So /tv/'s newfound love for the prequels is just a meme right?
Right?
I mean ROTS was okay but we don't actually...
It's a meme right?
It took the focused grouped mediocrity of TFA to reveal the merits of the prequels.
>>64055998
Which are?
>>64055838
i grew up with the prequels; why wouldn't i think they're better than shitty popcorn flicks from the late 70s and 80s?
>>64056023
George Lucas' passion and ability to make a Star Wars movie feel like a Star Wars movie, instead of a glib facsimile.
>>64055838
after having watched TFA 5 times I can honestly say I prefer the prequels and that they were better than ep7.
I'm not saying they were good movies, they had a lot of flaws but TFA made me appreciate them and what lucas did.
>>64055838
It's people trying to be counter-mainstream. I like the prequels because of nostalgia but I can recognize that they were terrible movies and that George Lucas is a madman.
>>64055838
Damn Han looks a lot like Kylo/Ben in this pic
>>64055838
it's just a bunch of retards not knowing what they actually like
I always preferred the prequels even if the political shit went overboard as well as some cringey dialogues but even I notice how many people suddenly fake love for the prequels just ot be contrarian
>>64056023
They were the uncompromised vision of an unfiltered mad man that made zero concessions to audience enjoyment. They were not built to please. They are worse movies than TFA in the traditional sense, but they have more integrity. There is nothing worse than pandering in my eyes.
>>64056202
>There is nothing worse than pandering in my eyes.
this
>>64056079
>George Lucas' passion and ability to make a Star Wars movie feel like a Star Wars movie
That doesn't mean anything. The prequels felt nothing like the OT.
>>64055838
I think the originals have a lot of charm, and I realize I lack the context needed by seeing them when they were released to really appreciate them. But I still think the prequels (excluding the first) hold their own in the series.
Anakins acting in 3 was pretty bad, but it was the only thing negatively I took away from it. And 2 was pretty solid all around. I think it is just the fact that TFA was such a steaming pile of garbage that comparatively the prequels are much better (excluding the first).
I honestly don't think the prequels were horrible. The trilogy for sure beats them, but they did a good job, in my opinion, showing the tragedy of Darth Vader. The feels when anakin shoots up his former school.
>>64056202
>There is nothing worse than pandering in my eyes.
sounds about right
objectively, the movies are far from perfect but what I always liked about them was
>that world building
>feeling that there were fucking huge planets loaded with people
>actual STAR WARS going on
>all those jedi and sith
>>64056079
Wasn't one of the major complaints about the prequels that they didn't feel like the OT?
>>64055838
Probably. The prequels are bad sci fi movies and even worse Star Wars movies.
>>64056023
They were shit films trying to be good films. At least Lucas tried and failed. TFA is deliberately middle of the road, milquetoast vanilla shit that has succeeded only because it was meant to be middle of the road, milquetoast vanilla shit
>>64056079
The main problem with the prequels is that they aren't structured like Star Wars movies at all. The Phantom Menace to be honest is structured more like the OT then the other two.
>>64056278
But it felt like star wars, I'd also dare say the star wars universe as a whole was better off because of the prequels
I dont like sand
>>64055838
it's not a meme, the prequels were definitely better then the original trilogy
>>64056278
>The prequels felt nothing like the OT.
Which is why they have more artistic dignity. He rolled the dice and played it bold and audacious and it blew up in his face, but I respect him more for trying than I respect JJ for playing it safe with easy nostalgia pandering. How could TFA have failed when they did was replicate what worked in the past and conform to fanboy desires?
>>64056357
No it didn't.
>>64056360
>>64056170
>It's people trying to be counter-mainstream
you literally just described the people who "hate" the prequels
>>64056367
well memed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXaDtAtpLPs
>>64056357
this
>tfw seeing coruscant for the first time
>tfw seeing the jedi temple for the first time
>tfw seeing the underground levels of the city for the first time
>>64056415
the more popular opinion by FAR is that the prequels suck. People who have never seen Star Wars know that the prequels suck, because well, they suck.
>>64056415
That's fucking wrong though. The consensus among most people is that the prequels were bad. Even people who don't care about Star Wars see that thy are shit.
>>64056202
>no pandering
>tons of retarded fan service like Vader building C-3PO as a kid
Just think for a single minute before hitting "Post"
>>64056278
>>64056315
We're connected to the Prequels, because of Anakin and the old cast.
Star Wars 7 is a brand new story, so it's hard for it to feel like Star Wars.
And like it's been said, Pandering sucks. Lucas doesn't pander, he makes pottery.
>>64056367
2000s baby detected
>>64056326
>>64056331
hello, reddit
>>64056154
>after having watched TFA 5 times
holy fuck why?
>Spend some time at a dinner party
>Some aspie keeps talking to me about how he hates the prequels and loves TFA
>tfw I realized /tv/ was right
I remember when George Lucas was universally reviled on /tv/ and now we have people here praising him.
As soon as I got home from TFA I wrote George Lucas a 3 page long apology letter.
>>64056357
It didn't feel like Star Wars at all. They were completely different and far worse. Just look at the light saber fights, they took slow Samurai fencing with a couple force enabled flourishes and turned it into anime type fucking spinning and flipping nonsense.
If you think they felt like Star Wars then you were just too young to grow up before they came out. That's fine but don't bullshit about something you don't understand.
>>64056519
Never heard of Masochism before? I straight up left the theatre at the one and a half hour mark. The last movie I walked out of was The Legend of Zorro 10 years ago when I was 13 years old.
Not even morbid curiosity could keep me from leaving.
>>64056023
The prequel trilogy is the summer movie blockbuster version of outsider art
>>64056402
The OT was great and all. But most of the sensible things in the EU is after TPM. The prequels themselves were meh to bad imo, but the things they spawned are great
>>64056467
>The consensus among most people is that the prequels were bad
fucking retard. they were forced to believe shit like that because of nostalgiafags who cried all day every day.
literally every single time I ask some pleb why they think the prequels are inferior, they say "Jar Jar" and that's it. none of them actually know their shit, even many people that call themselves fans
>>64055998
this
>>64056596
It's just Reddit invading and trying to fit in.
It's a combination of contrarians and kids who were born in like 1997. Both groups equally as fucking gay as the other.
>>64056686
but reddit loves tfa.
nce try disney representative
>>64056656
Fucking this.
The most outspoken "Star Wars" fans are normies that haven't even looked at any piece of Star Wars media besides the films.
Kek is there a better meme than "world building"? Honestly I don't even know what the fuck people are trying to say when they use it as a positive. Are you faggots trying to talk about how Lucas used massive amounts of CGI to create planets that are just full of nonsense, famously described as "so dense" by Rick "I'm Just Here For My Paycheck" McCallum? Let's see here.
>Mos Espa: Ben Hur ripoff sequence
>Naboo: Forced love scenes and bizarre geisha themed planet
>Coruscant: Unnecessary CGI flight chase scene and space CSPAN planet
All of these places exist for the most mind numbing and hollow sequences put to film. These films do nothing to get the audience to care about who lives in these places and why they do the things that they do. Why do I give a fuck about Rosie the Robot's speech on Geonosis when the plot is mind boggling and difficult to follow? Or why should I care about the livelihood of the gungans when I don't get the stakes of the conflict with the trade federation? Why is anyone doing anything in these fucking movies? Jakku might feel a lot like Tatooine, but I cared far more by watching 10 minutes of the scavenger camp than I ever did during the nauseating, sterile sequences on Coruscant. There's your fucking "world building."
>>64056631
>The prequel trilogy is the summer movie blockbuster version of outsider art
This.
If David Lynch's name had been attributed to the prequel trilogy and everyone saw the artifical aesthetic and unnatural dialoge and performances he'd have been given a palm d'or.
>>64056472
that is the literal opposite of fan service
everyone fucking hated that shit
>>64056416
I'm not meme'ing, I'm serious. also that video is fucking hilarious
>>64056759
Intimately linking two characters together for no purpose = fan service
>>64056750
Confirmed for ADD
The Phantom Menace laid groundwork, that showed how inept the Republic is(The Naboo crisis, and how the courts and senatorial procedure did nothing)
The Separatists may be cronies for Sheev, but they have legitimate grievances.
>>64056466
>the more popular opinion by FAR is that the prequels suck
>>64056467
>The consensus among most people is that the prequels were bad
according to whom? a bunch of contrarian reddit-browsing "reviewers" who literally wear fedoras?
>>64056747
>that haven't even looked at any piece of Star Wars media besides the films.
this so much. for a long time I haven't considered myself a star wars fan just because of shit like that. If I was an actual fan, I would've read all the goddamn books etc
now, it has gotten easier for numbfucks like that due to the EU not existing but hell, people even don't know jack shit about the OT nowadays.
I don't have anything against people preferring the OT even though I like the prequels more. both trilogies feel entirely different and of course that would raise an eyebrow or two amongst "fans" but people really can't like more than one thing at a time apparently
>>64056838
>grievances
>grievous
WHOA ITS ALL THERE
What the fuck were their grievances, champ? I won't accept any explanation from video games or cartoons
>>64056759
Everyone hates it because he didn't even do a good job cashing in on nostalgia by shoving in c-3po and giving absolutely retarded reasons for him to be there. It was meant as fan service and it's so obvious that it fails except on those who are so accomplished at turning their brains off that they think the prequels are actually good.
>>64056832
If the aim is to please the fans then it's fan service. If you're making these links to intentionally anger and antagonize the fanbase then it's the opposite of fan service.
>>64056486
nope, I was born in '88
>>64056882
Their grievance is that the Trade Federation got humiliated by the republic, and they got a bunch of friends to leave a sinking ship with them.
Does the prequel trilogy qualify as vulgar auteurism?
>tfw the millennial redditors are praising the prequels to impress their internet friends with their contrarian opinions
>>64056895
Do you actually not understand that Lucas was actively trying to make an enjoyable movie and failed? You honestly think the prequels are him holding up a giant middle finger and doing that well?
>>64056686
but reddit despises the prequels
>>64056944
Why were they humiliated by the republic? Why would that mean that they would have to blockade Naboo? Why would an organization called the trade federation block trade?
>>64056838
>The Phantom Menace laid groundwork, that
showed how inept the Republic is
never even thought about that. fuck, now I have an additional argument for PT haters
>>64056949
>>64056949
reddit hates the prequels, because they watched the Plinkett reviews
>>64056874
>even though I like the prequels more
Now I can disregard any opinions you have from here on out.
>>64056617
>turned it into anime type fucking spinning and flipping nonsense.
Anime is NOT like that! SAGE AND REPORTED!
>>64056961
>Do you actually not understand that Lucas was actively trying to make an enjoyable movie and failed?
Lucas' contempt for the Star Wars fanbase had been growing since the fucking 70s. It's clear that his prequel trilogy and various special editions were all part of a revenge scheme. To strike back and destroy the monster he spawned. He did a great job too until his lost his nerve and cashed out when Disney came along.
>>64057013
And now reddit loves them because they're fickle babies, and is using our once proud board as a dumping ground for their angst.
>>64056874
>I don't have anything against people preferring the OT even though I like the prequels more.
Please kill yourself.
>>64056466
>>64056467
see this shit. the reason people hate the prequels is because they were told to do so and DIDN'T EVEN WATCH THEM!!!
I don't know where this THE PREQUELS ARE THE WORST SHIT EVER, REEEE!!! meme comes from.
it must have been between 2007 and 2009 that I say a sudden rise in unreasonable hatred. before that people didn't like them because were not good, but after that people started sperging about how the prequels were a massive turd, and a lot of them didn't even watch them, it was like the "cool" thing to do.
I'd take the prequels over any capeshit any day of the year.
>>64056472
Pottery =/= Fan service
Let's be honest, The Phantom Menace is ten times better than TFA, prequels are massively underrated because of quirky redditors "le prequels are bad mmmkay epic maymay", Lucas is a fantastic director and a real human being, try to watch Red Tails if you want to see a good war movie. Hating on Lucas or prequels is literally reddit-tier
>>64057056
The Reddit generation loves TFA though so your argument doesn't work. I'd go as far to say that the more you hate TFA the less reddit you are and defending some aspects of the prequel trilogy is a vital element of hating TFA.
>>64057056
This so fucking much. They change their opinions over night to appear edgy and counter-culture. 4chan as well of course.
>>64057056
Nice try disney shill. TFA is fucking trash.
>>64057013
Except now they love them.
>>64057056
reddit hates the prequels and loves tfa. nice try.
>>64057042
>original trilogy
>boring as fuck
>movies bring nothing to the table except for practical effects and some shitty lightsaber battles
well, so can I disregard any opinions you have. it's truly amusing seeing how delusional star wars fags in general are, thinking they're all patrician by liking the OT
>>64056996
They were humiliated by the Republic, because they were arrested. Remember the end of the PM?
>Why would they blockade Naboo
To gain tax concessions that were being denied to them.
>Why would an organization called the Trade Federation block trade
To gain favorable trading terms with Naboo
>>64056882
who cares? the fact is that they had grievances, you're not supposed to over-analyze something that wasn't intended to be explained
>>64055998
No, it took the 'TFA will be bad' meme from the last year and tried to paint the prequels in a positive light by any desperate means possible
As if creativity is more important than the execution of the narrative
>>64057055
That would have actually been awesome if he had actively made the prequels terrible. I'm imagining Plan 9 levels of terrible. He had the power to do it!
Instead they were just mildly terrible.
>>64057055
You are an idiot.
They've lost their goddamn minds.
Then end.
>>64057089
Can you give me a clear and constructed argument as to why the prequels are redeemable films when we've demonstrated that they suffer from poor pacing, shoddy writing, over-reliance on CGI, and lazy directing? Please refrain from insulting any fans of Star Wars who disagree with your opinion and do not mention reddit because it's irrelevant to your argument.
>>64056949
it's the exact opposite, the redditors are the ones hating on the prequels
>>64057130
Wouldn't blockading them ruin their chances of trade entirely and then get support from other systems to follow suit?
>>64057196
Contempt for the prequels fucking predates Reddit. They have always been bad movies that fail to live up to the OT.
>>64057196
>>64057123
>>64057111
Do you have any ancestors who lived in Salem during the 17th century by chance?
>>64057124
>this is what prequel apologists actually believe
You should never comment again. This was that bad.
>>64057192
I never mentioned they were redeemable, in fact I point out they weren't good.
What I tried to convey is that the hatred of the prequels has become a meme.
>>64057244
The blockade was to force a treaty, which would then be upheld, because Sheev would "make it legal".
>Follow suit
Maybe, but the trade federation was being manipulated, and likely weren't thinking in the long-term. Unless the Naboo were clearly in the wrong here.
>>64057260
literally "I've never watched the prequels": The Post
>>64057260
This guy gets it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TX6x2WLgk
>>64057298
I don't know what the fuck a meme even is anymore and I don't care. It's a lazy way to cop out of any argument on here. Just call it a 'meme' or a 'cuck' and you win.
>>64057192
>poor pacing, shoddy writing, over-reliance on CGI, and lazy directing
All of this is true but they weren't designed every step of the way purely to please audiences and Lucas certainly wasn't afraid to alienate his viewers, that makes them closer to art than TFA could ever be. Honestly TFA is not cinema at all but nostalgia pornography.
>>64057361
This, pandering to the fanbase does not make the movie good.
>>64057329
Oh how do you figure?
>>64057312
So the trade federation, who has the power to control portions of the senate and manipulate star systems, are too inept and stupid to realize what they're doing?
>>64057260
>Contempt for the prequels fucking predates Reddit.
Something can predate reddit and still be reddit in sensibility. Hatred of the prequels was a vital ideological building block in the formation of reddit if anything.
Prequel hate was proto-reddit.
>>64055838
>DUDE LUCAS IS TRULY A MISUNDERSTOOD GENIUS WHO TRIED TO TELL US A TOTALLY "NECESSARY" PART OF THE STAR WARS SAGA AND HE TOTALLY DIDN'T DO IT FOR THE TOY SALES LMAO
>>64057260
It did become a meme but it did so because so many people hated it when it came out. Here's Eli Roth reacting at the time: http://web.archive.org/web/20000305191203/http://www.leisuresuit.net/Webzine/articles/starwars_rev.shtml
>>64055838
>love
People keep using this term and that's incorrect.
We never loved the prequels. What we loved was insulting them. For 10+ years we've gotten together and shat on the sequels in good fun. So even though the prequels were not good, they brought us all together.
TFA is a rehash of A New Hope -- we can all agree on that. However, people are split on whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. I find the film to be mediocre and rather forgettable. The prequels were more memorable albeit being worse films.
In two months, nobody will be talking about The Force Awakens. However, there will still be grand shitposting threads about the prequels, and that's the problem with TFA.
>>64057393
because you hate the prequels. if you'd actually watched them you'd know how good they actually are
>>64055838
MAKE UP YOUR OWN FUCKING MIND YOU NIGGER THIS ISN'T REDDIT WHERE YOU THINK WHAT THE MODS TELL YOU TO
>>64057339
Spaced is a reddit show and Pegg, Frost and Wright were always reddit actors and directors who later went on to make movies that were themselves reddit.
Hatred of prequels brought you "le geek culture" classics like Hot Fuzz and Scott Pilgrim. Hatred of prequels brought you reddit itself.
>>64057436
Maybe it is a meme now but it shouldn't stop us from recognizing the faults of the prequels. They simply were not as good as the OT.
>>64055998
This.
>>64055838
/tv/ has a deep rooted desire to be contrarian irregardless of actual quality or merit
>>64057361
>>64057391
Star Wars fucking invented movie merchandise. The entire saga is about pandering to the fans. Toys, comic books, posters, everything about a movie franchise began with Star Wars. It is tantamount to its very definition. Every one of these films was created with that in mind after A New Hope. Lucas designed the prequels after realizing that guys like James Cameron were overshadowing his legacy with their massive projects, such as Titanic. He constantly states his worry that TPM won't beat Titanic at the box office during the documentary following the movie's creation. Why would a man worry about box office numbers so much while at the same time creating a film without any concern for his fan base?
>>64057454
I never said that I hated the prequels but they're certainly not good.
>>64057454
They're absolutely awful.
When you compare then to an asspull like this new movie, they're just OK.
TFA used "the force did it" to write half of the movie. It pulled the same tired shit.
>>64057395
More like they're greedy, and Sheev gave them an opportunity to SQUEEZE someone for some more Republic Dataries.
>>64056394
This.
Lucas is a genius, JJ is a Businessman
>>64057493
this, the entire board is nothing but contrarian edgelord teenagers (much like the entire site as a whole). whenever I get butt-blasted I simply remember that the anon I'm responding to likely isn't even old enough to drive
>>64057428
You were rooting for those Separatist core ships to get away harder than anything that happened in TFA
>>64057575
Nah
>>64057510
how so?
>>64057562
I'm 35 years old and seeing TFA has made me realize I LOVE the prequel trilogy. Keep projecting though.
only oldfags that cant let go dislike the prequels.
the prequels were fucking good, alot better than TFA anyway. you want a star wars film to be like star wars dont you? well TFA wasnt.
the whole coruscant parts of the prequels with the byzantine type politics, with sheev and anakins talk about the dark side were all memorable moments. TFA had literally nothing memorable. no memorable characters, quotes, scenes. nothing. the worlds were shit as well
>>64056747
Great anecdote.
My favorite video game period is KOTOR 2. I love the Zahn books, the Bane books, and even some of the novelizations. Salvatore made Ep 2 bearable.
I also watched both Clone Wars.
I dislike the prequels. Some parts of Ep 3 were okay.
>>64056838
You can build a world all you want. It has no effect in a narrative if you don't care about the people in it.
>>64057312
So they became the head of the Trade Federation despite being that shortsighted? They were conveniently shortsighted to advance the plot. Plot device characters.
>>64057477
Liking a movie or series with Simon Pegg in it automatically makes you a redditor? Okay. Many of the movies are garbage, but Spaced is great and predates Reddit and his other stuff.
Hope you didn't like TFA, since he was Mr. Quarter Portion.
>>64057562
It'll be better when these kiddos go back to school after Winter Break.
>>64057613
The poster count hasn't changed.
>>64057611
I'm not projecting
>>64057662
>Spaced is great and predates Reddit and his other stuff.
Spaced invented the reddit sensibilities. Maybe not singlehandedly but it was certainly a cultural cornerstone in the formation of reddit.
>>64057602
Wooden acting and dialog, hilariously bad casting, poor CGI but most of all I dislike how they sync up with the OT. It feels like I'm watching a different series.
>>64057665
what?
The prequels are a absurdist deconstruction of the space opera genre. Much like godard deconstructed the french thriller genre with movies like Pierrot Le fou.
Its real patrician cinema.
>>64057682
>everyone who disagrees with me in a teenager
You certainly are.
>>64057613
Why do people like this go on and on about the "politics?" They were shittily done and didn't make sense.
Also, you mentioned one memorable part out of the whole PT.
Since when does a quotable movie equal quality content? Following that line of thought, Space Balls is a fucking masterpiece.
>>64055838
>we
>>64057613
>only oldfags that cant let go dislike the prequels
Also anyone that enjoys Star Wars more than live action anime or anyone that has even a little bit of taste.
>>64056202
The prequels do nothing but pander to fans you whiny manchild. It existed to give the normies exactly what they wanted to see.
Or did you think Yoda whipping out a lightsaber was part of Lucas's artistic vision?
>>64057793
>Space Balls is a fucking masterpiece.
It will leave a far greater cultural footprint than The Cuck Awakens.
>>64055838
>It's a /tv/ is one guy meme
Merry Christmas, you fuckers.
>>64057842
>cuck
There's that word again!
>>64057711
What the fuck are you going on about?
It made the female lead look like a fucking idiot, which is something reddit hates. Pegg worked for a goddamn comic book store and drew comics, and you expected the series to not acknowledge some geek culture?
The characters were good, and not the dumb lol random humor reddit tends to enjoy. I always cracked up when that biker courier would blank out and start raving to random noises. Or the main chick appearing as if she was going through a humongous writing session when in actuality 2 minutes passed.
I really don't understand your point. Nowhere have I seen where Spaced is venerated as the inspiration for reddit.
>>64055998
This. Prequels are bad but in comparison to TFA, it's fucking great. Lucas really is a misunderstood genius.
>>64057611
Wow a manchild with horrible taste posting on a South Pacific basket weaving forum. You definitely disprove the general rule. In other news, Ben Carson proves that all black people are republican and anyone claiming otherwise is projecting.
>>64057735
>I don't know how to count the number of posters in a thread
Go back to reddit
>>64057842
>HURR I can't think up a decent reply so let's drop some ebin memes peppered with KEK.
>>64055838
You saved this from my post in that thread about prequel fans didn't you?
Did you make sure to grab han?
>>64055838
I've yet to see someone attack TFA without back pedaling so yes I'd say it's a meme. Just look at this thread
>THE PREQUELS HAD INTEGRITY TFA SUCKS
>TFA is a better movie than any of the prequels
>YA TFA IS A BETTER MOVIE THAN ANY OF THE PREQUELS BUT IT'S SHIT BECAUSE PANDERING
>the prequels have pandering
>YA BUT IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK AND THE AUDIENCE HATED IT
>that's still pandering
>YA BUT GEORGE LUCAS DID IT ON PURPOSE TO PISS PEOPLE OFF SO IT'S NOT PANDERING
and then the cycle repeats
Now that the dust has settled the cinephiles of /tv/ (I'm excluding the plebs and redditors) have realised what a failure it is as a Star Wars Movie.
it has become clear that without the artistic direction to create BOLD and CREATIVE set pieces and environments, the corporate machine of Disney have turned a once beloved Science Fantasy opera into an action film.
Their worst crime however is the way in which the new film is a simple GLIB FACSIMILE, rehashing and reusing established environments, characters and lines wherever possible.
In the few instances in which something new is introduced in the film, it has a distinct NON-STARWARSESQUE feel to it, and we of /tv/ have simple noticed.
In light of the new film we have come to realise that the Prequel trilogy, though flawed perhaps in a few scenes, are lightyears ahead of the Force Awakens both in scope and in Star Wars feeling.
>>64057829
>Or did you think Yoda whipping out a lightsaber was part of Lucas's artistic vision?
The tears streaming down the faces of the angry neckbeards at the sight of their great wise character being reduced to a video game cutscene tells me that Lucas' alienation tactic was entirely successful. I genuinely believe that Lucas saw the cultural infantilization that he had caused and used his prequel trilogy as a means to make people dislike Star Wars on every level and therefore hopefully make the lapsed fan move away from childish things and then go on to lead a respectable existence. Of course it didn't work (I'd point to the increasing acceptence of the video game medium along with the rise of the super hero movie in cinema as the reasons why) and then him handing it over to disney was an admittance of defeat. I am genuinely surprised he hasn't killed himself already. The guilt of the damage he has done to societal development has obviously taken its toll over the years.
>>64056873
No, professional reviewers. Just look at the RT scores.
>>64056473
>We're connected to the Prequels, because of Anakin and the old cast.
>Star Wars 7 is a brand new story, so it's hard for it to feel like Star Wars.
People like this post here?
>>64058022
Why did Lucas repeatedly worry about beating the financial records set by Titanic if he didn't give a shit about fan reception?
>>64058056
At this point I can't even tell if it's memeing or not
The other day I saw a post where someone said TFA lacked great characters like Mace Windu and Darth Maul
>>64058056
For five years.
>>64056202
>C3PO being built by Anakin
>All those dumb lightsaber fights
>Fucking Jango Fett
It's full of fanservice you mongoloid
>>64057907
>. Pegg worked for a goddamn comic book store and drew comics, and you expected the series to not acknowledge some geek culture?
You act as if the fact he worked in a comic book store is some organic development completely out of the control of the writers. The very fact his character had that occupation is inherent proof that the show had an agenda to normalize the infantilization of the straight white male. And it was this agenda that spun out into the infamous website itself.
>not the dumb lol random humor reddit tends to enjoy
>I always cracked up when that biker courier would blank out and start raving to random noises
Ha ha so random. LOL. You make me sick. Just read your post. You carry the reddit sensibility and don't even know it.
>Nowhere have I seen where Spaced is venerated as the inspiration for reddit.
Of course, because it's not some direct adaptation. The point is that the memes were floating around in the psychosphere. The memes that Spaced so heavily traded in were the same memes that later went on to converge and cause the creation of reddit.
>>64056838
Now this is some hot off the presses autism
>>64058092
He wanted his last ditch attack on infantilization to reach as large an audience as possible.
>>64056304
>I think it is just the fact that TFA was such a steaming pile of garbage
>>64058236
>Paying attention to the plot is autism
Get out of here, Chad.
>>64056312
Those are all things that make the prequels terrible. All those Jedi and Sith. Jesus fucking Christ are you twelve?
>>64056444
It was all cgi you were seeing nothing. Ooh the oh so memorable Jedi temple.
>>64058291
Being Chad is great and i refuse to leave your Cambodian shadow puppetry forum
>>64055838
My Dad was as big a Star Wars kid as any. He even bought a Gamecube over the PS2 despite being a Sonypony just to play Rogue Leader. While he recognizes the prequels as inferior to the original trilogy and has seen the Plinkett reviews, he still recognizes that the Prequels were genuine Star Wars movies, and he doesn't hate them.
What he did hate however, was Han Solo getting offed in such a pathetic way in TFA. It was arguably more of a fuck-up than midichlorians. If you say you hate the prequels, you are double-crossing what I assume to be your childhood, and a contrarian faggot who never truly liked Star Wars. The prequels were at their best when their existence spawned excellent video games like Kotor, Battlefront, Bounty Hunter, etc.
The only actually bad movie in the series is Episode 2, but the Prequels as a whole are not bad movies. They aren't 10/10s either, but not everything can be put on a binary scale of A) Flawless and B) Shit.
>>64057089
You're fucking nuts mate, people hated them as soon as they came out. Spaced was ragging on them in the early 00s ffs
>>64058269
Regardless of what feelings you have for the prequels, TFA is forgettable garbage.
>>64058207
The series is about trying to make it in a creative field, fuckwit. Every character was some kind of artist except that crazy army dude. So because YOU don't approve of the profession it is a shit series?
It is like trying to make the main character's profession in the Wolf of Wallstreet a chef. Doesn't make goddamn sense with the narrative.
How is the raving random humor? It is part of the character. He takes too much MDMA on the weekends and has mental problems. The writing segments show how much of a lazy fat bitch the main character is.
>Meme
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>64057089
Episode 1 and 2 both won the raspberry for worst movie the year they came out
attack of the clones got worst actor, actress and worst onscreen couple also
>>64055838
I really hope you're right. Seriously, I enjoyed The Force Awakens
Also, I'd say your pic makes me want to watch the Holiday Special, but I think once is all I can handle in a year.
Happy Life Day everyone.
>>64057477
>Pegg, Frost and Wright were always reddit actors
>Spaced released 2001
>Reddit founded 2005
CHECKS OUT
>>64057575
I didn't even know what those were until you called them separatists core ships.
>>64058207
>the reddit sensibility
TFA will not be remembered by anybody in the same way that no MCU movie is remebered by anybody. They are like annualized AAA video game released. People go and pay for their yearly call of duty/assassin's creed fix, have their disposable fun and then never think about it again.
These movies will make money but they will never impact culture on a level beyond further turning cinema into a toyline, they will never give us iconic scenes or great characters that will be remembered for decades to come. We'll have a star wars movie every year for the next 30 years and none of them will matter outside of the most recent one because those past tentpoles are no longer relevent.
>>64055838
There's probably a couple of people who are serious but it's mostly a meme
The original trilogy = 3 boring kiddie flick made for manchildren
The prequel trilogy = Highest form of art, truly the pinnacle of patrician cinema
The Disney trilogy = Same shit as the original but atleast it looks good
>>64058370
Oh shit son I didn't realise your Dad thought that. Fuck I better change my mind
>>64058207
>the show had an agenda to normalize the infantilization of the straight white male
But... you're on 4chan. You know this is for teens, right? I mean if you're over 25 and posting here then there's something fucking wrong with you
>>64058530
Now here is a 4chan opinion, no sign of reddit detected
>>64058459
"Reddit" existed before Reddit, if you can't accept that basic truth then you shouldn't even be trying to engage in any discussion here. If "Reddit" didn't exist in some capacity before Reddit then where exactly did Reddit come from?
Offical power ratings
Episode II: truly the greatest piece of cinema ever made (thank you george) 10/10
Episode I: Not as good as II but still a cinematic masterpiece 9/10
Episode III: Great movie but too much edgy gritty emo shit 8/10
now for the bad part
Episode IV: Boring kid flick 4/10
Episode VI: Not as bad as IV but still really boring 5/10
Episode V: One of the worst movies ever made overrated shit praised by manchildrens 1/10
Episode VII: Disney cashgrab literally NEW HOPE 2.0, literally 0 soul...George would be ashamed 3/10
>>64058535
You already have. I used the force and stuff.
>>64058414
I don't think you know what meme means.
What the fuck did i just watch? no seriously, what the fuck?
i dont know where to start with this monstrosity of a flick. if it wasn't for the obvious faces and lightsabers it would just be the usual high budget flick with the thinking that fancy effects and explosions will make a 'movie' good. fucking wrong.
i couldnt tell if it was at the start, beginning or end due to the lack of structure and plot - infact im still struggling to see what the plot was? the whole thing dragged out to see some old fuck standing on the cliffs - greeeaat.
what really fucking me off was how they mocked the dark side to be a laughing stock. that pathetic joke making the clone troopers run away when kylo was throwing a tantrum.
-kylo was meant to be the evil sith boss but actually got KILLED by a girl using a lightsaber for the FIRST FUCKING TIME. the fucking dindu put up a good fight, they both have zero fucking knowledge in using one, let alone the force in general. what the fuck?
how can anyone possible criticise the prequels with pieces of liberal shit like this one? there were no characters in TFA with any presence, or something that made you think 'wow i like this guy'. the prequels had mace windu, anakin, obi wan, darth vader, darth maul, etc. what did this one have? the characters were fucking dull as fuck, im actually angry as im typing this i just cant get over what i just watched and i need to vent it somewhere.
trust disney to fuck up this bad. i dont even need to mention (but i will anyway) the obvious racism with the dark side being all white, and the 'goodies' being a melting pot of spics, chinks, dindus, females etc. how can this racism even be allowed?
sadly ticket sales determine the success of a film, and so people will feel obligated to think this flick was good but in reality it was tediously boring, which lacked a plot, characters with any redeeming qualities, and made the dark side a joke.
>>64058741
I know senpai we've all realised how good the prequels are now
>>64058530
Best post ITT
>>64057361
>nostalgia pornography.
You realize Star Wars is nostalgia pornography to the old sci-fi serials like Flash Gordon, right?
>>64058950
Making the prequel trilogy the least pornographic part of the saga.
>disney shills scrambling to bash the prequels at every turn
If you memesters aren't just being contrarians, explain how the prequels are patrician while the OT is pleb when they're so similar fundamentally.
>>64058647
Yes, it is a behavior or saying that spreads within a certain group. I'm struggling to understand d what reddit meme you say Spaced is directly related to.
Someone earlier said it justifies not becoming an adult. Since when did comedy series use its characters as inspiration for self-improvement?
>>64058741
THEY MADE FUN OF MY DARK SIDE BUDDIES MOM PLS TELL THEM TO STOP THEY ARE COOL THE BADDEST IN THE UNIVERSE SO EVIL NOTHING CAN STOP THEM PLS
>>64059356
So when Spaced wallows in the meme that it is acceptable for an adult male to consume infantile media and that meme goes on to be a cornerstone of the reddit lifestyle then how is it inappropriate to call Spaced proto-reddit media? How is the use of the term "meme" inaccurate?
>>64057443
>In two months nobody will be talking about TFA
Screen cap this post and check in two months bud
>>64056949
I fucking hate /tv/ so much.
>I can appreciate the prequels and what Lucas did for them
This is fucking retarded
>I dont like sand
>>64055838
>newfound
>>64058606
"Reddit" in that sense was completely identical to early 4chan.
>>64057443
>In two months, nobody will be talking about The Force Awakens.
Go to the doctor and have them check you for downs.
>>64055838
ROTS was crap.
Clones was not so much crap.
Phantom was good.
>>64060915
4chan grew up and realized that cultural war against infantilization had to be instigated. Reddit continued to walllow in their filth.
>>64059703
>>64060999
What's there to talk about when it comes to The Force Awakens? What is interesting about it?
>>64061141
How can we wage this war?
>>64056394
>> Casts no white males in new leads
"Its milquetoast, vanilla pandering bullshit!"
Just admit that you're a biggot already.
>>64058741
Sir this is 4chan. Stormfront is across the street.
