It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it.
shut up Kreia you old hag, you aren't canon anymore
>>64202234
have you seen the new movie? they just steal from old canon and change the names around. a kreia clone could be in the next movie dumbass.
Kotor 2 was the best Star Wars ever was.
>this guy wrecked Lucas at his own universe
Apathy is death.
>>64201810
leave me alone janeway
>>64202546
Really?! I mean, gameplay wise sure, but story wise Kotor 1 was far superior in my opinion.
apppppaattthyyy issss deaaaaaathhh
>>64202234
Neither was Jacen Solo but they still rehashed him into Kylo
>>64201810
Fuck Avellone and his need to have avatars spout exactly what he thinks in games.
>Tfw no KOTOR 3
>>64202546
>>64203842
Did you play both recently? Kotor's 2 writing seemed way above kotor one's.
But I think the twist at the end of kotor 1 is more surprising than kotor 2's, so if you haven't played in a while, maybe that's what sticks in your memory more.
I LOVE PEACE.
I LOVE DEMOCRACY.
I will kill all she loves, all she protects, until her hands are drenched in blood.
>>64203842
When I was younger I liked kotor 1 story better, but upon growing up the theme of an exile redeeming themselves from a tortured past in kotor 2 I found more compelling. Also the whole wound in the force concept was cool and kreia was undoubtedly the best character in all of star wars
>>64201810
Is this game even worth playing. KOTOR is great, but I heard this one is shit.
>>64204186
you heard wrong cuck
>>64204186
KOTOR 2 is the Patrician choice.
In terms /tv/ would understand, KOTOR is a flick while KOTOR 2 is cinema
>>64204309
KOTOR is kinda like a standard Star Wars movie. KOTOR 2 is based around subverting and deconstructing everything from the typical Star Wars plot to rpg mechanics.
>>64201810
I loved everything about Kreia. The writing/voice acting/storyline is 10/10
>>64203955
I admit I haven't played them in years.
>>64204151
>>64204309
Perhaps that's the problem then. I won't pretend to be a sophisticated movie/story person. I like things to make sense within their own universe and can appreciate a complex story as long as I can follow it. But I'm not one for symbolism and motiefs and such in stories. I'm just not good at picking up on those and often not get it.
>>64201810
Is there anyone Lucas hates more than Kreia?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtByaOxiwE
>>64204565
The twist in kotor 1 was fantastic, and I loved some of the characters much more. But Kotor 2 had far, far better writing.
>>64204565
Well that was self honest
>>64203955
wtf do you mean twist, if you just talk to Kreia once in awhile she tells you everything from her being a Sith lord to you shutting yourself off from the force and forming force bonds.
Also the game really suffered from cut content, from the HK factory to the ending not fully making sense without the restored content mod.
>>64204186
KOTOR is basically a SW movie, Bioware really mastered that form (you can also see it, though less well executed, in Jade Empire). Possibly the most Star-warsy game out there.
KOTOR 2 basically takes a massive, steaming shit on everything SW represents, it hits hardest at the very core of the morality of the films. For reference, Lucas hated it so much that he actually took an active role through Lucasarts to fuck with its development, trashing Hanharr's development arc.
It's not done in a crass manner through, there is a great deal of room for interpretation of whether the character who serves as mentor, chorus and antagonist at times is correct in her assessment.
reminder that kreia got raped
>>64201810
it sounds good but how would it work in reality? you would have to be extra delusional to fall as hard as atris
>>64204697
I know who I am and I'm not ashamed of it. I know I'm not the smartest person on the planet, why pretend?
>>64202997
and yet its key to life.
>>64203903
what would it even be about?
That nigger who was a force-consuming monster was so fucking cool. The whole Malachor V plotline was really interesting.
>>64201810
Best character in the whole mythos. Lucas a shit.
>>64204869
Bao Dur was the most interesting. He was the most powerful character in KOTOR 2. Even though he was a mere human he created something as terrible as the mas shadow generator and it killed millions of jedi, mandalorian and destroyed a whole system and created nihilus, the exile, and all of the other wounds in the force.
>>64204862
>what would it even be about?
Here's what Avellone had planned:
>"The entire second game is littered with clues as to 'why didn't Revan destroy the infrastructure here? What was he trying to make sure was still intact? What did he/she see that no one else saw?' I thought that was giving a nice nod to 'wait a minute, Revan realises there's an even larger force at work here, and he's focusing his efforts on that and keeping the big picture in mind'. That was one thing - the idea that there was a larger, global conspiracy."
>That third game would cast you as "the Exile" and allow you to track Revan's path. "Whether you encounter him or not..." he pauses, wary of spoilers in case the game ever happens in the future. "The idea was that even before the 'modern day' Sith came into being in The Old Republic ... there were even more distant Sith Lords that were considered the true Sith, and the idea that they were still lurking out there in the galaxy waiting for a chance to strike, kind of like the Shadows in Babylon 5, I thought would be a cool finale for that Old Republic trilogy.
>"Part of the fun with designing them," he adds, "was if you have these incredibly powerful Force users and they have their whole hidden domain out in the distant reaches of the galaxy, what would that Sith empire really look like at the hands of these things?
>"If they could shape entire planets or galaxies or nebulas, and they had all these slave races at their disposal, how cool would that be, to go into the heart of darkness and you're the lone Jedi and/or new version of the Sith confronting these guys? What would that be like? I thought that would be pretty epic."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-31-fear-is-the-path-to-the-dark-side
Instead, we got SWTOR.
>>64203955
kotor is more straightforward, kotor 2 is convoluted and missing content makes it look deepr. handmaiden stuff was the best and you don't even get her as female. both jolee and juhani had as much characterization as guys in kotor 2.
>>64204958
>instead we got swtor
absolute disgust
>>64204960
no they didn't fuck off bioware shill
>>64204087
mommy issues never die.
>>64204151
wound in the force was too snowflake for me and all I wanted on most of my playthrough was to rejoin revan
>>64204869
Yeah, Nihilus was more of a force than a man. He was originially supposed to be the part of the Exile that he left behind on Malachor. Also, the mask he wore was supposed to be made from the skull of Revan.
>>64204953
Gook wasn't a mere human...
>>64204186
its not shit. its limited
>>64204309
more like KOTOR is the flash tv show while KOTOR 2 is euro arthouse
>>64201810
>there are autists who think this tripe is deep
>>64205051
He was a non force user.
>>64205118
He wasn't human
>>64204456
I hated that there was no pleasing her and she constantly got on my case, especially when I used "force persuade".she was like a jewish mom going "I just want you to excel but Im never going to be nice about it" but with a cool voice
DUDE MORAL GRAY AREAS LMAOuncanon
>>64204958
I will never forgive Lucas Arts for trashing that vision. We could have gotten Revan and the Exile facing Lovecraftian style eldrich abominations. Instead we got another OT ripoff, and a novel that jobbed the main characters to the new OC totallynotsidious villain.
>>64205131
dude hes a fucking zabrak are you daft
only thing in star wars that matters is non force user /force user
>>64205118
Did you play the game? Bao-Dur was a force sensitive, you could train him to be a Jedi.
>>64204456
>>64205156
>Kreia's voice
Yeah, it probably helps a lot that the VA is an actual theater actress, who's never done VA for any video game before or after KOTOR 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLvY1XpjfM
>>64204714
Jade Empire was epic. I messed up the lez 3 way but the story was amazing (felt like very classical chinese folktale)
>>64204800
those are not the indignities spoken of in the game
>>64204958
>"The idea was that even before the 'modern day' Sith came into being in The Old Republic ... there were even more distant Sith Lords that were considered the true Sith, and the idea that they were still lurking out there in the galaxy waiting for a chance to strike, kind of like the Shadows in Babylon 5, I thought would be a cool finale for that Old Republic trilogy.
>Instead, we got SWTOR.
From SWTOR wiki
>"In 3681 BBY, a reconstituted Sith Empire, the survivors of the Old Sith Empire that lost the Great Hyperspace War over a thousand years earlier, return to the larger galaxy under the leadership of an immortal Sith Emperor and invade the Galactic Republic, sparking the Great Galactic War."
Looks kinda similar to me.
Oh boy, it's time for the daily "/v/edditors are easily impressed" thread.
I guess this is the result of people that went into public education.
>>64205293
You clearly haven't played SWTOR, because the game and what it did with the characters and events of KOTOR 1 & 2 is a fucking crime against humanity.
Trust me, you're better off remaining ignorant.
>>64204869
I loved concept of mass shadow generator taking 2 armies and crashing them into dust using nothing but super gravity. nihilus was a boring faggot.I think they tried to do the whole "each bad guy represents an aspect of the protagonist" like they did with anakin
>>64205293
Yeah, they sort of continued the story (in a completely retarded way), but they were just the same kind of Sith as in every other game/movie/comic. Avellone's version sounded much more alien.
>So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause
Kreia was commenting on this very line, a fall is a quiet thing so how could the fall of the republic be met with a thunderous (explicitly drawing attention to how loud it is) applause? The answer is: it wasn't, because there was no fall. The republic was always an evil, authoritarian theocracy pretending to be a democracy, it was only the methods that changed when the emperor came along. What sort of peaceful democracy orders the creation of an army during a period of peace?
Lucas was blatantly aware of all the things Avellone uses to "debunk" the Star Wars universe, which is why Kreia isn't being subversive, she's just explaining how the universe works.
We will never have a star wars film with the political and moral depth of the prequels ever again. Like America under George Bush, Star Wars was better under George Lucas.
>>64204953
he was not even a human also he was the exiles bitch boy. he was boring as fuck and I did not like his tinkering but I did love his loyalty
Kreia was a fan of Nietzsche , thats for damn sure
>>64205344
>You clearly haven't played SWTOR
True, I haven't. But the plot still looks similar to me to what was proposed for Kotor 3. Never claimed they did it right or anything.
>>64204958
yeah but thats shit. they did that with the book and the mmo, actually adding in true sith (or whatever) ruins everything and the scale gets to big for anything to be relevant.
>>64205028
>no they didn't fuck off bioware shill
did you talk to them? in what way were the kotor 2 characters deeper?
>>64205394
>What sort of peaceful democracy orders the creation of an army during a period of peace?
to be honest family an army is what you use to keep the peace
>>64205443
I admit it does look similar, but the execution is completely different from whatever Avellone might have cooked up in that crazy head of his.
>>64205486
Nah, it's not like that at all. Let's not pretend that a single-player game made by Obsidian, written by Avellone and the other writers of the studio, would be as shitty as a Bioware-made MMO.
>>64204579
>10 minutes of pretentious expositional dialogue
Holy fuck, was KotOR II really that bad?
The KOTOR games seem neat but also a pain in the ass to install mods to get them properly working. Much easier to just say they suck and aren't canon desu
>>64205443
In Obsidian's version of Kotor 3 Revan and the Exile fight alone against the true Sith at the heart of their dark empire. In Bioware's version 300 years pass and the Sith just attack again, and another Republic/Sith war happens. Also, I doubt Obsidian would have come up with such a shitty villain as Vitiate.
KOTOR II>>>the movies
Fite me
>Go to Casino
>Ask where the Pazaak tables are
>Ask me what is Pazaak
>Call them Cath Hound Bith cock suckers
>Demand to play Pazaak and scream so loud my voice breaks
>They point to the Blackjack table
>ALRIGHT!
>Get to table
>Quicksave out loud
>start playing
>Get to 20 my first try
>Dealer beats me with 21
>What the fuck?!
>Their rules of pazaak are fucken different
>quickload out loud
>It's not working
>wtf
>music in my head starts playing again
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gz2Q8lsNM4
>Pizaak is love, pazaak is life
>pull out my blaster
>Casino didn'st stand a chance
>quicksave out loud...
>>64205046
>the mask he wore was supposed to be made from the skull of Revan
now thats true love. I did wonder why you could keep the mask.
>>64205118
top fucking kek, is this why you faggots know nothing about backstory? you half assed your gameplay. he was an Ithorian and like atton,disciple and handmaiden you can train him to be a jedi,dark jedi or a sith.
>>64205541
it's a game made to impress teenagers
the restored content mod for kotor 2 makes the game worse desu
people who dig through game files and speculate need to learn that some stuff is cut because it's a bad idea, not because there's not enough time to implement it
>>64205613
>Ithorian
Zabrak
>>64205210
At the time of malachor he wasn't.
>>64205563
one was the plot for a single player game
the other is the plot for a MMO
if you can't understand how they had to be different you are retarded
>>64205613
Well, they scrapped that idea when they decided to put more focus on Revan and elevate him from Mary Sure to God status.
>>64205613
>Ithorian
What?
No, he was a Zabrak.
>>64205641
Epic bait for the win xD.
The only bad part of TSLRCM is the droid planet, which is optional.
>>64205662
I understand why they're different. That doesn't mean the MMO version isn't shit.
>>64205385
I hated the shadows in b5. it was too much like cartoon pure evil and when vorlon's turned it into angels vs demons I liked it even less.
>>64202234
The idea of "canon" in Star Wars is silly, anyway.
The only thing that matters now are the movies. Disney may label the new EU as "canon", but Ahsoka Tano and Han's black ex-wife are never going to show up in the films, so they're just as canon as Kreia or Revan.
>>64205563
They go to the mountain or mountain comes to them, still similar to me. But I'm not saying swtor is a good game or anything or that they stories awesome, like I said, never played it. Still it looks to me they used the early ideas for Kotor 3 as a base for the story of swtor, just sayin'.
>>64205654
What? He was always Force sensitive. He just hadn't been trained until he was an adult, like Luke.
>>64202546
Yeah Kotor1+2 is peak star wars.
>>64205696
all of the new combat sequences absolutely cripple the pacing of the game
there's also dumb shit like the game with stop, load up a new (very bad looking) module where a character will speak a single line of dialogue, stop, and then put you back where you were
it's the dumbest shit
>>64204714
>Lucas hated it so much that he actually took an active role through Lucasarts to fuck with its development, trashing Hanharr's development arc.
You're making that up. The development was fucked because Lucasarts demanded a Christmas release and Obsidian had only 9 months to make a game. George Lucas probably doesn't even know or care that the game exists
>>64205739
Nah, m8. I wanted to see their empire. All those worlds ruled in seclusion by the dark side for over 1000 years would have been something crazy.
>till it looks to me they used the early ideas for Kotor 3 as a base for the story of swtor, just sayin'.
If you knew how they retconned and butchered everything from the first two games you wouldn't say that.
Does anyone have atorrent link for the new re-release of KOTOR2 that came out earlier this year? All I can find on piratebay is the old versions from 2014 and prior.
>>64205394
wut? apathy fits that better even than it was not apathy, they were all afraid or corrupt. it was not a democracy since centralized world got most say and money talked like crazy. if republic had the army before they could stopped raiders from robbing trade federation thus taking away the excuse.
>What sort of peaceful democracy orders the creation of an army during a period of peace?
they did not.
>We will never have a star wars film with the political and moral depth of the prequels ever again. Like America under George Bush, Star Wars was better under George Lucas.
I should have read till the end before I started replying
>>64205830
Just buy it faget, it's on sale right now
>>64204714
>For reference, Lucas hated it so much that he actually took an active role through Lucasarts to fuck with its development, trashing Hanharr's development arc.
No he didn't, stop repeating this dumbass urban myth.
The development got fucked over because Lucasarts pressured Obsidian to release the game early.
>YOUR CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES
>ONLY BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING GOOD DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE
>EVEN FROM GOOD ACTIONS BAD CAN BE BORN
>all the light side choices end up having the best ending while the dark side is just bad ending all around
10/10 STORY OF OUR GENERATION
SO DEEP, CHANGED MY LIFE
>>64205443
SWTOR is full of mmo shit. (since it is an mmo, thus even mods for kotor 1 are better)
>>64205720
>and when vorlon's turned it into angels vs demons I liked it even less
True, all those references where kinda annoying but I still liked the idea of stability through order (vorlon's) against progress through (violent) change (shadows).
>>64205867
>if republic had the army before they could stopped raiders from robbing trade federation thus taking away the excuse
sounds an awful lot like imperialism to me
>>64205830
Does this version have widescreen support?
>>64205891
>>64205801
Good luck trying to convince Obsidian fanboys that the universe isn't out to stop them because is jealous of their superior tastes and intellect.
>>64205534
>Let's not pretend that a single-player game made by Obsidian, written by Avellone and the other writers of the studio, would be as shitty as a Bioware-made MMO.
when reading that 3ed game stuff all Im seeing is mass effect in star wars skin.
>>64205889I have no money in my steam wallet and I don't have a bank account famicomI own a physical copy of the original xbox version too so I've already paid for the game oncei'm not underage
>>64205822
Why did lucasarts even allow EA to make SWTOR???
Disney has said it wants to make KOTOR 3 (disregarding SWTOR) and a sequels/remakes to a bunch of the older star wars games.
Look at battlefront FFS. Disney let EA continue with battlefront when they bought lucas, EA releases Battlefield: Star Wars Edition with much much less features than Battlefront 2
>>64205544
>The KOTOR games seem neat but also a pain in the ass to install mods to get them properly working
you must be doing it wrong. all it takes i one click, most problems come from trying to run it on any windows that is not xp
>>64202288
The old EU before Disney's buyout is now just a open bar for shit directors to steal ideas from. All that hard work for nothing!
>>64205981
I got you covered bruh.
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5048430
>>64205563
Vitiate is just sheev taken to maximum
>>64205987
Disney signed a contract with EA, only they can make Star Wars games now. There is no hope.
>>64204953
too bad his voice acting was fucking AWFUL
>>64205981
>not underage
>doesn't have spare money and a bank account
Something's wrong here
>>64203955
kotor 2 is *almost* fancfiction tier
>deconstructing a black and white morality universe
>the protaganist is a force hole
>>64206039
Vitiate is SidiousxNihilus with the dials up to 11. It's fanfiction tier.
>>64205597
kek. it took me too fucking long to figure out it was blackjack. also with mods that let you kill anyone, you could prob play that out
>>64205643
>>64205692
yeah I fixed it. I fucked up in my rage but to be angry is to be human
>>64205541
that was the worst part since you cant skip the cutscenes like that. the best you can do is tell them to go fuck themselves and cut it as short as possible. you could kill them all on other world but then it would be kreia standing there
>KOTOR 2's antagonist was literally a force-zombie that was resurrected from his hatred alone
Literally tumblr 2edgy4me shit. Fuck that piece of shit game and fuck Hackellone.
>>64206017
>>64202288
they even copied off of Sion's eye
>>64205696
>TSLRCM is the droid planet, which is optional
which one did you play? they removed the planet, no its on telos (in some underground)
>>64206070
>protagonist is a force hole
That's your standard Avellone gimmick.
>Kotor 2 is a force parasite
>P:T is a life parasite
>Mask of the Betrayer is a soul parasite
>PoE is a soule parasite 2.0
>>64204958
>wary of spoilers in case the game eve
They knew!
>>64205920
it takes a very skilled team not to make it all sound like bunch of faggotry and I just don't have that much faith in kotor handlers
>>64205958
Yes.
>KotOR II thread on /tv/
>a million replies in 20 minutes
Every fucking time. How?
>>64206265
Avellone didn't write PoE tho.
>>64205654
he was.
>>64206050
>no hope
>Amy Hennig working with Visceral on a yet to announce Star Wars game
>>64206265
MotB was written primarily by George Ziets.
>>64206312
It's better than the movies
>>64205173
>eldrich abominations
a bit redundant, m8
>>64204869
>YFW those events are Canon
I'm feeling a reveal that Snoke is from Old Republic times and Kylo designed his clothing after Revan considering he designed his lightsaber after designs from that era.
>>64205773
that was the worst part of Brotherhood of Shadow mod
>>64206312
because its an extremely well written game
>>64206235
Do you mean Sion? He was a shit tier mini boss.
>>64206360
If it's a RPG trilogy, i can get behind it, but if it's with them, it'll probably be the 1313 game repurposed for the new canon
>>64206312
where the fuck else are we supposed to talk about video games?
>>64205830
just patch the old one
>>64206360
>EA
still no hope.
Tbh senpai I think they're gonna pull another Revan with Rey
>>64206459
how? can I download the patch as a standalone installer from somewhere?
>>64206389
>>64206360
20 bucks says it's gonna be a shooter.
>>64206502
What did he mean by this?
>>64205910
>>all the light side choices end up having the best ending while the dark side is just bad ending all around
since all of it is told in text at the last second, it does not even matter. I even once glitched and got non of the text (dark or light) but you are going to remember that beggar on nar shaddaa
>>64206502
They fucked up the Visual Dictionary so badly.
It's nothing like the pre-Disney books that were so awesome.
>>64206389
Stop.
The only reason why they reference Malachor is because it gets reference in one of the episodes of the Clone Wars cartoon. That's all there is to it.
They never go into any detail about it.
>>64206544
The "Great Scourge of Malachor" is not mentioned in the cartoon actually, the planet is mentioned though.
>>64206538
>you are going to remember the maipulative cutscene made to point out something obvious
no shit
>>64205939
Sieg mein Kaiser Reinhard
>Do you wish to feel the teachings born of the Mandalorian Wars, of all wars, of all tragedies that scream across the galaxy? Let me show you, you, who have forever seen the galaxy through the Force. See it through the eyes of the Exile.
Best VA ever.
>>64206312
Kotor is better than all star wars movies and shows
>>64206017
Revan and Kylo Ren have absolutely nothing in common despite a very vague similarity in appearance
>>64206060
it was always so soft, like he was high all the time
>>64206663
>they got a classically trained old Shakespearean actress to voice a character in this dumb star wars game
>she read her lines like a champ and killed it
what a professional
>>64206060
>MUH GENERAL
i hated that nigger, his voice irritated me so much yet they force him upon you for the entirety of the surface of telos/jedi school
>>64206414
>well written
I like how people always say Obsidian has great writing, but I never see any examples.
>>64206737
it was supposed to parallel his extremely dark and twisted demeanor. He is filled with anger and hate but his voice is very soft and soothing.
>>64205744
>>64206352
Don't be too sure. The point of the Exile is her ability to form Force bonds which was why she was such a quick learner and taught others naturally. Do you think being able to make all your party members into Jedi (except Hanharr) is a coincidence. This was also why the Jedi Masters feared he so much.
>>64206728
Rey has Revan's character, Kylo has his appearance.
>>64206265
also
>Planescape: Torment
>Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
>>64205251
What do you think gives non Video game VA the edge over Video Game VA?
>>64206800
THEY WERE MADE FOR EACH OTHER
>>64202713
So much Obsidian basically got banned from making KOTOR3.
>>64206786
search youtube for any number of kreia dialogue compilations you lazy faggot
>>64206544
the whole mandalorian invasion is on the walls during sidious vs maul
>>64206842
>What do you think gives non Video game VA the edge over Video Game VA?
That they can easily adapt to any required role and sound quite different from their usual self.
Whereas the usual VAs in gaming tend to sound the same all the time.
Take Simon Templeman. Keep in mind that I love the guy, because he voiced Kain in LoK series, but holy fuck, he sounds like Kain in every single game he's been.
Kreia is literally Ulysses
>>64206542
>TFW I still have the tattered old Phantom Menace Incredible Cross-Sections book on a shelf at my parent shouse
>>64206876
How about an example to back your claim?
You want good writing in video games? Look at any of these
http://lostodyssey.wikia.com/wiki/A_Thousand_Years_of_Dreams/Dream_Trigger_Locations
>>64206970
No, Ulysses is just a retard.
>inb4 you didn't get him!
>>64206786
I always post this one, most people don't get it
Also Obsidian does always their villains very well
>Bioware
>villain is some baldie with no jaw
>first appearance is him screaming on his troops, then blowing up a planet in a temper tantrum
>Obsidian
>villain has scars everywhere
>first appeareance is him meditating in a ship with absolutely nothing else inside
>then in a flashback he's seen beating up kreia with his bare fists without saying a single thing nor using his saber
>>64206493
yes. https://kat.cr/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii-the-sith-lords-t1360402.html#comment read the comments
>>64206970
No, Kreia is Vergere.
>>64206589
but even more than that you will remember when you made 2 guys from black sun give you all ther stuff and jump into the pit.
>>64201810
it's amazing how writing in star wars films can't come close to some video game
>>64206995
>What do you wish to hear? That I once believed in the code of the Jedi? That I felt the call of the Sith, that perhaps, once, I held the galaxy by its throat? That for every good deed I did, I brought equal harm upon the galaxy? That perhaps what the greatest of the Sith Lords knew of evil, they learned from me? What would it matter now? There is only so much comfort in knowing such things, and it is not who I am now.
>Take the greatest Jedi Knight, strip away the Force, and what remains? They rely on it, depend on it, more than they know. Watch as one tries to hold a blaster, as they try to hold a lightsaber, and you will see nothing more than a woman – or a man. A child.
>It (the Force) is like a cloud, a mist that drifts from living creature to creature, set in motion by currents and eddies. It is the eye of the storm, the passions of all living things turned into energy, into a chorus. It is the rising swell at the end of life, the promise of new territories and new blood, the call of new mysteries in the dark.
>It (the absence of the Force) is knowing what you want to say and never finding the words. It is a chorus, replaced with silence. Hearing teachings without meaning. It is like having a beloved pupil to whom you have shared everything, sacrificed everything, and then having them turn from you... and forget all you were.
You could also search for how HK-47 describes the best way to fight Jedi. Very intersting.
>>64206502
yes good point thanks anonymous
>>64206017
>2 evil guys with masks
>TOTAL RIP OFF JJ IS A HACK ERERERG
Then i guess Revan is a ripoff from Vader?
>>64207016
but Malak was supposed to be pathetic
>>64206788
it never changes, the whole world could be falling down and he would still have that soft voice, even when opend to the dark side he talks the same. even visas has some growth
>>64207164
>Visas
>It is good that you have never wondered what lay beneath her robes, if her alabaster skin was as white and unblemished as her face. Or if perhaps she bore the scars of slavery... and if that would stir you more. Perhaps her deferent tone would change once you held her by the throat, and showed her how far a Jedi can fall.
>>64206797
most of them tell you how they could kind of sense shit before. half of them have jedi lineages or atton type training
>>64207126
If you write the main antagonist to sound pathetic (not a subordinate like in TFA, but the main villain), you've done a pretty shitty job at giving him a convincing personality. This is akin to a children cartoon where the villain is dumb and ugly because the writers know the kids don't care about character complexity
>>64206842
game/show VAs are a small group so they all have signature voice as not to end up in obscurity(+ its less work)
>>64207282
Malak's characters was always that he was second to Revan and not as good as him.
Every action he made in the game was to show that, you don't have to like it but implying he is a badly written character because he doesn't just sit around regurgitating some pseudo philosphical mumbo jumbo only shows your childish understanding of storytelling.
Please, kill yourself.
>>64206876
dousage , it sounds good when taken over 50 hours of gameplay but in one go its not.
>>64206800
Kylo is a piss poor rip off of Jacen too.
>>64207430
>the devs' intention was to make him an unlikable shitty character with uninspired writing
What a success!
>>64206803
he already mentions PT you cunt
>>64207126
no he was not
>There's people right now who prefer KOTOR 1 over KOTOR 2.
>>64207638
Which one is harder?
KOTOR2 with full restored content is better than KOTOR.
What i didn't like is that the game's universe would twist so that Kreia was always right, though she pretty much was the lead writer's self insert.
>>64207638
time to go into an autistic fit obsidiot
>>64207715
Just replayed both, I guess KOTOR 1 is harder.
>>64207541
>le every bad guy must be a badass because I am underaged!
kill yourself
KOTOR 1 is a pain in the ass to play in 16:9 and it crashes every 20 minutes for me
I'm considering just skipping to KOTOR 2 because it got a patch with widescreen and achievements a few months ago and the official compatibility with the Restored Content mod
>>64207755
Shut up, Bioware shill
>>64207755
lol this so much
>>64207804
I had a lot of problems with KOTOR 1, movies didn't work in W7 x64.
>>64207803
I am conjuring up in your mind the "How to argue on /v/" picture
Is this the /v/eddit thread?
>>64207747
she's not always right, the only one time when she's objectively right is when you give the money to that one guy who asks for it
other than that she's basically a liar and we have no idea when she's telling the truth or bullshitting
>>64207869
They worked for the steam version with me, but I think there was something to fix first
>>64207715
both have difficulty modes so they are both easy. Kotor 1 levels max out at 30 while KOTOR 2 goes up to 50 so I guess Kotor 1 is harder.
>>64207108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus
I love HK-47
>>64207948
Anyways, KOTOR 2 worked like a charm with the new patch.
>>64207815
>people happily discussing both games
>obsidiot feels the need to start a vs argument because he is a pretentious retard that feels the need to feel superior to others
go be autistic on /v/ manchild
>>64207880
I guess you are the only one allowe to used greentext then, retard
>>64207911
>If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single idea.
>To believe in an ideal, is to be willing to betray it. It is something no Sith or Jedi has ever truly learned.
She makes some good points once in a while, but you're right that she's a liar, and that's exactly what she wants the Exile to think.
Only an absolute prequel enabling simpleton could prefer Kotor over Kotor 2. Kotor 2 is probably just too well written for you to understand.
>>64207638
>>64207755
>>64207815
>>64207984
Go back to /v/eddit
>>64207984
>Happily
I guess you didn't read the thread.
>>64208004
I'm glad you don't use it anymore
>>64207230
It's time.
Cast the KotOR2 movie.
>>64202546
the non Jedi TOR storylines were legit good.
>>64205597
>play blackjack
>no side-deck with +-1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and +1T cards
>no side-deck at all
>>64208130
Sion is Brendan Fraser, they both got their shit fucked up
Mass Effect universe > Star Wars
>>64208182
Soldier was fine.
Imp Agent was good.
Scoundrel was complete shit.
Bounty Hunter was mediocre.
Just reported you to hiro segwaylord/redditwood
Enjoy your lynching
>>64207007
I still don't get what the fuck was he on about.
MANDALORE IS CANDEROUS
>>64208130
Emma Stone as Mira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNyif8iURI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ymc_5dake0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr81SliHytA
>>64208292
wow, nigger. Spoiler tags next time!
>>64208314
>>64208130
Ron Perlman as Canderous, as if there was any other choice.
>>64203842
Opposite for me
>Gameplay, Production Value, Engine Stability, Design Quality: KotOR 1
>Story, RPG Element, Characters: KotOR 2
Not /v/, my apologies, but I am 100% in the minority on this issue and have been drinking with my wife's son.
>>64208202
Being a trooper in Coruscant, dealing with gangsters is comfy as fuck.
Half-way through autism. Can't decide on the rest.
>>64208654
bretty good. Even tho Exile is female in swtor.
>>64208750
>swtor
Fuck that. Exile was a man when I played it.
>>64208130
>>64208130
>Director
Guillermo del Toro
>Exile
Emily Blunt or Christian Bale
>Kreia
Helen Mirren
>Atton
Tom Hiddleston
>Handmaiden
Amber Heard
>Visas
Kelly Hu
>Bao-Dur
Roger Guenveur Smith
>Mira
Emma Watson
>Canderous
Ron Perlman
>Sion
Gerard Butler
>Nihilus
Any big dude with his costume on and voice over later would do
>Atris
January Jones
>>64208824
>>64208824
this image triggers me
Revan would never use the retarded inverted lightstaber style
>>64208827
>>Mira
>Emma Watson
What the fuck dude.
>>64208750
>>64208819
Exile was canon female before swtor tbf
>>64208891
I'm not familiar with many 19-24 year old actresses tbqh
>>64206035
what format is that
>>64208895
>canon
>>64208824
I wouldn't mind a Kreia-style wise woman character in the new trilogy to be honest family
>>64206988
I have all of the visual dictionaries and the complete incredible cross-sections on a shelf 4 feet away from me.
>>64208895
its not like they did anything good with it. jesus looking exile is the one true exile. you can turn revan female if you want.
>>64209304
>jesus looking exile is the one true exile
It makes me happy that everyone agrees on this.
>>64202288
Acting like luke aint going to be kriea. One of his students fell to the darkside already. And will redeem himself sound familar?
>>64208182
What about the Jedi ones?
LUKE WILL BE KREIA
SCREENCAPOLYAMOROUS THIS POST
>>64209449
Sith Warrior was fine.
Jedi Knight was bad.
Jedi consular was complete shit.
Sith inquisitor was complete shit.
>>64208867
Holl UP holll Up
We wah kings doe
He holdin it cause he a BROTHA BUT THEY CHANGES HIM CAUS DA INDUSTRY DONT FLEEK WITH BROTHAS MAKSIN THEM LIKE JEDI AND SHI
>>64209304
>>64209360
Was there ever any doubt?
>>64208130
Fuck, this one was hard, and, admittedly, I have shit tastes. The only one I'm sold on is the director. The rest can be completely scraped. This would have to be a cast of unknowns, in my opinion.
Also, if you want a male Exile, then Michael Fassbender.
Halfway done
i just want a boba fett film by guy richie
>>64208827
Pretty good list, dude
>>64209785
>visas
>man
Rate my shitty cast.
>>64208399
This is how it is with every sequel made by Obsidian, and how it always will be
>>64209917
Just put a bag over his head. It don't matter non
>>64208654
Atton is Steve from Blues Clues
I wish all the ep7 marketing would have just been some kind of red herring.
I would have shit myself if after the new death star blows up the movie cuts to some ice planet and we get a closeup of a frozen revan mask.
Then the movie ends with the quote from the trailer:
>There's been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark side, and the Light.
>>64209975
>mark strong
