400 Blows (1959) - François Truffout
Let's cut this Star Wars bullshit and start talking about some good films already.
8 1/2 (1963) - Federico Fellini
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) - Stanley Kubrick
El Bola is better than this movie
Andrei Rublev (1966) - Andrei Tarkovsky
>>64427418
I downloaded the movie but haven't seen it yet. How is it? I love Malicks work.
>>64427418
Battleship Potemkin (1925) - Sergei Einsenstein
Persona (1966) - Ingmar Bergman
>>64427471
It's not his best but I enjoyed it.
>>64427350
I liked his solution of freezing the screen and zoomed in a confused Leaud looking directly to the audience as if he were asking "where do I go now?" or "do I really deserve this?" to finish the movie. It's extremely efficient from an emotional and intellectual perspective.
Kes (1969) - Ken Loach
>>64427563
I totally agree! It's my favorite movie of all time. People think that Godard started the french new wave, but actually this genius did.
Jules et Jim (1962) - François Truffout
>>64427616
Godard really isn't that good, tbqhfam. All style, no substance.
Citizen Kane (1941) - Orson Welles
![Solaris [Tarkovsky].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S5lVbWM.jpg "Solaris [Tarkovsky].jpg")
Is it honestly worth staying awake for?
Is this some kind of a dadcore movies threads?
>>64427658
I think Pierrot le fou is one of the greatest movies tho. Pop Art in a movie.
The Big Parade (1925) - King Vidor
Joy (2015) - David O. Russell
All about Eve (1950)
most manipulative bitch I've ever seen in a movie
>>64427693
it's a great movie. Tarkovsky filmed Solaris as a response to Kubrick. He found Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey too materialistic. But who gives a fuck? They both are great!
>>64427736
Oh that's a great one and not as well known as it should be.
>>64427736
Great Movie!
Dersu Uzala (1975) - Akira Kurasawa
From Kurasawa's later years. One of the movies he did with the soviets. Amazing movie.
>>64427772
I hated this movie. How and why the fuck am I supposed to relate to a bunch of entitled, bitchy millionaire actresses?
>>64427780
Is there any proof to this claim? That Solaris was a response to 2001? It just seems like Cold War-esque sensationalism to me.
>>64427905
How were the main actress and her friend bitchy? They were a lot more human than the normies in this movie.
>>64427782
>>64427835
Go to 28:00 mark, fucking brilliant.
http://youtu.be/yLtXuGded04
>>64427905
>le I need to relate meme
Stick to flicks, redditor.
>>64428003
Oh! It really is brilliant!
>>64427350
Late Spring is one of these magical movies. It's very well edited and well shot in a very subtle manner, and not only that but it also provides the viewer with an emotionally poignant experience. A charming and elegant piece of cinema, and one of the greatest domestic dramas ever.
5/5
>>64428213
I totally agree. I think Tokyo Story and Late Spring are the greatest movies of Ozu.
>>64428213
I actually like this better than Tokyo Story
The apple peeling scene makes me cry every tiem
ITT:pretentious foreign overrated shit.
>>64427418
What do you think about the intro speak about the prince and the deep slumber and how it connects with bale's life?
>>64428417
>probably hasn't seen or even heard of any of the foreign movies posted in this thread
>calls them overrated anyway
Bit pathetic m8. Enjoy your anti-intellectualism.
>>64428649
Truffout and Ozu are literally babby's first high school film class. If you think you're not regurgitating played out discussions on full-blown IMDBcore then you're just underage or pretentious. Teshigahara and Fujisaki shit all over Ozu just like how Renoir destroys Truffout. Try discussing something that hasn't already been beaten to death, familia
>>64427418
WHERE THE SUBS AT
>>64428756
I'm not the OP friend, but thanks.
Does Les Diaboliques count?
The plot twist was pretty ridiculous, but it was really spooky. Especially this scene.
>>64427438
just got the dvd for christmas, but haven't gotten to watching yet (have picked up several others around now too that take priority pretty much due to time constraints). What was the best thing about it for you? The only Tarkovsky I've seen so far is solaris.
>>64428783
Seriously, the films posted here are something even a senior year high school film class would have moved beyond. It's also very clearly demonstrating an American mindset towards film. How about instead of teenagers just discovering FNW we discuss how the Theater of Cruelty had an impact on Franju's Blood of the Beasts, or how Dali and Buñuel advanced from Un Chien Andalou with Land Without Bread?
But no, let's talk about Citizen Kane with its 16 ASA film stock and deep focus cinematography for the umpteenth time
>>64428874
It's great despite following conventional pop formula. About as good as any of the high tier Hitchcock films. Some interesting trivia from the wiki:
>The film created a sensation upon its original release. It has often been likened to the films of Alfred Hitchcock; some sources say that Alfred Hitchcock missed out on purchasing the rights to the Boileau and Narcejac novel by just a few hours, Clouzot getting to the authors first.[9] The end credit contains an early example of an "anti-spoiler message."
>The film was a success at the box office, with 3,674,380 admissions in France alone. The film gained additional press when, only five years after its release, Véra Clouzot died of a heart attack at age 46, somewhat mirroring her character in the film, who also had heart problems.
>>64428929
I never went to any film classes in my school (don't even know if there was one) but I really doubt that any high school film club would study Truffout or Ozu. In fact I doubt there would be much foreign material shown at all.
Just recently saw that 'a brighter summer day' is getting a criterion release this march. I'm so excited!
>>64428929
I'm curious, would you rather talk about how incredibly influenced Kurosawa was by Noh in making his foray from painting to film or do you think that's just been beaten to death in its entirety as well? Or what may've fueled Oshima to stick to his everlasting brutal gut?
Upon which wall is it that you see 'american goggles' repeatedly bashing against without progression?
>>64427893
that scene when they are pulling up and bundling those reeds together to form a shelter, before the sun goes down. holy fuck it is so impressive and immersive.
>>64429021
>>64428929
so as I understand so far, you say if a movie is known by lots of people, it's bad? Renoir gave his masterpieces at 30's and he's amazing. Truffout is the creater of avangard cinema and french new wave... we can't get to anywhere with insulting him. Un Chien Andoluo. wanna talk about it? it was based on the dreams of dali and Bunuel. a short movie 10 minutes or more I guess. First surrealist movie. nothing to understand in that movie. the most important thing about it, that it's the first surrealist movie. We need to talk about discreet charm of the bourgeoisie if you wanna talk about Bunuel. Or Simón del desierto.
Unknown films = Good Films?!
>>64429465
yea
>>64429533
oh you're just cocky.. you don't know shit m8. A movie can be known and good. There are many examples.
>>64429584
sorry
>>64428929
>16 ASA film stock
....
>>64427563
>>64427658
>>64427693
>>64427736
>>64428213
Guys, I use this site http://torrentbutler.eu/
I enter the directors name and all his movies are showing up. Any better sites?
>>64427928
http://www.openculture.com/2015/07/andrei-tarkovsky-calls-kubricks-2001-a-space-odyssey-a-phony-film-with-only-pretensions-to-truth.html
>>64428929
Of course that's your contention. You're a first-year film student; you just got finished watching some nouvelle vague cinema, Jacques Rivette probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'till next month when you get to Godard's maoist period. Then you're going to be talking about how Truffaut's shamelessly became petit bourgeois after the 60's. That's gonna last until next year; you're gonna be in here regurgitating André Bazin, talkin' about, you know, caméra-stylo and mise-en-scène.
"Is every shot a manifestation of God"? You got that from Cahiers du Cinéma n° 97, page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you, is that your thing, you come on 4chan, quote some obscure opinion and then pretend - you pawn it off as your own, as your own idea just to impress some virgins, embarrass my tripfriends? See, the sad thing about a guy like you is, in 50 years you're gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you're going to come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life: one, don't do that, and two, you dropped 150 grand on a fuckin' education you could have got for a low ratio warning on karagarga.
>>64429980
OP loves you.
>>64427733
totally agree
>>64429980
Lmao, nice
>>64429980
ask him if he likes apples
>>64428756
>Renoir destroys Truffaut
true, and Truffaut would agree with you
>Teshigahara and Fujisaki shit all over Ozu
Fujiskai simply doesn't exist, and comparing Teshigahara to Ozu is like comparing apples and oranges, totally absurd
>>64427350
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors was legendary director Sergei Parajanov's first major work. The rich use of colors and costumes, the epileptic, almost schizophrenic narrative and mood progression, combined with the stunning camera-work resulted into an absolutely unique, beautiful, and at times head-ache inducing experience, a surreal and spiritual trip with an extensive thematic menu, impossible to digest in a single viewing. Also one of the most advanced films of its time. Historically and aesthetically important, and an essential viewing.
4/5
>>64429465
>Truffout is the creater of avangard cinema
>Un Chien Andoluo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpr8mXcX80Q
oh boy
>>64429980
How do I give this man an upvote?
>>64429980
DAMN THIS IS SOME OSCAR WINNING DIALOGUE TIER FIRE
SOME GOOD WILL HUNTING SHIT
SHANE IS THAT YOU
how you like your horror f a m?
[On Francois Truffaut] I liked Truffaut enormously, I admired him. His way of relating with an audience, of telling a story, is both fascinating and tremendously appealing. It's not my style of storytelling, but it works wonderfully well in relation to the film medium.
- Ingmar Bergman
[When asked why he 'never showed up in Rome] I was too shy. Bergman and Fellini are way too big for me.
-Andrei Tarkovsky
>>64428756
>>64430302
[On Jean Renoir] The world's greatest film-maker.
-Truffaut
see?
>>64428756
>>64430302
[On Jean Renoir] I think Renoir is the only filmmaker who's practically infallible, who has never made a mistake on film. And I think if he never made mistakes, it's because he always found solutions based on simplicity—human solutions. He's one film director who never pretended. He never tried to have a style, and if you know his work—which is very comprehensive, since he dealt with all sorts of subjects—when you get stuck, especially as a young filmmaker, you can think of how Renoir would have handled the situation, and you generally find a solution.
-Truffaut
[On Godard]
“I’ve never been able to appreciate any of his films, nor even understand them… I find his films affected, intellectual, self-obsessed and, as cinema, without interest and frankly dull… I’ve always thought that he made films for critics.”
That's my Ingmar
>>64431021
>>64430990
yeah, that's what I said, he would definitely agree
>>64430907
will they ever learn
>>64431082
I know that's why I linked you too haha I tought you'd like to see that you are right!
>>64431139
well, yeah, people tend to like being right
>>64430813
Don't Look Now is one of the most outstanding films I've seen, horror or not. A rather impressive cinematic work, despite its distasteful clamminess. I admire its aesthetic and innovative cinematic language. The film itself is more of a psychological, metaphysical take on horror, and that's what makes it so unique. Maybe a little too off putting for casuals though.
>>64431490
>distasteful clamminess
What do you mean by this? Haven't seen it yet.
>>64429980
>Do you like Malick?
>y-yeah
>Well I'm taking his philosophy class. How do you like them Malicks?
The Anvil Hoarder - (1920)
Film as an artform hit its climax with this piece. They never made a sequel so I like to imagine he was finally rid of all those anvils
>>64431583
Do I look like a searchbox? Go read the dictionary dude.
>>64431714
Was asking what you meant in context of the movie. Not what the words themselves meant you fucking moron.
Recently watched The Seventh Seal and The Exterminating Angel. I liked both of them. I'm surprised they didn't remake The Exterminating Angel yet. I think the premise would be good to make it into a modern film. Then again, i can totally see that it would be complicated to transfer this film into todays times without making it look ridiculous.
>>64431490
This is so devoid of anything substantial.
I used to teach college writing and I'd get little pricks like you all the time. You think just because you've strung together a few sentences with a couple college-level words, you're making an argument. Don't Look Now is indeed a good movie. And, hell, it's a psychological take on horror that plays with viewership and where to focus attention within the frame. Nothing you've said is arguable because nothing you've said is quite an argument. It's more like a series of selective vocab words.
>>64430422
Thank you for this recommendation. I've seen The Colours of Pomegranates and I love it, I'll watch this one, too.
>>64431859
Why do you want to see a remake of these extremely well made movies that still hold up perfectly well? Seems very little productive to me.
lol this isnt a star wars thread
>tfw we finally get a decent version of Chimes at Midnight this year
thank you based criterion
>>64427438
shit
>>64427546
best film
>>64427772
nice
>>64428874
great
>>64428144
gas him!
>>64432820
Is hating Andrei Rublev the new edgy meme?
>>64432820
>Andrei Rublev
>less than a 9.5
I bet you haven't even seen it, m8eo
>>64431871
Hahaha well you have a very sharp reading comprehension dude. Not bad for a teenager.
>>64432667
Probably my second favorite cinema adaptation of a Shakespeare play only behind Throne of Blood.
I've never been to film school and I've really only started watching classic world cinema over the past few years. Which other directors will give me that feeling of existentialism or life that I get from Tarkovsky's Stalker or even 400 Blows? More than anything else, I like these films that seem to take on conflicts that we maybe don't know are inside of us and offer a myriad of ways to combat them. If that makes sense.
>>64433246
>Throne of Blood
das it mane
An American Film made by a German
>>64432667
I'm seeing it at film forum this saturday!
>>64433300
Mr. Bergman, Mr. Dreyer and Mr. Bresson might be able to help you
>>64433827
Im jelly
>>64427616
>People think that Godard started the french new wave, but actually this genius did.
Who thinks Godard started the French new wave? Anyone who looked at even the release dates of the 400 Blows and Breathless will see that Truffaut was earlier.
The French New Wave is, as New Hollywood, difficult to pinpoint exactly. Directors such as Melville and Malle were both making excellent films before the whole Cashiers du cinema thing, and are considered part of the wave.
>>64432298
It's not a masterpiece like TCoP but it's still an excellent film with many merits.
>>64434058
>Mr. Bresson
just don't
>>64434178
The film Little Fugitive was the model for the New French Wave aesthetic. Theories about the movement itself started around 1947-48.
Someone mentioned that Truffaut sold out to make mainstream, traditional cinema. True, but he was an effervescent thinker of french new wave's theories, and plain and simple, the single most important individual of the movement, and didn't exactly owe anything to anyone when he did that.
However, Godard was a far more important filmmaker, if only for his work with cinematic structure.
who /rohmer/ here?
>>64427350
The only reason I watched this movie was because I read on IMDB that this is Ellen Page's favorite movie.
>>64434972
Well, did you like the film?
>>64432820
Did he just called Andrei Rublev shit?
The Killers (1946)
>>64435418
Forgot Robert Siodmak as director
Nice thread folks
Guys I created this Kik group to have a more active conversation. Anyone can join.
Is France The Cuck country? It seems like 90% of their films feature someone cheating on someone.
>>64434212
just don't be a pleb like yorself
>genuine attempts at decent discussion
>useless, self important tripfag getting BTFO
keep it up brothers, I knew even star wars couldn't kill /tv/
>>64435895
I will never let /tv/ die don't worry about that.
The Phantom Carriage is a great silent era spooky film
>>64435707
This was tried with whatsapp and skype in the past, with I think skype being more successful. Both turned in to shitposting eventually because once the conversation slows down after the initial hubbub people think it's a good idea to start posting board wide invites, which it is't. I don't have kik unfortunately but good look to you.
Not sure if this is the right thread for this but I just saw La Strada and didn't really care for it. I'm interested in hearing what other people liked about it.
Also the dubbing looked like garbage, but it seems like that was at least half intentional.
>>64435895
/tv/ is in safe hands.
What about The Anvil Hoarder (1930)
>>64436118
What about Back To The Reddit (1985)
>>64436118
get a load of this redite
>>64436118
Where's your image and who directed it?
>>64427350
>Films no one has seen or cares about
>>64436356
>one of the most influentual films, inspiring many films in modern cinema
>no one has seen or cares about
lol
>>64436356
I know you're memeing, but one of the first things you realize when you start to explore "underseen," "obscure," or "difficult" films is that they are usually quite accessible and generally widely loved, just not, as of yet, by you.
>>64436356
>no one has seen or cares about
>>64436356
>anons whose parents don't care about
>>64436356
>Some of the most famous movies ever
>No one has seen or cares about
Here's your reply
>>64436356
LOL
>>64436074
La Strada is a great film, one of the quintessential works of italian neorealism. I do have problems with it however; the screenplay is perfect, but the overly dramatic, burlesque performances just don't fit into the film's candy-coated and melancholic style.
