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ITT We prove reddit letter media and the Mr.Plinkett prequel reviews wrong
The prequel trilogy is superior to the OT in every single way plebians have to understand this finally
This is not a troll thread
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yzTSuOkZeE

Is he the hero we deserve?
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>>64238148
Great argument OP
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>>64238472
>SaganFan1983
*tips*
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>>64238148

> I watched Star Wars in the wrong order and started with the Phantom Menace at age 5.

found the problem
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>>64238511
>>64238568
Prove me wrong
Prequels were loved by everyone at release
Mr.Redditlett brainwashed everyone into hating them
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I love how some people don't realize that Plinkett is not only a fictional character, but his opinions aren't even the true opinions of Mike Stoklasa.

The correspond to Mike's opinions to some extent, but they're greatly exaggerated. Mike doesn't hate the prequels nearly as much as the Plinkett character does.
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>>64238148
there's already a reddit general you retard
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>>64238732
OT and TFA love is literally reddit
PT is only loved by people with good taste
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>>64238610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxbPybTg08E

Yeah, right. You can tell RLM brainwashed all of them at once.
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>>64238472
>A literal autist as a hero.

no thanks
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>>64238801
PT is patrician tier taste
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>>64238472
his deviant art page is pure gold
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>>64238610

this is my favorite SW meme
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>>64238610

> Darth Vader before the prequels existed:
intimidating and scary, a powerful and dangerous creation that inspired awe and fear.

> Darth Vader after the prequels:
> a sand hating faggot who liked to talk about love. He killed kids for no reason and couldnt be bothered to rescue his own mom.
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>>64238965
Thats Kid Fisto
A well written and well acted Jedi Master member of the Jedi council way better than Luke Skywalker
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>>64238882
I can't help if plebs are too dumb to understand space politics and I can't cure their shit taste
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>>64239144
Also they can only nitpick on Jar Jar being annoying he is not good but he doesn't ruin the movie
/pt/bros 1-0 /ot/fags
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RLM is not all that. They need to get over themselves, I think.
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>>64239000
Who cares this is how Lucas visioned him
the ot is trash anyways
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I see Originalfag fat neckbeards have no arguements
From this day
Prequel trilogy >>>>> Original Trilogy>TFA
GLORIOUS VICTORY PREQUELBROS
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Mods sticky this thread pls
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The complexity of the prequels is akin to that of a game of chess were both players don't know how to play, I'll refrain from explaining the complexity of it because it is so complex
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>>64239016
sheev wiped the floor with this fistfucker
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>>64240241
Once again the brainless prequel hate is proven wrong they don't even bother with replying
Great understanding of movies and clearly superior taste we got
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Holiday Special > 2 > 3 > 1 > 6 > 4 >>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>> power gap >>>>> reddit = 7
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>>64240347
wtf is this ?
1=2=3>>>>>>>>>>>>>Holiday special>>>>>>>>>>>>6>>>>>4>>>>>>>>7>>>>>>>5
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>>64240347
This, but I would add the 2 ewok adventures in somewhere before 4, 5 or 6
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>>64238148
>acting like a fucking retard to discredit annoying prequlshits
fucking genius mi amigo
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>>64238148
>being literally this autistic
o hai Reddit
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The PT follows in the legacy of the great epic films like Ben Hur, the 10 commandments, and Spartacus, films that were truly aimed at the higher classes and others who could truly appreciate the arts. OT is just a collage of B-movie references with broad appeal. Gunslingers from Westerns, ninjas from kung fu movies, pilots from lowbrow rah-rah WWII movies. It's no wonder that OT is praised by people who have only a superficial knowledge of film language because it presents them only with references to their favorite lowbrow movies. PT is more challenging because it aspires to higher art and its references are taken more from the world of high culture and film art.

In summary, the difference between PT and OT is that PT are FILMS and the OT are MOVIES.
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>>64240472
>>64240507
Plebs with shit taste
>>>/r/eddit
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>>64239016
He had 0 lines, but hey, he smiled once.
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>>64240570
>PT are FILMS and the OT are MOVIES
>literally what, nigger?
RETARDATION LEVELS OFF THE CHARTS
REDDIT INTENSIFYING
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>>64240601
Thanks to Lucas's genious writing he doesn't need to say a single word
We already know everything we have to know
He is one of the greatest Jedi masters
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I like this prequel revisionism meme, but everyone's missing out on the most important point, which is that The Phantom Menace is objectively the best prequel and probably better than ROTJ.

Revenge of the Sith is also dogshit with an even worse script than EpII. Fight me.
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>>64240575
pls go back to reddit, we'll be okay without you, I promise
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>>64240657
Plinkett completely dismisses him because of his name. What a shallow thinker.
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>>64240570
Well said my brother
another great victory for us
>>64240641
>reddit
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TFA = /tv/

prequels = reddit

Any questions?
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>>64240669
>prequel revisionism meme
not a meme just superior taste
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>>64240669
I agree with everything outside of TPM > RotJ

Aa far as TPM being the best of the prequels that goes without saying I think. They're all equally shit script wise but it has podracing + Duel of the Fates so that puts it above the others
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Prequels are wrongfully underrated, true, but you know what else is vastly underrated? Shit. Yeah, that's right, time to bring back shit to where it belongs. What's with this shit hate maymay nowadays?
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>>64240723
How does that work when

/tv/ = literally reddit
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>>64240832
Wrong thread redditor
Originals = Shit
Prequels = Great
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>>64240866
Hmmm
I think you are onto something
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>>64240728
Vomit is an acquired taste, to be sure.
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>>64238148
Welcome Reddit! :-)
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>>64240924
stfu plinkettdrone
back to reddit!
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What I really don't get is this Jar Jar hate meme. When people who pretend to appreciate film watch Charlie Chaplin movies, they can't stop sucking his dick. Harold Lloyd? Innovator! Buster Keaton? Genius! But put that same slapstick in a star wars movie and all of a sudden they think it's crap. Fucking hypocrites.
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>>64241016
Plinkett has no other arguements only Jar Jar
The prequels or objectively great cinema
OT is only a plebby children flick
I can't help people getting rid of their shit taste or making them smarter to understand confusing space politics
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If R2-D2 can fly in the Clone Wars, why didn't he ever use that ability again in the Galactic Civil War?
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>>64238148
I'm game.

>plot didn't make sense
Yeah, it did. Plot to all the prequels: Palpatine is trying to play both sides to get power. It's not that complex but then again neither were the original films.

>characters can't be described
Jin: Wise but unorthodox, does things his own way. Kind of a hippy. Kind. Worldly.
Kenobi: Young conservative, believes in the old ways, plays by the rule. He's pretty much the exact opposite to Jin in this way. He's also sarcastic and pessimistic.
Anakin: Young and naive. Optimistic. Gives despite not having much. He wants more from life than his background can give him, he wants to get out there and see the world. If you include the deleted scene, he also has a bit of a temper.
Padme: She's more mature than her age, partially because she has so much responsibility weighing down on shoulders. She's really devoted to her people, though, really caring.

>cgi everything, no practical effects
http://makezine.com/2015/10/07/the-surprising-practical-effects-of-the-star-wars-prequels/
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/

Big fat wrong right there.

I'll do a couple more. Hold on.
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>>64238148
>This is not a troll thread
Why would you lie on the internet?
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>>64241114
>Plinkett has no other arguements only Jar Jar
I know this is just bait, but you're not even trying. One of the most noteworthy things about the Plinkett reviews is that they barely even mention Jar Jar.
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>>64241114
>"duhhh oh no this movie has politics! why cant there be more explosions :(((("
-this is what PT haters actually believe
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>>64241258
your point is like gibberish to me. You're as incoherent as your precious OT flicks.
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Who's trolling now? I don't know anymore
The truth and memes blur together like a drunken friday night, indistinguishable from oNE another
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>>64241016
Yeah, he's a cool and clever character that exposes Qui-Gon's more relaxed side and eases everybody else with his sillyness, him appearing in episode II after the Naboo adventure was heartwarming to say the least
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>>64241126
>bad dialogue
The dialogue is on par with the originals. I mean, they're space adventure films. The dialogue isn't going to be the best written stuff, you know?

>bad acting
Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, and Christopher Lee all give strong performances. Ian McDiarmid gives the best performance of any of the Star Wars films in the prequels. Everyone else is on par with the originals, except Jake Lloyd. Jake Lloyd was bad, but he's also only in the first one, and not even a huge part of it.

>forced romance
Anakin likes Padme, but Padme isn't into him at first. Then she spends time with him, and she starts to like him, but she's also a senator, so it'd probably be pretty bad for her career if it was revealed she seduced a Jedi (remember, she'd older than him). Then they spend more time together, and get closer to each other. We see all of this. Honestly, we see them together more than we see Han and Leia together (and certainly more than Finn and Rey, but that doesn't stop Finn from going romance on her and talking about when they first laid eyes on each other aka earlier that day).

What else is there?
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>>64241313
Why don't you just watch star trek then?
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>>64238472
KEK
What a retard.
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>>64241452
>Jake Lloyd was bad
not sure what flick you saw, buddy.
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God this place has turned into such a contrarian shithole.
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>>64241544
Then go back to Reddit
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Can we sticky this thread as our glorious victory over autistic neckbeard masses
Finally after many years people realized that the OT is garbage while the prequeltrilogy is Lucas's greatest masterpiece
Once for all superior taste with great understanding of patrician cinema won
Hopefuly every OTpleb will go exile into the dark corner of their basement and never come back
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>>64238148
>The prequel trilogy is superior to the OT in every single way plebians have to understand this finally

>false flagging

The Prequel Trilogy just isn't as bad as Plinkett said it was many of his criticisms were circumstantial or completely subjective
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>>64241452
>yoda has a lightsaber
Well, yeah, he's a Jedi.

>it's dumb that jedi have lightsabers because they're racially diverse
That's a problem with the series, not the prequels in general.

>yoda has to jump around when size doesn't matter because the force
The Force is how he's able to jump around. Hence: size doesn't matter. Or size matters not. Whatever.

>we never see kenobi and anakin be friends
The arena sequence where they fight together and are chums. The starfight in the third one where they fight together and are chums. We don't see their friendship grow, that happens in between the first and second film, and that's fine, because we see them as friends in the films.

>but they argue
So do friends sometimes.
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>>64241530
You know what: I might be biased on that because I didn't like him in Jingle All The Way and I took that into The Phantom Menace.

But like him or not, he wasn't in the films that much.
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I like the plinkett reviews. Points out a lot of funny/stupid things in the prequels

But people take that to mean that they are 0/10 films. They aren't.

It's also hilarious that when you ask someone what they didn't like they just regurgitate plinkett. Most of it is just nitpicky nonsense about things that don't actually matter to the movies.
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>>64241016
>Literally comparing Keaton and Lloyd to Jar Jar
/tv/ ladies and gentlemen.
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>>64241858
literally no difference
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>mfw this review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRpxyElkYLA
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Holy fuck every star wars fag need to be gassed
YOU OBSESSION WITH YOUR SHITTY CHILDREN MOVIES IS UNHEALTHY
WATCH OTHER MOVIES
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>>64240570

Oh fuck I'm dying, this is too good. Absolutely fucking hysterical.
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>>64241858
Do you even know who Keaton & Lloyd are, reddit (and I don't mean Michael Keaton & Christopher Lloyd)?
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>>64241783
>phantom menace has no clear protagonist
Qui-Gon Jinn. The Phantom Menace is the story of the last adventures of Qui-Gon Jinn as a means of introducing us to Kenobi, Padme, and Anakin. As for as protagonists go, Jin is a strong, compelling one, and his death comes as a surprise if you haven't seen the other films first.

>you can watch star wars without seeing the phantom menace
Yes, this is true. This isn't a bad thing, though.

>i like to kill prostitutes
Okay, but that's not really funny.

>pizza rolls pizza rolls meme meme meme
Also not funny.
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Who would you have cast as Anakin?
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>>64242039
prove him wrong plinkettshit
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>>64242151
Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.
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The prequels featured better Lightsaber fights, more emotional moments, intimidating villains, and a glimpse at the wider Star Wars universe.

There is literally nothing not to like, unless you're autistic and like the blandness of the OT.
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>>64242186
>putting a literal communist in Star Trek
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>>64242025
If you think these are art house films are for kids, you need to be arrested for child endangerment for showing them too much amazing cinema at once.
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>Hur PT is actually good and much better then the OT meme

Remember when this place actually got creative in making memes instead of just shitty contrarian for contrarian sake, >reddit. and blacked shit?
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>>64241114

>"Plinkett has no other arguements only Jar Jar"

This is the laziest bait ive seen in months.
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>>64242366
>bait
reddit awaits you
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>>64242366
Then prove him wrong or go back to Reddit why can't OT purists accept these compeling arguments?
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>>64241126
>>64241452
>>64241783
5 star posts.
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Still not a single OTpleb arguement
Glorious victory
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>reddit is mentioned 20 times in this thread
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>>64242670
thanks for the tally, reddit. This is not the thread for dubious arguments.
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>>64242342
back to >>>/reddit/
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>>64242538
Thank you. Thank you.
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>>64238472
>I don't think the mailman would want to take that greasy envelope

Go to 29 mins, this autist calls Plinkett out for the absurdity of putting pizza rolls in an envelope

He doesn't comprehend that there is a humor component to these videos at all.
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It's still shitposting, even if you're being ironic.
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>>64238472
>my face when not a SINGLE RLM fanboy KEK has EVER successfully refuted this review; you mess with the colo you get the claw
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>>64242997

There's one where he talks about how he hates X-Wings because his daddy took away his favorite spaceship, in 1999.

Which means if 1983 is his birth year he was 15-16 in 1999.
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>>64242670
This board has always been shit but we've finally hit the point where every other post is ">>/reddit" and I don't think there's a gas chamber big enough to put an end to this shitposting.
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>>64243061
i love you channing tatum guy. cheers and happy holidays.
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All these gentlemen prequel bros making thoughtful posts and we just get have a bunch of redditors making fools out of themselves

What a glorious thread indeed
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>>64243181
sorry you got triggered. I have a link to solve your problems, but it includes "reddit" so you'd hate it.
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>>64243244
You know what? YOU KNOW FUCKING WHAT?!

I did it. I went to reddit.

And do you know what they fucking said? Do you?

>"go back to /tv/"
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>>64243181

/tv/ before reddit was actually a good mix of shit posting funny memes and great discussions. Now it's probably 99% terrible shit posting and occasional good discussions as long as its not some currently popular.
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>>64243188
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>>64243324
that's reddit for you
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>>64243221
>posturing
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"It looks like a PS1 game" is a common criticism from /v/edditors but they just can't grasp the style constructed by George Lucas and his CGI team and their state of the art techniques
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>>64238472
Well, this could be interesting
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>mfw PT within the next 20 years will be considered Avant-garde masterpieces
>the NT will just be outed as a jewish scheme to sell cuckoldry to the masses

Star Wars, both the OT and PT are modern day Der Ring des Nibelungen
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>>64238472
Yes, but not the one we need
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>>64243919
this tbfrank
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>>64238610
should I just link the RLM reviews? You are in the defense here. prove your point.
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>>64243919
NT will slowly fade into oblivion
PT will be a laughing stock forever
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>>64244691
>link the RLM reviews
oh please do link to these creaky old pieces of shit. "what's wroooong with your faaaace?" please kill me.
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>>64244756
kill yourself
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>>64244921
muh storytelling muh characters muh sets

you have lost, mi compadre. the PT's world-building destroys your gay-ass empire strikes back dramatics and "characterization" soon, the PT and EU will rule and your ot an tfa will be the laughingstock of the galaxy.
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>>64245093
>meming this hard
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>>64245190
are you calling my arguments insincere, sir?
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>>64245093

This "prequels are awesome and only redditors say otherwise" meme doesn't work because everyone remembers 2 weeks ago and what /tv/ thought of them before TFA came out.
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>>64243766
>my past psychological mistakes

What did he mean by this?
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>>64245387
Your lies disgust me.
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>>64245387
are you still forcing the "/tv/ loved RLM before TFA" meme too?
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>>64245353
you have none
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>>64245465
Yes I do.
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>>64245498
where
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>>64245537
everywhere
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>>64245465
>>64245190
>bait
>reply
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>>64243766
Select video's, oh my!
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>>64245093
>worldbuilding
TPM was okay in this, but II and III were utter shit. Video-game tier cinematography.

But I understand this is liked by the generation that came of age watching those soulless garbage clone wars cartoons.
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>>64245353
>sir
M'lady
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>>64245093
>muh worldbuilding
back to /v/ with you you fucking worthless scum
please for gods sake consider suicide
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>>64238610
>being this underage
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>>64241452
>Christopher Lee
>strong performance
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>>64245839
it would be more appropriate to send him back to /tg/
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>>64245910
take it back, tarkinhomo
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You autists know you can dislike both the Prequels and TFA right? You don't have to pretend that something shitty is good just because people from another website don't like it.
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Jar Jar originally being the secret villain fits perfectly and explains all the issues in 2.
Lucas had a great story setup that he ultimately caved on. That said, he didn't bother to get help writing it, and the overabundance of CGI ruined any visual effect he was aiming for.
Had he stuck with it, we'd have a much more conflicted fanbase. Where some people would weigh the really interesting plot twist as "amazing" while others would react oppositely.
Imagine if the prequels sufficiently explained how alien species wielded the force in mysterious ways. How they could trick an entire galaxy from within (both the emperor and jarjar).

It would have spawned a better world, a better universe of lore that would have culminated in 7-9, where the "alien" of the prequels and the "human" of the original would combine as a grand space opera finale.

But instead we get New Hope 2: DeathStar 3.0: Acting Season Pass only $20 with preorder
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>>64246055
Ahmed Best has been contacted for Episode 8 (you didn't hear that from me).
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>>64238148
Lol this should be good
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>>64241016
Chaplin and Keaton were innovating a style of cinematic comedy. In the 1910s and 20s. At the beginning of film. The prequels came out 80+ years later. Slapstick such as it is evolved in those 3 intervening generations.
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>>64246357
>Slapstick such as it is evolved in those 3 intervening generations
This is what TFA cucks actually believe.
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>>64246157
If focus groups point towards profitability, don't think they wouldn't.

It is purely a money making venture now. I expect product placement in episode X, possible earlier in anthology.
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>>64246357
by removing all sincerity it evolved?
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>>64238801
liking bad movies makes you special? sure thing there champ
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>>64241016
Times change. Slapstick is out, it's just that simple, and if George Lucas wasn't so autistic and withdrawn, he would have realized this.

Same reason Red Tails didn't work; that stupid propagandist style is similarly out of vogue.
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>>64246553
>bad movies
lol keep trying JJ
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>>64246008
OP is an underage or baiting. The Prequels and TFA are both poor imitations of the OT. The Disney Star Wars is much worse not in terms of the actual picture, but the Marvel type "cinematic universe" that will be churned out for years to come.
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>>64246756
>OP is baiting.
no way
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flicks: The Force Awakens
Movie: Empire Strikes Back
Film: New Hope
Cinemá : Revenge of the Sith
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>>64247928
>film-movie distinction
get a load of this faggot
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i unironically love the prequels, it is poetry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs&feature=youtu.be
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>>64248025
don't make me say it, reddit.
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>>64248593
That you're self-important tryhard?
Yes, don't say that
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>>64248188
I liked the poetry as a kid, and arguably I still do. The problem is using the same visuals when the emotions are so different. That makes it just feel cheap.

Obi-Wan and Luke's, "No!" is perfect.
Having Blue Boba Fett is stupid.

Having Kamino be above the water while Cloud City was in the, well. That was great.
Trying to make the Anakin vs Dooku duel look like the Luke Vader one from Empire was fucking terrible, they have almost nothing in common. Dooku and Anakin don't know each other, they aren't family, they aren't testing each other, it's just shit.
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>>64248188
this is so fucking trash
lucas is a fucking hack
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>>64245387
/tv/ has always loved the prequels and the hate only emerged when redditors, in love with rlm, came in with their wrong opinions.
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>>64248716
I-I uh I...uh...reddit
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>>64248901
Hey there redditor scum!
How your second week here going ?
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>>64248985
Only a reddit would say "redditor," you sneaky reddit.
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>Autists on /tv/ are trying to teach RLM a lesson by pretending to like the prequels in spite of RLM liking TFA
You do realize Mike and Jay don't care about your opinions?
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>>64249186
>You do realize Mike and Jay don't care about your opinions?
You DO realize that we don't care about theirs either, right? amirite? /tv/ am I right? Hello?
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>>64238148
I remember when the mods stickied the prequel reviews on /tv/.
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This thread is an example of everything wrong with /tv/.

What the fuck happened within the past 4 years?
It's getting bad that i'm missing Bella/foot threads
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>>64249449
>>>/r/fakeoldfag
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>>64249186
/tv/ has always liked the prequels, reddit
nobody is trying to spite some retarded wannabe-movie critics
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>>64249533
check out this old meme from 2008 if you don't believe me
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>>64249569
>le meeemeee
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>>64245093
>muh storytelling muh characters muh sets
yeah who needs those in a movie

i'm genuinely laughing at how stupid you are
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>>64249650
>who needs those
indeed
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>>64249773
/tv/ was obsessed with redlettermedia and the prequel reviews as soon as they came out. there used to be 200 post threads every day about them. reddit and tumblr and whatever else jumped on the bandwagon much later.
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>>64250442
>/tv/ was obsessed with redlettermedia and the prequel reviews as soon as they came out
yes, this was before they became slaves to the whims of their (reddit) patreon supporters
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>>64250578
that doesn't negate /tv/'s history of being rlm fanboys
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>>64238472
Holy shit senpai I'm watching this now and laughing uncontrollably this guy is pure gold
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>>64250442
4chan didn't even exist when Plinkett reviews came out
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>>64238472
what an arrogant retarded little autist
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>>64238148
>This is not a troll thread
thou protest too much
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>>64250825
the ROTS review came out a year and half ago
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