Who's the most powerful jedi ever?
>>64062816
Yoda obviously
/thread
CIA
>>64062816
Me!!!! I'M SO INTUNED WITH THE DARK SIDE! I LOOK UP TO VADER EVEN THO IM BETTER THAN HIM!!! DAD WOULDNT LET ME BE HARDCORE SO I KILLED HIMTHAT'S HOW DARK I'VE BECOME.
>>64062816
Revan, of course.
Rey Skywalker
>>64062843
What has that little shit ever done that was impressive?
>>64062843
except sheev and dookie beat him
Plageuis could keep people from dying. He could only be killed in his sleep
Sheev is in par with yoda and they are more powerful than Luke Skywalker then Darth Vader, followed by count dooku
>>64062994
>>64062984
OP asked for Jedi, not Sith.
I mean, at least Dooku was a Jedi, so he can count, but Sheev never was, nor Plagueis.
>>64062816
Cannonniccally Luke is
Obi Wan with High Ground >>>>> POWER GAP >>>>>> Yoda > Mace > Anakin > Obi-Wan
>>64063103
Anakin was more powerful in his prime than Yoda was.
darth icky
Qui Gon
Next thread
Didn't Obi-Wan manage to beat "The chosen one" Anakin when he was at his strongest?
>>64062816
You remember that Jedi that got shanked 1st by Sheev when Mace Dindu came to get him? From my point of view he is the best.
>>64062877
Revan isnt canon anymore :^)
>>64062816
Wasn't Windu the strongest fighting jedi and that's why he was second in command while Yoda was at top because he was more connected with the force mumbo jumbo. I mean the guy was wrecking Sheev until Anakin came and cut his hand.
Mace Windu and Finn
How can the others even compete?
I have a hard on for ewanNo homo
>>64062877
Only correct answer.
>>64063132
>arguing with a meme post
The autism is real
Yoda was. Anakin could have surpassed him, but he fucked up.
>>64063173
he wasn't a Jedi then but Anakin was more of an impressive jack-of-all trades Jedi, whereas Obi-Wan was simply the greatest defensive lightsaber user in the lore. Defence beats offense.
>>64063221
>>64063221
Anakin never did anything impressive except kill sand people and kids.
>>64063132
According to Lucas, Anakin would have eventually grown to be like twice as powerful as Sheev or Yoda, which is ridiculous, but he got crippled by Obi-wan, which nerfed him.
>>64063188
You notice how the movie straight up ripped off the old republic with star maps and star energy siphoning? Even with attire similarity between revan and kylo ren. I swear one of the writers has played that game.
>>64062843
Yoda wasn't a Jedi
>my fav is Obi Wan
>Windu best swordsman
>Luke best overall
It's anakin, he is the most powerful Jedi, probably the most powerful force user that the films display
Literally pulled a Star Destroyer down from the armosphere alone.
>>64063292
Oh yea i know, honestly that was more of an intentional shitpost more than anything. Although i miss the old canon and a lot of good things from it there was just way too much shitty content. I miss revan :'(
>>64063268
I know, but according to Lucas he had the potential to be the best Jedi ever. After RotJ, Luke is supposed to be the one to do it, but looks like Disney won't let him.
>>64063240
Obi-Wan is basically pre-Madrid Jose Mourinho.
>>64063316
well thats just cannon bubby.
>>64062877
I wish they'd make a movie with Revan. Keanu can be the actor.
>>64063372
Except size doesn't matter with the force
>>64063372
Literally not canon.
>>64063292
>. I swear one of the writers has played that game.
I'm pretty sure that every Star Wars fan under the age of 40 has played KOTOR.
>>64063372
worst gary sue and worst sw video game in terms of lore.
just cuck my shit up.
>>64063372
Also a shit game
>>64063287
This. If it wasn't for the suit he would've slaughtered Sheev like a youngling tbqh
>>64063384
no specification matey
>>64063387
#rekd epic win
>>64062816
dat boi
>>64063380
wish i knew what that means, for real
>>64062902
Kenobi*
>>64062816
EP III Obi = best Obi.
Sheev McQueen
The man had unlimited power
>>64063417
>gary sue
What the fuck? It's always been Mary Sue for men and woman. Superman get's called a Mary Sue all the time. You remind me of those faggots who use trolling as a description for someone who has a different opinion to them.
>>64062816
>Windu gets smacked around and killed like a bitch
>Obi Wan defeats Anakin
>Obi Wan gets defeated by Vader
>Vader gets defeated by Luke
>Luke now has 30 years to become OP
Luke?
>>64063292
>JJ likes EU just like me! I know he does
kek
>>64062845
>Darth Bane?
Mace windu
He would have killed sheeve if anakin didn't intervene.
>>64063772
tfw Darth Bane is a real character
>>64062816
Luke.
Lucas said you have to be at Windu's or Yoda's level to face Sidious and have a chance at winning. Anakin as Darth Vader by the time of RoTJ states he's at his most powerful and is > Dooku before that. Luke overpowered and beat Vader.
So it goes:
Potential wise: Luke = Anakin > Rey > Ren > Leia > Yoda/Windu > power gap > Obi-Wan > Jinn.
Showings wise: Windu > Yoda > Luke > Anakin > Obi-Wan > Jinn.
>>64063843
He's also a big guy.
Before Disney retconned everything, Luke was canonically the strongest ever, followed by Sheev.
>>64063864
For you
Darth kill
>>64063891
Yeah but you forgot about Darth Caedus aka Non-Shitty Original Pre-Disney Ren and Darth Revan.
sheev for sure
>Sheev
Is this a meme? What made people just start calling Palpatine by his first name?
>>64063103
I kek'd the hardest
>>64063976
spotted the redditor
>>64063864
>Luke overpowered and beat Vader.
Luke beat a nerfed Vader, remember him being almost all robot?
>>64063692
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue
here u go bubby. references a published writing book in 08.
>>64063976
The name Sheev was "revealed" in some book last year and people thought it was funny.
>>64063372
>he also casually collected all 7 dragon balls in an afternoon
>>64063385
>Plot twist for episode 8 is that Rey is Reven
>>64062816
he wasn't the strongest, fastest or wisest, he was just overall the most balanced.
And a jack of all trades master of none still beats 1 master.
>>64064054
He wasn't nerfed you fucking dingus. Even with half of his power he had 80% of Sheev's own by the time of RoTJ according to Lucas. And the official film novelization (which is still canon in Disney continuity) states he's at his peak.
>>64064056
wow that is extremely sexist. sometimes girls are boys who like do be called mary, sometimes boys are girls who like to be called mary, and sometimes boys are boys who like to be called mary
>>64064054
Think of how powerful Luke is now though.
>>64063976
Lurk moar newfag
>>64064054
>nerfed
But WoG says Vader only lost half of his "potential". And he ends up being almost as strong as Palpatine by the time of RoTJ anyway. And a weaker Anakin in RoTS is > Dooku and Vader in RoTJ is >>>>>>>> Anakin in RoTS in terms of power level faggotry.
So he wasn't nerfed.
>>64062816
Mace Windou.
>>64064137
He better be pretty damn impressive. Would be a disappointment if that punk Kylo is more impressive than Luke
>>64062816
Anakin/Vader
Luke
Sheev
Yoda
Dooku
Obi Wan
Mace Dindu
Qui-gon Jin
Darth Maul
Kylo Ren
Ventress
Rey
The rest...
>>64064357
Why put Qui-Gon above Maul when Maul killed Qui-Gon and also fought him and Obi Wan at the same time?
Also why put Obi Wan over Mace? Obi Wan might have the best defensive stance of the jedi at that time but Mace Windu's stance was specifically for fighting and defeating Sith. He could have killed Sheev in his prime if not for Anakin's interference.
Also why put Vader over Luke when Luke clearly surpasses Vader as soon as he tapped into his anger
>>64064446
Mace sucks. Palpatine toyed with him to turn Anakin. He was the lamest character in the prequels (and that's saying something).
Anakin is the chosen one. He is Star Wars. His son Luke (who Lucas days is the most powerful Jedi ever) comes in just short to Anakin for that reason.
Yoda, Sheev, and Dooku go without saying.
Obi-wan probably belongs in the top tier.
All the rest are below ....
>>64064687
>Mace sucks. Palpatine toyed with him to turn Anakin.
everyone even the people who made this agreed mace defeated Palpatine and was saved by Anakin
probably rey
>>64064687
>Mace sucks. Palpatine toyed with him to turn Anakin.
>burning his own face off was part of his plan
No. It's explained in novels that Mace Windu's form is specifically good for fighting against Sith.
Why he practices this form when he's the one who says in Episode 1 that there hasn't been a sith spotted in hundreds of years is beyond me, but those are the facts.
>Anakin is the chosen one
That doesn't mean anything.
>>64064446
>Mace Windu's stance
>better than the high ground
>>64064772
>>Why he practices this form when he's the one who says in Episode 1 that there hasn't been a sith spotted in hundreds of years is beyond me, but those are the facts.
he could see the force points of the force or some shit, also he was extremely cautious and of course he created Vaapad the form he uses.
>>64062816
/thread
>>64064733
Kek.
Nah, Palpatine slaughtered 3 or 4 other Jedi just prior to embarassing Dindu. He laughed the whole time. He was playing Dindu.
Dindu isn't in the top tier. And if anyone in the production suggested he was, they were just being good liberals.
>>64062816
https://youtu.be/t8RCQDDsMpU
>>64063292
Well have you seen the official new Canon Map of the Star Wars galaxy? Take a look at what is over near Star Killer Base origin point and the unknown Regions where the First Order emerged from. KOTOR elements are going to play a huge role in this series from now on.
http://i.imgur.com/1zg2deT.jpg
Rakata Prime
Huge hint where this series is going.
Why do people say luke is the stronkest when he struggles to get his lighsaber out of some ice in the 2nd (5th) film? I mean I prefer how the force was kinda balanced back in the day but he still doesn't seem that great
>>64064856
If he killed 3 jedi almost instantly then why was he unable to kill Mace instantly? Think logically you stupid fuck. The only point he thought to trick Anakin into helping him was once he was clearly in a losing position.
>>64064856
Mace Windu was considered the strongest fighter of the order by far.
He wasn't just your average joe jedi, he was THE jedi fighter and it doesn't matter what you think but what it happened, Windu won the fight.
>>64062816
Windu is greatest duelest
Yoda is strongest force user
Obiwan has greatest control of his emotions
>>64063692
>Getting mad at correct terms for different sexes
Now gtfo
>>64064894
>struggles to get his lightsaber out of some ice
That was before he was formally trained in the force by Yoda.
>>64064961
>Obiwan has greatest control of his emotions
Not according to the SUPER CANON AS FUCK SERIES The Clone Wars.
Sheev forcewise
Not sure about saber
>>64063772
"You merely adopted the dark side. I was born into it; molded by it."
Meesa no like sand people
Mace Windu
think about it even Yoda couldn't beat the Emperor but Windu kicked the shit out of him
>>64064310
I imagine his main problem in 8 is going to be his emotional turmoil/baggage slowing him down. I'm sure he'll display ridiculous power but allow himself to die or something
>>64062858
oh, you think darkness is your ally,
you merely adopted the dark
Anakin pre incineration.
>>64062816
Obi Wan actually, he pretty much never failed
>>64065083
I can see that happening, yeah
Revan was the most powerful jedi, because he managed to master both the light and the dark without falling to the arrogance of the light or the corruption of the dark.
Rey Kenobi Skywalker
>>64063603
yes because kenobi had a daughter who's in her early 20's in TFA. so he had relations 10 years after he died. makes sense
>>64065215
where are people coming up with this kenobi info???
>>64065207
Unfortunately he's no longer canon familia. Rey is probably gonna follow his story to an extent though.
>>64065239
Obi Wan had a daughter after the clone wars. After the Battle of Endor ended, his daughter had daddy issues and was attracted to Luke cause he was a Jedi like her papi.
>>64065239
Rey would be Obi-Wan's granddaughter, not his daughter.
>>64065215
Rey Kenobi Picard Dark'ness Potter Skywalker
>>64064946
Mace Windu was literally the most boring character in SW history.
He had one major fight and he lost. He was a non-essential character who had virtually no effect on the fate of the Galaxy.
He's an affirmative action character ...therefore I can't take seriously any claims regarding his power because I know the politics influencing those "creative decisions." It wasn't an organic thing....like with Rey, it's "let's take a black person (or in Rey's case, a woman) and make him/her extra super duper awesome."
He'll never be top tier. He just didn't matter.
>>64065274
Just making it up / fan speculation
>>64065286
Don't be so sure. Rakata Prime is canon.
>>64065171
This.
>>64065340
>He had one major fight and he lost.
except he won...
>>64062816
it's mace windu, he even gave up his spot to yoda
>>64063268
Spiritually he brought balance to the force. Combat-wise he killed peak Count Dooku and killed Sidious.
>>64062816
The one and only mace windu mothafuxka. He would have killed palpatine but Jedi are no match for sith so that's the only reason he died. Yo nobody else has a purple light saber bitch mace was the best Jedi who ever lived ftw
>>64062918
Hibernated for 14 winters in your mum's pussy and she never even knew about it.
>>64063268
Consider his age. He was crazy young when he was able to go toe to toe with the strongest Jedi and Sith. Give another 10 years to his Jedi Training instead of being a baked potato and he would have been the best by far.
>>64065479
actually that emotionally unstable faggot anakin dun goofed
>>64062858
Kek. Kylo is such an emo fag
>>64065347
Revan =/= Rakata Prime, they're just cherrypicking and modifying what they want from the EU familia. It's possible they could bring him up later but there's no reason to believe they will when they're taking so many things from his character for others in the filmsm
>>64065574
I said don't' be so certain that Revan isn't. I didn't say Revan -is- canon.
>>64065402
No, he flew out the windu like a Dindu bitch...screaming the whole time.
Sheev wasn't going to turn Anakin, unless he set up a wedge scenario where he essentially forced Anakin to make a decision. It was essentially Padme or Dindu.....and the second Anakin attacked Dindu...that very second, he was lost forever. Sheev played Dindu, and Anakin, and the whole Republic.....and if you think for one fucking second that Dindu could actually beat Sheev, then he's playing your pleb ass right now.
You know what, fuck it. I change my answer. It's Sheev. It's always been Sheev.
>>64065631
Well it's kind of a yes or no deal, there's no maybe until they explicitly bring him back into the canon.
>>64063864
>He's also a big guy.
and wore a mask
>>64065530
>dun goofed
>killed 30 kids and the rest of the Jedi temple like a boss
>you are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor
>killed emperor faggot
Emotions gave him his power bitch, I would call him my favorite Jedi but he was no Jedi
>you are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor
>>64065574
If Bane's canon, then there's strong evidence to say that Revan is canon. The nigga learned everything from Revan's holocron after all.
>>64065671
We don't know if he is or not. Therefore it can't be explicitly stated right now whether it's yes or no.
>>64063705
Obi Wan let himself get defeated by Vader. Anakin literally never beat Obi Wan in a fight. Obi Wan is stronger.
>>64065083
>>64065189
I'm tired of seeing old wise jedi die, holy shit. How are they supposed to pass down any wisdom and knowledge if they keep sacrificing themselves
>>64065724
>Obi Wan always gets cucked by Dooku
>Anakin easily dismantles Dooku
Anakin only lost to Obi Wan because he flat out ran into the razor full throttle without a sensible thought.
Anakin is the strongest.
>>64063864
If anakin is stronger than Obi, how come he got btfo by him when he was at his prime?
Palpatine
>>64062816
is there a strongest though? Luke was the strongest force user, Anakin the most balanced, Obi-Wan the greatest user of soresu and revan was also extremely powerful
>>64065652
He won the fight you stupid fuck. He was killed after he already had the fight won, due to outside interference.
>>64065763
Because he was insane. He lost the moment he decided to just rush into Obi Wan despite it being clear as day that in this situation he will be dismembered. Nothing to do with strength.
>>64065730
I don't want to see him die either.
Crossing fingers for Luke surviving ep VIII and demonstrating the extent of his abilities, but also the amount of restraint he exercises.
Even if Luke dies in VIII, he'll just be a force ghost in IX
>>64064894
dude is untrained at that point and has never seen anyone do that type of stuff
>>64065763
Because Obi was a defensive specialist and he had the high ground.
I mean sure, it was fucking stupid, but it makes sense.
>>64065757
Obi-Wan only one because he had the high ground
>>64063292
The last shot of the falcon on that island was almost an exact copy of the ebon hawk on Rakata.
This movie was as much influenced by KOTOR than it was ANH.
>>64065757
Luke is probably stronger than Anakin, and Rey probably has more potential than either of them, because I guess being a descendant increases your force power.
Obi-Wan is the best lightsaber user according to movie canon. He beats Grievous, beats Maul, beats pre-robot Darth Vader, basically stalemates robot Darth Vader as an out of practice old man before becoming one with the force to inspire Luke, he survives the Battle of Geonosis when many do not, and he is one of two Jedi to survive Order 66.
Anakin has high midichlorian count and was born of the force so he probably has the GOAT force potential. I'm willing to bet Ep 8 Luke is the GOAT force user after a decade or so in exile (given Kylo's age and training).
If Plagueis is Snoke he might be best force user since he created life, subverted death, and pretty much figured out the force.
>>64065763
Rewatch the whole fight. Anakin dominated the entire time until the high ground bullshit. Obi-Wan got lucky Anakin being retarded just like how he got lucky against Maul being retarded.
>>64065866
>Rey probably has more potential than either of them
What do you figure her midichlorian count is then if she's so strong? Previous all-time record was Anakin's before he was mutilated
Reminder that this is canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8uXBdCIsrU
>>64065785
No he didn't, Reddit.
He was used by Sheev (like the stiff no-personality idiot that Dindu was) to get Anakin to make that final fateful decision. He was a means to an end. A tool. He didn't matter. He isn't a main character or a top tier player in galactic history. And any perceived Strength was just George talking out of his ass....which is all he ever does.
Anakin, Luke, Sheev, Yoda, Dooku, Obi-wan are the big six. Everyone else is on a lower tier.
>>64065898
Actually when you count the landed hits (even punches/kicks) what you said was true.
Anakin was dominating that fight even though I wanted to be based Obi Wan
Didnt matter though, Obi still won
>>64065857
I know it wasn't, but based on that star map and roughly where rakata prime is, i secretly hoped that the destination planet was rakata prime. Rakata prime was a pretty blue world too.
again, I KNOW IT WASN'T STATED THAT IT WAS RAKATA PRIME.
Qui Gon was able to turn himself into a ghost unassisted just because he felt like it.
>>64065885
>he is one of two Jedi to survive Order 66.
More than two Jedi survive Order 66. Rebels is canon unfortunately.
>>64065922
>midicholorian count
>implying Qui-Gon didn't just make up that bullshit to convince everyone Anakin was the GOAT
>>64065961
would Rakata Prime have had the first Jedi Temple? Maybe Luke was using it as a base while he searched for it?
I would love for Revan and KOTOR to be made canon again (not the TOR garbage arc he got though)
>>64065978
But it would explain why she's so strong off the bat like so. High midichlorian count means lots of smart little organisms pretty much telling and teaching her body what to do regardless of her actual experience
IT WAS ANAKIN
>>64062984
Dooku dropped a pillar to distract Yoda and ran for his little bitch life. Palpatine took advantage of an superior position to beat him. They were evenly matched.
>>64065967
>doesn't give a fuck about big ass gobber fish in planet core
>cheats at gambling using his force powers
>uses force powers to influence leaders of nations at whim like the Gun Guns
>Disobeys the jedi council in training anakin
Qui Gon is truely the GOAT
>>64066000
>The first Jedi Temple
That's part of the reason its unquestionably NOT rakata prime. It was just a nice thought I was entertaining in my head.
Serene blue world and all that
>>64066049
>dies to a twirling flipping sith ballerina apprentice
>>64065961
different anon, I want it to be Rakata too. I was refreshing to see KOTOR force powers in TFE. Force pull/push are a little boring.
>>64066049
I wish the prequels were better written so Qui-Gon could be the rebellious and self-serving grey Jedi that he was implied to be instead of a stoic boring fuck.
>>64062816
I've only watched the new one, so I'm guessingnick fury
>>64064132
Here's your (You).
So how strong was based Ki-Adi-Mundi?
>>64066238
Anybody who got killed by Order 66 was not only a shitty lightsaber user, they also had shitty force sensitivity to not sense the betrayal coming.
>>64066274
Then how did they achieve the rank of Jedi Master?
Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Master Baiter.
Baits Maul into a false sense of security before chopping him in half. Baits Anakin into a jump he can't make. Finally he baits Vader into turning him into a force ghost that aids Luke throughout all three movies.
>>64066274
Didn't they formed a bond and because of that they both never saw the betrayal coming and really suffered because of it? I'm also sure thanks to the biochips not even the clones knew about the order 66.
>>64065947
>The creator of a character knows nothing about that character! My vision of that character is right and what his author said about him is false!
Not the same guy you're arguing with btw. You're just really stupid and couldn't help myself responding to you
>>64064772
>No. It's explained in novels that Mace Windu's form is specifically good for fighting against Sith.
It's also explained in the EP III novel that Sheev was toying with Dindu... Plus as far as the Jedi knew, the sitg have been extinct for generations.
>>64065720
They retconned the entire EU except for what they specified, so until they bring him back the definitive answer is in fact no.
>>64066301
Achieving a rank of Master means jack shit during peace time.
>>64065885
>beats Maul
>>64066238
His actor was based as fuck
>To create Mundi's movements, Carson spent time with elderly people and watched the ways they moved and spoke. In crafting Mundi's manner of speech, Carson said he spoke slowly not only because of the Jedi's age, but because he believed Mundi was wise and would not waste his words.
>Lucas did not give Carson any backstory from which to build his performance as Mundi, but simply left it up to the actor to create.
>Upon learning Mundi would be fighting in that film, Carson worked out a great deal before filming began to get physically fit, and claimed he was even outrunning some of the stunt performers
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ki-Adi-Mundi#Film_portrayal
>>64066346
Lmao this guy really hates mace
>>64064733
did you even watch the scene...
palp executes 3 jedi in like 10 seconds then toys with mace for a few minutes waiting for anakin to show up. Just listen to the dialogue during the fight and the look at palpatines face.
"anakin... save me... oh he he's killing me"
the moment anakin turns palaptine shoots a wave of lightning into mace's face.
Kit Fisto
/thread
>>64066563
>>64066654
As the great plinkett pointed out, this dumbass is using a laser sword that can easily cut off those tentacles of his. If he was a great jedi, he'd use a lightspear or something.
>>64066563
Palpatine was in total control in that scene. He was always in total control of everything in which he was directly involved, right up until his loyal servant for decades betrayed him to save his own son.
>>64065652
>>64065340
>>64064856
>being so mad and insecure because a black jedi kicked sheevs ass
Holy fuck I'm dying here.
>>64065959
Obi won, that doesn't mean he was the better fighter, a more powerful Force-User or skilled swordsmen.
He's the weakest of the main Jedi.
>>64066705
>as the great faggot pointed out
Stopped reading right there, get your own opinions and observations family.
>>64066794
>He wasn't better, but beat everyone he faced except Dooku.
>>64066823
Okay. Kit Fisto has a bunch of tentacles on his head and he shouldn't use a lightsaber. That's why he couldn't fight Sheev because he was too worried about accidentally cutting himself.
He was an idiot who shouldn't have been a lightsaber wielder.
>>64066837
>didn't do anything against Dooku
>on the defensive and dominated the entire fight against Anakin
>gets his ass kicked by Maul every time he fights in TCW
>"No he's strong!"
>>64062918
you don't need to do anything impressive to be the most powerful jedi.
>>64066837
the only reason he lost to dooku because he was fighting on level ground
>>64062858
I really want someone to take the scene where he loses his shit and slashes the wall a bunch of times and put it to a dashboard confessional song. loop this video for 10 minutes and post it to youtube.
>>64065947
Go back to your shit hole /pol/. Mace beat Sheev. Its come straight from Lucas' mouth. Just becuase Jessie Owens beat your arayan master-race doesn't mean you can refute the truth.
Get cucked.
>>64066915
>>64066323
Obi gave us his first bait when he head feints Maul in the final fight in Ep 1. He just couldn't stop baiting Sith and beating them.
>>64066794
He's the best swordsman ever as far as movies go. Beat Maul, Grievous, peak Vader, and stalemated robo-Vader before killing himself to become more powerful than ever. Who has a better fight resume than that?
>>64066963
>autism
>>64066000
The rakatans were the first force sensitive beings in the entire galaxy. Originating on rakata prime. The built the first galactic empire, 30k years before battle of yavin. The Infinity empire was made of 11 billion rakatans and a couple trillion slaves. They're pretty much the reason the galaxy advanced so much technologically.
Obviously that's not canon but its pretty cool. The entire race was force sensitive so maybe Luke is on the planet for that reason.
>>64063692
>being butthurt over literally the faggiest thing in existence
>>64066979
>beat Maul
Jobbing.
>beat Grievous
Not a threat in the movie.
>peak Vader
Peak Vader is RoTJ. RoTS Vader is jobbing again.
>stalemated robo-Vader
Novel states Vader wasn't even trying when he fought Obi-Wan on the Death Star.
>Who has a better fight resume?
Maul
Windu
Palpatine
Anakin
Dooku
Luke
>>64066979
Mustafar Vader is not peak Vader bro.
>>64066986
>welcome to /tv/
>>64066953
>underrated post
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader = 27,700
Darth Sidious/Palpatine (with Kyber Crystal) = 20,500
Yoda = 17,700
Luke Skywalker = 14,500
Leia Organa Solo = 14,500
Aenon Jurtis = 14,200
Shintor Beerus (Ancient Jedi Master) = 13,900
Ce Ce Denowai = 13,700
Ben (Jhon) Skywalker = 13,700
Anakin Solo (Son of Leia and Han Solo) = 13,700
Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus = 13,500
Obi-Wan Kenobi = 13,400
Kaja Sinis (The First Jedi) = 13,250
Kyle Katarn = 12,200
Mace Windu = 12,000
Darth Maul = 12,000Midichlorians are canon.
>>64067025
If ROTJ Vader is peak Vader then I guess Luke is the all-time greatest since he had a month of training and beat peak Chosen One in his second ever duel.
>>64066127
iktfb
Smh at all the people who don't know Exar Kun or Naga Sadow
>>64067072
>being this retarded
Luke had a month's training in TESB with Yoda, and 3 years of self-teaching with material left behind by Obi-Wan between ANH and TESB. Luke had over a year between TESB and RoTJ.
Also Emperor straight up says if Luke becomes a full fledged Jedi Knight, he would be more powerful then Vader and Sidious put together from his own fucking mouth.
>>64067061
lmao but... miidiclorians a shit
High work > talent
>>64067061
>fanfiction the post
>>64067099
/thread
Force-wise alone then Yoda.
In lightsaber combat, Mace Windu (guy invented a combat style that literally taps into the dark side to fuck people up).
Anakin/Luke are probably the most balanced between both disciplines.
>>64067106
So was Luke the chosen one from the prophecy all along?
>>64067099
Vitiate > Exar Kun
Revan > Exar Kun
Exar Kun > Naga Sadow
Freedon Nadd > Naga Sadow
Tulak Hord = Exar Kun
Tulak Hord > Naga Sadow
Marka Ragnos > Naga Sadow
Top 10:
10. Ki Adi Mundu
9. Plo Koon
8. Yaddle
7. Kit Fisto
6. Mace Windu
5. Obi-Wan Kenobi
4. Count Dooku
3. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
1. Anakin Skywalker
Yoda > Obi-Wan > Mace > Anakin
What if Padme was a jedi in disguise and that's why Luke is strong?
>>64067162
No, Luke was the Sun of Sons. Anakin was the Chosen One, it doesn't matter because Lucas directly fucking states that Luke has the same power level and potential as Anakin before he got half his power loss from Mustafar fight and turned into a cyborg.
"Luke becomes the man that Anakin was supposed to but never could."
>Yoda above Luke
>Anakin above Luke
>>64067106
>he would be more powerful than Vader and Sidious put together
this just makes me way more hyped for episode 8 luke
>>64067186
>Yoda got his lightsaber blasted out of his hand at point-blank by a Sheev who was weakened by Windu
>Windu blocks his lightning at point-blank while he has a sustained Force barrage of lightning attacks
>Yoda can't react to Sidious' Force Lightning at the start of their fight
>Windu disarms Sidious
>Sidious disarms Yoda
>Obi-Wan was literally barely Kit Fisto tier
>>64067106
Okay but 99% of Jedi are trained from early childhood. Swamp summer camp with Yoda followed by self-teaching shouldn't be anywhere near full potential. If Luke with max 5 years of sub-optimal training can beat peak Vader he's definitely the GOAT.
>>64067061
>Anakin Skywalker = Darth Vader power level
Is this for real?
>Leia above Obi 1, Dooku, Mace and Maul
oh shit, this can't be real.
>>64067223
Obi-Wan beat Maul, Grievous and Vader though.
>>64067225
>Anakin
>Luke
>comparable to the average Jedi
Luke is just that good, fucker.
>>64067191
So Rey is the chosen one of prophecy now?
>>64067240
Its not dumbass.
>>64067251
>Maul
Jobbing. Every time Maul and Obi-Wan fight in TCW,
>>64062984
Sheev tried to escape and even his lightning shit didn't work at all against Yoda. Yoda wiped the floor with him most of that fight
>>64062816
If Obi-Wan is the most powerful Jedi then Darth Maul is the most powerful Sith.
Vader doesn't count because that was a sacrifice.
>>64067288
Yoda had to get the fuck out of there too.
Secret Service-tier troopers were closing in.
>>64067255
Okay but if Luke and Anakin are equally gifted but Anakin needed 40 years of experience to reach peak form and Luke only needed 5 to beat him I'd say Luke must be stronger in the force.
>>64067251
Maul was fucking around and Obi-Wan only beat him because of jobbing as a MC with plot shields. Every time they fight in TCW, Obi-Wan gets the shit kicked out of him and runs away from Maul.
>Grievous
Grievous sucks in movie canon, who gives a shit?
>Vader
Jobbing again.
>>64067288
>Yoda wiped the floor with him most of that fight.
Yoda is the one that ran away.
Yoda is the one who could barely use the Force to throw one Senate pod at Sheev while Sheev was throwning dozens of them at him while laughing like an asshole.
Nice fanfic bro.
>>64067280
TCW doesn't count though. Movies are all that matter.
>>64067325
Anakin has 23 as a Sith Lord.
Anakin only has 13 years as a Jedi Knight.
Luke had to face Darth Vader repeatedly and grew as a result more rapidly while Anakin faced weaker opponents like Dooku and Obi-Wan.
Luke has the benefit of fighting stronger opponents and having both Yoda and Obi-Wan teaching him as their final hope.
>>64067317
RotS Obi-Wan >>>>>>> TPM Obi-Wan
Obi-Wan was a Grand Master.
>>64067251
That's because Obi Wan is far more intelligent than his opponents. He isn't a flashy fighter, he sticks to the basics and exploits his enemies' weaknesses.
>Maul
Overconfident because he killed the knight and underestimated the lowly padawan.
>Girevous
Overconfidence again plus Obi studied his moves and used his environment against a non force user.
>Vader
Vader was blinded with anger from the belief Padme had betrayed him. It made him sloppy.
>>64067355
TCW is as canon as the movies.
>>64067327
Yoda was also like 870 and walking with a cane.
>>64067387
That matters only in your mind!
>>64067251
>Maul
Why does he constantly run away from Maul in the CGI series and lose every fight against Maul when he doesn't have plot protection?
>Grievous
Same Grievous can't even kill Anakin's fucking apprentice Ashoka, and got embarassed by Kit Fisto who wrecked him without trying. Why is this impressive?
>Vader
Jobbing. Vader was insane with rage and acted like a retard.
>>64065479
#justice4tr8v0n
>>64067072
Vader was conflicted. He obviously does not want to kill his son. That is one of the factors that gave the fight so much weight.
>>64067387
So? Sheev had been disfigured and injured by Windu who reflected his lightning back into his face and body and even with that handicap ran away from Sidious.
>>64067420
>CGI series
nobody fucking cares lel, it's a kids show
>>64063207
This
>>64067445
RoTJ explicitly states that Vader was fighting with all of his strength to counter-attack and equal Luke when he taunted about turning Leia to the dark side if Luke refused to join him and the Emperor.
He was at his best and still got overpowered by an enraged Luke.
>>64067490
Low tier b8.
>>64067461
That clearly didn't injure him and he was just doing that to fuck with Anakin. It's his own damn lightning.
>>64067514
>That clearly didn't injure him
You are retarded.
>fuck with Anakin
Playing acting doesn't mean his injuries weren't real you fucking aspie.
>It's his own damn lightning.
So if Obi-Wan trips on his own lightsaber, that means it won't hurt him by the same example you stupid fuck?
>>64063379
>Disney in 2015
>Letting a naturally blonde-haired male into their movies
>>64067510
be crippled but give everything you have at your current disposal /= going all out when uncrippled with full potential released
You're dumb.
>>64067430
Autism.
>>64067543
>So if Obi-Wan trips on his own lightsaber, that means it won't hurt him by the same example you stupid fuck?
No, you shitfuck. The lightsaber isn't conjured up by Obi-Wan's use of the force, it's a physical laser sword. Jesus christ, that was such a bad comparison.
>>64067580
Crippled Vader at his peak is still stronger then RoTS Vader before his mutilation by Word of God and equal to 80% of Sheev's power after 24 years of training as a Sith Lord.
You are dumb.
>>64067490
this
tcw kids are the worst,
>>64067615
No he's not.
>>64067607
>physical laser sword
Its not you stupid mother fucker.
>The lightsaber isn't conjured up by Obi-Wan's use of the Force
Yes it is. They use the Force to create the lightsaber crystals that power their blade's powercells you dumb mother fucker. The movie novelization also explicitly states that Palpatine was being burned by his own lightning.
>>64067638
Wrong.
