http://deadline.com/2016/01/weekend-box-office-star-wars-force-awakens-hateful-eight-new-years-2016-1201674917/
>Friday 2ND UPDATE, 11:42PM: Early Friday PM industry figures show Disney’s Star Wars: The Force Awakens making as much as $35M today, raising its cume through 15 days to $687M. What does this mean? It means that Force Awakens bypassed the No. 2 and No. 3 all-time domestic grossing titles Titanic ($658.7M) and Jurassic World ($652.27M) in the same day. By end of Sunday, Force Awakens’ total will stand at $744.8M-$746M, just $14.5M-$15.7M short of Avatar‘s all-time domestic record of $760.5M. Should these figures hold up, this would put Force Awakens in a position to own the all-time crown by end of Monday. Worst case scenario – Tuesday.
It begins
>>64375679
Pity that faggot Abatap doesn't still post here.
>>64375679
> 2 billion world wide
I'd like to see them try
AVATARFAGS BTFO
>But Muh Cameron
LE TRASH
>>64375776
Speak of the devil and he shall appear.
>>64375777
It'll make it easily.
It'll overtake Avatar. No fucking doubt.
>>64375777
>mfw after all the expectations of under-performing it becomes a huge hit in China
I don't care except for the fact that Avatar is absolute dogshit and even with its numerous, numerous flaws, Force Awakens is better.
Fucking losers spending money to see this.
WOW!this is completely unsurprising
Still won't beat the highest grossing film of all time.
All this really proves is movies are dead, all that matters is the hype.
>>64375811
>No P6Ltrip
The only thing more pathetic than Abatap is the losers who imitate him.
>>64375815
It's not going to happen JJ, sorry
>>64375679
BUTTTTTTTT......./pol/ told me no one like niggers and womenz?
>>64375865
Kek, watch it happen. Avatar sucks shit and Cameron sucks shit. Go back to Reddit.
>>64375865
It will
>>64375826
yeah fuck those losers spending their excess cash to be entertained with their family and friends
were much better off sitting here in a darkened room bitter and alone. pretending not to care so we dont show we care to much
>>64375679
>b-b-b-but no one will s-s-see the movie because of the nigger f-f-fucking dropped Star wars is dead for everyone SJw btfo AMIRITE
/pol/, not even once.
the relentless obsession with money and RT scores is one of the worst things about this place.
And it's still not out in China.
R.I.P Avatar
my same thread created at 22:33 404'd for some reason
>>64375679
good luck making 2 bil overseas
I thought there were going to be multiple mass shootings in theaters for this movie /tv/, what happened? Kek. This board is a joke. Full of delusion and NEET-tier misery.
>>64375892
It's all shit, FA included.
Why do you care?
>>64375777
i have it tracking at 2.45b worldwide which is still well short
cap this post
I thought they'd never beat Titanic because nobody could.
Is the George Lucas curse broken?
>>64375919
>>64375891
I don't know anons. /pol/ does seem awfully sure that "no one likes niggers or women". They are really really confident. Yet, reality constantly seems to contradict everything they say. I'm so confused!
>>64375968
Realistically this film won't get above 250 mil in China.
Believe me, I'd love this film to topple Avatar but I just don't see it happening.
Getting to 2 billion would be a good number to settle at for TFA.
/tv/ status:
[ ] Not Told
[x] Stone Told Steve Austin
>>64376108
>Realistically this film won't get above 250 mil in China
Theaters there are estimating as much as 300m+.
And for the record, that's more than Avatar made there.
>>64376108
I've seen statistics showing the box office progress for TFA Avatar and Titanic and TFA was on top.
Someone PLEASE put the just hair on lucas
>>64376148
Really? I was just looking at numbers made by other films this year.
Ultron got to around 220 mil
Jurassic World got like 240 mil
Furious 7 got 389 mil (how????)
>>64376108
>250 mil in China
Still more than Avatar.
>>64376108
They're projecting it to make quite a bit of money in China. More than Avatar.
>>64376076
I came into this thread just to say this shit hahaha. As soon as Star Wars isn't his anymore it beats Titanic! he fucked up the sequels trying to make as much money as possible by catering to everyone. Deserves it. George on suicide watch.
>People actually believe hollywood accounting
Fuck, you're all idiots.
> All these pointless niche records
Has it made 2.8 billion yet?
No?
Call me when it does.
>>64376208
China had a shitty box office return back in 09-10
I want TFA to win worldwide but it just won't happen.
>>64376201
>Really?
Yeah. They think it'll do as well as Transformers 4, which brought in $320 million.
>>64375860
pretty sure people who actually know tripcodes are WAY more pathetic
>>64376226
When I meant "topple" I meant worldwide, not China.
It'll beat Avatar's 204 mil pretty easily I think
If TFA can't hit 3 billion with the massive increase in ticket prices and increased screens J.J. should kill himself.
>>64376321
Not at all, faggot. Not even the guy you were talking too, but there is literally, LITERALLY, nothing worse than a trip fag.
>>64376343
Bruh hitting 3 billion isn't some easy ass number.
>>64376276
I'm from the future
It beat Avatar. James Cameron committed suicide in order for Avatar 2-4 to beat it
TFA was one of the worst fucking movies I have ever seen.
If it wins an Oscar, I will officially believe that I'm living in some alternate meme universe.
....... and it was a lame ass flick with poor characters and stupid story....
lost 2 hours of my life
i fucking PREY they break no records, they don't deserve it
>>64376392
>TFA was one of the worst fucking movies I have ever seen.
Watch some more movies pal
>>64376321
Nope.
>>64376373
It's the single most hyped film in all history, with the most expensive tickets and most screens any film ever has played on. If it can't beat Avatars 2.8 bil, it's a fucking joke.
>>64376392
>>64376404
Yeah? Anon, please tell us more!
>>64376418
a movie with this budget and this "backstory" ??
yea proportionally i agree with him it was the worst movie of this dimension, ever
sad, just fucking sad, tragic
>>64376422
I honestly don't know how Avatar pulled 2.8 billion off. It's numbers are some crazy ass anomaly.
>>64376084
>samefagging
helloooo reddit
>>64376463
He said "worst movie I have ever seen" not "worst movie I have ever seen of this dimension"
Only 1.5 billion more to go!
You can do it Disney!
>>64376436
you're speaking to 2 different people
>>64376418
Sure, I've seen much much worse, but it doesn't deserve all of the hype and accolades it's generating.
Fucking people treating it like it's the second coming of christ because their lives are so boring an pointless, all they have to look forward to is a fucking movie.
>>64376467
>being this young.
C'mon now kid, make it a bit harder for people to spot your underage self.
>>64376467
Everybody wanted Jim Cameron return after 12 fucking years of absence. Some wanted another Aliens or The Terminator and some wanted another Titanic. Therefore he did both and it wasn't as good.
>>64376467
People like it. People went back and watched it over and over. Same as Titanic.
>>64376467
I watched avatar like 3 times in theaters... once in IMAX... I'm the type that pirates literally everything.
>>64375679
>domestic
>Spening arround 6 Billion
>Making 600 Billion
When will Disney own the world exactly?
>>64376510
Could you kindly explain Avatar's box office trend? Please anon? I'm so young...
>>64376422
True.
I regret my 3D tickets bought @ 17€
>>64375915
Wew lad calm down and come back when you don't feel like strawmanning
>>64376560
Well it revolutionized CGI.
It was massive for it's time. It's only 6 years old, you should know why it was so huge, you should have seen it.
Anyone who talks shit about Avatar along the lines of "why did it earn so much?" are young as shit and simply didn't see the glory that LITERALLY revolutionized modern American cinema for ever.
Not even memeing here. You're simply a child.
>>64375679
Is /tv/ officially on suicide watch?
>>64376559
It's just pocket-change compared to how much google and oil-companies make
Even if you think TFA is shit. It deserves to be #1 waaaaaaaaaaay much fucking more then pocahontas in space.
>>64376560
>>64376560
> 1% drop in second week.
People flipped for it. People enjoyed it.
> Force Awakens
> 33% drop in second week
Marketing hype.
>>64375679
Nothing can beat Titanic
>>64376559
>when
top kek anon, guess what. you are currently living in a setting where if you had some they live sunglasses, every one would be wearing mickey mouse ears
>>64376615
says the guy whos post consisted of the most basic ad hominem ever written? k ill do that anon
>>64376633
I'm not even talking shit about Avatar.
It just seems quite astonishing even with the technological advancements from the film.
Maybe a better question is how did Titanic pull off its numbers, what was its unique value at the time?
>>64376664
>nothing can sink Titanic
>>64376633
>Well it revolutionized CGI.
no it didn't
it had a lot of hype from the reintroduction of 3D, which turned out to be a fad
it had a simple story with decent action that appealed to 3rd worlders
>>64376652
A Star Wars movie in general deserves to be a number 1 blockbuster.
>>64376716
>Maybe a better question is how did Titanic pull off its numbers, what was its unique value at the time?
Being the largest 1st world human tragedies at the time?
>>64376729
Yes, yes it did. There were no movies that did CGI as well as it did. It had nothing to do with 3d, if anything Avatar was one of the final nails in the coffin for 3d, as if Avatar can't do it right, what can?
>>64376633
Avatar was a little better than mediocre in every way.
But the audience obsession was real.
I'm old enough to remember the Titanic hype too.
Titanic and Avatar were similar to The Sixth Sense...something that was huge based on word of mouth and genuine audience excitement.
TFA is good entertainment, but the hype isn't the same. It's just marketing/nostalgia. Like Jurassic World.
Just look at the week to week drops. Avatar barely dropped. Titanic and Sixth Sense I believe made MORE.
TFA lost 35%.
Not front loaded like a horror film and a realllllly good hold for your average blockbuster...but not a phenomenon.
>>64376652
>something shit
>deserve being #1
what
>>64376729
werent the tickets also like 3 times more expensive anyway, skewing the numbers
honestly though yeah, avatar was the definition of all flash and no substance, but who cares still make butloads of cash
>>64376716
Women. Girls at my school, no hyperbole, saw that film ten times in the cinema.
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>>64376560
>no one has inflation in mind
Adjusting for inflation, Gone with the Wind is the most commercially succesful movie ever, followed by Avatar and with Star Wars 77' in the third position.
>>64376792
>It had nothing to do with 3d
u wot m8
That is completely wrong.
>>64376833
What a market.
I dont understand the point of these threads. Avatar is shit, Force Awakens was shit, its obvious to everyone that box office earnings have nothing in fuck to do with quality, so why even care?
>>64376809
It's less shit than the current number one.
>>64376809
maybe learn to read his entire sentence?
go ahead and reread it again and maybe pay attention to the qualifier "waaaaaaaaaaay much fucking more then pocahontas in space"
>>64375892
>disagrees with someone
>LEL GO BACK TO REDDIT
when will this meme die?
>>64376850
3D was a gimmick, there is a reason why it's not around anymore.
3D is not why Avatar did as well as it did, if it were, it would still be around.
People didn't see Avatar in droves because it was in 3D.
>>64376860
your opinion also has nothing to do with quality.
>>64376841
>t. armchair box office analyst
>Domestic
Wow... Fucking nothing.... Worldwide is the only thing that matters, retards.
>>64376841
>"Muh inflation!"
Fuck off
>>64376792
Are you underaged b&?
Avatar's main selling point was the 3D. It was the first big film since...well...ever to use it. The first film to use it in decades really. It was a massive part of the hype and appeal.
And the CGI was meh. It was a slight improvement on LOTR and weaker than the Pirates sequels.
You sound like you were born in the 90's.
>>64375892
Avatar was fucking beautiful, TFA was not.
Avatar was ORIGINAL, TFA was literally almost a reboot.
>>64376894
3D was literally the main reason people saw it.
Are you 12?
>>64376914
its gross sales
the net on the foreign gross is considerably less than the domestic net
>>64376894
>People didn't see Avatar in droves because it was in 3D.
No, but it made a shit ton more on overpriced ticket sales because people were saying that you "have to see it in 3D!".
>>64375811
Tы чё pyccкий?
>>64376953
>Dances with Wolves ripoff
>Original
>>64376953
>>Avatar was ORIGINAL
>LITERALLY Pocahontas in space
>>64376792
>not about 3D
It was all about 3D. Don't you remember how it was actually marketed?
>>64376894
3D was a gimmick because of Avatar, everyone bought into the idea that 'it transports you into a magical realm!!' then when they actually got into theaters, they realized it was shit, and then didn't see other 3d movies.
>>64376953
>Avatar was fucking beautiful, TFA was not.
>Avatar was ORIGINAL, TFA was literally almost a reboot.
Avatar was even more of a reboot. And it really wasn't "Fucking beautiful". Things doesn't look good only because it glows.
>>64376953
>Dances with wolves in space was ORIGINAL
Get out of here kid
>>64376928
>And the CGI was meh
xD
>It was a slight improvement on LOTR and weaker than the Pirates sequels.
(you)
>>64376954
>3D was literally the main reason people saw it.
Yeah, no. If it were so you could then easily attribute the success of Avatar due to 3D, sounds logical? Where did 3D go? 3D was obviously not the selling point, but the vastly imagined alien world and self insert MC which everyone frothed over.
>>64375915
Spending money and socializing is fine. Spending money on dumb unoriginal Hollywood blockbusters like TFA is plebby and lame as shit. Sucks you have nothing less retarded to do than let Disney take your pleb money for 2 hours of light swords, epic hairy reddit aliens, etc
>>64377043
>3D was obviously not the selling point, but the vastly imagined alien world and self insert MC which everyone frothed over.
I'm starting to think you're just trolling.
>>64376841
>Adjusting for inflation, Gone with the Wind is the most commercially succesful movie ever, followed by Avatar and with Star Wars 77' in the third position
There's no way in hell Avatar beats Star Wars when taking inflation into account.
Pocahontas or dances with wolfes? Make up your mind /tv/
or maybe pacahontas = dances with wolves
i dont know, i never saw pocahontas, you tell me bitches
>>64377043
> Where sid 3D go?
Nowhere. Nearly all major blockbusters, including The Force Awakens, are released in 3D.
>>64377077
>There's no way in hell Avatar beats Star Wars when taking inflation into account.
Google it. It's unfortunately true.
>>64377085
It's essentially a rehash of both.
Was Pocahantas from her point of view where's Dances with Wolves was from Costner's?
>>64377077
I was shocked to find this out too. But it's true if you take global ticket sales into account.
Pretty crazy.
why are people saying 3D is dead? every movie still releases in 3D, and this year there are 3 different VR headsets coming out
>>64376953
>Avatar was ORIGINAL
>>64376652
Not really. They're both shitty stories, but one of them is technologically impressive. Why shouldn't the more impressive feat garner the higher spot?
Star Wars gross is literally moved by marketing at this point. Am I supposed to be impressed that the media siege Disney waged against the world worked? When Avatar's excitement, no matter how unwarranted, was entirely genuine?
Ya'll niggas crazy.
>>64377059
ad hominem
you sound butthurt that others managed to enjoy something desu senpai
>avatar was Pocahontas in space
well i guess TFA was just ANH in space, too, with, same characters, same planets same story same everything
i wonder who's the most original omg its hard to tell
>>64377120
All I want to do is watch IMAX 2D.
That's all I ever wanted from a theater...
CAMERON FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>64376953
>dances with wolves
>pocahontas
>ferngully (ESPECIALLY THIS ONE!)
nope
>>64377165
>same characters, same planets same story same everything
You're a big shitposter.
>>64377072
>being a meme poster
[1] "Troll"
[0] (you)
>>64377089
>Nowhere. Nearly all major blockbusters, including The Force Awakens, are released in 3D.
Yes, but it's not a selling point, like it was with Avatar, that's exactly the point. 3D wasn't invented for Avatar, it had been around for a while before hand and big movies did use it.
>Shark boy and Lava girl
>2 HP movies
>Journey to the Center of the Earth
>An Ice Age movie
>Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
3D was not the reason why everyone saw Avatar, it's simple as that. 3D is not why people saw it upwards of 3-4 times. 3D is not why people became suicidal when Avatar came out. There was no alien world as imagined as it, no world as visual as Avatar was.
>>64377186
still more original than a reboot
>>64377176
why not 3D?
>>64377043
> 3D was obviously not the selling point
It was literally the selling point. It was on the posters.
3D exhibition and technology was a focal point of all of the films marketing. Down to the product tie ins with sports brands and soft drinks.
Over 50% of it's box office business was derived from 3D screenings, despite most cinemas having very limited 3D projection capacity.
>>64377165
TFA honestly borrows from all 3 OT films not just IV.
I'm interested to see where VIII will go.
>>64377202
Not one of those films are big movies.
2 of them are animated.
You're objectively wrong regardless, as 3D was literally a selling point of the film, and the majority of the audience viewed the film in 3D.
>>64377202
3D was mostly just a gimmick until Avatar came out
>>64377208
I've never had an experience with 3D where it felt justified.
>go to movies
>$25 ticket
this movie is a failure if it doesn't make 5 billion
>>64377202
> no world wad as visual as Avatar was
This nonsense speak sounds crazy enough to be Abatatp.
doesn't matter it won't have changed cinema for all time like Avatar did.
Also
>0/10 Avatar 2: The Smerfening is coming
>>64377259
It was a gimmick during and after Avatar came out too.
It was just as shitty as it was in the 80's.
>>64377283
Max had to have been $18
>>64377252
Some of those movies were huge though, when they came out.
Like Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, for example.
Of course, when tlaking about Avatar you are not going to be able to name big movies, it's the biggest.
>harry potter weren't big movies
What?
>>64377288
Feel free to name movies with an alien world as vivid as Cameron's.I think I just love Avatar because I live in the area where some of the inspirations come from for the movie, I literally get to walk the rain forests which inspired these movies daily.
>>64377043
Avatar was basically a modern 3D proof-of-concept. Like a console tech demo, and movies have been released consistently in 3D ever since.
>>64376860
Because it all boils down to a scoring system for people who are more interested in gross measuring contests between shitty movies, just so they can make the people who like whichever movie or don't like it feel worse.
It honestly ties into this board (arguably this website) and the fear its had over the years as being seen as what used to be called a hipster, but is now called fedora, edgy, whatever you like. The fact that I only see such words used as shaming tactics in this place, and the efficacy, reveals just how obsessed a lot of people here are with perceptions. You call someone a fedora in real life for expressing an opinion, they're going to look at you like you just had a stroke and are struggling to articulate. Level the accusation that someone here is only doing something to disagree with the mainstream? They are instantly on the defensive, and whatever you were arguing about can be brushed to the side.
The need to break away from conventional thoughts in this place has encouraged a lot of outside-of-the-box discourse, but at some point everyone here became so afraid of being called a reverse conformist it tends to just fuck everything up now.
Hence why nearly every Star Wars thread is not even about the fucking movie, but about how wrong /pol/ was because the movie with a nigger and a woman is making money. Or it slowed down in its initial rush, meaning people are backlashing against negros and cucks in their movies.
Nevermind any real analysis of markets or other parts of the movie. Nevermind looking at previous Star Wars movies, nevermind looking at Disney's media blitz. Nevermind if the movie even fucking deserves the praise/hate it is getting. No, the movie doing well/poorly is only doing so because it sticks it to people I hate.
These are the same cunts who use buzzwords in place of arguments. Whether they go "It's just fun! No need to nitpick!" or "Reddit movie" they aren't interested in the movie, just winning the culture war.
>>64375798
>avatar is a shameless ripoff of Pocahontas and other stories that use the same structure
>The Force awakens is a shameless ripoff of an older SW movie
It's like pottery - it rhymes
>>64377369
Every single American movie produced nowadays has blacks and cuckings inside it.
>>64376384
kek
>>64377216
>dat feel when the time of 3D has passed again and along with it the opportunity to make Crank 3"FUCKIN"D
>>64377318
Cloudy was an animated film.
Harry Potter only released the final film in 3D. A post conversion done AFTER the success of 3D in making Avatar popular.
>>64377421
What about the revenant?
>>64377357
Pretty much any film with correct exposure.
Avatar's "world" looked like a cartoon. Not realistic. Which I think is a negative.
>>64376384
My sides
>>64377421
>Every single American movie produced nowadays has blacks and cuckings inside it.
/pol/ pls go
>>64377497
Different guy, could you explain why you found that a negative?
Not jumping on your shit or anything, but I'm not particularly sure why it being colorful would really matter all that much, at least enough to make it an instant negative. Do you just hate "cartoonish" concepts and worlds? Or was it just specifically Avatar that turned you off?
>>64377009
Avatar was not original; that is true.
But it is nearly as awful as TFA in terms of being the same old shit.
At least Avatar took a story that took place in the America's colonial past and put it into the future. Instead of a new continent, a new planet. Instead of Indians, Navi.
TFA takes the story from ANH and it takes place in the same place. The same desert planet, the same ultimate weapon, etc. Might as well make an exact shot-by-shot remake of ANH with different actors and slightly different visual effects but the same dialog.
>there are people who still think piracy hurts the industry with 4 films from 2015 alone being in the top 10 highest grossing of all time
>>64377445
>Harry Potter only released the final film in 3D. A post conversion done AFTER the success of 3D in making Avatar popular.
I don't knwo where you are getting your facts from, but they are wrong.
>order of the pheonix
>half blood prince
>Cloudy was an animated film.
So? Avatar is a animated film, as it's essentially CGI.
>>64377580
shhh anon, they monitor these sites
they'll take you down for stealing that potential 14 bucks from their pocket
>>64377497
>Pretty much any film with correct exposure.
That's not giving examples.
>>64377580
They just up the ticket price so normal people have to cover you pathetic NEETs
>>64377545
I mean it looked like a cartoon. As in it looked like animation. Because there were many live action elements, it looked like real people interacting with cartoons. So it didn't feel real. Like an actual place. Which broke the immersion and made it hard to care about the film.
>>64377624
Okay. Alien.
That seemed realistic.
>>64377580
Piracy has been a bullshit boogieman for a long time. It makes the argument that everybody who pirated your work would have bought it for granted, and that is such a fundamentally flawed conclusion to start at with no data to back it up other than an emotional "muh stealing" argument. It discounts things like free advertising, market penetration, things that make people gorillions of dollars in today's world.
It's just a half assed attempt to get even more money from people. They know that those people can't pay, but they think they can coerce that mystical niche of people who have money but don't give a fuck, despite numerous studies showing that humans value things they buy more than things they get for free/pirate.
It's a crock of horse shit and you only ever hear it spewed from media executives and ridiculously ignorant artists who probably don't handle the business end of their work in the first place, but they're told "PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE JUST TAKING YOUR SHIT FOR FREE".
>>64377369
I don't know how it is for other faggots on this board. But for me it has little to do with Star Wars, and more to the fact that fucking Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time. And that just can't go on. I'd way rather have Star Wars at top, for at least I like that franchise.
>>64377690
>I deserve free shit
Fuck off and pay for the damn movie
>>64377654
Oh, I see what you mean now. The unreality broke the illusion of the movie for you.
May I ask you to provide a movie with what you feel is "good" CG, that is still somewhat "otherworldly"? I guess I'm asking whether you just have your immersion broken by the introduction of obviously unrealistic elements into a semi-realistic setting, or just that Avatar specifically fucked it all up for you.
I only ask because realism might not have been Cameron's intention. A lot of artists like to infuse the surreal, even cartoonish as you say, just for the style of it. Do you think it was poor execution here or was it a poor idea from the getgo, and he should have done the movie more realistically?
>those Return of Kings redpillers acting like their boycott costing the movie $4 mil was a big victory
I don't know what is funnier, the fact that a vocal minority pissed over a black lead thought they ever stood a chance of making a dent in the earnings of the biggest movie of the decade in terms of hype, or that they celebrate a drop in the bucket like they made a difference
>>64377710
>actors have to eat you know
holy shit you're right, i feel so bad for them and their 20$ millions per movie - 3 months of work
>>64377682
Are you even trying?
>>64377690
>It makes the argument that everybody who pirated your work would have bought it for granted
If I couldn't pirate everything, at most I'd just be a motherfucker a pay a $1 per movie to a redbox to rent em for a day.
fuck paying +$15 to see a movie in a theater and +$25 to own it.
>can go to local pawn shop and buy a shit ton of good movies on bluray for a total of $30
>>64377710
Literally nowhere in my post did I say anything like that, in fact intimating that I prefer to pay for things than pirating them. Your reading comprehension is astounding.
Also I haven't seen Star Wars, I won't pirate Star Wars, I will simply catch it some day on my legitimate Netflix account, or maybe HBO will catch it years down.
Not everybody needs Disney cock in their throat so bad they need to pirate it if they can't pay for it.
>>64377788
>Baww I want free shit
That's all I'm hearing nigga
>>64377592
> I don't knwo where you are getting your facts from, but they are wrong.
Warner Brother's and James Cameron. Who had a public argument about the quality of the 3D post conversion work on the final chapter (the only film released in 3D in the series, which was 2 years after Avatar) where Cameron accused Warner Brothers of doing poor quality work in an attempt to cash in on the success of 3D as introduced by Avatar.
Half Blood Prince had a limited 3D release outside of the United States.
Order of the Phoenix only had one scene in 3D at special limited screenings.
>>64377799
None of that money goes to the original seller/artist either. In fact, this very debate is what caused the videogame industry to start bitching and trying to counteract USED game sales more than they ever have tried to curb piracy. Legitimate sales from a third party will always be a legitimate threat, because as you say, if people can't pirate, they aren't going to suddenly pull hundreds of dollars out of their ass, they're going to buy their merchandise at a discount, legally, and now they have LITERALLY no imperative to give you money, whereas a pirate is always a potential future customer.
Microsoft understands this, and yet dipshits who just go "MUH STEALING" think they know better.
>>64377787
I bet you 95% or more of them still would've seen it.
>>64377852
>Warner Brother's and James Cameron. Who had a public argument about the quality of the 3D post conversion work on the final chapter (the only film released in 3D in the series, which was 2 years after Avatar) where Cameron accused Warner Brothers of doing poor quality work in an attempt to cash in on the success of 3D as introduced by Avatar.
Funny, I didn't mention Deathly Hallows.
>Half Blood Prince had a limited 3D release outside of the United States.
>Order of the Phoenix only had one scene in 3D at special limited screenings.
This is correct, and the examples I used. Funny how you no longer want to argue Avatar.
>>64377427
CRANK3D would have been the greatest shit ever imagined by humans. I cry every time I remember it'll never happen.
>>64377555
As a non-American, I couldn't care less for their past. The rest of the world gets American history pushed in our faces so much that it gets really boring really fast.
I like Star Wars, on the other hand. Even though it's not the most unique of sci-fi universes. And even though TFA was in many ways similar to ANH, it really wasn't a shot-by-shot remake, but more of a homage of the OT. And I can see why people dislike that, it's just that it proves to myself and other similar minded fans, that Disney are on the right track. The only major problem I had with the film was the third Death Star. That was fucking stupid and they should have known better.
>>64377762
Depends on the film. I've been full immersed in pure cartoons before, because I guess there is a consistency.
I've watched films like the Pirates films where the effects are integrated so well, so it's not distracting. But there are also films with bad effects where I guess I didn't notice because the story was so good or the designs were good enough/appealing enough to make it work for me.
But I think mostly consistency.
For instance, there was nothing in the first third of Avatar that through me off. Or a film that is blatantly unreal like something like Grand Budapest Hotel where the whole picture is "consistent".
I think the live action plus the designs of Avatar are what through me off. That and the effects weren't very good - but were 90% of the image at any given time. Rather than just a background thing or a minor appearance.
Why did Avatar make so much money anyways?
>>64377930
But your examples are irrelevant?
Avatar was a film shot and released wide in 3D. That was part of its matketing and a selling point.
The two Harry Potter films you mentioned weren't.
One wasn't even released in North America.
>>64378022
That makes some sense. As the movie progresses Jake becomes more and more integrated with the "aliens" and less and less integrated with us humans. As a result the movie does tend to go into higher heights of imagination, but I could easily see how that would be--if you'll pardon the pun--alienating.
Thanks for answering me legitimately. Most people who make a comment like yours aren't willing to back it up.
>>64378055
interracial sex with aliens
>>64378090
The same thing happens with audiences (meaning other people, not iust me) when they often go back and watch films where the effects have aged badly.
>>64377992
Crank 3 is supposedly still happening and its one of the few things Jason Statham is actually hyped to eventually get to do
>>64378145
I'm not disputing this, I was more curious since at least from a technological perspective, Avatar was the most advanced of its time by a pretty large order of magnitude. But I recognize your issue isn't with CG or animation in general, but its poor application that turned even a cutting edge movie into a cartoon in your eyes.
Which is precisely why I asked for the elaboration. I was curious.
>>64378066
They are massive motion pictures which used 3D, if you think they didn't use them as a selling point, you are blatantly wrong.
That's the only reason I mentioned Cloudy, but you wrote it off as
>animated
Which really only speaks for your intellect and your refusal to actually make any points. Or refute them for that matter.
If you think it's irrelevant, you're simply wrong, and you should stop.
The point which you were trying to argue was Avatar was the first motion picture to utilize 3D. It wasnt, you're wrong.
While we are at it, I will circle back to the original point and say you are also wrong in saying 3D is the reason Avatar did so well.
So as of right now, even if TFA makes $300 million in China it will still be a billion behind Avatar worldwide.
How exactly is it supposed to make another billion?
>>64376467
For me, it was >>64376520, but for WAY more people, it was the 3D gimmick. It was the first major movie release to go all in with 3D.
>TFA was a mistake
t- George Lucas
>>64378411
Disney sent us to Hell, but we're going even deeper! Take back EVERYTHING we've lost!
>>64376384
Bullshit James Cameron isn't dead. He just bought out every theater in the world and forced them to play Avatar 2 for a year straight.
God I wish abatap was still here. Whatever Russian gulag he's in I hope he knows avatar is about to get btfo by a shitty kids movie.
>>64376953
Enjoying your stay redditt?
>>64378471
so... TFA is a ruse and the real george lucas is directing the real episode 7?
HYPE
But guys, I love Avatar AND TFA. This is literally win-win 4me
Jesus. It's only been a couple of days.
This shit is gonna make 3 billion. Screencap this
>>64376084
>KUCKS THINK THIS MOVIE MAKES MONEY FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN ITS NAME IS 'STAR WARS'
LMAO
STILL WONT BEAT AVATAR'S WORLDWIDE GROSS
AND AVATAR DID IT AS AN ORIGINAL PROPERTY NOT A REHASHED SEQUEL WITH 'STAR WARS' NAME RECOGNITION
JJ ABRAMS IS A PANDERING SJW FAGGOT, JAMES CAMERON IS A TRAILBLAZING LITERAL GOD
>>64378970
>avatar
>original
anon ii love avatar but it's hardly original
also your and nigger
WHY DON'T THEY RELEASE THE NUMBER OF TICKETS SOLD INSTEAD SO WE CAN ACTUALLY COMPARE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY WATCHED.
>>64379320
Because that wouldn't give them the ability to tell media outlets to bombard the world with all of the "record breaking sales" as easily.
Come on son, this is basic marketing.
>>64376841
Didn't gone with the wind get re released in theaters every 5 or 10 years? Since no one had home movies really
>>64379320
box office mojo seems to have that data:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
Reminder that TFA will be in theatres for AT LEAST another two and a half months (it's been 3 weeks so far)
>>64376662
>1% drop
what?
Avatar dropped 33% in it's second week.
I swear you people are remembering history wrong.
>>64375776
Thanks for reminding me of that asshole.
/tv/ was always unbearable.
>>64378001
>it's just that it proves to myself and other similar minded fans, that Disney are on the right track.
Why? Because it looked like the OT and not the prequels? Any movie company/Director would've done that if it was going to be a post RotJ story.
>>64380191
>Any movie company/Director would've done that if it was going to be a post RotJ story
You don't know that for a fact. Thankfully we won't ever have to find out now
>>64375679
>domestic
Oh, you mean the one no one gives a fuck about?
Come back when it's global, ameritard.
http://247365hatemachine.blogspot.ca/2016/01/citizen-lucasfact.html
>>64378471
Anyone have the edit of old luke as venom?
Is anyone surprised this movie will beat records? i'm certain the advertising budget was fucking enormous to ensure that it would beat these records.
>>64375679
It's going to make more money than the entire Prequels Trilogy. And that makes me so fucking happy.
Disney is going to remake PT trash. It's inevitable.
>‘Force Awakens’ Overtakes JW & ‘Titanic’; Set To Topple ‘Avatar’
what, no it is n-
>Domestic
Clickbaiting needs to end. Though this weekend's laughable box office will probably be excused by "no one watches movies on new years!"
>>64376963
Yield is exponentially higher though.
>>64381198
Domestic is far more important for the studios.
And you fags keep forgetting that SW makes billions every year with merchandise sales.
It's a far more profitable brand than Avatar ever was.
>>64375679
>rehash of ANH making this much money
cinema is dead
>>64375679
The prestige behind this shit franchise is beyond words so it's not really surprising to see it do so wellI still think JW and Mad Max were the best sequels this year
>>64376841
This. Women-friendly movies will always top the charts
>>64375679
the only thing this proves is that amerilards are fucking betas who pay for a mediocre piece of shit, if it wasnt for for amerikeks it would be a complete failure
Don't forget about the re-release on 2016's summer :^)
Avaturds on suicide watch
>B-but it will be a flop, you'll see!
>>64381318
>Domestic is far more important for the studios.
I thought this is the case but how come now studios are more focusing on world wide then? Many big blockbuster movies, etc are now being released it in theaters outside the USA first.
Is it they aren't confident in the domestic BO anymore or worldwide is more important now?
>>64376841
that can´t be right
>>64381318
Its yield versus volume. Higher yield means more money per sale, more sales means yield can be lower and still make more money total.
Since there's about 10 times as much potential volume in the international market, sacrificing that to make twice as much money on a tenth of the sales is fucking stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeVBrRB7QH8
mfw Avatar 2 is the first ever film to reach $6 billion
>>64375777
It probably will. It still hasn't opened in China.
>>64382182
Avaturd autists getting butthurt I see. Good.
>>64382182
Why isn't there a per capita for ticket sales? Money made doesn't take into account inflation
>>64381318
Sw has been around for 40 years and had 7 flicks and some spinoff cartoons. Avatar has literally had one flick.
>>64382936
AVATAR IS 100 TIMES THE ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT STAR WARS #7 IS
WHATS FUNNY IS STAR WARS 7 STILL WONT BEAT AVATARS WORLDWIDE GROSS :^)
DISNEY SHILLS ON SUICIDE WATCH LMAO
>>64382182
THIS PIC IS ENTIRELY ACCURATE
AVATAR RELEASED IN 2015 ON ALL THOSE NEW 3D SCREENS AT HIGHER TICKET PRICES WOULD HAVE MADE LIKE 5 BILLION WORLDWIDE, EVEN BEFORE ADJUSTING FOR 6 YEARS OF INFLATION
LITERALLY THE #1 MOVIE OF ALL TIME THAT CHANGED CINEMA FOREVER
THE MARYSUE AWAKENS BTFO FOR ALL TIME
>>64383076
Obviously not. everyone in the west is eating this shit but no one in Asia's gonna rewatch this shit to the tune that disney hopes.
Abatap would be on suicide watch if he wasn't already dead.
reminder:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp0gSFkd9Ho
>>64375776
he died
>>64376264
>he fucked up the sequels trying to make as much money as possible by catering to everyone
That's literally what TFA is, are you retarded?
>beats avatar domestically (basically irrelevant)
>doesn't even come close worldwide
Is this the best possible case scenario? Will this inspire Jim to BTFO of TFA domestically and BTFO of Avatar worldwide with Avatar 2?
>>64383604
Abatap isn't American why would he care about their box office. Avatar remains king internationally.
>>64378859
It's been 2 weeks, nearly 3 for a lot of overseas markets. The movie has already made around 70% of what it's ever going to make in its entire run. It's over. It's impossible to beat Avatar.
>Movie with a black lead set to be the highest grossing film of all time
Hurts to see a nigga do good huh?
>domestic
>matters
Let me know when it reach 2.7 bill globally
>>64384018
>caring about what happens outside America
>>64384194
>being a tardnigger
>>64384206
>being a Eurocuck/ricemonkey/AIDS patient/sandnigger/beaner/Canadian
>>64384018
Nothing outside of the US and Canada matters to anyone with a brain
>We're gonna beat Titanic. We can.
>>64376064
Thanks, Nate Silver
>>64384291
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films
>Highest-grossing films
>1) Avatar
>>64375679
K..KEEP ME POSTED
>>64383814
Scott Mendelson sait it best:
>I still think Avatar ($2.788 billion) will keep its global crown, if only because the film is showing legs closer to Return of the King than Titanic and Avatar (both of which made more over New Year’s week than Christmas) and another $1.443b is a lot to ask. That just shows how obscene Avatar‘s final gross turned out to be on a global scale, coming in (as of today) $1.119b more than any non-James Cameron competitor.
>Still, if losing the domestic crown is enough to piss James Cameron off to the point where he redoubles his efforts to make sure Avatar 2 makes us shit our pants with our mouths wide open, well, that’s good news for everyone.
Doubters will be BTFO again, just like in 1997 and in 2009. They will never learn.
>>64384311
:^)
>>64384400
>wikipedia
>>64384291
>domestic
>relevant
>2015
"Highest-grossing movie of all time domestically" in 2015 is about on the same tier as the "highest-grossing movie of all time in Pakistan" record.
>>64384440
>America
>Not singularly relevant
Hue
>>64380155
Avatar dropped 6.9% in it's second week.
It dropped 1.8% in it's second weekEND.
The Force Awakens dropped roughly 33% in both it's second weekend and week.
This had nothing to do with memory. It's documented numbers.
