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>>63930550
no the prequels are shit m8
almost as bad as ep7
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>This board is so contrarian that prequel apologists are now commonplace
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>>63930550
y-yes ;_;
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No
Kill yourself contrarian aspie
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>>63930550

No, contrarians need to die.
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I like Liam and Ewan and Jewslut.

But no you three "films" can fuck off back to hellywood.
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even if you remove all of the really bad scenes in those movies you will still have more substance than in the latest movie

heck even a CG laden establishing shot of naboo had more personality
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>lens flare in the posters
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>>63930615
Its just easy bait. No one actually likes the prequels, they just like the attention people give them for pretending to like the prequels.

see also; watchmen

inb4 bait
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>>63930615
>>63930661
>>63930683
Hello reddit

Reminder that hating the prequels = reddit
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>>63930550
why is boba fett such a prominent figure on ep2 poster
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>>63930755
...are you serious
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>>63930728
people like some of the prequels concepts and ideas, and individual scenes. it's not ironic.

the problem is that that's too subtle for /tv/ where all that matters is how much you'd give a film overall out of 10.
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>>63930741
Reminder to kill yourself
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>>63930714
POTTERY
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>>63930830
Reminder to donate to RLM patreon, cuck
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>>63930550
Only memorable one is Episode III. If the prequel trilogy would have started with that movie, it would have been awesome in my opinion. The time jumps got in the way of immersing me into the movies, whereas the OG trilogy took place in what, five years time? I didn't give a fuck about little Annie, but adult Anakin was way more interesting.
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>>63930819
maybe
it's been over a decade since i last watched prequel
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>>63930861
>people hate the prequel because of plinkett reviews
Are you literally 12
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if you like star wars for the sci fi elements and concepts then liking the prequels is not contrarian

everyone agrees the dialogue was general acting was bad, but the general worlds and environment were interesting and gave far more thought provoking elements than TFA
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>>63930550

Ep II is the best movie in whole series.
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>>63930879
ok well,
1) its not boba fett, its Jango fett
2) he's important because is the prototype for all clone troopers
3) he fights obi wan
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>>63930741

I don't hate them, but they are the definition of mediocre.
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>>63930550
>jar jar literally in the same place that sheev is later on

damn... so reddit was right once more
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so i just re-watched the prequels and i have to say these actually get a lot of undeserved hate. you can tell there was love and craft put into these worlds. varied creatures, some of the most alien and beautiful worldbuilding i've ever seen. yeah the script is bad but holy shit these settings and designs are beautiful. these are a work of a man who cares deeply for star wars.

>phantom menace
character design - 10/10
world building - 10/10
plot - 7/10

>clone
character design - 9/10
world building - 10/10
plot - 5/10

>sith
character design - 10/10
world building - 10/10
plot - 7/10

i would rank them above TFA, below the OT.
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>>63931122
>unintentionally funny or painful to watch
>mediocre
you don't know what mediocre means nigga
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>>63931170
> get a lot of undeserved hate.
They don't get enough hate for how shitty they are. You know fuck-all about movies if you think otherwise.
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The only one i really dislike is Ep 2.

1 isnt too bad, and its only major problem is Jar Jar. And 3 is great for Sheev memes.
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>>63931226

yeah bud i watched the plinkett reviews too...
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>>63931226
ughhh, try again sweetie, I majored in film studies
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god, fucking,
hell no
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>>63931272
>majored in film studies
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>>63931257
>>63931272
contrarian: n. a person who expresses a contradicting viewpoint, especially one who denounces the majority persuasion
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>>63931170
what i'm curious about is who was responsible for all of that stuff? (character design & world building) it couldnt have been all lucas

why couldnt those people have been on the new movie, i really felt like the world building and design was greatly lacking

we got a few unremarkable planets, lazy pallete swapped designs, and a handful of aliens that didnt stick with you
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>>63931257
Plinkett review doesn't even nitpick enough. There's way more you could say about it.
Get cancer and die prequel apologist.
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>>63931364
>Majored in film studies

>STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE

>wheres my Woody Allen t-shirt cum rag?

Well figure me surprised.
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>>63931337
ughhh fuck off right wing kuck, I have a right to my own opinion
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>>63931170
>>63931360
>character design
>the queen is a fucking geisha
>everybody wears robes
>anakin wears dark robes because get it, dark side, GET IT???

You retards are easily impressed.
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>>63931424
>you like to watch your wife have sex with other men if you don't share my objectively bad opinion
How does it feel to have a less substantial opinion than a Family Guy cutaway gag?
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>>63931364
>doesn't nitpick
>makes fun of obi-wan talking about a pit of gundarks
>gundarks were first mentioned in Empire Strikes Back
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>>63931417
Are you saying you majored in film studies? Do you think that validates your shitty opinion?
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>>63930550
>There are people rigth now, in this board that believe ep7 was ok.
I want redditors to leave!!!
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>>63930550
Prequels were good, and so is Episode VII.
Get your heads out your ass and stop saying everything is shit just because you didn't see it as a kid
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>>63931566
You forgot
>enough
Reading is hard
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>>63931574
No i didn't. Lived with 2 who did though. Literally the most pretentious fart sniffers ive ever encountered.
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>>63931514
ummm I didn't mean kuck literally you dumbwit
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>>63931688
So everybody who you disagree with is a film student?
Also who are you to call anyone pretentious when you like the fucking prequel trilogy?
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>>63931475
>2 examples of things you dont like

>movies filled with tons of designs that lived on in things like The Clone Wars, which people tend to like generally overall

also geisha or not the original red dress queen design is far more iconic than shit like silver storm trooper
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>>63931728
No. Read the post fuck wit. Im refering to the person who said they had studied film.

I dont particularly like it. I think its a cop-out when sci-fi has to resort to magic in order to add capeshit. I just wouldn't turn it off if it was on the telly.

>EUGH, PLEB. I DONT CARE IF YOUR IN THE LIVINGROOM MUM. TURN IT OFF. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Literally you.
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>>63930550
No, fuck you prequels.

THANK YOU BASED JJ STARS WARS IS BACK
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Only Sheev
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>>63931127
>Sam Jackson's hair
what!?
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V - IV - VI - III - I - II - VII
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>>63931272

I majored in film critique and you're opinion is incorrect.
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>>63930550
What's with the black dude at the bottom of the Episode I poster?
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>>63931820
>Im refering to the person who said they had studied film.
And who the fuck would that be because you've only been responding to me
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someone needs to edit Jar Jar binks in the george W. Bush pose that were on a bunch of tshirts at the mall when a black guy became president.
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>>63930708
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>>63930550
Tv is a literal shitting ground for faggots. Sorry nothing is patrician. Nope, nothing is. Sorry. If it were I doubt it would apply to your flicks.
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>>63931931
I majored in shitposting and your opinion is correct
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>>63931947
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>>63930550
Nope.
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>>63931974
He's right. TFA is shit.
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>>63932029
i'm sure your opinion is based solely on the quality of the movie and has nothing to do with the director or the cast at all
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>>63931360
>it couldnt have been all lucas
This is why prequel haters are so gullible and down right retarded. Lucas was in charge of everything in the prequels, including creature and planet design. It was all his.
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>>63930550
>episode 1
>1 lightsaber on poster
>episode 2
>2 lightsabers on poster
>episode 3
>4 lightsabers on poster

Lucas missed out on some quality POTTERY right there.
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>>63932000
>Top trips, Dibner lad
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Just to say that this contains spoilers.
But they're not really spoilers since Episode 7 is just a re-hash of Episode 4. If you've seen Episode 4, this is nothing new and you've basically seen the movie before.


>>63930550
I have to say the prequel trilogy had a good STORY it was just not EXECUTED that well.

there was also too much CGI, too many wooden performances (perhaps due to trying to act in front of greenscreen constantly).

But the actual story was sound - the fall of Anakin to the Dark Side. The Clone Wars had also been discussed in Episode 4 so it wasn't just made up , the back story existed.

Whereas this Episode 7 is a poor story, well executed.

There's just so much wrong with this movie.
Aside from the fact it was essentially a re-make of Episode 4, lets look at some other things.

-Where did the New Order come from? I thought the Rebellion won the war and crated the New Republic.
How could anyone challenge the New Republic? And secretly build a death star 10x as big that can destroy whole systems?
And how and why, even if they did make such a station, would they make it with the same flaws as the original Death Star?

why did the random girl at the start suddenly become a JEDI who can BEAT THE GRANDCHILD OF ANAKIN SKYWALKER in a laser sword fight LITERALLY LIKE 12 HOURS after EVEN DOING ANYTHING OF ANY NOTE WHATSOEVER IN HER WHOLE LIFE??

I know Kylo Ren had been shot but COME THE FUCK ON. Total Deus Ex Machina.

Why did Han Solo die? It's well accepted in the canon that Chewbacca dies saving Wookiees on an exploding planet. Yet they reverse this and make Han die - why?
I tried to like this movie but it's just a pile of shit.

hopefully the Episode 8 has some NEW FUCKIN CONCEPTS and does something with them, because this was just pish to be honest
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>>63931922
I would say:

III > IV > V> VI > I > II >>>>>>>> VII
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>>63932118
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lucas is a hack jj is a hack

prequels shit
ot shit
you're shit fuck off and die
storm trooper only redeeming factor in this semen slurping film series
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>>63930615
I saw a episode 1-3 megacut the other day and i actually liked it. it covers a lot in 2h15m but its all there
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>>63932130
>-Where did the New Order come from? I thought the Rebellion won the war and crated the New Republic.
Empire was fractured, part of the empire gained power through Snoke and his shit, he absorbed other parts of the old Empire, now they're big guys.
>How could anyone challenge the New Republic?
Because the NR are still pussies etc.? Everything is "democratic" and shit so anything that happens is slow as fuck.
>And secretly build a death star 10x as big that can destroy whole systems?
Easiest explanation would be: "space technology to hide it" or something.
>And how and why, even if they did make such a station, would they make it with the same flaws as the original Death Star?
Honestly didn't even like the whole part with the planet fucking being a massive Death Star, felt lazy just having one and then at the rebel base when they show the size comparison everyone there is like "oh gee, whadda we gonna do now folks?" I'm guessing the weakness would have some boring explanation like cooling or whatever? Who cares, the idea itself was lazy to begin with. When the general guy has that speech, what they should have done is had it be an invasion of some important Republic planet or something, and then the final part of the movie would take place there among the fighting etc. not yet another Death Star.
>why did the random girl at the start suddenly become a JEDI who can BEAT THE GRANDCHILD OF ANAKIN SKYWALKER in a laser sword fight LITERALLY LIKE 12 HOURS after EVEN DOING ANYTHING OF ANY NOTE WHATSOEVER IN HER WHOLE LIFE??
Serious question: Did you watch the movie?
1. Kylo just killed his own father. He could barely even do it.
2. He got shot in the side by a blaster.
3. Finn did some damage to him.
4. He hasn't even fully finished his training.
So you're asking: how could a mentally unstable, severely injured, inexperienced Sith lose to a girl who's well and has had to fight throughout her life to survive as a scavenger? Gee, beats me, man.
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>>63932130
>Why did Han Solo die? It's well accepted in the canon that Chewbacca dies saving Wookiees on an exploding planet. Yet they reverse this and make Han die - why?
Because Kylo needed to kill someone important from his old life to affirm his belief that joining the dark side was the right choice. Guy is asking his dead grandfather's mask for help to stay strong because the light side is still pulling at him.
No idea what the Chewbacca shit is though.
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>>63930550

7 was amazing stop trying so hard.
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>>63932130
>he doesn't know that force guides lighsaber user's hand

If you don't know something like that no wonder you have so many questions. I suggest reading some SW books, it explains shit better.
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>>63932130
>I have to say the prequel trilogy had a good STORY
Exactly, what destroyed the prequels was the immense cringe watching little/old Anakin, Jar Jar Binks and Padmé Amidala.

In TFA I had this cringe ALL THE FUCKING TIME (except the first scene with Max von Sydow)

WTF
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>>63932696
>I suggest reading some SW books, it explains shit better.
>reading some SW books
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>>63932130
>-Where did the New Order come from? I thought the Rebellion won the war and crated the New Republic.

Where did ISIS come for? Where did whoever is in charge of Lybia come for after Gaddafi was kill? Etc etc.
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>>63930550

absolutely not, i'm even more mad now that Ep VII is released, they are three wasted films

fuck
the
prequels
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>>63932763
Easiest way to tell if someone doesn't have argument is when he tries a counterargument with memes. Another advice.
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>>63932823
>Another advice.
What advice?
But no come on now, reading SW books? Maybe comics would be fun if you like comics, but other than that screw it.
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>>63932909
What's wrong with SW books? For example first two Bane books?
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>>63930550
Jar Jar is a sith lord
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>>63932770
Did the First Order have some sort of truce with the New Republic? Can't remember that the relationship between those factions was explained in the movie
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>>63932130
completely agree

the prequels presented interesting charaters in an interesting setting but unfortunatley were overshadowed by the mechanics of the movies (acting, dialogue, special effects)

TFA had all the polish and looks of a great film but seemed to lack any of the thought behind the characters or setting, leading to all these questions. a lot of character development felt rushed in order to get to the next fan service scene
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>>63930755
That's Jango Fett
HOLY FUCK DID ANYONE ON THIS BOARD EVEN WATCH THE DAMN MOVIES
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>>63933018
I don't know. But they go full "republic are traitors, bad guys etc". They will probably pull that Bane card where Senat doesn't give a fuck about planets on the perimeter who get exploited by rich and influential fucks who are good with the Senat. If they try to explain it at all.
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>>63933049
>the prequels presented interesting charaters

It had worse love story, acting and characters than Twilight. SW fanbase is going full Zelda circle now.
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>>63930615
good evening, reddit!

If you use the word "contrarian," you're literally an idiot. It's an invented concept by idiots with reddit sensibilities who are too fragile to deal with criticism of mediocre media that has widespread appeal.

It's a troubling manifestation of millennials' mental weakness. Seriously, the only people who would even entertain any "argument" involving the concept of being "contrarian" are weak, lazy idiots who can't deal with criticism substantively.

If it bothers you that much that people criticize mediocre mass-marketed work designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, like Star Wars, Breaking Bad, pop music, etc., you should find a safe bubble and stay there. Or kill yourself.
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>>63933141
a love story is not a character
acting is not a character

people are ok with young anakin

even if you throw away padme/amidala as a shit char there were a lot of other characters that people liked, even if it was just out of sheer volume of new characters introduced
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>>63933691
>people are ok with young anakin

Always fascinating to see Zelda circle in real life. People are so funny sometimes.
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>>63933049
>interesting charaters
Name literally one that doesn't also appear in the original trilogy
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>>63933049

>interesting charaters
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SPOILER

>>63932473

Again, some spoilers.


Who is Snoke? Could at a little backstory had been given for the likes of Snoke and Kylo Ren? I know Solo and Leia had children who were force-sensitive and in many books one of them turns dark. Many people don't know that. But it all wasn't explained, even for ardent fans like myself.

It still doesn't make sense why they would build a new space station. Even so the Empire was defeated, so... ? But anyway, it's just lazy so they could have another Death Star trench run trying to save a Rebel base on a jungle planet while 30 X Wings bravely blow up a death star - only after Han Solo, Chewbacca et al have disabled the shield, of course, (All while evading the dark lord guy in the black mask!!) -- Familiar, anyone?
The Starkiller was just so they could re hash Episode 4. Its just lame as fuck. Imagine fucking Radiohead released a new album and every song was musically similar to OK Computer. You'd be like, well, I like OK Computer but come on guys, can you do anything new?

Yes dude I watched the movie, geez-o,

I'll try and answer your points.

1, He had done that, yes. But he had been leading up to that moment for a long time. If anything that could channel MORE dark side power, a la Anakin and the Tusken raiders.

(Also : epic showdown between father and son on a bridge over an abyss, familiar anyone? Yeah...)

2, Yes I say he got shot by the crossbow blaster which packs a punch. But doesn't he have armour, etc, isn't he 1337 anyway, cant he force-heal or some shit maybe?
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>>63932473
and this is the second half apparently comment was too long, wtf?


3, Finn is a total knobjockey and his fight scene with Kylo Ren was even more farcical than Ray's. I disregard that entirely. If that stormtrooper with a laser baton can own Finn in a fight, then Kylo Ren can wipe his ass all over the floor, even after getting shot.

4, Neither had Anakin when he beat Count Dooku, a Sith Lord who fought off Yoda.

It was farcical and a plot hole cover because they had to have Finn and Ray escape that scene but had to have Kylo Ren there too. It was ridiculous. They could've made a big explosion distract Ren or something. The fact they made them fight is just fucking dumb, man/

Also :

Ren could've force-thrown them, force-choked them, force-disarmed them, why doesnt he?

And HOW THE FUCK can an UNTRAINED newly-discovered Jedi :

-Perform a Jedi Mind Trick - only Jedi Masters have ever been shown doing this.
-Hold off a Sith apprentice with a lightsaber
-Force-grab a lightsaber from c. 20 yards, a feat that took Luke Skywalker all his energy to accomplish in Episode 5 on Hoth, and even so she did this WHILE a sith Apprentice was also pulling at it?

Just fucking plain stupid.
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>>63934235
You can't force heal with dark side. And it's hard even for a skilled Jedi.
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Fuck is this supposed to be Sam Jackson?
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>>63934279
>And HOW THE FUCK can an UNTRAINED newly-discovered Jedi :
>-Perform a Jedi Mind Trick - only Jedi Masters have ever been shown doing this.
>-Hold off a Sith apprentice with a lightsaber
>-Force-grab a lightsaber from c. 20 yards, a feat that took Luke Skywalker all his energy to accomplish in Episode 5 on Hoth, and even so she did this WHILE a sith Apprentice was also pulling at it?

Because she is really strong in the force? Shit like that was nothing in TOR for example.
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kek there are a lot of people trying to defend this idiotic and boring movie
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Fuck, Padme looks so hot in the Attack of the Clones poster

I want to make everything right with her ;__;
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>>63934418
R2 turns on, why?
Millennium Falcon is right there, ready for escape, why?
Luke's Lightsaber, why?
Fin crashes right next to Rey's hometown from orbit, how?
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>>63930615
/thread
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>>63930741
>I'm so autistic, my opinions are shaped based on what my little faggot internet friends say is a shit website.

Kill yourself
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>>63930550
No the movies are legitimate garbage.

TFA's flaws are minor quibbles only nerds care about. These movies were fundamentally, irredeemably broken.

You reminded me the posters were beautiful though.
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>>63934817
>R2 turns on, why?
He senses force in new chick or felt Luke's after he found out Han was dead (with force).
>Millennium Falcon is right there, ready for escape, why?
Why not?
>Luke's Lightsaber, why?
Luke is a Jedi who used a Lighsaber. It's a traditional weapon for force users.
>Fin crashes right next to Rey's hometown from orbit, how?
Good luck. Just like Luke was lucky for Yoda to live just enough to give him all training.
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>>63934974

its the force
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>tfw star wars is now owned by the real life empire
>tfw star wars will never have this much heart or soul ever again and has just become a product to milk and cash in as much as possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs

george is the hero we didn't deserve
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>>63935023
Welcome to Star Wars.
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>>63934974
Nice try, troll.

Or were you being serious?

Pahahahahaha.
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>>63935209
Nice try, troll.

Or were you being serious?

Pahahahahaha.
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>>63930550
>posting movie posters prominently featuring Padme and Anakin

You are literally making Rey and Finn more likable every second someone looks at those.

A sperglord might whine about Finn asking Rey if she had a boyfriend not making sense, but that half minute of dialogue was infinitely more bearable than the forty minutes of "romantic" scenes Padme and Anakin had across the prequel trilogy.
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>Ok Natalie, pretend there's a robot midwife floating above you saying ''OOBA OOBA'', and you're in great pain. And action!
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>>63935582
Herschlag was so shit in that film but I can't blame her.
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>>63935172
nah I don't buy it
They used the force as an excuse for a very bad story and a childish attempt to push their sjw agenda.
It worked in the 70s because pop culture was something new but today you need more character development.
That's why tv series are much better these days because they have time to develop their stories.
Cinema has served its purpose.

case fucking closed
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>>63935779
Nah, you are wrong and I am right.

Case closed :)
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>>63935779
>They used the force as an excuse for a very bad story and a childish attempt to push their sjw agenda.
>It worked in the 70s

Yeah, lemme tell ya, that one female character everyone called princess not hanging out the window of the Death Star wailing "HELP ME HELP ME" and that one black guy who betrayed his white friend sure advanced all them civil rights causes.

I bet if Finn had been shuffling and jiving around going "MEESA OWE MASSA POE MEESA LIFE!" and Rey's first on-screen appearance had been the line "Help me, [insert white guy's name here], you're my only hope," everyone would have been calling it a masterpiece of modern cinema.
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>>63934279
I thought Ren was toying with Finn. As soon as Finn lands a lucky hit Ren ends the fight in like 10 seconds. He could have done that at any point he just wanted to have some fun.
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So, how does the elective loli queen system actually work in Naboo? Was the only point of it to establish some "royal blood" for Leia through pottery?
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>>63936138
Jesus, are you foaming at your mouth right now?
Liberals are literally loosing their minds these days...
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>>63936138
Lando and Leia were some honorable and strong, self-concious characters.
Lando was a criminal just like Solo who faced an ethical question when he dealed with Vader.
He later regretted his decision, freed Han and became a general of the rebellion just like him.
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>>63932086
I feel like you're baiting, but on the off chance you aren't, Lucas was definitely in charge of all the designs but he certainly didn't come up with all of it himself. He would give his team of concept artists vague descriptions of what he wanted, they would draw some shit, and he would put what he liked in the movies. Seriously, all he really did was look at a bunch of pictures and say "Yes, yes, no, no, yes"
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>>63931127
who's the black hooded bloke at the bottom of ep 1's poster?
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>>63936611
Lucas didn't redo the shit out of a minor Lando scene for decades because he was afraid of how he might come across.

ps han shot first
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