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I never saw the Prequel Trilogy. Are they really as bad as everyone says or is it just a meme?
>>63849262
They're only bad compared to the OT, they are still decent movies and III especially is pretty fun
>>63849262
They're laughably bad. Some of the worst films I've ever seen.
They're worth watching just so you can watch the Plinkett reviews later
They're very different from the average cookiecutter Hollywood blockbuster, despite being similar to them on the surface(cgi action over substance). It's worth watching, there's some bizarre decision going on in that trilogy.
>>63849325
>some of the worst films I've seen
There are many hundreds of movies worse than them released each year
>>63849262
episode I is an unnecessary movie and not even a good one
II's romance is really bad
III's still kinda dumb but its the most enjoyable of the bunch
>>63849262
I is good II is garbage III is 90% filler scenes
>>63849262
The really are as bad as everyone says. The only people who disagree are people who grew up with them as kids and haven't watched them in 10 years and only remember them from when they were kids.
>>63849325
could you suck plinketts cock anymore lol go back to reddit kid.
They're bad. I'm not even a big Star Wars fan mad they were even made and what they did to the characters and all that noise. They're just bad movies.
>>63849262
they are all dreadful and this is coming from someone who thinks they're still better than TFA because they at least have some good/original ideas and scenes.
they are 100% worth watching once, then watch the Plinkett reviews and learn basics about filmmaking.
>>63849354
Yes but I don't watch those, in fact almost nobody does. The prequels are the worst studio released films I've seen in my adult life.
>>63849387
Brilliant argument, retard
They really are as bad as everyone says.
They're not just bad in terms of Star Wars or ploy holes etc etc.
They're just plain terrible as films. They look like warmed up garbage, have abysmal acting etc.
>>63849262
They're very distinct from the OT. They have poor direction, questionable acting for quite a bit of it, and odd choices in terms of how scenes progress.
But, the story they tell is interesting nonetheless (particularly in a world building sense), even if it's told very poorly, and it's very distinct from hollywood films stylistically, so that is an intriguing boon in itself.
Their musical scores are on par if not better than the OT though. So, if nothing else there is that.
>>63849477
So you've seen like a total of maybe 10 movies in your life
>>63849509
Or, more likely, the prequels really are that bad.
>>63849545
They are not, underage memer
All the capeshit movies puked out by hollywood for example are worse
They're badly written, boring, the characters suck, the CGI looks terrible and the main focus of the three movies (Anakin's downfall into Vader) is handled incredibly badly with him coming off as a whiny teenage cunt who listens to Linkin Park
They're worth watching because they're kind of fascinating in their awfulness, plus they make you appreciate the other films more
Also midichlorians
>>63849262
They are horrible
>>63849572
>>63849325
bonjour reddit!
>>63849262
1 and 3 are below average movies but at least have some redeeming qualities. They wouldn't be so universally reviled if they weren't attached to the Star Wars brand. Attack of the Clones is a legitimately terrible movie, though. Absolutely painful to watch.
Hating the prequels is a massive meme here.
>>63849262
They're bad. They're only utterly fucking terrible if you're an autist whose built their lives around the OT and basically wanted to have their mind scrubbed so they could watch it again.
But, yeah, they're kinda naff desu senpai.
>>63849653
unless you want to fuck natalie portman / padme hard like me
>>63849262
One and Two suck shit. But Revenge of the Sith is really good, dark and fun despite some clunky dialogue and silly acting.
>>63849572
So much this
Jar Jar is much more interesting than any capeshit character ever
>>63849262
Completely discard episode I apart from the Maul fight.
Entirely trash Anakin/Padme romance scenes in II.
Do the same in III.
There, I fixed the prequels.
1 > 2 > 3 in that order. If you believe otherwise you are a cringey teenager.
>>63849262
They're really fucking bad. Terrrible use of terrible CGI and shitty character writing is the main problem.
>>63849620
Capeshit is honestly on another tier of awful in their monotonous, tension-less, sterile, quip filled, musically weak, cgi-filled garbage. Not to say the prequels are necessarily good, but TPM in all of its boring, overly drawn out bullshit didn't make me want to kill myself, unlike shit like Avengers 2.
>>63849620
movies aren't good/bad on a single scale. they can be worthwhile and shitty in literally every individual way imaginable in any combination.
the prequels are incompetent trainwrecks, not bland product.
You know how everyone shits on FFXIII as being the worst game ever? You know how it's actually fairly decent with well-done art design, a thoughfully-implemented battle system, and a top-notch soundtrack?
You know how everyone shits on Enterprise as the worst tv show ever? You know how it's actually fairly decent, with well-written characters and a focus on examining the kinds of social and philosophical dilemmas that Star Trek is known for?
It's like that. Hating it is a meme.
>>63849506
Also; Part 3 at least contains the bones of an interesting story.
Like Thr Hobbit trilogy it's one long films worth matetial really badly stretched into three.
And like The Hobbit its just a regular bad film on all other levels.
>>63849572
Not him, but that's just blatantly false.
Most capeshit is lazy unimaginative scripts competently filmed.
The Prequels are truly awful just as productions. Really poorly made films. SyFy tier at times.
>>63849823
Compared to the average game FF XIII might be decent, but it's a shabby FF game
Just like how episode II is a terrible star wars movie, but compared to all movies still an enjoyable enough watch
>>63849823
I have no ide what those things are, but if they are as bad as the prequels then hating them is no meme. It's just not being blind, deaf and retarded.
>>63849262
I'm watching them again now.
>The CGI has aged really poorly.
>The loves scenes between Anakin and Padme look like an HD porno you might see today.
>Cinematography is terrible, no use of geometry in any of the action and every dialogue only comprises of shot reverse shot.
I still like them though. They add to the lore of Star Wars, my favorite part of Star Wars, and give us nice worlds to immerse ourselves in. They have actually matured the dichotomy between the Jedi and Sith and added gray areas between them, good stuff for a teenager but in your 20s you are way too old for it. But George Lucas was just too damn ambitious with the Prequels but he didn't know how to fit the back story of Darth Vader in 3 movies 2 hours and 16 minutes each. They follow little conventions of films or the structures used in the original so the story looks allover the place with multiple narratives that transitions between them poorly. The content and the story George Lucas wanted to tell in the Prequels are great but his execution was poor giving it the bad reputation among movie goers.
>>63849545
No, I find it highly likely that a /tv/ poster hasn't seen enough movies to make a founded opinion about one or another.
>>63849867
> compared to other movies
Compared to other movies the prequels are garbage.
You have to sink down to Transformers levels to find equally poor blockbusters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXaDtAtpLPs
>>63849823
>/v/ermin cancer
>shit taste
Woah
>Darth Vader takes most of the space on the cover
>literally 20 seconds of screentime throughout the entire trilogy
>>63849711
When I found out that Jar Jar was supposed to be legit evil I got pissed. Maybe if Lucas had his way episode 2 wouldn't be so bad and 3 would be even better.
>>63849867
Yes, that's what I said.
>>63849925
>ide
>Calling others retarded
Back in your cage.
They're not the worst movies ever made but they have lots of issues.
One big issue is the overuse of CGI. You know how in cinematics for video games they usually have fully rendered characters and 2D art background (Blizzard likes to do this a lot)? These films pioneered that. Obviously, that look does not translate well to film at all (specially when characters just stand still in front of a green screen talking).
For me though, the films are just plain boring to watch and some would consider that their biggest sin. Can't even make fun of them when they are a snorefest to get through.
>>63850008
>Darth Vader isn't in the new sequel trilogy at all
>movie is literally marketed around a character who looks like him and his actual melted helmet
gee whiz
>>63850010
I seriously hope Snoke turns out to be Jar Jar tbf
>>63850014
> compares cinema to video games
> tells others to get back in their cages
Please go back to /v/.
Everytime a fucking pleb buster gets shat out in cinemas you filthy casuals come and shit up our board.
If you think the prequels are anything but poorly made garbage you don't know film. It's honestly that simple.
>>63849929
I don't understand the people who say that the CGI aged poorly. The character work is as top-notch as ever. The environmental work is pretty obvious CG, but I admire the thought put into the design work, and I can accept it as the decidedly unrealistic moving painting that it is.
If I needed it to be ultra-real, I'd want it 60FPS+ anyway.
>>63850015
> More video game shit
Go home /v/.
>>63849262
>I never saw the Prequel Trilogy. Are they really as bad as everyone says or is it just a meme?
They really are.
Episode I is completely and utterly unnecessary with Anakin as a child.
The entirety of Episode I should have been summed up in 20 minutes and added to Episode II
Episode II needed to focus a lot more on character dynamics and the inner struggle of Anakin - more Clone-Wars esque type of a story/campaign.
Episode III was the best of the OT and had the bones of an actual story + themes that connected to IV, V and VI. All it needed was a bit more work and development from Anakin.
The idea was there, and it was brilliant - but it was utterly ruined by a lack of direction and decisions on George Lucas' part.
prequels are worth it for obi-wan alone already
>>63850180
no he is right
some cgi in prequels is really bad, the kind of "this takes me out of the immersion" bad
No it's a meme. When the Episode I came out, the reviews were very positive. It's only a few years later that people suddenly found minor defaults (I don't like Jar Jar! Ewoks? Great!). It went the same for the other two and I'm sure it'll be the same for Star Wars Awakens.
Mark my words : in five-six years, everybody is gonna say : 'Rey? What a fucking Mary Sue! Who liked this character, seriously?'
>>63850154
I'm saddened that they took analogy questions out of the SATs, because apparently the underageb& kiddies don't recognize them anymore. I wasn't comparing the quality of films and games, I was drawing a parallel between their reception and relatively quality within their own spheres, you absolute troglodyte.
>>63849627
>>63849387
Hey, remember how back in 2010 a new plinkett review came out and it was stickied on /tv/? Remember the times before reddit was ever uttered on /tv/?
No? Well I guess I expected too much from newfags.
>>63850180
Because they lazily and unnecessarily use CGI. The blocking is laughably bad which just accentuates and highlights it.
It's not really the quality of the effects, it's the terrible amateur directing.
>>63850254
>Mark my words : in five-six years, everybody is gonna say : 'Rey? What a fucking Mary Sue! Who liked this character, seriously?'
Cept people are already saying that since shes an incredibly boring character.
There is nothing wrong with Mystery in a film but absolutely NONE of her skills are explained and she accomplishes way too much for being a fucking uneducated slave girl.
The amount of excuses coming out because "it'll be explained later!" is ludicrous. Even as part of a trilogy - each movie should stand on its OWN as a good film. Introducing villains with unknown motives and leaving them unknown is a fucking travesty to storytelling.
>>63850180
That horrible rock formation.
>>63850336
brotip : the entire utapau location was an actual miniature set
>>63850254
I literally saw a grown man cry in anger after leaving The Phantom Menace.
The forums were full of shill accusations because it was immediately hated by fandom AND regular film fans didn't understand how critics were giving a free pass to a terrible film, much like The Avengers pr other crap now.
You are underage b&
It's okay. I never understood why older guys didn't like Jedi either.
>>63850329
>for being a fucking uneducated slave girl
but she isn't an uneducated slave girl
>>63850221
Well, I've personally been jumping back and forth "in time" between films of differing eras as far as special effects are concerned, and so I've learned to turn off the part of my brain that screams, "That's fake!" and pay more attention to the part that asks, "Is this compellingly-designed/beautiful?" And so whenever I look at a cityscape of Naboo, with its complete lack of SSS and AO and all the other crazy lighting tech that's come along since, I still think, "Well, holy shit, I would like to visit there, it's quite pretty."
>>63850254
> Mark my words : in five-six years, everybody is gonna say : 'Rey? What a fucking Mary Sue! Who liked this character, seriously?'
They are already saying it. Just like they immediately said "what the fuck is this Jar Jar thing!?" after Phantom Menace.
>>63849325
>the prequels are awful!
>plinkett told me so!
helloooo reddit!
>>63849325
prequel haters are the same people who became seahawk fans in 2013
>>63850382
>but she isn't an uneducated slave girl
Care to explain what she is then outside of being a scavenger for parts and barely living on a desolated desert planet?
>inb4 repressed memories meme of a 5 year old girl having repressed insane skills
>>63850296
Explain. People keep saying it's bad, and I haven't heard a single explanation as to why.
>>63850374
I've seen some hardcore fans basically weeping over TFA online, though the reaction is definitely more positive overall than what you're describing.
>>63850336
Whenever they used this room it looked like piss.
>>63850290
Plinkett reviews make me understand the prequels hate but made be also realize that the originals are not so great either. I never enjoyed Star Wars for the characters, Han Solo isn't the coolest guy to me and farm boy Luke is not someone I identify with. Star Wars is good because it has an interesting universe and the Prequels gave more of it.
What gave us even more was the EU. I am still so pissed this got cancelled after a few months Disney bought Lucas Arts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQyGu4EqZsU
>>63850262
You seem to have missed the point.
The fact that your point of comparison is video games and video game reception means you're a fucking retard who plays and cares about video games (and probably comes from /v/).
>>63850336
I don't see what's wrong with it. It's a rock wall. It gets the point across. I'm more concerned with the color direction, which is nicely-done.
>>63850458
>I've seen some hardcore fans basically weeping over TFA online, though the reaction is definitely more positive overall than what you're describing.
This.
Don't get me wrong TFA is a far sight better than the prequels. However Narrative-wise and Lore-wise it fails rather terribly.
>>63849325
reddit cunt
How about you actually get your own opinion instead of mindlessly parroting Mike Stoklasa you sad sack of shit?
>>63849262
Episode I is shit but at least feels like a Star Wars film and is somewhat fun to watch
Episode II is complete cringe inducing dogshit
Episode III is good because of Ewen's Performance and Sheev, it's honestly the only one of the three that's genuinely good
>>63850374
You were in contact with a little too much of manchildren. I see it didn't change.
>>63850435
>Care to explain what she is then outside of being a scavenger for parts and barely living on a desolated desert planet?
She isn't a scrap metal merchant. If she was her goods would have been sold by weight. She is a trained greasemonkey who knows what each part she finds is for and how it works, as that is the only way she would identify parts that are worth recovering. Also, she knows the internals of the Falcon, owned by her employer. This suggests that she was tasked with its repair and maintenance in the past.
>>63850440
It was already stated elsewhere itt.
Static wide shots with poorly timed edits for action scenes and shot, reverse, shot for all other scenes, like cheap TV.
There are times where more effort is put in (that's what it honestly feels like at times...a director who doesn't care) like the Darth Maul intro.
The performances are also terrible, and most of these actors are capable and have demonstrated this before and since. So I'd blame Lucas.
>>63849867
The only Star Wars movies that are like Star Wars movies are 4, 5, and 1.
>>63850459
The Skywalker residence, the CGI was crap and whatever was real looked cheap and made of plastic. It has shitty interior deign too. disappointing since the Naboo palace in Episode 1 what ever prequels Tatooine set weren't so bad
>>63850491
looks like video game graphics
>>63850369
Most of Utapu scenes looked great. That scene Obi Wan was involved riding his monster thing, so obviously there were some computer graphics involves, and it looked bad.
>>63850606
>This suggests that she was tasked with its repair and maintenance in the past.
Completely agreeable.
But doesn't explain absolute shit about how she is able to fly it adeptly through the ruins of a Star Destroyer vs trained Stormtrooper Pilots.
>>63850471
>You seem to have missed the point.
Hey, buddy, that's my line.
Do you honestly not understand how analogies work? If I were to put out two piles of gold of differing size and two piles of fertilizer of differing size and point to the biggest of each set and say, "In terms of gold and in terms of shit, these are more valuable, respectively," would you actually say to me, "OMG HOW CAN YOU COMPARE GOLD TO SHIT?!"?
Because if you would, that would make you an imbecile.
I just watched all 6 episodes for the first time last week to prep for 7, since friends and family have been pushing me to watch the series since forever.
I liked all of them--they were fairly mediocre throughout, with the occasional odd burst of genuine Good Shit rising up out of the blue here and there. Here's my ranking:
V > VI > III > IV > II > I
The OT was definitely more consistent, and overall more enjoyable, but it could be just as fucking boring as the prequels minus the wooden acting, which apparently Lucas demanded of the actors, anyway (no idea why).
But for all the shit thrown at the prequels, there was still genuinely entertaining stuff strewn throughout. Pod-racing and Maul were cool in I, and I didn't dislike II as much as everyone else did. Chasing the assassin into the bar, the bar itself, Obi Wan vs Bounty Hunter Fett, and the arena were some memorable highlights, personally.
The monster and vehicle designs were pretty fucking great in the prequels, too. Holy shit was the branding strong in those things. I felt like a kid who wanted a new toy every time a new fucking monster/alien poppped up.
if you like odd sci fi films with a decent budget they're good
i personally enjoyed them. they have a lot of charm. but when you get to the core if it, they are not that good.
i'd give em a 6.5/10 as a trilogy
>>63850634
>those statues.
The Chancellor's room looked worse in episode 3 than it did in episode 2. I guess they had to drop the quality since they spent all their time doing the fight scene's CGI. Also the prequels probably made Hollywood realize they had to get smarter with their action sequences and going bigger wasn't better. Then we got Fast and Furious 4-7, great action scenes because they were bold enough to go full retard.
>>63850616
>Static wide shots with poorly timed edits for action scenes and shot, reverse, shot for all other scenes, like cheap TV.
I mean, give me an example. How are they poorly timed? What do they do that's wrong and what would be better? More importantly, how does the OT do it better?
I mean, half the complaints about TFA are that it feels like Abrams slapped a Star Wars logo on top of his usual way of doing things, and the most prominent thing that jumps out at me about how he'd do things differently than Lucas is... wait for it... the editing.
The prequels had some good stuff you'll never see again in this franchise. Dead younglings, podracing, actual Jedi and large scale Jedi fights, politics, interesting planets that aren't rehashed desert, forest and snow, to name a few.
>>63850690
I don't know why people shit on I so much. I would take Jar Jar and now THIS is podracing kid over emo shit anakin, the worst writing on the franchise in 2 and 3, forced romance and a couple lightsaber battles any day of the week. At least I was fun.
>>63849965
Even Transformers has better dialogue and acting than the prequels.
>>63849506
This. I don't really get the defense patrol of the prequels ITT. So much contrariarism it hurts.
>>63851107
>Dead younglings
might see it in flashbacks since it's already mentioned Kylo sandy hook'd Luke's other pupils
>podracing
that was fucking terrible though
>actual Jedi and large scale Jedi fights
while cool in concept it was really badly depicted and probably shouldnt be tried again in the movies since it takes away from how special lightsabers and rare Jedi are meant to feel, better for that sort of pure spectacle stuff to be in the spin-off cartoons and video games
>politics
had some ok moments (so this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause) but was mostly boring and nonsensical (politicians who dont want to take military action appoint a guy whos stance is to take military action so he can take military action, good plan Sheev)
>interesting planets that aren't rehashed desert, forest and snow
I really loved the look of the planet we finally find Luke on at the end so hopefully there will be more new places like that
>>63849295
Yes, the OT exists so that makes "Now THIS is podracing!" and other shit like Jar Jar bad right?
