wars had, and it did that with a changing social climate.
And Daisy played her role fabulously and flawlessly. Her character saw great development and felt as if she belonged there; not once did I think "oh great another feminist forced role". it didn't feel forced at all. It fit great, and that's how these types of roles should work. They need to be natural or else it feels like they did only because they wanted to boost women's image in contemporary society.
All in all, it was a solid movie and deserved all of the praise it got. Is it a masterpiece? Far from it. Granted, Stars Wars wasn't a masterpiece to begin with.
It's a work of Pop Art and shouldn't be treated as seriously as you guys are taking it
>>64608583
>OMG everybody says it's Best Wars, so now I love it, too!!1
>OMG everybody says it's Worst Wars, so now I hate it, too!!1
Fucking lemmings
>>64611574
>missing le point
>>64611598
> le eating up whatever /tv/ tells you
It took the general public 1 month and Disneys marketing blitz to pull a wool over everybodies eyes. The whole time I was watching StarTrek into Darkness, I knew JJ was a hack. He's learning on the fly. And every single YouTube reviewer that gave TFA a thumbs up was paid by Disney and I'm never watching them again.
>>64611139
There are still 2 movies ahead, not including marvel-lite shit like Rogue One.
>>64611669
Holy shit shut the fuck up and kill yourself
>>64609960
You're a real stupid cunt.
>>64611226
It's almost impossible to escape from the media hype. It's literally everywhere. This is why anti-monopoly laws used to exist, until Reagan/Thatcher decided that corporations should rule themselves rather than obeying the law
>>64609421
>this
The only reason people gave it a chance was because it had the story of the 4 previous movies.
The fuck
I find it hard to believe more than half of Murcia has seen TFA
>>64609836
>fool us once, shame on you
>fool us twice, shame on us
People wised up to musicians releasing albums with 3-4 good songs and the rest full of filler. Same with pre-buying a game that is later found to be incomplete, short or buggy. No way episode 8 makes as much money.
>>64611549
$15 has been successfully deposited into your ShillPal, goyim.
>>64611574
Typical millenians
>>64611574
I never understood why people always need to make things black and white. It's why I prefer IMDB to RT.
My personal opinion on the movie was always mixed.
Pros:
-Well polished
-Exciting, funny
-Nothing painfully awkward to sit through, unlike some fights in the OT and dialogue in the PT
Redeemable cons:
-Rey is a Mary Sue, but if the previous training / mindwipe theory is true then it's fine
-Kylo was disappointing, but if we see that he is indeed a fiery, unpolished, unfocused angry kid, who becomes much more in control, then there is actually good character progression and he was fine
-Similarly with Finn/Rey/Poe, hopefully they show progression and are not just stagnant
Irredeemable cons:
-Absolutely everything to do with starkiller base. How the fuck did the "ashes" of the empire come together to make this giant machine, why was the republic sitting on its hands, and now instead of conquering they instead destroy a system and all its wealth, billions die and the movie barely cares in terms of tone/emotion, somehow this beam travels slowly but crosses many lightyears in minutes, somehow people in another system see that system get destroyed, and then this end-all machine gets blown up with the exact same plot as ep4. Complete garbage
-A bunch of other things people have mentioned, much less significant than the previous point (e.g. the nature of Han and Leia's relationship, Captain Phasma being shit and basically destroying the deathball9000 herself, etc)
IMO the movie is basically a mediocre cash grab if the redeemable cons are not addressed. If, however, ep 8/9 go in the right direction and provide answers to those issues, then looking back the movie is pretty ok, and an acceptable start to the sequel trilogy. It won't be better than just passing though because of all the shit I mentioned with the iDathStar 3S.
>>64611549
>I still can't believe you fucks use this picture in a negative way
It's not a particularly flattering picture of any of them so I don't know why you're surprised.
>he didn't completely fuck everything up.
We should hold the bar a little higher don't you think?
>He played it safe by capturing the same charm and excitement the original Star Wars had
If by that you mean he made a completely generic (safe) Sci-Fi film with awful contrived humor and uninteresting characters.
>Daisy played her role fabulously and flawlessly.
What was good about it? I'm not even one of those people yelling 'Mary Sue!' or 'feminist propaganda!' but her character is extremely uninteresting as is the entirety of the cast.
>it was a solid movie and deserved all of the praise it got
>shouldn't be treated as seriously as you guys are taking it
A completely safe unoriginal and boring cash grab deserves all the praise it got? I'm not a super big fan of the original Star Wars trilogy but I do enjoy them and respect them for what they did. They are fun creative films that innovated and had a great sense of adventure. The Force Awakens literally has none of that.
>mfw my fav 20+ year old unofficial cannons are better
>>64611212
>But Plinkett told me Lucas reused his ideas because he's lazy.
Because he is lazy and wanted to cash in on nostalgia in order to trick people into thinking, even for a second, that the prequels were good.
>>64609137
Guardians of the Galaxy and Final Fantasy XII were better Star Wars media than Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Prove me wrongYou can't
>>64608974
>Better than the prequels.
This. TFA is far greater than the prequels. It even supersedes the vision of Lucas's original trilogy with dazzling bravado. The vision is staggering, the performance are first rate, and brings back the glorydays of 70's new Hollywood for a brand new generation. And if anyone thinks I'm a shill I assure everyone in this thread that no one at 20th Century Fox paid me to post this.
>>64613322
Keep that feeling. It's good isn't it? Knowing that for all the horrible things in the old EU, it is still better than the new one, and probably will continue to be for a long time.
The article is already out if date. It mentions a 94 rotten tomatoes rating, but it's actually down to 93 now
>>64614129
>claiming a fan fiction series where the Yuuzang Vong and Abeloth exist is better than literally anything
Jesus fucking Christ.
the more I think about this movie the worse my opinion becomes
its like everything in the movie is held together with coincidence and contrivance
>>64608583
god save the amerika SW fans!
fuck the disney!
>>64614129
*tips fedora*
>>64614183
>tfw Star Trek has a higher rt rating.
Why?
>>64614491
>it all happened in ONE DAY
>>64614249
>>64614631
That whole arc is Disney shitting on how fucking stupid Grevious was in the PT. My fucking sides made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs.
>>64609483
Saying these characters in TFA don't have depth doesn't make it true.. The best parts of it were Rey and Kylo Ren. Even Finn had a great and interesting background for motives.
The only ones who actually think Rey is a bad character are the /tv/ autists drooling Mary Sue over their keyboards because they're memeing, being contrarian, and most importantly missing the clear as day implications that Luke and Rey have a jedi training relationship that for some reason has been shelved in her memory.
Can we all just admit that the prequels may have had an original story but were: Poorly/lazily directed, Terrible acting and full of cgi which looked dated less than 5 years later
>>64608583
I have never seen so much concentrated autism in a single post
>>64608583
who /waitingforbluraytopirate/ here?
>>64615010
Nigger the CGI looked dated when all 3 movies were released. Even now movies filmed almost entirely with green screen look horrible. Tech hasn't yet leaped the uncanny valley and when you stick a real person in a wholly CGI environment it looks fucking terrible.
>>64615152
>wholly CGI environment
But they weren't
>>64609178
You obviously have never dealt with Sneak
>>64614956
>Rey have a jedi training relationship that for some reason has been shelved in her memory.
There's no evidence of that.
>>64615149
You are asking for a flagrant, solicited violation of US patent law. This will
not be a case of harmlessly or unknowingly posting material to the net. There
is no legal question here except that of exactly which crimes the prosecutor
will choose to charge you with. So far, the only one that I am aware of is
solicitation of an illegal act. Anyone who assists you will be an accomplice
at best.
>>64615278
>US patent law
That's a copyright issue, not patent.
>>64614956
>The only ones who actually think Rey is NOT a bad character are the /tv/ autists drooling REY IS NOT A Mary Sue over their keyboards because they're memeing, being contrarian, and most importantly missing the clear as day implications that Luke and Rey have a jedi training relationship that for some reason I PULLED OUT OF MY ASS
fixed that for you
>>64615299
Mayber the poster is talking about the bluray technology not Star Wars.
>>64615309
No luke obviously trained her 5 year old ass to mind control people before he dumped her on tatooine 2, you sexist.
>>64613235
>but if we see that he is indeed a fiery, unpolished, unfocused angry kid
So you didn't actually watch the movie. He was. And Snoke's last line was saying that Kylo needs to finish his training. I don't know how much more obvious they need to make it that his character development is incomplete.
Do you really think that everything that happened and was built up in Ep 7 is going to result in Kylo Fuccboi remaining a fuccboi? Even Jj and Disney are smart enough to know that letting his character stagnate would kill ep 8.
They did not go through the effort of giving Kylo Ren the emotional struggle and insecurity that he had without planning for some serious payoff. If they wanted his character to be one note they would have written another EU tier dogshit Vader clone.
>>64615010
We've all known that for years. Seeing a movie that was almost a remake of the Original Trillogy has just made people nostalgic for a time whan the creators actually TRIED and seemed to have the intention of reating new stories and environments. It wasn't good cinema, but it was at least NEW, for the most part. I enjoyed TFA, but there's no reason to watch it for a second time rather than watching a New Hope. There's so little fresh in it, so little of its own identity to speak of. In that sense, it is quite fully a JJ Abrams film.
>>64609960
>a hugbox like reddit might be more suitable
>because you don't agree with the /tv/ hivemind and hurt my feelings
>>64615356
He didn't teach her directly. She figured that shit out when she was able turn Kylos mind rape against him and see into his mind.
>>64615398
>Do you really think that everything that happened and was built up in Ep 7 is going to result in Kylo Fuccboi remaining a fuccboi?
Yes because they're still going to be hacks who make a retarded plot where mary sue triumphs over him in every confrontation by pulling powers out of her ass.
>>64615417
ZOZ "new" is a big call, considering most of the characters were returning from the original series. Not to mention what was original basically destroyed the mythos of the sw universe #midifuckians
I mean, it was aight.
>>64615540
>Hurr durr what is the second act of any story that follows the Hero's Journey ending in the hero getting their shit slapped.
You faggots act like Star Wars isn't going to be, at its core, The Hero's Journey, a story which has existed in the same basic format for thousands of years.
If TFA didnt have star wars elements it'd have gotten 5/10
It was just a nostalgia movie.
A stand alone movie about some girl getting a robot to some people and then finding some guy... None of that is really interesting unless you're already emotionally invested in the universe.
>>64615662
This!
Fuck political fuckery and shit dialogue more sword swinging and emotion
>>64615627
speak English nigger
>>64615540
Now now..
The heroes journey will require a couple of 'all hope is lost' scenes, I think it's two from memory, right before the climax at the end where she triumphs over everything
>>64609004
They'll give a shit when the next film gets 1/4 of the box office takings now the hype fog has cleared.
>>64608583
>people that take the time to honestly answer Gallup calls
>people that enjoy anything in life
Pick one.
>>64615725
K mayne, like da moovee dindu nuffin rly gud oh shity it was like flat purple cola like it was grape n all but that shit felt dry
>>64609065
>It's actually sad
It's genuinely fucking depressing to me.
>>64615830
>being depressed
>not looking at it for lessons thatll eventually allow you to profit from the dumbies
>>64615662
The first act is supposed to be the hero struggling to stay afloat in this crazy new world they find themselves in and that didn't happen either, faggot.
I hope Lucas will at least get some consideration but I think Disney already picked a director
>>64615909
Finn was thrown into a completely different world
So was Ray. She didnt know shit about flying around and battling shit.
>>64610492
>literally not in the article
not literally, but the meaning is.
count me as one who was anticipating the movie, it was competent and professional, but in the end disappointing as a whole.
>>64609731
It's not a conspiracy you fucking dingo, it's how it works. Anyone who knows anything about how movies are made knows this.
Same thing happened with Avatar. Was out for a bit, everyone flocked to see it, then decided that maybe it wasn't that great. And people are remembering they aren't actually Star Wars fans but nerdy shit became cool, like Marvel, so they got on the hype train.
>>64615951
> She didnt know shit about flying around and battling shit
Could have fooled me.
She found herself in a crazy new world, there just wasn't struggle. She wasn't reliant on a mentor and after the one real setback of being captured she just starts winning.
>>64616062
You can tell the alphas of society by these things.
The betas are the ones who immediately rush out to experience what they're told they will experience. They lack autonomy and critical thought and are afraid of differing from the consensus.
The alphas might love star wars, but they won't decide until they see it. They aren't afraid to form an opinion based on their own views.
>>64610566
>OT is all about the destruction of evil
>PT is about its rise
>OT is good
>PT is terrible
I'm so sorry Lucas
>>64611549
>>64614846
Its still the New EU everyones getting. It took less time for the new EU to become shit then the old one did.
>>64609815
>>64611549
Yeah IDK why people get pissed that the actors actually like Abrams. /tv/ prefers a prick director like James Cameron that people hate working with but ends up usually getting good performances. Abrams can do well without being a prick.
>>64608583
I hate you all.
>>64617037
tell that to kanjiclub
>>64611549
>JJ Abrahms did great as well on the account he didn't completely fuck everything up
>It wasnt a total catastrophe therefore it's really great
>>64608974
>>64613859
sure if you like watching the same thing you have already seen again, only this time it´s worse and comes with a unlikable mary sue character, old characters and an and a black male character that doesn´t get to do anything
>>64615957
>being this upset over star wars
>>64610128
well the female lead is an feminist mary sue that get´s to be better then everybody on the first try.
there is also a scene between the black guy and the girl were he asks her if "she has a boyfriend, a cute boyfriend"
or something like that.
whole dialogue doesn´t feel like star wars
>>64617015
Jj aint gonna suck your cock or let you suck his. Name one actor has gotten a well acted performance from? You cant...
>critics say it's good when movie comes out
>WOW IT REALLY IS PERFECT
>critics say it's shit later
>WOW IT REALLY IS SHIT
Americans.
It sucked but I can't wait to see for the fourth time.
People tend to forget, that we are getting 2 more movies in this trilogy, TFA isn't supposed to be judged by trilogy standards. It has always been the second movie that decides the fate od the trilogy. Star Wars was good on it's own yeah, but not great and Phantom wasn't THAT shitty when it came out, it was Attack that ruined it beyond redemption.
>>64616147
>the alphas and betas of society are both subcategories of the Star Wars fanbase
yeah...
>>64617015
Abrams casts the most talented actors he can so he doesn't have to work hard to get acceptable performances from them. That's what he gets: acceptable performances.
Cameron casts EXACTLY the actor that is correct for the role, then yells at them until they give EXACTLY the performance he wants.
>>64609137
so naive
>>64610128
DON'T HOLD MY HAND
>>64610747
they all are, you pathetic tripfag cunt
i hope you fucking die
>>64608583
>WE DID IT
>WEDIDIT
>WEDDIT
>>64608583
>implying 56% of americans understand the word 'forgery'
The best scene in Star Wars
like Disney cares
Disney is getting BLOWN THE FUCK OUT STRAIGHT TO THE BANK.
>>64617894
TFA isn't really even redeemable at this point though. Rey has already been established as an ultimate Mary Sue, and Ren as a weak-minded limp-wristed faggot, AND they didn't even make use of the Jar Jar conspiracy, so all possibilities for overarching storylines have been cut down now. At this point whatever interesting stories they do produce from the following movies will have fuck all to do with the EU. The only way to bring any real conflict to the sequel trilogy will be if Rey becomes a Sith Lord.
Am I supposed to unenjoy this movie because of a gallup poll?
Shame, I just saw it for the third time this Tuesday.
>>64618206
Of course not! You're free to have bad taste for as long as you want, anon!
>>64608583
It insists upon itself!really though that's exactly what it was
In two months the contrarians will love it and we will come full circle.
>>64618129
>I can take whatever I want
>Then take me
What did she mean by this?
>>64608583
Now that normies dislike it. Contrarian /tv/ must love it then.
>>64618233
just like pottery
>>64618436
No yet, need 20% more.
>>64615954
I'm not crazy about it but the rampant sw shit posting needs to be addressed now because fuck its been a month of this garbage and we got a SW movie coming out once a year forever
>>64618481
It won't be as bad during rouge one or ep8, but it will be 10 times worse during and leading up to ep9
>>64618570
Exactly, either nuke and reopen this board or make an SW board or NERD board or some faggot shit. Anywhere else because the MODS have been sucking some major fucking dick
>>64611549
I remember now why i leave this board
>>64609270
it is lazy, though they were kinda pressed for time right then
Maz needed a bigger role, or at least a better introduction. its also odd that she kept such a valuable thing (the saber) downstairs in an unlocked box.
>>64618592
Someone saying STAR WARS shouldn't be treated as seriously as every mongoloid here is taking it should be listened to
>>64611549
they use it in a "negative way" because theres a comic drawn by A. Wyatt Mann or some such, that matches it in great detail
/pol/ is everywhere. lurking. heiling.
>>64618620
Its fine, since literally no one but Han and the auidence understands the significance behind a light saber. Finn didn't realize it was a weapon until Maz told him.
What was she going to explain to Rey anyway? What would Rey know.about the events at Cloud City and Vadar and the force. Telling her how she got it would be the waste of timethough she should be telling Leia of all people.
>>64618623
>makes an argument
>gets BTFO
>hurr durr dont take it so serious
i want that meme to die
>>64618384
>I said whatever I WANT.
Good, fuck this 3 hours long advertisement for merchandise.
>>64618697
I didn't make that argument faggot and it was clear it was bait from the post but fuck if people treating sw as seriously as they do here isn't the fucking gayest shit ever
>>64614956
>Ray
>character with depth
pfffffft
>>64608583
I really love prequels now more.
It is the true ... AWAKENING.
The force of true fans have to unite against Disney and JJ Abrams.
>>64618700
>3 hours long
>Its just over 2
Confirmed for bullshit
>>64619106
Urgh all this is, is the opportunity whiny "prequel generation" fags to finally claim that there was some good in them. When in actuality there really isnt.
>>64620079
Lucas Shit > JJ Shit
>>64608583
That's fantastic.
Now on to the next popular movie that people like.
>>64620722
Star Wars 1977 was the last good Lucas shit. Since then he made one shitty WWII remake and one of the most unwatchable trilogies of all time.
>>64619106
you are an idiot.
>>64620890
say what you want about the Prequels, at least they follow Lucas' vision.
TFA is just a movie made by studio executives working off a check-list of shit they want in the movie.
Prequels are filled with stuff you may like or dislike. TFA is just empty.
>>64610796
My nigga right here. My mom paid for me and my brother to see it. We're 26 and 30.
>>64608583
>manipulated by the Hollywood hype machine
I've been telling you fucking kids that hype is poison and y'all keep sucking that AIDS dick, fuck you if you wake up with a rash if you didn't listen to me.
>>64608583
>manipulated by the Hollywood hype machine.
>It's Disney's fault that I'm a retarded cuck who eats up anything which is advertised enough
>>64620974
The prequels felt lifeless and sterile. Bluescreen the trilogy. Who cares if it was Lucas' vision if he himself became studio executive?
With Disney Star Wars there's the whole idea for endless stream of movies that will make a ton of money. But the movie itself was made by guys who wanted to make the most un-prequel movie possible. So with lots of practical effects, characters that feel like real people, return to mysticism of the force and so on. That was the idea. Some things worked some didn't but they had fun working on it.
>>64612066
No way Avatar 2 makes as much money.
>>64621165
>With Disney Star Wars there's the whole idea for endless stream of movies that will make a ton of money. But the movie itself was made by guys who wanted to make the most un-prequel movie possible
Actually it was made by guys who wanted to make the most Money possible.
That's why tfa is so sterile and boring.
- Almost a Remake of ANH? check
- Lots of nostalgia and cameos? check
- Lel so funny capeshit quips? check
- Lots of progressive shit to appeal to wide spectrum? check
It's just a by the numbers disney movie.
If you move the setting it might as well be pirates of the carribbean 5.
Yeah the prequels were shit.
But I'll take one mans steaming turd of integrity over one studios steaming cashgrab turd.
>>64618129
any one else get a sexual vibe from that scene ?coz i did
Glad I don't devote my life to another person's property, like the editors at Wookieepedia.
>>64621524
>It's just a by the numbers disney movie.If you move the setting it might as well be pirates of the carribbean 5.
>>64609836
True. I'll even admit I went in being a contrarian ready to hate it.
However I really loved it when I saw it. A few hours later, I realised that the whole Blow up the death star 3 plot was so lame and made no sense that they were able to do it so quickly. Felt like a cheap tack on.
7/10 movie let down by the crappy third act.
>>64621524
>I'll take one mans steaming turd of integrity over one studios steaming cashgrab turd.
That's a poignant way of phrasing it.
>>64609960
>this is what /tv/ really believes
>>64608583
>we did it
>inevitable backlash
Pick one
The sad thing is that almost everyone bought into the hype and advertising, most of the reviews were amazing. Most people said the film was great.
The money has been made, so what people say now really doesn't matter.
Same as the prequels, people loved that shit at first too. Only later did they hate it but by then it really didn't matter.
>>64621992
Disney seems to be the master at the 'first impression/hype' for their movies. They can put enough trimming in the form of comedy (and music, in the case of some of their animated films) to cover up bad plot devices/plot holes/mediocrity in general.
Look at Frozen. It made bank when it first came out and people were obsessed with it. Only when time passed did people finally recognize it as overrated and mediocre - but it was too late. It had already won the Oscar for Best Animated Feature (for what little this 'let's celebrate Disney shlock' category is worth) and Best Song and became the highest grossing animated film of all time.
Same can be said for most Marvel movies. Mediocre films and stories masked by a barrage of comedy and action.
>>64621524
>But I'll take one mans steaming turd of integrity over one studios steaming cashgrab turd.
I agree 100%. A flawed director's voice will always be better than a bland, forgettable studio voice.
I wish I grew up at a time when studio films were actually good, like "Giant" and "Ben-Hur".
>>64608583
dont we have to switch sides now?
>>64608583
was tr8t a /tv/ meme?
