I'll start:
Cut the Rathtar scene to give the film some much-needed breathing room. Maybe use this time to chat while the Falcon is in hyperspace; this would also give the film a sense of scale and grandeur that just wasn't there.
Ditch the whole Death Star clone and instead make the movie solely about both sides trying to track down Skywalker. In the end it is Rey who finds him, after the Force 'awakens' within her.
Your turn.
give phasma more screentime
More time devoted to Finn deciding to leave the Order/wanting to help Poe escape
Make Phasma the comic relief
more darth bane
>>63892088
keep dumb niggers from speaking, chain them up, have them hold bananas instead of light sabers.
24/10 would pay money to see again
>>63892195
>woman in charge
>completely fucks up and ruins everything
>literally thrown in the dumpster
her story was wrapped up pretty nicely 2bh
>>63892088
Just take KOTOR 1 and make it into a movie.
There, its that fucking easy.
Kill Chewie, Han, and the Falcon at once, in some sacrficial move.
>>63892088
Both of those are spot on.
Also give Rey some time to fail and grow as a character. The Mary-Sue argument is valid in her case. Having a character face adversity and overcome is, like, the most obvious hero cue imaginable, but she was just 100% good at everything she tried, it made her harder to relate to than Finn or Han.
We needed more Maz too. She wasn't as awkward as everyone was acting like she was going to be (loved the magnifying goggles), and maybe a longer exchange between her and Rey about the nature of the Force would've been great. Plus that "Who are you?" "I'm no one" should have been in the movie. Maz could've responded to Rey's comment by saying something along the lines of "I've been alive for a thousand years and let me tell you, no one is truly no one".
>>63892088
Cancel production and burn all footage.
>>63892304
>she was literally beaten and kidnapped by Kylo
do you hate women because you've never touched a vagina, anon?
>>63892304
>no one is truly no one
But only a Sith deals in absolutes!
Your points are good.
The pacing, along with everything else, takes a nose dive after Jakku.
Raiders of the Lost Ark is perfect example of a brilliant seemless adventure movie and yet there are very deliberate slowed down sequences of the movie where Indy is just talking to Brody or Marion or Sallah or Belloq. These create anticipation for the flashier scenes to come. They stop the audience from tiring of the constant running and screaming.
TFA doesn't have enough of these scenes and because of it, the movie has an overly kinetic feel. There isn't enough relaxed moments for the characters to develop natural relationships with each other. So you end up with weird disjointed bonds between characters like Han's sudden and immediate love of Rey.
Extend the film by half an hour and slow the fucking plot down.
Make Rey talented, but not immediately godmode.
Ease up on ripoff from A New Hope and continue with the originality of the first half hour.
Explain the significance of blowing up those five planets since no one seemed to give a fuck.
>>63892383
How wouldn't he have touched a vagina? Do you think he was grown in a vat?
>>63892435
>the movie has an overly kinetic feel. There isn't enough relaxed moments for the characters to develop natural relationships with each other.
You hit the nail on the head with this point, and that's why I rate it less than the OT.
>>63892088
Cut all the fucking quips
>>63892281
>just make star wars 4 rip off
they already did
Not really a fix, but something I thought would have been really cool; make it so Starkiller Base does not start out as a snow planet, but as the sun is drained it gets really cold and starts to snow. This would give the finale a sense of dramatic progression by using the setting, and it would be cool as fuck to have an epic blizzard at the end of the duel as the sun has been drained.
-make it happen over a longer time- I think there were 3 days in the movie, just make it feel a bit longer
-no tentacle creature things
-keep snoke out of it, just highlight the conflict between Hux and Kylo and have snoke refered to. Makes him more ominous.
-no all digital characters. Just didn't look good enough.
-Kylo keeps his mask on longer
-rey needs more time to develop force powers- like could she know about some force powers on jakku which she uses to get some sweet loot
-Han and Leia still married, not separated. Han could still pick up the signal of the Falcon, but there's no need for him to be a fucking smuggler again. Who'd do business with a general?
-a big battle like hoth- maybe some sort of ground/space thing to try and capture Kylo Ren- like it's a desperate mission completely driven by Han and Leias desire to get him back. Feel like it would be more engaging and removes the need for deathstar III
-said battle could have more opportunity for some sweet piloting from poe
-a showdown between Finn and Phantasma? More use of that character
-keep the Kylo/rey fight the same- it was fucking great.
>>63892088
>Finn is the Chosen One™. He's not hypercompetent like Rey though, he develops his force powers slowly and only becomes awesome right at the end.
>More of Finn's life in the first order. More humanizing of Stormtroopers.
>More of Phasma
>Rey actually has a personality, and is more of a Han Solo type character.
>A less shallow first order. make them their own thing rather than empire wannabes. Make them bigger and more menacing. Maybe a bit like North Korea in space? Do something interesting and original with all that empire imagery.
>A less whiney, more menacing Kylo Ren.
>A story far less reliant on nostalgia, less of a rehash of ANH. Let the movie be its own thing, introduce concepts new to the Star Wars universe.
>More adventure than action.
>>63892304
Or how about leave Rey alone and have her be too proud of her abilities to believe that Luke has anything to teach her and knock the Force out of balance in the other direction by trying to fix the galaxy with light side pixie dust and Kylo's dark side tendencies become something that can restore balance.
>>63892088
Snoke kills Luke in the beginning.
>>63892088
Keep Starkiller base, but make it anext ancient weapon they found instead of a logistically laughable 3rd death star. Nerf Rey. Kill Chewbaca in a bloodrage after Hans death. Also remove R2 and don't have the Falcon be fixed after the crash.
Give some political context to the Galaxy, and some stakes to the destruction of the Hosnian system (whose destruction is an act of despiration, as the facility is not ready to be fired).
Give Hux some character. We also need a "tannhauser gate" piece, something to imply a much larger sense of scale. That includes having more than just x-wings and TIE Fighters in all your engagements.
And stop assuming the audience knows what the force is. If you want to capture the original magic, remind us of how mystical this is instead of having it be background noise.
>>63892088
>replace hentai teeth monsters with wampas
>star killer base is involved more, there was like no emotional investment into it
>phasma actually doing something
>son, I love you. "I know" /stabs father
>the sounds. Lasers and all other sound effects use older, already established sound effects. The new shit wasn't needed
>the story in general. A new hope reboot fucking pissed me off.
>Rey the Mary Sue. Just fuck off
Remove Finn nigger humor
Make Rey more homesick/afraid
Remove tentacle balls
Remove Maz
Remove Death Star 3,make the huge ship the target
Make the "Stop death star 3 "part a race to Luke or stopping the huge ship from glassing NotCoruscant
Add more spaceships,TIEs and X-Wings are cool but more fighters should appear
Make bling Stormtrooper the comic relief
Make Rey and co. steal the rest of the map from the huge ship
>>63892545
I don't mind quips so long as they are properly placed.
Having Han goof off with Chewie while people are being slaughtered around him is really lame and ruins the action and I don't remember anyone in the theater laughing at that stuff.
Compared to the more human humor in ANH where Leia calls Chewie a walking carpet or Han's banter when they are escaping the death star. It's funny but done in a more serious and believable way so it doesnt immediately end the tension of the moment.
Without adding any extra comments, what did you guys rate it on a scale of 1 to 10?
4/10.
It has been three decades since the defeat of the Galactic Empire and the New Republic has led the galaxy into an era of relative peace.
On the Outer Rim a new conflict is brewing. After many years of isolation the Imperial Remnant and their sinister new allies, the FIRST ORDER, are gaining in strength.
In the wake of an Imperial raid on a defenseless planet, Senator Leia sends her most daring agent on a secret mission to Jakku to investigate the attack...
>>63892644
>a less shallow first order
It would have been sick to have fanatical terrorist bad guys (kamikaze, big focus on honour, cult-like belief in their cause)
tell me the situation politically.
the resistance are separate to the republic?
the empire was nearly destroyed but this sliver that remains still has insance resources and a huge amount of troops?
i liked it, but i was actually looking forward to some star wars politics
Keep the Starkiller, with a brief scene explaining how shortly after the battle of Endor the imperial Remnants kept some of the plans for the Death Star and raided what was left of armories/factories, with an ambitious 30 year plot to rebuild the weapon into an existing planet.
Have them destroy the main weapon system of Starkiller, but have it intact for movie 2. Force what's left of the Republic to confront the Starkiller before it can be repaired.
>>63892644
>A story far less reliant on nostalgia, less of a rehash of ANH. Let the movie be its own thing, introduce concepts new to the Star Wars universe.
This. I feel that there was just too much fan service and borrowing from the original trilogy to really make it stand out on its own.
>>63892817
8/10
Freighter scene was a mistake
Inclusion of Death Star 3.0 was a FUCKING MASSIVE MISTAKE
>>63892817
>without comments.
Anon what is even the fucking point of discussion with just numbers?
7.5
>>63893153
1QUARTER PORTION
Make my man Finn fuck that white bitch Rey and the metal bitch and Leia and all the bitches too like a real nigga instead of clowning and buffooning for the white man.
>>63892088
Totally agree the super weapon thing is getting really old they are beating a dead horse there. Should have just been Rey and Finn searching for Luke Skywalker at some point they run into Han Solo and Chewie. The First Order is also searching for Luke attempting to kill him and prevent the rise of a new Jedi Order. So the entire movie is a race between the Rebels (now named the Resistance for some reason...) and the First Order on who can get to him first. Include a sub-plot if you want where Leia and the Rebel fleet are battling the First Order preventing them from capturing Bevel Lemelisk the original designer of the first two Death Stars.
Of course the Rebels just barely beat the First Order to Luke Skywalker. However Captain Phasma and her Storm Troopers are successful in capturing Bevel Lemelisk once again threatening the Galaxy.
>>63892961
This is why there's some (stupid) discussion of the prequels being better than TFA.
TFA is a better made movie than the prequels but in terms of the movie's concepts and ambitions, it's seriously lacking.
Also when they go to the pirate cantina instead of having some super lame "its so green" bs, Rey plasters her face against the glass like a kid going crazy over christmas, and then piles down the ramp out into the grass to roll around like a retard
>>63892883
That would be cool.
They're kind of half-assedly based on nazis, but overall it feels like there's nothing more to them than OT Empire-ish imagery.
Making them a sort of space ISIS would've been cool, as long as it's not too heavy handed. So like the empire but more crazy, fanatical and violent, but also weaker than the empire though they're growing stronger at an alarming rate)
Or maybe like North Korea, where the empire has retreated to one planet or system which it rules with an iron fist, but they also have expansionist aspirations now coming to fruition. There could be a civilian aspect to it that the OT didn't have. Stormtroopers would be drafted from the oppressed civilian population instead of the whole silly kidnapped from birth thing. The Starkiller base would be one of their planets that had its entire civilian population evacuated for the conversion.
Nick Robinson plays Kylo instead of that failed attempt at cloning Keanu
>>63892581
thats the fucking point.
make a star wars 4 ripoff with all the stupid fanwank but by using an actual original argument that isnt full of stupid plotholes that reads like it was written by a 5 year old
>>63892088
>Cut the Rathtar scene to give the film some much-needed breathing room. Maybe use this time to chat while the Falcon is in hyperspace; this would also give the film a sense of scale and grandeur that just wasn't there.
>Ditch the whole Death Star clone and instead make the movie solely about both sides trying to track down Skywalker. In the end it is Rey who finds him, after the Force 'awakens' within her.
Been talking to a lot of people able exactly this. Basically swap Starkiller and the hunt for Luke. Second half of the film should have been both sides racing to Luke after obtaining the map.
Then, as the final scene, after Luke rejoins the Resistance and Kylo is reporting his loss to Snoke:
>drop a line about "the weapon".
>Cut to shot of the planet shedding it's to reveal the main gun
>Credits
Then everyone leaves the theatre with "Oh shit, a fucking Deathstar" instead of "Fuck you, give me Luke". Episode 8 is about destroying Starkiller.
Also cut Maz Canata and her shitty planet, jump right to the resistance base after picking up Han. Use all the spare time to flush out Finn, discover what Poe was up to, and give Rey a goal.
>>63892088
1. Have Rey break out of prison through cleverness. Picking the locks on the bindings or something.
2. Have Kylo more visibly injured during the last fight. So much so that he can barely move by the end. And still Rey only wins by hitting his wound.
I remove Rey, Snoke, and all references to the force. Then I'd make it a buddy cop movie about Poe and Finn breaking up a drug smuggling ring run by Hux and Phasma.
Leia is their superior who keeps threatening to take away Poe's badge and Han is their shady underworld informant.
Change the name "Snoke" to something way better
>>63893499
Make them find Luke by accident at the end and it's 10/10
Don't have Finn bail in literally 10 minutes, the opening scene with the blood-stained Stormtrooper armor was fucking awesome, have him PTSD after a bunch of civilian massacres and end up just fucking losing it after maybe he's about to shoot Rey. Don't even have Finn take themaskoff until like half into the film.
Seriously, pic related is too badass to just never appear again.
Rey has bigger tits and runs more
>>63893629
it's a disney movie, you can't have a main character commit massacres.
>>63893629
I'm pretty sure that the blood was only so audiences could pick him out from all the stormtroopers, but as a side effect made him have some unexplained relationship with the dead trooper.
What if that was his brother or best friend. He had only stayed in the First Order because the other was too afraid to leave. Or they had been planning on running away until they got moved from Starkiller Sanitation Division to a full deployment.
This wouldn't take too much extra time either, just a small line on board the drop ship, a fist bump, a nod, anything. Something to show that these aren't two faceless murderers like we've always been told Stormtroopers are.
>>63893786
We can start it off as more noble, with more unrest in the new republic and people being doubtful of how Sheev did it (spoke to the senate) vs how the rebel scum did it (nuked the leadership), a big bunch of people who believe that Sheev and the Empire did nothing wrong, then you have Finn in that who becomes disillusioned with it, until finally he gets called to massacre a village and he ends up becoming the TRAITOR.
Hell, you could even have him capture Poe and get the map, only to end up not giving it to the First Order, as he re-evaluates everything he ever knew and decides to bail the fuck out.
>>63892281
the Old Republic is shit, and everything about Ancient Star Wars is shit
>>63892088
Either get rid of or give Snoke some establishment and make him a present character. The Emperor could get away with not being in direct control of the Empire's efforts against the Rebels because he owned the Galaxy. If the First Order is on the run, Snoke should be front and center.
Also rename him.
Make Rey less immediately trusting and less competent. Putting the character through hardship and not immediately making them the most useful person in the room is very important to humanizing them. Since Rey is never put in a position where she has to rely on her friends in the movie, she comes off as a Mary Sue.
Establish exactly how powerful the Republic is in relation to the First Order. Is it a cold war where both sides control territory? Or is The First Order somehow hiding a navy any a planet destroying weapon within Republic space. Rename the Resistance as it adds to the confusion.
Age up the First Order admirals, including Hux. If they were in the Imperial navy during episode VI, they all should be at least 50.
Give more stormtroopers the electro-tonfa OR replace TR-8R with Phasma so she has something to do besides be held at gunpoint
Throw out a throwaway line about why they attack Starkiller Base with 15 X-Wings instead of the entire Republic Navy, who are probably a holo-phone call away and probably want to know why 5 of their planets just blew up.
Give Luke a line and get rid of the helicopter shot at the end.
>>63894111
>want to know why 5 of their planets just blew up.
I think all the republic blew up.
>>63893931
It was a weird decision to humanise one stormtrooper and then have every other stormtrooper play the same role they played in the OT as the faceless soldiers of the evil empire.
>>63894111
>Establish exactly how powerful the Republic is in relation to the First Order. Is it a cold war where both sides control territory? Or is The First Order somehow hiding a navy any a planet destroying weapon within Republic space. Rename the Resistance as it adds to the confusion.
I assume the galaxy is still in some state of chaos after the collapse of the Empire, with both sides trying to claim neutral worlds. The Republic might not have the resources to have their own military, so instead they help fund a 3rd party resistance
>>63892450
>the originality of the first half hour
>a droid with information vital to the Rebellion is running away from Imperial forces on a desert planet
I'm fucking shocked Jar Jar Abrams was able to resist sliding "this isn't the droid you're looking for" into the script
>>63894264
Then why fire the weapon a second time? What did stopping the weapon accomplish?
>>63894111
A Cold War allegory almost feels like a natural progression from the OT.
This movie desperately needed context for the power struggle in the galaxy.
>>63892088
My biggest problem with TFA is the music, i know John Williams did it and really it was spot on, it sounds like Star Wars should sound, but there was a lack of emotional themes (aside from the ones in the OT) so for example when Han dies there is almost no emotion, i was hoping for more "two suns" moments but got none.
And its not like Abrahams couldn't reach Michael Giacchino who is really a master when it comes to do tear jerking music.
Kinda let down by that.
Im the only one?
>>63894317
>The Republic might not have the resources to have their own military
Thats crazy considering
a) They scrapped together an actual fleet with hundreds of fighters and dozens of capital ships while the Empire owned the galaxy
and
b) They've had 25+ years of territory control. Their first order (lol) of business should have been creating a standing army to protect themselves against The First Order, especially considering the ships used in the Galactic Civil War didn't just disappear when the Rebels won
>>63892195
incorrect, just cut her out of the film entirely, and have Hux take her role as head of the stormtroopers.
>>63892225
incorrect maybe bait i cant tell
>>63892545
cut the ones from characters whose characterization does not fit with it. the quips from han and chewie were great.
>>63892724
either retarded or bait
>>63892773
>son, I love you. "I know" /stabs father
10000x worse than what we got. also no wampas. everything else was correct though.
>>63892782
boba fett 2.0 should not be comic relief. she shouldnt have even been there if she wasnt going to do something badass. otherwise correct.
>>63892960
>keep the death star around for another movie
terrible idea. 3 movies with death stars is derivative enough.
>>63893296
not sure what you were going for here. incorrect.
>>63893496
incorrect. why would you want your main villain to be injured to the point of ineffectiveness in the final showdown? if anything that would cheapen the triumph. i get what you're saying though, because the film can't seem to make up its mind about whether he is a good sith or not.
>>63893466
incorrect. Another death star is a mistake whether its in episode 7 or 8.
>>63893629
incorrect. that would slow things down far too much, and it would get boring looking at a mask for half the movie. agreed that the blood was great, though.
>>63894518
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>>63892450
All correct
>>63894518
I feel you. I think part of the reason I never got 100% into the film was the lack of iconic themes set to iconic imagery. Two Suns or the X-Wings entering attack formation in ANH are some of the best. There was no moment like that in this film where the music and visuals synthesized to be something more.
>>63894542
Here's why:
Give all characters real fucking personalities. Han and Chewie were almost unrecognizable with their characterization.
Cut the quips. This meme of having everyone quip (especially mid battle) needs to die.
Cut out guardians of the galaxy tier rathtarr scene.
Find a new actress to play Rey.
Remove phasma if youre not going to even use her. If you do use her then make her fight finn instead of Tr-8r
Remove Snoke. He didnt do anything for the movie and had barely any character. When Starkiller blows up he just shrugs and says whatever bring me rey.
Slow down the damn pacing, the movie jumps around far too much. We visit three planets and a big ship in the span of the whole film and barely see any of them.
Remove Luke from the movie
Stop the nostalgia pandering. so many scenes had pottery in them it got tiresome
Remove the forced diversity and SJW shit. We know why you did it JJ, and it becomes apparent when every background character is POC or a woman
Make the empire not fucking literal nazis
Remove deathstar v3
Make the story smaller, and less grand in scope
Make rey a real person and not a mary sue
Explain shit instead of pushing it out of the way (maz kanata saying thats a story for another time for example)
Dont have the falcon do fucking battlefield style tricks in mid air
>>63894582
Here's your reply. Also, you don't seem to understand that this movie could not exist without ripping off ANH. Producers and marketering wouldn't let it happen. A new Death Star and Bling Boba made this movie happen, they just should have used more responsibly.
>>63892088
Have rey have more issues with people trying to steal her shit from the beginning. She fights them off with a weapon somewhere between the weapon she actually uses and a lightsaber.
At the end. When fin goes to fight Kylo, Kylo should cut both his legs off in one cool parry. (Shocking as fuck and shows kylos power compared to the average stormtrooper) Rey (with help from her upbrining fighting on jakku) then barely manages to defend herself against an injured (but still fairly powerful) Kylo - giving us the lightsaber duel we all wanted to see. Eventually she manages to injure him to a point they can run using the force. (This would have been an arc more prominent throughout the film, not a couple of tongue in cheek scenes to make lols)
>>63894708
So the people of the Republic demanded no standing army because muh imperialism even though The First Order was still out there AND the fact that the Old Republic didn't have a standing army to keep the Trade Federation in line is exactly how Sheev came to power in the first place?
That sounds pretty interesting. Too bad its wasted potential unless its addressed.
>>63894806
>this movie could not exist without ripping off ANH
source? They had tons of creative control. JJ and KK are the ones who wanted this to happen.
>>63894879
They will demand it now after the space Pearl Harbor attack on the Republic.
just came back from the movie. was the pacing bad for anyone else? some scenes felt too long.
what happened to the shiny stormtrooper girl? its almost like they didn't need her in the movie.
making finn act "black" in some scenes was in poor taste.
>Make STARKILLER BASE a weapon factory the size of an entire planet, instead of a super weapon. The rebels need to destroy it because the first order is using it to produce weapons they could possibly use to start a galactic war.
>Replace the scenes of starkiller base destroying planets with scenes of the leaders and representatives of each planet being assassinated.
>Remove the scene of Rey using Jedi mind tricks entirely. Have her escape captivity some other way.
I think that's all I would change. Everything else keep exactly the same.
>>63895158
jesus christ never post again please
>>63894806
If the movie couldn't have existed without being a copy and paste of ANH then it shouldn't have existed at all.
>>63894898
Look at the landscape of blockbuster movies today. Remakes and sequels all the way down. Right now people would rather see old shit with new paint than new shit. JJ just happens to be a fan of painting old shit. It's exactly what he did with Star Trek 2009, which is why he got this job.
>>63894101
*tips fedora*
>>63894340
Well not that part specifically, but for the first 45 or so minutes they weren't following ANH point by point.
The movie proceeds as it did until the scene where Han gives Rey a pistol
>Han, I, I can't stop thinking about him
>Finn... he's so cute... so ~black~
>*cut to Han affixing his yarmulke*
>Trust your instincts, kid
>Han walks into the sea, leaving Rey the Falcon
>Rey walks up behind Finn
>Finn... um...
>Finn makes gorilla growls
>Oh god, Finn, breed me! I need you! Make me your woman forever!
>*wacky sex montage*
>Rey and Finn finally get to the Rebel base
>BB rolls out, Poe runs to him
>Poe looks up, sees them walking down the catwalk
>as the two enter the light, Rey is visibly pregnant
>Rey rests her hand on her stomach, Finn cocks his head and smirks at Poe
>close on Poe's face, jaw drops, erection clearly bulges
>cue credit theme
Pay me JJ
Have TR-8R not be dead after getting shot, just wounded and helped away by his fellow troopers, to fight Finn another day.
>>63895729
I want to rewatch the TR-8R scene, did he survive or is confirmed kill?
>>63892588
whoa, that's like the best post I've seen on this fucking board
>>63894582
Nah man, it needs the deth sturr for all the little 2010+ kids that can't stomach OT pace/technology. This movie is about us giving them the SW nerd mind virus and buying them toys they ask for incessantly so it needs that stuff.
>>63895781
hes kill
;_;7
>>63895729
Horrible scene. It looks straight out of Power Rangers
Is the death star a fucking fetish or soemthing for people who liek star wars? How many times can they make the entire plot revolve around nearly identical, totally outlandish super weapons that consume nearly all of the resources of one side of a conflict?
HOW MANY FUCKIGN DEATH STARS DO YOU PEOPLE NEED BEFORE YOUR ITCH HAS BEEN SCRATCHED?
>>63895900
RIP Stormtrooper TR-8R, you will be remembered.
does anyone have the scene though
>>63896117
i do but 4chinz wont let me post it since it has sound. its really not that great, lasts like 20 seconds
>>63895158
>making finn act "black" in some scenes was in poor taste.
His behavior felt more like he's really socially awkward due to being a Stormtrooper. It needed a frame of reference though, some glimpse to his life as a trooper, interactions with other troopers, stuff like that.
>all of these proposed changes are acting as though TFA is its own story
We won't know until the second or third film how many of these changes would completely fuck up the overall story or just end up being redundant with something that comes later.
>>63895729
He's the new Han Solo, expect thousands of EU fanfics
>>63894111
>replace TR-8R with Phasma
Yeah, why didn't they give Phasma the tonfa? It would have made much more sense in terms of rivalry / comeuppance
>>63896384
>make a movie bad because the next 2 actually fix it!
How about they release all 3 parts together then? A movie is meant to stand on its own, especially the first one.
I don't see how ANH was like TFA in this regard
>>63895123
>making finn act "black" in some scenes was in poor taste.
he could be white and literally say the exact same thing and no one would give a fuck.
Is being loud acting "black" to you people?
>>63892088
+Either give Luke lines or just cut the scene altogether
there was no point in that fucking ending as is
(I was told Luke was going to be in 7
I was told Luke, Han, and Leia were not going to be in 8
now I am quite certain Luke will be in 8 but under a different director
it should have just cut to the millennium falcon in space then credits, because if Luke was going to be at the end the movie needed to be extended by 30 or so minutes)
+cut the rathtar scene, it gave the viewer nothing worthwhile in return, the cgi was shit and introduced a shitty alien that held no value to the plot
+explain who Max von Sydow is, don't act mention how he has aged when no one even knows who he is or why he has part of a map
+don't let Kylo show his face until Han scene
+give captain phasma some fucking screen time jesus fucking christ JJ you cuck
+explain the difference between resistance first order rebels and empire
>>63896632
look at it this way
at least JJ can't ruin Luke
>>63896760
i feel like they had filmed a lot of Mark
and it was cut due to that fucking Rathtar scene being incredibly long
Redo the opening crawl to explain wtf is happening politically or just what's happened since Jedi in general, have it describe First Order as dominant in the galaxy so the resistance is a real resistance.
Cut out as much of the CGI tentacle monsters and the yellow goggles thing as possible.
Redub as many of Rey's lines as possible. Her acting is TERRIBLE.
Cut out the Starkiller plotline entirely, recut the end so that it's set on a base on an ice planet.
Cut out Phasma being crushed, just have her captured. Find a way to make her not lose any credibility.
Cut out some of the unjustified moments of closeness between Finn and Poe / Finn and Rey.
The Rathtar scene could have been a bit better yeah. I think it would have been neat if they had thrown in some quip about them being baby sarlacc's or sarlacc pods.
>>63896860
Phasma was thrown into the trash compactor and would have died, but I am 99.9% sure that they're going to say the trash door opened with Rey pulled that fuse, so Phasma escaped
>>63896869
but what would that have done for the rest of the movie or plot?
just a cheap mention/ hint? weren't there too many of those already
>>63892264
I would legit like to know why you're so mad.
>>63896924
>the trash door opened with Rey pulled that fuse, so Phasma escaped
I just realized that scene and how that makes sense
>>63896974
>>63896974
he just wants them (You)'s m8
>>63895220
Everything he said makes sense though and would improve the film.
>>63894719
>When Starkiller blows up he just shrugs and says whatever bring me rey.
This bothered me a lot.
>>63896958
True true. I think they just wanted to recreate the feeling of that giant worm thing or those energy sucking bats. Just throw some monsters in to mess with them.
>>63895123
>making finn act "black" in some scenes was in poor taste.
whenever his lines were supposed to be funny, you could hear the 3 black people in the theater laugh
>"I'm in charge now phasma, me" hahahaha*
all i could do was cringe
Incorporate more droids and aliens from the OTand PT.
Not many of the new aliens and droids were really memorable, they seemed very generic.
>>63897204
at least that made sense, since they were trying to get away from Tie fighters in an asteroid field
but the rathtars were forced and not in a good way
>>63894357
They were gonna blow up the planet where the resistance base was.
>>63894615
the theme in the last scene is pretty good though, but yeah I don't remember anything else that stood out
>>63892195
>give phasma more screentime
People keep saying this as if her character had more to offer than it did. Yeah it seemed kind of implied she was gonna be a total badass but really was just a small role and was a sort of authority figure for Finn whom he overcomes at the end.
>>63892278
>big Resistance vs First Order shootout in VIII
>Phasma steps into the battle
>Haha, thought you could leave me in that trash compacter, did you? I suppo-
>is immediately shot by random rebel soldierplayed by Penn Gilette
>>63894719
>Remove Snoke. He didnt do anything for the movie and had barely any character. When Starkiller blows up he just shrugs and says whatever bring me rey.
you mean ren?
>>63897453
I see Phasma as an important character just as much as Huxwhen Hux black series 6 inch figure release
>>63896447
I hope this is the case.
>>63892278
Actually create an interesting dynamic between Hand and his son. Their final (and only) confrontation was so lame and predictable. The fact that he was his son also felt tremendously shoehorned.
Make Finn's background and motivations more interesting and fleshed out. Exact same with the Mary Sue.
Don't have Kylo be such a useless bitch.
Snoke is a fucking CGI Disney villain, scrap him and the ginger english public school prefect dude and put a real menacing and interesting non-CGI character in there.
>>63897692
*Han
Also why give Poe the main mission at the start only to have him become a side character? It makes no fucking sense.
>>63896447
I think Boba Fett would be a better comparison
>>63897463
>Episode IX
>Starkiller 2 is almost completed, it's the size of a sun
>One last chance to blow it up with the "hit-me" target
>The Resistance is out of ammo
>Drama builds, The First Order is about to blow up the galaxy
>Phasma taunts the resistance forces, as she stands guard over the "hit-me" hole.
>A resistance trooperplayed by Penn Jillettethrows his last grenade at her, knocking her into the hole
>Starkiller 2 blows up
>>63897799
Oh Jesus Christ, I fucked up, Boba Fett is who I meant.
>>63892088
Kill Rey in the first 15 seconds.
>>63897040
He want a lot of (You)'s because that's the closest thing there is to le upboats he collects on reddit
>>63892545
Star Wars always had quips you memelord
Make an original story, cut out all the OT pandering. Make Phasma do something not bitch boy Bobba Fett 2.0, make Kylo Ren a sinsiter villain and not edgy crybaby, remove death star 3.0, cast someone other than that wimp from Ex Machina as the a villain, have Rey learn shit and fail instead of win at everything, don't bother given Finn a lightsaber to use and just make him use a blaster, remove any trace of romance between the rey and finn and just make them good friends, remove the MCU tier quips. That's just off the top of my head.
>>63895963
Ok you do realize that after we invent a weapon that powerful, there's no going back. They aren't going to abandon the ultimate power in the galaxy because one got blown up.
We didn't stop making nukes after Hiroshima. Seriously I don't understand why haters are so retarded
Have Phasma interrogate Rey instead of Ren and make it a sexy 20 minute lesbian scene in a bdsm dungeon
Am I the only one who hated the way the Map was solved? A section of unexplored space surrounded by explored space?
Not really a fix but just something I wanted to see.
Chewy going apeshit and rushing at Ren after he kills Han. Have him thrown around like a rag doll and gored a bit by Chewy's claws instead of getting hit by his blaster. We've heard how Wookies are aggressive and will rip apart anyone who makes them mad but when there's a real reason to go mad he doesn't, he just does a generic scream. Have Rey and Finn calm him down as troopers arrive to back up Ren or something.
>>63898535
>Chewy charges him
>Gets cut in half
Nah
>>63894582
Jesus christ, do you want people to read your shit or are you just leaving this here to mark your territory?
>>63898336
Two. Two got blown up.
>>63894582
I can tell u mean business when it comes to Star Wars m8
Chewy actually mourning his lifelong friend. I mean he's all "welp back to business". Chewy is always super emotional over everything, that didn't made sense
>>63898535
I was thinking the exact same thing, this is where we get a glimpse of Chewie in his most primal state, after seeing his best friend for life getting murdered. He should've ripped one of Kylo's arms off.
>Drop a few of the jokes
>Rey's use of the force is lessened
>Better ending shot
>Keep Starkiller
>Redo the entire OST, shit is on par with AotC
>No Rebellion, call it the New Republic Army or something
>Show more of Neo Coruscant?
>No Luke MacGuffin
Anything else?
>>63898787
He flipped out more when Luke tried to put the binders on him in ANH
>>63896447
>>63897799
Surely he's the new Darth Maul?
Except even less dialogue and only one scene instead of four.
![Bowcaster_DICE[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/jJHHMWV.png "Bowcaster_DICE[1].png")
>>63898631
He shoots at him with his crossbow knocking Ren's lightsaber out of his hand while he's distracted. He shoots too fast and it gets stuck or something then he rushes or something like that, like what the hell is the point of a crossbow blaster anyway? It doesn't even have any string to draw.
Look at this shit it literally has useless weights attached to make it look like a crossbow. I feel like they just made it so only Chewy can use it cause it's too heavy for anyone else to use, altho that wouldn't make sense since Han uses it anyway. Why did it take 40 years for Han to notice Chewy's crossbow? It's like if Chewy just now notices there's a toilet in the Falcon.
>>63899333
>Why did it take 40 years for Han to notice Chewy's crossbow?
Fan service
>>63892088
Replace Lupita Nyong'o with Max Von Sydow for the non-CGI role as Maz
>>63892088
how about we write a story instead of copy and pasting ANH's
Have Porkins jr. explode
>>63892213
make the ST helmet a device of mindcontrol when broken it free finn from his slavers
>>63900257
oh wait
>>63900257
>The fat boy from heroes was in this movie
I actually laughed when I saw this pudgy asshole. He was in LA Noire as well.
>>63901298
the only white male character who isn't from the first movie is an obese throwaway top kek
>>63892195
Completely replace Phasma's role in the story with this guy.
>>63899329
>Comes back in the next movie.
>With TWO electro-tonfas.
>>63901576
No, make TR8-0R the main antagonist!
Cut out the flashback scene and move it to the interrogation.
The Lightsaber is given to Finn by Maz as a way of convincing him to stick around she says something cliche like "there is a hero in all of us some need a little bit more of a push than others" han asks "where did you find this?!" maz says "i know a guy who works maintenance in cloud city"
Cut the scene where han solo fights the smugglers and the man eating bests completely, replace it with a scene of the first order attacking the big cargo ship that pulls in the falcon with ties and then bailing out but it's too late and a tracer is put on them. Remove the retarded scene of the lady calling the first order to maz's palace at the same time the other person calls the resistance.
Make the starkiller base sequence not be about destroying the base, make the primary motivation be a stealth rescue mission, that leads to them deciding they should blow it up because they over hear that they know where the resistance base is. The sequence will then largely play out the same except the bullshit "15 minutes till starkiller base is ready" is gone because that shit didn't even add urgency considering how many things are going on at star killler base. Make the scene feel more like the death star escape rather than the trench run + endor base
>>63901386
Except that isn't true at all
God I want /pol/ to commit mass suicide so badly
Have Phasma be the stormtrooper to fight Finn rather than some random guy.
>>63901955
>Cut out the flashback scene and move it to the interrogation.
I actually really like this for some reason
>>63901729
fuck that, dedicate an entire movie TR8-0R and his story
>>63897482
nah ren had characterization, he was a whiny edgelord teenager who threw temper tantrums like a baby. snoke was just lol evulz xD
Movie def needs to include a scene where Chewie rips arms out of sockets. Just put a droid in the base for that part since its Disney and he can't do that to the stormtroopers
>>63901961give me a hug man
Remove or replace the scene with the gangsters on Han's ship. It was boring, didn't really serve a purpose, and the monsters were shit tier.
Change Captain Phasma. There is no logical reason as to why Captain Phasma would turn off the shields. Simply replace this scene with something better, and also make Phasma more interesting and independent in this scene.
Make the damaged starkiller base actually fire and begin to explode while doing so. Leia coordinates the evacuation of D'qar (resistance base planet) and a small amount of them escape while the red beam travels through space. Leia and a large portion of the resistance die here. This should be tied in with the death of Han and should have a powerful soundtrack comparable to when order 66 was executed. This would make the deaths of these characters a lot more emotional. Killing Leia and Han would allow the next movies to move the focus to the new characters and Luke, and therefore allow this trilogy to become more independent and memorable. Also doing this would be just about the only unpredictable thing in the movie, and would make it considerably different to A New Hope. It would also improve the next movies in that the audience would actually have to worry when major characters are in danger, rather than just expect them to escape with serious wounds or some shit.
Make Harrison Ford re-shoot his death scene, the face he makes when he dies is god awful.
I love John Williams but the soundtrack wasn't really memorable at all.
Make Rey slightly less good with the force in the fight against Kylo Ren.
Create a sitcom involving TR-8R, Finn, Phasma and other stormtroopers in training
>>63893320
>half-assedly based on nazis
The nazi imagery was not half assed. It was over the top. They even did the damn salute.
>>63899329
No, because they knew Maul was going to be cool enough to gain traction. Phasma was the new Maul, except she failed because she has zero characterization during the hype phase, even in her costume, and is totally irrelevant and incompetent in the movie. Maul at least looks edgy and has some moves, Boba Fett looked like a grizzled veteran, and TR-8R had pathos. What is Phasma besides a generically cool costume and being a 6'100" woman?
>>63892484
C section
>>63903830
She is an Amazon of a woman man totally death by snu snu.
>>63899333
Through the use of magnetic acceleration, bowcasters were more powerful and accurate than the average blaster. Designs differed through the materials used and the creator's artistic approach, although the end result was visually similar to a crossbow-like weapon.[2]
The weapon used metal quarrels enveloped with energy as ammunition. Two polarizing orbs, balanced on each end of the bow, created a magnetic field that boosted the quarrel's momentum. Once the cocking spring was pulled back, the trigger fired the quarrel, which was charged with plasma energy.
>>63898504
I think it was meant to be more like a missing line of code in a program than an unexplored area.
>>63904868
wasn't the problem more that they needed r2 for context
>>63892088
Your second suggestion is pretty much what I'd do.
The movie takes place around the same time. The Empire was not defeated right after RotJ, no, but eventually they were beaten down and most involved were brought to justice. Leia is the commander of the Republic army, Han is out fuckin' around as a smuggler, and Luke has fucked off after Kylo killed his Jedi padawans, all of that is fine. There is no "Resistance," they're just the army of the Republic.
The First Order doesn't have a Death Star, but they do have Kylo Ren, Snoke, and re-purposed Stormtrooper uniforms and TIE Fighters. Like how the flames of the Rebellion grew, the First Order is growing, with terrorist attacks here or there. The movie starts in a similar fashion with Poe being captured by the First Order after finding out Luke's location. There are no planets that get blown up, but instead we see the senate early on and that gets blown up later in the movie by the First Order who demand the other piece of Luke's location.
Other random stuff include less action scenes, more expository scenes, less scenes with Han/Finn/Rey and more with Rey/Finn/Poe (did we even get any of those scenes in the film?).
>>63898504
I laughed for ten seconds straight. It looked so fucking stupid, like they were trying to make it completely obvious to the viewer that a part of the map was missing.
I agree with most of the points in this thread, so I'll skip over most of what I would have said.
While I disliked having Death Star 3.0 in the film, wouldn't it be a great twist if the resistance failed and the planet was destroyed?
The rebels can still have there stupid planning sequence and can even act really cocky about it (we've already done this twice before, etc). The movie seems really predictable up until the moment that they realized they failed. Rey, Finn, Chewbacca, Poe (he should have been with the group for the entire movie) and the droids just barely make it out alive. The resistance and republic is in shambles, and the New Order/Empire has once again become the dominant force in the galaxy.
You can have Poe lamenting about how everything is over and how the great war heroes Leia and Han died. He could go on about how all their work ( in the OT) was for nothing. Finn is upset that he joined the wrong side at the worst possible time.
And then just before the film ends Rey holds up the stick with the location of Luke Skywalker and says that not all hope is lost, they still have Luke. The map shouldn't be in two pieces, it was stupid and was solved way too easily when R2D2 woke up. If the film's main focus was finding Luke then they could have made it much harder to find him.
While I would have much rather just not have Death Star 3.0 and have the focus about finding Luke Skywalker, I think this would have been a interesting way to include it in the film. In addition then this giant super weapon is still a problem for the next installments.
>>63892088
What I would change in ep VII
-more exposition on Rey. Show her training with her staff, her using the force periodically, maybe a jedi mind trick on teedo or manipulating a die roll
-give captain phasma more lines. Maybe have her give the order to kill the villagers
-make Kylo Ren less blatantly evil
-show scenes of a random character on Hosnian Prime, giving details about the state of the galaxy and the republic, and also to give us an emotional connection to the destruction of the Hosnian system
-show more blowback from the destruction of the hosnian system among the rebellion members
-when rey fights kylo, have her turnaround occur after she remembers/hears Luke's voice
-have her break Kylo's saber but instead of defeating him, have him fight her off with the force. Maybe hold her in place while she struggles against it until the planet finally starts breaking apart.
-have R2 follow Rey to Luke and have the two have a happy moment together
Still one of my favorite star wars movies. Cant wait to catch it again
>>63892611
>-a big battle like hoth- maybe some sort of ground/space thing to try and capture Kylo Ren- like it's a desperate mission completely driven by Han and Leias desire to get him back. Feel like it would be more engaging and removes the need for deathstar III
Fucking brilliant. Rest of your points are whatever, but this would have been a great plot
>luke, come help us get our son back
>nah, fuck that kid imma go chill over here
- Redo the dialog so each is one cut (you could hear the mix and match)
- Make snoke something we can recognize instead of just some nameless evil creature that everyone somehow knows
- If Rey is purposefully meant to be perfect, drop hints as to why and ensure that we predict she has been trained. Don't let her be completely perfect
- Hux as a women would have been sexy (though the actor did a decent job with the sibling rivalry). Nothing quite like a dominatrix woman in a uniform. Also would have proved Jylo even more beta as he would be competing with her instead of getting in her pants. Phasm as a woman was a huge let down
- cut luke, She can go find him, but cut the scene
- give minor backstory or cut starkiller. We either needed to know how or need it gone
>>63892545
Nah, keep the quibs. Finn was actually nice to have.
>>63892883
I would have liked this, also applies to present day and far different than what we've had in the past
>>63893233
You realize Phasm "raped" him. Thats why she requested him at her division. And why he was so excited about the power change. She was all about the BBC
>>63893286
Man shut the fuck up about the prequels. Let it stand on its own to shity feet
>>63893537
Honestly, prolly wouldn't mind this. A shame cause rey seems important though far less awesome then Poe/Finn dynamic
>>63893629
Calousness comes from multiple experiences. See Boiling Frog. He needs to jump out of the water asap which is what happened
>>63893761
kek
>>63894292
This could be the "force awakening". Aka windu's babies moma's babies BBC
>>63894518
His scores wouldn't mean much. in PT and OT scenes lasted longer. Here scenes ended within 5 minutes of starting and no shot lasted more than 30 seconds.
>>63895729
Fuck that guy. There should have been no "honor killings", it should have been straight nazi style shot to the head or he pulls out his secondary weapon. He is not unique, just another Storm trooper.
>>63906324
Kylo was never meant to be "evil". He's a wannabe. He is a suckup given a leadership role. He is a tryhard. Vader was a prized Race horse with a giant cock and good genes. Kylo is a pony thats decended but can't keep up with the others so they all make fun of him.
Kylo is fucking rudolf the rednosed reindeer, coming back with a rifle and shooting up the school.
>>63906324
>>63906414
The whole point of the Mega Death Star was to get rid of the republic and give the antagonists some realistic weight without making the previous three movies feel like they accomplished very little in the face of what they fought.
It was a necessary plotline.
>hire guys from The Raid
>no epic fight scene involving them
>hire Breanne of Tarth
>she literally gets thrown in the trash
What a fucking waste
>>63906672
He orders the slaughter of a group of unarmed villagers. Thats a war crime, and by modern day morals its pretty fuckin evil
>>63907002
I'm saying, hux as a woman would make people start doubting their allegiences. It would be obvious sexualization of uniform. But I could absolutely see a dominate organized woman running a nazi regieme.
>>63906832
You can have both.
Also, the first post you're responding to just says to attach more weight to the destruction of the republic
>>63907086
I believe your looking it at the way it should be rather than from his own perspective.
Honestly, not sure if you are worth the argument
Get better actors
>>63907182
For me its like anakin killing the younglings. At this point can he really be redeemed?
>>63907243
Thats the difference between Finn and Kylo.
And also Seperatists and Empire. Seperatists were actually a coalition and took prisoners because they believed the republic was corrupt. Empire did not because they did not need to barter, only to oppress.
If you want redeemable, clone wars might interest you. Seperatists are far more humane than you might realize. Nazi's were never humane, but their reasons for doing so are different and often personal
I know this is fanfic tier, but I would have liked to have seen a story where the empire shatters and the republic reforms, but there are a shittonne of civil wars and shit because the senate is incompetent.
The villain would be the MC of the first movie, who wants to bring peace to the galaxy, but at the end of the first movie decides that the best way to do this is to reform the empire and he becomes a sith in the process.
Then there would be the other MC who is Luke's other apprentice and tries to stop him.
Essentially, it would be MC becomes a sith at the end of VII. Then in VIII he gets BTFO, barely survives and crash lands on Korriban. Then in IX he would have discovered the secrets of the sith on Korriban and come back with a vengence before finally getting stopped.
This doesn't really count as fixing TFA as much as rewriting it (badly), though.
>>63892088
Forgive me, I have absolutely zero knowledge of anything beyond the star wars movies.
Nigger axed.
The empire are the good guys (think a change in leadership at the end of 6). Gives a chance for phasma and hux to do cool shit and the audience to cheer for them. Plus, it will actually give some meaning to stormtroopers + make the movie less dark, since the "good" guys are basically murdering orphans.
Rey is the new leia except obviously choosing to be a jedi. No longer such a fucking mary sue. give her something about the fear of failure or something, exacerbated by kylo's descent.
The movie is set a bit earlier.
Fuck sand. It's a whole goddamn galaxy. Show us something we haven't seen yet.
Kylo is much more grey. He's the apprentice of luke and paling around with rey but he starts to be seduced by snoke.add angst or w/e.
Snoke is now from another galaxy. He's got an alien army. give him some strength through power bullshit, i dunno. anyway, snokes like that devil fucker from phantom menace, so he gets killed but his master is still out there.
anyway
7 - backstory, show what happened after 6, kylo and rey palling around reking scrubs. meet the pilot dude, kinda new han solo character. snoke does some bullshit, kylo defects. ends on a cliffhanger cuz fuck you.
8 - kylo redemption, snoke dies, enemy army beaten back
9 - snokes master shows up, shit gets real. defeated soundly about 2/3rd thru, end of the movie is new jedi order, through some adventuring in, whatever
luke is like an active yoda, not some retarded hermit
han solo is still chillin around the galaxy, which gives his scene (you know the one) more weight when it happens and actually works. if harrison ford doesnt want to, cgi some shit, or just get some recordings, I dont fucking know.
leia still has her general shit, i think that was fine.
i liked the vader helmet, but it should be a symbol of redemption for the order or something.
I apologize if anyone suffered through this rambling shit.
>>63907447
>Nigger axed
Finn did literally nothing wrong, I haven't seen a single valid criticism of him or Boyega's acting that wasn't dumbass /pol/ bullshit.
>>63907528
I thought he did very well in his part.
If there was anything, it's that his humour did seem a bit out of place (except the trash compactor part, that was great.)
>>63907416
That sounds like the movie we deserved.
> Civil war amoungst a recollecting republic
> Segoku Jidai with a Nobunaga Character
> Luke acts as Mitsuhide showing rare allegience and focusing mostly on his own power
>>63902805
>Change Captain Phasma.
This, even if she got out of the garbage in time to escape the planet her role in the movie is fucked.
>Can't join the good guys because she hasn't proven in the movie that she's at all a good person (firing squads, never doubts orders)
>can't stay in the First Order since it's her fault they lost their planet sized station
Might as well be dead baka.
>>63907667
She'll have to become a bounty hunter.
>>63907447
I don't like sand.
>>63907447
It's like you imagined some completely different movie with some of the same character names. What the fuck.
What are they going to do about teh Rei?
Without any training she's nearly at Starkiller's hax level of force power. Luke was barely able to block attacks blindfolded in the time Rey could use Jedi Mind tricks; hell Luke couldn't even do that until Return of the Jedi.
does /tv/ ship them?
Watching it a second time, Rey messes up a lot. Sure she does some pretty crazy stuff, but ultimately her successes are pretty consistent with those of other characters around her. The pace is really what makes her character development seem worse than it is.
>>63892088
The Imperials should be more Imperial and less Fascist. The iconography is ridiculous and doesn't jive with the old trilogy at all.
JJ is all about calling back to the OT which only makes the First Order's anachronistic nature stick out even more.
>>63908078
An orange and a carpet.
Why the fuck not?
>>63892782
hell no XD
>>63894101
neh isnt that bad
Have the Empire kill everyone in the beginning, cut to Han Solo and Chewbacca smuggling and having good time. Maybe show more of Luke doing stuff. Roll credits.
>>63892611
>-keep the Kylo/rey fight the same- it was fucking great.
My nigga. the movie had several blunders but that fight was hype as fuck
>>63908305
Him punching is nowcaster wound was pretty damn good. The lightsabers also sounded very lethal and they looked like they wanted to kill each other, not smack the blades together like some of the duels in the prequels had.
Rei's ultimate reliance on the phallic emblem that is the lightsabre shows that even when Hollywood is willing to accept the idea that a woman can be cast as the lead role in their space fantasy exploitations, they still cannot accept woman complete autonomy from man, suggesting that even when a woman has proven herself to be equal with man, she can only do so on man's terms. Until Hollywood is rid of the domineering overtone that suggests all physical acts of violence must be committed with the weapons of the patriarchy, all attempts to convince you that the Jews behind the camera are playing ball should be handled as a trojan horse. I personally am boycotting all future Star Wars films until this injustice is righted; I believe anyone who considers themselves a sensible and reasonable human being should do the same.
Cheers,
Peter Mayhew
>>63908392
Where the heck did this come from?
>Finn and Poe don't get split up and they both team up with Rey later
>Poe is the one who pilots the Millenium Falcon with Rey as co-pilot
>Rey's force powers start to awaken here when she "feels" the best way to avoid the attacking First Order pilots
>They make it back to the Resistence base
>Leia teaches Rey a bit about the Force
>Han is part of the Resistence
>Han takes Rey to Maz, while Finn stays behind and bros it up with Poe and the Resistence
>On the way to Maz we see Rey practicing her force powers as well as being taught how to fly by Han
>Maz doesn't have a Lightsaber but instead has a lightsaber crystal
>Kylo launches an attack on the Resistences base to try and capture BB8
>Han and Rey arrive back as the attack is underway, this is where Kylo kills Han
>Rey fights Kylo with her staff but it gets wrecked
>Kylo is going to capture Rey, but Finn shows up to save her and Kylo gets captured instead
>In the aftermath of the battle Rey builds her lightsaber (double bladed)
>The Resistence assaults the Star Killer like normal, but with Poe and Rey (and Chewie) sneaking onto the planet to take down the shields and rescue Finn
>Phasma confronts Finn while he's being held captive
>Finn eventually manages to escape (maybe talks the Storm Tropper guarding him into helping him get free)
>Everything else plays out pretty much how it did in the film, only maybe have Poe go back to the Millenium Falcon and use that to take down the Star Killer
>In the final confrontation with Kylo Finn gets wrecked same as before
>Rey only uses a single blade on her saber to fight Kylo
>Rey loses her left hand in her fight against Kylo, but then manages to stab him in the side when she unexpectedly activates the second blade in her lightsaber
>After the ground splits and they're seperated, Poe comes back in the Millenium Falcon to pick up Rey and Finn
>Scene of Hux and Phasma getting Kylo into a ship and escaping
>Rey gets a robot hand and then goes to Luke for training
>>63894719
>tr-8r
>traitor
Jesus i just realized this
>>63908392
>>63908417
dank OC
>>63908392
This just made me realize Slavoj Zizek is inevitably going to comment on The Force Awakens and now I can't wait for it.
>>63908714
I sure am ready for some ideology
What I'd do:
>Turn Kylo into a Char clone instead of a guy who throws baby tantrums every five minutes and make him play along with Han for the entire episode fooling everybody's expectations before killing him would have been more of a tweest
>Get rid of Snoke, Phasma,Rathtar and stormtroopers
>get rid of the Empire and have them as Empire supporters staging a coup and give them some motives which actually make sense and at least give some perspective on what is actually happening
>stop with the fucking homages at this point they're overwhelming the plot
Keep TR8R alive.
>>63908832
It would also be fun to have the Empire as the good guys for a change.
>>63908038
Well, you see, that's because TFA sucked shit.
>>63908049
It's obvious she's Revan
>>63892817
9.5/10
>>63892304
>I've been alive for a thousand years and let me tell you, no one is truly no one
So make her even omre Yoda ripoff. Like that movie not filled with ripoffs already.
>>63894582
>boba fett 2.0 should not be comic relief. she shouldnt have even been there if she wasnt going to do something badass. otherwise correct.
I bet she is escaping the starkiller base and and going mercenary while keeping armor, eventually ending up working for rebel alliance.
>>63906672
Him freezing the blaster bolt was cool though.
>>63893236
Good shit
Oh god...I just this last thursday sat down with my little sister while in for christmas and watched the whole original trilogy. She was so fucking entralled. She was intimidated by Vader...She was cheering with the gang...she can't get enough of Star Wars after SW, Empire, and Return.
But....I just can't buy her enough time of knowing these characters. I've been stressing that people have been waiting 3 decades for force awakens but...I can't let her live in a world whereHan is dead
I'm so emotionally confused
>>63894340
>Han, i am not your son
>>63897393
Why the fuck didnt they blew it up in the first place?
>>63895932
This.
>>63892088
I enjoyed the characters (Besides rey. Bad actor, bad character), and the effects/action sequences.
Honestly I would throw the script in the bin and start from scratch though. Also the editing was very poorly done, characters would disappear/reappear without any logic and the pacing between action/non-action scenes was way off.
Also the scorched earth marketing campaign is extremely tacky and makes you painfully aware the film is purely a money making machine.
>>63896166
Link?
>>63907528
He turned against his former comrades too fast, but that's not really Boyega's fault. He acted surprisingly better then expected.
Cut out scenes like the ones with the squid monsters so there's more time to slow down character arcs.
Maybe have Poe be prisoner for like a couple of weeks while Finn has time to grow to resent the Empire more and more.
Rey's character can be kept the same but give her the trait of pride and overconfidence in her abilities. Maybe even make her try to execute a scared Kylo who starts begging for his life.
Find someway to make everything seem less contrived. Maybe have Leia give the lightsaber to Rey and use some bullshit explanation for how she found it (maybe Lando somehow recovered it and gave it to her). Finding it in a random safe was stupid.
Also maybe make them only disable the Death Star III instead of blowing it up outright. Or just cut it out entirely.
>>63892088
>ITT: WE FIX TF
MAKE A MOVIE THAT FOLLOWS THE FUCKING EU BOOKS
Every other answer is wrong.
>>63892213
This. I would have liked to see "a day in the life of a storm trooper"
>>63910650
Yeah no. they were shit.
The 2 major problems I have are the lack of emotional impact for 2 important events.
1. The destruction of a whole planetary system (which may or may not include Coruscant. No one knows, because the characters never even discuss it)
2. Hans death
Both these things could be fixed with minimum additional screen time added. Seriously, allocate even a minute to these things, and your done.
For point 1, have people looking super depressed about the destruction of those planets. Maybe someone could reference how they had friends on one of the planets, which would give a good excuse for them to name that planet too. Time of scene: Maybe 20 seconds
As for Hans death. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED? No one even so much as mentions it after he dies. Maybe it's intended to be SOOO powerful that silence is all that's needed. But it's fucking stupid in actuality.
Add an emotional as fuck funeral scene for Han. I want the fucking works here. Carrie Fisher with tears streaming down her face. Chewie letting out the most emotional roar of all time. Someone making a deep speech about how fucking LEGENDARY this man was as all this is happening. And explicitly show that they only have a medal left to bury because his body would have been destroyed in the death star blast. I want the knife stuck right the fuck in to every super fan, so that they really feel the impact. Time of scene: 40 seconds
>>63892284
Better yet, completely remove Chewie, Han, Leia and the Falcon from the movie.
>>63893629
WILLLSOOOOOOOOON!
>>63911004
Just drop the Star Wars branding desu senpai desu
Dyp Kurron pilots starkiller base into a blackhole
>No happy end shot with all the heroes celebrating
Episode 1 and 4 had this.
>>63911522
>Poe and Finn broing it out
Nope it was there
Was Starkiller another space station or a planet carved out to fit the cannon?
If it was a planet, how does it move from one star to the next?
>>63911561
something like this, Episode 4 had the medal award celebration and Episode 1 had this blue ball ceremony.
>>63911666
The republic capital just blew up
It would kind of be in bad taste
1. Don't use so many cuts.
2. Make the cinematography more like OT.
3. Enough with the Bane-voice villain thing.
4. "Snoke" is not a villain name.
>>63911522
>Shot of Luke standing stoically
>Smash cut to Boyega's new rap single video written for the movie, a'la MiB
>>63911700
since when they moved it from Coruscant? I thought they blew up some no name system
>>63892088
Make Rey less of a Mary Sue with the force. Just make her a tech junkie scavenger who plays a Han SOlo-ish role.
Focus more on Poe and Phin. They made a great duo. They should have been the actual protagonists.
Have a fight scene between Poe & Phin and Kylo Edgelord Ren where they manage to defeat the edgelord with pure smarts and dumb luck, despite edgelord's supposed superior Force powers.
>>63910721
I'm expecting han's funeral to be in the next one, that way they can involve Luke in it somewhat
>>63912431
glad you're not in charge
>>63892088
put a character in the group who has unknown (yet) motivations like a Sith who works with the rebels
>>63912705
why
>>63912761
unkwnown goals
>>63910650
God no.
>>63912926
better then a rehash of episode 4
