> implying he wasnt the scariest piece of shit in all the SW franchise until he took off the helmet
>>64041858
It's a good thing he took it off. I kept getting reminded of Revan every time this guy was on screen.
>>64041858
I mean he was just kind of "generic sith lord" before but yeah when he took off the mask I almost audibly scoffed. I didn't know the flashback version of snape where he's getting bullied by harry potter's dad in high school was supposed to pass for menacing villain now.
>>64041858
it just kept getting better when he took off the mask.easily the best new character but Rey....fucking females MC
>>64041858
Everyone cared who I was until I took off the mask.
I think we were meant to feel surprised at the pathetic guy under the mask.
All the more better if he goes through decent development throughout the next couple of movies.
>>64042026
He's not supposed to be menacing. He's a child trying to be hardcore.
>>64041858
>forgetting about clone wars grievous
there was one thing they did with him I thought was neat. As he got progressively angrier towards the end the hallway shots of his face got lower and lower and the thud of his boots got louder. Was a nice touch
>>64042105
But his mom won't let him.
>>64042026
Thats the point.
>>64042105
that'd be fine if he was smoking cigarettes but hemurdered his dad. Is it so unreasonable, at that point, to expect at least a bit of being genuinely hardcore
>>64041922
Apparently his lightsaber is based off the Great Scourge of Malachor.
I'm calling it now, they'll talk about Revan in the next movie, or Rey will turn out to be the descendant of Revan.
>>64042187
They made Darth Bane canon so it would pretty sweet if they made Revan cannon too. Honestly there is a lot of good shit in the EU, there is so much material there for the taking I'd be shocked if they manage to fuck up the next two movies. I also heard a rumour that Admiral Thrawn might make an appearance.
>>64042167
Yes. Pretty much every scene where he loses his shit and throws a tantrum is meant to enforce this. He wants to be Darth Vader, but can't quite cut it.
I think him being a temper tantrum throwing brat is okay, but the whole arc where it will be about his redemption is just too dated at this point. What else is there to make? A death star that destroys 10 planets instead of 5?
I need a pic of drivers face at the end of the movie. Anyone have a cap?
>>64043008
What scene exactly? The one where he'sscarred by Rey?
>>64043008
I appreciate what they did with his character but I wish he wore the mask for some other reason besides 'because it's spoopy'
>>64043328
>I'm in charge here!
>>64043328
Fuck, I missed that his face got fucked.
>>64042187
They will not directly use or reference any EU material, they are just cannibalising it for their own purposes. Ren is Revan + Jacen.
>>64042110
clone wars grievous was such a monster
>>64043328
>what kinda duel you want, f a m
>just fuck my face up
>>64043404
>I wish he wore the mask for some other reason besides 'because it's spoopy'
You know knights used to wear full face helmets to armor themselves and it wasn't about being spooky.
>>64043609
Yeah, I noticed that too. The fact they mention Malachor and the Great Scourge of it though (i.e. Revan) implies they'll do something with it. The fact Kylo partially looks like Revan and has a saber like him implies he found something out about him, and is copying him in the same way he's also copying Vader.
>>64043678
Well, at best he'll just be briefly mentioned like Plagueis in the Prequels. You have to bear in mind that the name Revan is meaningless to the vast majority of the audience. If they actually wanted to use him they'd have to make him a MC.
>>64043678
>The fact they mention Malachor and the Great Scourge
Wait when?
>>64043743
>Well, at best he'll just be briefly mentioned like Plagueis in the Prequels.
Basically what I expect. Ren will mention him off-hand or something, as a little nod to KOTOR fans, and introduce him briefly like Plagueis, as you said. Personally, I think that would be the only good way to do it.
>>64043773
They mention in the Force Awakens visual dictionary about it:
http://star-wars-canon.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Scourge_of_Malachor
Not much to go on, but it does imply a lot of things.
>>64043773
>>64043920
sauce?
>>64043920
>The dark side flows through Kylo Ren, making him an almost unstoppable force on the field of battle. Hi reflexes and telekinetic defenses are immense
>He is also a master of telepathic intrusion, using the ability to coerce or torment his prisoners
>an almost unstoppable force
>reflexes and telekinetic defenses are immense
>a master of telepathic intrusion
>>64044062
How is Rey not a mary sue?
>>64041858
Just why?
Did they feel the urge to cast physically retarded people for this movie and go full SJW? Why did it have to be Star Wars of all big franchises? Meanwhile every Star Trek actor is a 10/10 demigod.
>>64044062
Well to be fair, his reflexes were pretty good. He caught that blaster bolt from Poe.
>>64042110
Prequels had some pretty awesome things. I doubt the new trilogy will be better.
I shouldn't care what the majority thinks, though, seeing how 7 is mediocre at best and has a 9 on IMDB. This is beyond ridiculous.
>>64044020
Got it somewhere here in /tv/. But it's a legit cap from the dictionary
>>64044134
And beat Rey within two seconds with force powers. And then couldn't beat her and had weaker force powers 30 minutes later.
Such a pile of shit of a movie.
>>64044213
>just murdered his own dad
>took a bowcaster blast to the gut without armor
>got cut up by finns lightsabering
>hurr durr why his power weaker lolfam wtf jj a hack
>>64044213
>sent Rey flying with his force powers
>get his ass kicked 10 min later
Fuck you and your Mary Sue, JJ
>>64044195
can't find the complete thing online...
>>64042110
was da best
>>64044142
butthurt prequel redditor btfo
prequels are trash and you know it
>>64044325
>prequels are trash and you know it
So is TFA.
>>64044271
He hadn't murdered anyone or been shot when this "master of of telepathic intrusion" got overcome by a little girl in the interrogation room.
>>64044343
TFA is a good movie. not great, just good.
Prequels are not even close to being watchable.
>>64044345
You stupid fuck you have literally no ability to interpret allegory.
>>64044390
So why should anyone be excited about a remake that's worse than the original? Why not just watch the original?
>>64044454
Because its not a remake, but keep saying it is and maybe you'll believe it.
>>64044454
Because its not a remake you autistic faggot.
>>64044474
Have you even seen both ANH and TFA?
>>64044393
kek sure thing bro, this children's movie about space wizards is so sophisticated I just don't get it.
>>64044499
POETRY
>>64044499
>get rekt
>i-its just a k-kids movie anyway!!
oh look its grandmas boy
>>64044345
>a little girl
>20 year old with latent force powers
you just want another vader LMAO
>>64044496
Its a sequel to the OT not a remake.
>>64044571
Everyone else needed training to effectively use the force. Why is she so special? Did she use her tiny amount of training she may or may not have gotten from Luke when she was a small child that she completely forgot about to defeat Space Jesus's grandson who is older and has much more training and experience?
>>64044499
Its a family movie m8 not a kids movie.
>>64042105
yes
>>64044663
Lucas has said time and time again that he made SW for children.
>>64043920
>Accusing finger reinforces unquestioned authority
>Hand gestures help visualize force techniques
are you cereal?
>>64044650
>Why is she so special
born from a lineage with piss easy force usage
either luke or sheev
anakin won pod racing when he was 9
>>64044675
Lucas doesn't matter anymore
>>64042026
Congratulations, that was the point.
Kylo is a punk bitch who wears the mask to be intimidating. He wants to be hardcore but the force won't let him
You watched the fucking movie, it should be obvious
>>64044650
this
thats the biggest problem I had with the movie. Shitty but trained force/saber user beats an powerful but untrained one everytime. Hell using a saber untrained usually means you will kill yourself with it.
>>64044704
>anakin won pod racing when he was 9
You mean Kylo Ren's granddad?
>>64044704
>anakin won pod racing when he was 9
Anakin was born through virgin birth and was the strongest force user that existed in the galaxy.
>>64044650
Anakin blew up a space station as a little kid. Its not that far fetched that a force sensitive girl can resist some mind reading or whatever. I dont think he even used mind reading on anyone else force sensitive in the movie either.
>>64044767
>people will defend this shit
fuck lucas
>>64044731
He was injured pretty badly in that scene though. i thought they made that obvious to the audience. also it didn't seem like he was trying to kill her he wanted to turn her to the dark side.
>>64044775
So Rey is as powerful as Anakin? How is that possible unless she was born of the force like he was?
>>64044848
how do u know she wasnt
>>64044821
agreed, and yes he was injured and it was obvious...I was speaking in general though it seemed a bit much. Like Krillin beating Goku...he might get a good shot in, but thats it.
>>64044865
If she was how could SW fanboys keep insisting the new flicks aren't completely unoriginal remakes?
>>64044848
I would say rey is more powerful than toddler anakin yes.
>>64044959
Neither Rey or young Anakin had any proper training. The difference is Anakin is a much stronger force user and it's even explained in TPM that Anakin is ridiculously strong. Rey is a cookie cutter mary sue. Shes flawless only because it's 2015 and she has a vagina.
>>64044908
because you're a cuck
>>64044142
Name one good thing about the prequels. JJ played it safe because no one gives a flying fuck about Darth Vader when he was 7 years old. No one asked for the prequels. George is so autistic he thought it was a good idea
>>64045068
You're the one jizzing yourself over a movie made by a jew using no original ideas for the soul purpose of making billions of dollars off toy sales to children.
>>64045033
I thought they were heavily implying that Rey has had previous force training.
>>64045139
Maybe a year or two of training when she was a toddler that she completely forgot about? Yeah i'm sure that explains away all the shitty writing...
>>64045130
redditor spotted
>>64045206
manchildren redditors are the target demographic for SW.
>>64045222
Then why didnt you like it?
>>64045222
Star Wars are family movies. they are made for families to go see them together and have both the children and adults enjoy the movie.
>>64045349
All childrens movies can be called "family movies". Someone has to take the kids to the theater to watch them.
>>64041858
I'm sick of the "le spooky mask man" persona some villains have. it was refreshing to see just an angry "kid" behind the mask. Rey sliced his face too so he has a nice scar now.
>>64045378
I guess so but the point is they make it appeal to adults as well.
>trying to read my mind huh
>well,hear this
>YOU WILL NEVER BE STRONGER THAN VADER
>NNOOOOO!
Just what the hell was this scene, it was random as fuck
>Harrison Ford
One of the most handsome men in Hollywood history
>Princess Leica
Hot chick
>Their kid
Fucking ugly crippled Snape thing
>>64041858
You literally wanted a rehash of Vader
