Could someone post that gif/webm that showed the fight between finn and sith guy?
Was 20-30 seconds long.
Wife can't believe me how terrible it is.
that wasn't the main fight though
>>63782082
>Wife can't believe me how terrible it is.
>>63782082
but it was fine. finn got rekt as he should
>>63782154
How terrible the combat looked, sith guy looked.
And while Finn does get taken out, the fact he stands upto Kylo for more than 5 seconds is unbelievable.
>>63782082
I saw episode VII with my wife and her son, they both loved it but I consider it nothing but a glib facsimile of episode IV
>>63782213
>A small webm of a shitty cam recording of a movie looks terrible
No wonder
>>63782082
Your wife is right and your an autist
Why didn't dindu just sucka punch that white boy?
>>63782082
it was fine. my only problem was the music. it was just generic forgettable star wars theme, when it desperately needed new Duel of fates.
>>63782213
I thought it was handled really well have you ever watched the fucking movie?
>>63782082
>black man gets blown the fuck out
>nothing on /tv/ about it
how come?
>>63782677
Probably because /tv/ knew he wasn't force sensitive, but reddit crossposters kept saying we were racist for thinking a black man couldnt be a jedi. /tv/ then proceeded to fuck with redditors with racism. Now that redditors were BTFO /tv/ doesn't give a shit about finn anymore
OP here -
Found it after scouring the archive again.
Fact a non force sensitive character can last more than the first flurry is bs.
That he can even use a lightsabre is bullshit.
That he actually lands a fucking hit against a trained sith as well with said lightsabre just crossed the line.
>>63782995
this is worse than any prequels shit
>GOOD GUYS HAVE OVERCOME IMPOSSIBLE ODDS BUT ARE STILL GAURANTEED TO WIN xD xD
its worse than fucking avengers
>>63782995
Did he died?
>>63783322
coma
>>63782995
it's a movie for children
what do you want
>>63782995
>That he can even use a lightsabre is bullshit.
Lots of non force sensitives can use lightsabers, though. It's not like they detect the force and suddenly turn on, it's just the force gives you mary sue powers.
>thinking this much about a family movie
>claiming to be married
Autistic sperg.
>>63783371
consistency with existing canon.
>>63782995
kylo sucks and wouldnt of had anyone to fight with his sword
he was also wounded and bleeding out
Luke had to go up against Anakin
>>63782995
>only jedi can use lightsaber
>trained sith
Haha watch the movies you fucking idiot
>>63782995
>trained sith
No
>>63782082
>Wife can't believe me how terrible it is.
It's a force sensitive trained since childhood against a former stormtrooper. What did you expect?
you guys are being stupid autistic about this movie. Like I honestly hope you kill yourself.
>>63782995
Did he seriously pound his fist on his chest?
>>63783259
> its worse than fucking avengers
That is exactly what it is now.
Lucasfilm = Marvel Studios
Star Wars = capeshit
>>63782995
more like
>untrained sith wannabe barely standing on his feet
>>63783495
watch the movie asshole. jesus
>>63783495
He's pounding a wound that chewie shot in him,
looks retarded
>>63783495
Chewbacca shot him to his side and his punching the wound.
>>63783530
no fuck you.
>>63783533
>>63783531
I don't know if that's worse or better honestly. Either way, it looked dumb. Pain = power blah blah. Still dumb.
>>63782995
That looks great to me. Fast yet very weighty.
>>63782995
>bad guy is a white male
>good guy is an heroic black male,
>hero of the movie is heroic white girl who falls in love with the heroic black male
POETRY
>>63783596
Yay. Score one for the social justice!
>>63782498
>her son
hey I have a pet I dont want. Do you want to raise it too?
>>63783566
back2reddit
>>63782650
wtf?
a sith trained by the strongest jedi in history and sith lords for all his life barely defeat an idiot who was working for sanitation and fucked up on his first battle...
just to get obliterated by a girl that found out she had powers 20 minutes ago
>>63783666
>sith
When will this meme end?
>>63783495
I imagined it as the equivalent as he had blood in his lungs and was trying to cough it out.
No reason to think that pounding your chest will cure that blaster shot to your kidney but that was my head cannon
>>63783596
they dont fall in love
Last words she says" thanks my friend" or something like that.
The whole movie he tries to make a move on her. She dismiss the dude every single time.
He holds her hand to run
"let go of my hand" this happens like 3 times
Do you have a boyfriend? Is he handsome?
That's none of your business
Black guy is comedy relief and gets friendzoned the whole movie. So /tv/ should actually relate to him
>>63783700
fine - dark jedi.
semantic enough for you?
>>63782995
wow that red lightsaber looks COOL AS FUCK. I can't believe people were talking shit about it, looks fucking amazing.
>>63783447
>>63783455
>>63783471
yes sure untrained
because he wasn't trained by the strongest jedi in history since he was a kid and then by sith lords...
because he wasn't able to stop a fucking laser beam at mid-air...
>>63783765
Come on man, we have to say the things as they are, this is a discussion board, as autistic as it sounds.
>>63782213
He was fucking shot. It's like people didn't even watch the fucking movie /tv/ is such a shit board
>>63783666
Yeah, let's just ignore that Chewbaca shot him dead on, and he just finished kicking Finn's ass.
Let's pretend he was at peak health so we can shit post on /tv/
>>63783920
let's pretend that a dark jedi that trained for like 20 years isn't able to explode an idiot the was working for santation and a girl that barely knows how to turn on a light saber....
even if he was missing both legs and 1 arm he was supposed to destroy them
>>63784013
yeah, simply force push finn into a tree, then force push him into the ground until he resembles a pancake.
done.
>>63783757
He was doing it to cause more pain. Pain fuels the dark side.
>>63784013
The fact that he didn't use the Force against Finn is literally the only argument.
He got shot. He wasn't at full ability. He was wounded and had his mind focused on surviving as well as killing them.
Trained with who? He doesn't even have a proper lightsaber I doubt Snoke is doing more aside from putting him in tests.
Finn is swinging a sword. That's it.
>>63782995
just fucking face close ups all the time, choreography was shit
>>63784150
doesnt luke train him initially?
>>63782995
But the lightsaber fights were good though.
I prefer it to the prequels with all their choreographed flipping and spinning which looks like shit. It reminded me more of the fights from the original trilogy.
>>63784150
>He wasn't at full ability. He was wounded and had his mind focused on surviving as well as killing them.
>Trained with who? He doesn't even have a proper lightsaber I doubt Snoke is doing more aside from putting him in tests.
>Finn is swinging a sword. That's it.
he was strained both by luke and the sith so cut the bullshit about the training
and now what's the point of training a jedi when the first idiot that comes by can keep up with them without any training?
the wound excuse is bullshit...he was able to walk(he was actually able to chase them) and swing his sword...they weren't supposed to last more than 2 seconds
>>63784268
of course, people who say he wasnt trained didnt pay much attention
he had years of training
>>63782995
Got any more footage? Rey vs Kylo or Ooga Booga vs Riot Storm Trooper?
>>63784582
https://a.pomf.cat/euoiny.mp4
Here's the whole thing. Finn's and Rey's fights.
>>63784582
no, i found this on a thread posted earlier today.
Make a webm of Rey meditating in the middle of a fight and Kylo just staring at her. That's gonna be an entertaining one.
why don't you ask your wife's son?
>>63784683
yes that was retarded too...
Best fight in the movie was Finn and that Storm Trooper at the smuggler castle was the best.
Nigga just drops his gun and fights him on the spot.
"Traitor!"
>>63784639
>https://a.pomf.cat/euoiny.mp4
Wow, what a load of shit.
Was it me or was Rey starting to get a little too aggressive at the end?
>>63784492
>trained both by luke and the sith
Luke sure, BUT THERE ARENT ANY SITH ANYMORE GODDAMN
>>63784845
whats snoke? gray jedi?
>>63784639
You can't be serious. Kylo is a fucking wimp.
> hurrdurr I'm gonna be a Sith Lord
Hahaha, oh fuck. I know Rey is strong with the Force and shit but it was all about the skill here.
>>63784879
They're not Sith lords, they're Knights of Ren.
>>63784639
A normal russian dub? I thought they stilll used voice over.
>>63784492
Bear in mind Luke was always shit with a saber cause he never had a good saber teacher, Obi Wan died before he could properly train him
Even a Prequel Era padawan could beat him in a straight up saber duel
>>63782995
did he do a spin 20 seconds in?
>>63784904
I know, Sith Lords are no more. But for fucks sake, Dark Side users had some standards. He's just a whiny bitch with a red lightsaber.
>>63784915
yes he was bad...he was only able to keep up vs darth vater the strongest sith in history..not a big feat...
>>63784973
Who would win in a fight? Anakin pre-arms and leg chopped off vs Mace Windu?
>>63782082
>>63782213
>>63783666
knowing that some people can be this retarded makes me feel better about myself
>>63782995
Ah yes, here we a trained dark jedi/sith fight against his rival, a trained jedi who stands for g-... wait. His adversary is just some random black guy who has a lightsaber? How is this fight lasting this long? It's SHIT.
>>63782995
>lightsabers have momentum
how?
>>63784973
>He was younger
>Stronger in the force cause half his body wasn't burnt to a crisp
>Darth went easy on him knowing it was his son
Raw talent and luck pulled Luke through those duels not skill
>>63784988
anakin
>>63784988
>Mace Windu
don't know
don't care
don't see the point
i don't get it how was the storm trooper able to fight? I thought lightsabers went through everything except another lightsaber?
>>63783398
that canon no longer exists
>>63785014
magnet focused/shaped plasma somehow has mass.
*shrugs*
>>63782995
Does anyone else notice that Kylo's sabre seems much too heavy for him? why would it be heavy the only heavy bit is the hilt right?
also if he is struggling with it so much why doesn't he use the one he inevitably must have used in training with Luke? Anakin used his blue one for a while once he had become Vader and went to Mustafar. If I remember correctly his lightsabre got rekt by Rey at the end of their fight so maybe he will make a new one? or Snoke will organise one for him
>>63784639
Wow, Rey sure lunges and thrusts with that thing a lot. One would think that someone who was trained by Luke and sith lords would know how to counter this easily.
>>63785054
darth vader wasn't going easy on him...and was still a beast (i don't think he was kept there just as a mascot)
>>63785084
in EU there are certain alloys that can deflect lightsabre blasts.
Don't think it was ever established in movie canon.
>>63784988
Mace
>>63782995
you have to remember the jedi and sith at the time didnt have much training to work with or mastery to achieve since the jedi were wiped out. the skills of post empire jedi likely at a low standard of pre-empire jedi.
it was probably as equal a fair fight as could possibly have been. either one could have won.
>>63783569
>weighty
>lightsaber
>>63785084
>>63785134
Magna Guards and their stuffs.
>>63785134
episode 3
>>63785131
darth vader died... he was blown up in the death star...unless luke saved him..luke saved him didnt he?
>>63785190
I thought it was the plasma beam/purple energy that deflected the lightsabre attacks in ep3.
Maybe I need to rewatch it.
>>63784910
sounds italian toobeehonest
>>63785104
they'll have to science the shit out of that one, eh reddit?
>>63785104
>stream of charged particles
>has momentum like its made of steel
hate on th eprequels as you want but ta least they got this right
>>63785014
yes its retarded
Turning my autism on for a moment here. In reality I think fighting style with weapon like this would probably be similar to fencing. Swinging it widely from side to side just seems pointless.
>>63783371
who has ever implied that star wars is a movie for children
>>63785253
>https://a.pomf.cat/euoiny.mp4
it's not italian
>>63784639
does shaky cam and loads of CGI set to orquestra feel weird to anyone else?
>>63785344
considering they require no force to penetrate/do damage, you are absolutely right
it would literally just be fencing. swinging accomplishes nothing and just leeaves you wide open
>>63785379
>"The movies are for children but they don't want to admit that... There is a small group of fans that do not like comic sidekicks. They want the films to be tough like The Terminator, and they get very upset and opinionated about anything that has anything to do with being childlike."
- George Lucas
>>63785180
Plus, Kylo Ren was shot by Chewbacca and his super powerful crossbow. They made sure to illustrate how powerful it was several times throughout the movie. It was literally knocking Stormtrooper off their feet. Kylo Ren takes one of thise shots to his side. He's shown bleeding profusely. Its a pretty good bet that he wasnt anywhere near 100% fighting capability.
>>63785462
george lucas never said that
>>63782995
Did you conveniently left out the fact that Kylo was shot with a blaster before that and was basically limping the entire fight?
>>63785524
shouldnt these blasts cause just burns tho ?
>>63782213
Fin is a trained soldier and Kylo was badly hurt.
can someone post the webm of han's encounter with kylo?
>>63782995
Well that could have been a lot worse. At least no one was wire fighting.
>>63785540
I guess that's why there are tons of merchandising toys with those movies
>>63784639
That zen moment was fucking dumb
>>63783392
>non force sensitives can use lightsabers
wrong. it's canon that they can't control them. pic related
>>63783596
she friendzoned him
>>63785524
the wookie crossbow IS canoncially a powerful weapon. but ive never known it to explode on impact. its charged plasma beams. >>63785590
yes.
>>63783495
that was hisFIRST ORDER REPRESENTIN' LIL' NIGGAmoment
The entire fight is absolutely amazing. Especially after the shit that is RotS.
You can see all the anger and strenght they put into every swing. The best thing however is the slicing. They cut everything in their path and themselves.
>>63785126
Why don't you watch the movie, cuck? You'd know he was shot and barely moving.
>>63782082
>>63785648
and somehow Han managed to slice open a tauntaun in episode 5
>>63785660
i really dont care dide i just wanted to part of the meme
>>63785648
I guess somebody forgot to tell Grievious.
>>63785648
>Canon that...
Sorry friendo, your canon is gone.
>>63782995
Didn't watch the movie, but that was pretty good. Not too much acrobatics, or too fast, and to the point.
>>63785729
he just holds it away from his body, and slices 2 foot across.
Compare that to combat? whole different kettle of fish.
>>63785740
grievus was biologically force sensitive. that sensitivity diminsished as he became more mechanical, which is why he uses 4 lightsabres to compensate.
fuck its liek you dont even like star wars.
>>63783764
It's called tsundere, baka.
>>63785777
>precise cutting motion
>is control
>>63783789
He's not even a fucking Sith. He's some fuckwit.
>>63785584
So how did he manage to catch them up if he was so badly injured?
>>63783773
It looked like it was made by someone that a had a rudimentary understanding of how lightsabers worked but not the techinical expertise to make it perfect. The jagged effect to it, the way the air kind of distorts around it when he holds it to Rey's face...nice little details that kind of add character to it.
>>63782995
>Fact a non force sensitive character can last more than the first flurry is bs.
>That he can even use a lightsabre is bullshit.
>That he actually lands a fucking hit against a trained sith as well with said lightsabre just crossed the line.
This so damn much.
I fucking raged internally as this was taking place.
>>63783569
being skilled with a weightless blade make more sense. you need more control over your movements.
>>63785857
Being pumped like mcconaughey in Wolf of Walgreens
>avoid internet until the premiere in my city
>watch movie, like it very much
>go back to the internet
>4chan shits on it, or at least the shitposters post as loudly as possible
>YOU'RE WRONG IF YOU LIKE THIS MOVIE, WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!
How many weeks does it usually take until this shit simmers down?
>>63783371
A literal cartoon for children has better fight scenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVk9lPotcW4
>>63785904
It never does. They can't accept the fact that TFA is a great movie.
>>63785904
I feel you, anon. I really do. ;_;
>>63784915
The prequel era lightsaber instructors had a fucking hard on for spins and backflips--things that are beyond stupid in a sword fight. Just because Luke didn't do that gay shit doesn't make him a poor duelist. He did beat Vader.
>>63785875
didnt kylo get shot by the walking carpet in the fucking dick yo? shit must hurt
>>63785904
>avoid internet until the premiere in my city
>watch movie, dont like it very much
>go back to the internet
>4chan praises it, or at least the shitposters post as loudly as possible
>YOU'RE WRONG IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS MOVIE, WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!
See? I can shitpost, too.
>>63785904
>YOU'RE WRONG IF YOU DISLIKE THIS MOVIE, WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!
How many weeks does it usually take until this shit simmers down?
>>63785904
Leave us already, tourist
Epsiode 7 isn't an invitation for you to post here
>>63785943
That sucks. And i thought they would like a shiny burning middle finger in the direction of George Lucas. TFA is like "Hey Lucas, you suck, look at this!"
And Lucas is like "THIS IS NOT POETRY, IT NEEDS TO RHYME"
>>63785054
In my experience there's no such thing as luck.
>>63785904
It's actually the opposite. The majority is defending this piece of crap.
>>63785974
Kylo was able to prevent the blaster ray shot at him using the force. Why couldn't he just disarm useless black kid with the force? It doesn't make sense.
>>63785904
>avoid /tv/ for weeks
>watch movie
>mediocre and forgettable
>back to 4chan
>everyone agrees it's shit
>screenings in america
>suddenly a legion of shills come out to defend it
Are Americans the ultimate shitposters?
>>63785979
>>63785990
>>63785993
Go back to reddit, rebel scum
>>63785904
I thought it was a good movie too, worthy of the originals, if not quite as good.
>>63785993
>Epsiode 7 isn't an invitation for you to post here
Enjoy every thread for several months, oldfam
>>63786045
kylo was bleeding out of his dick
imagine that shit for a second
>>63785857
Well he is still a force user.
>>63786068
>cant even meme
>>63785875
listen to me
you need to go outside
>>63784639
>fighting for your life with lightsabers
>talk to your enemie
>she closes her eyes
>allow her to concentrate or whatever
>what
what the fuck, can someone make sense of this
I just realized I could watch movies instead of coming here
bye forever
>>63786045
maybe he was using the force intensively to stop his bleeding.
>>63786134
as soon as her eyes closed, should've cunt punted her into the chasm.
>>63783495
This I have no problem with because I pounded wounds I had to make them hurt more than they should, then again I was in the Marines and so was the guy playing Ren
>>63784639
Why didn't Kylo kick her off the fucking edge while she was praying with eyes closed for like 10 seconds?
toppest kek
HOW DOES LAZER/PLASMA BLAST EVEN CAUSE BLEEDING ? HOW ?
>>63785904
Reminder to you newshits that think you're welcome here every flavor of the month movie
>new movie comes out
>no cine knowledge plebs come to /tv/ to talk about it and spew their optimistic and positive opinions about it
>the patrician regular posters either wait for for the rip or are in the minority
>the plebs leave because they have other boards to shitpost on
>all that's left are the regular /tv/ posters
>they usually hate it since movies like this tend to be shit
>cycle repeats when the YIFY torrent comes out but forces are more evenly matched this time
>>63785227
are you retarded
>>63786215
>I had to make them hurt more than they should
why ?
>>63786045
Don't try to use logic, it's just a kids movieeee!
Is there a full, working torrent for the whole movie or just these little clips?
>>63784639
Was great up until the Rey closing her eyes part
>>63786228
I'm confused. what did gramps say that made the girl sad?
>>63786258
> because plot
That's all you really have to go off of.
>>63786300
I am here since 2007. /tv/ has always been like that. Movie comes out? Shit on it. Other people like it? Shit on them. Soon everybody will drown in the shit that's emerging everywhere.
And they are right. So far every movie that has come out since the invention of cinema was shit.
>>63782498
Nate is that you
>>63783789
he said trained sith you fucking mongoloid. sith =/= dark jedi
>>63786430
Who thought thats a good idea? seriously... this was the last straw for me
>>63784639
man does not overpower the feminist woman fucking disgusting no one should pay for this garbage.
>>63786491
You're an idiot. There's never been a difference between a Dark Jedi and a Sith; the terms are interchangeable.
>>63786468
>johnny foreigner again
Since 2007? Last time you tried to pull this act you said 2009
What happened? did someone tell you when the board was actually created?
>>63786589
WHAT
Shit was pristine mediocrity. Too many jokey-jokes that were just flat out corny. Too much fan service for this intensely stupid fanbase that like seeing the same shit again and again.
First half was dope but the second half is just a collage of "HEY, REMEMBER THIS?" moments that just had me rolling my eyes.
Plus this hits the plot points of New Hope to the point that it gimps any type of real creativity with the universe.
And does anybody take care of their fuckin kids in this universe?
Niggas can get along with aliens; devise spaceships that can traverse galaxies in a blink of a second - but can't resolve baby daddy drama.
[Spoiler]But if my son were that cornball Kyle or whatever the fuck his name is, I'd drop him off n' never come back, either[/Spoiler]
6.2/10.
Shit was blase.
Won't even get into how much of a weenie Adam from Girls was in this shit.
>>63786308
to make the pain more tolerable when it goes to what it was.
>kylo ren struggling to even force pull luke's old lightsaber to him because he's hurt so bad
>BUT WHY DIDNT HE JUST FUCKING MURDER HIM WITH THE FORCE? SHIT MOVIE MAKES NO SENSE
>>63786645
You're done kiddo
Your lies are OVER
>>63786228
he was trying to convince her to join him
>>63786800
Since we talkin' stupid shit in the movie:
>storm trooper tosses his weapon aside to pull out his melee against Finn. Storm trooper literally had a gun in a knife fight but opted to swipe out his GUN for a knife of his own
>Said storm trooper is later shot by Han - SOMETHING THE TROOPER SHOULD'VE FUCKING DONE TO FUCKING FINN
>>63786879
yeah cause guns work so well against lightsabers
>>63782995
>trained sith
okay
>guy was shot in the chest
>killed his own father
>was really afraid about that fight
and you still wonder why he was defeated
>>63784639
>she closes her eyes in the middle of blade locking
>he just stares with "hmmm what is she doing?" expression
>>63786879
>BLASTERS WORK SO WELL AGAINST LIGHTSABERS GUYS
probably assumed he was a jedi
jedi can deflect blasters idiot
>>63786837
Which made no sense, seeing as how he had no problem trying to kill her up until that point.
Adam was such a fucking dork in this movie; he looked and seemed like that type of person that would annoy the fuck out of you.Was such a weird casting choice for the mildly aspburgers(or whatever the fuck that yakub shit's called) retard from Girls.
>>63786916
You have to be an actual jedi to deflect gun fire. And this is coming from someone that knows next to fuckall about Star Wars.
>>63786950
Except Jedis are treated as myths in this world and other storm troopers didn't have a problem shooting at him. That, and the storm trooper gave off an air of pompousness when he took out his melee weapon.
Stop making excuses for this fuckshit.
>>63787021
>Except Jedis are treated as myths in this world
This
If that was the case, when Finn pulled out the lightsaber why the hell would the trooper think to take him one on one instead of calling a focus fire on Finn seeing as the only other person who has a saber is Kylo Ren? Surely if the soldier was smart he would have recognized it and saw an immediate high threat
>>63784639
Twig girl wins what is effectively a sword fight against a master with her first try
Dum
>>63786879
He called him a traitor before trying to beat hime down. He must have known him... it felt very personal.
>>63787395
Felt very forced. You know, I'm not a Star Wars nerd; in fact, I generally dislike this white man(child) escapist bullshit -BUT- I think I have a general understanding as to how the Star Wars universe works.
Light sabers are cool n all, but they're still just fucking swords. If you aren't a jedi, light sabers are pointless.
So why in this movie did it seem like the two main leads always had a fucking lightsaber in their hands - especially since only one of them possesses the Force?
Should've limited the usage to only the bitch with the uggs using the light saber - and only in the last scene.
>>63783666
>Sith.
Watch the fucking movie. He isn't a sith yet.
>>63786800
Did you miss the part right before where he launches Rey across the field onto a tree?
Didn't seem to affect his force abilities.
>>63782082
so is kylo like the inverse luke? where he wants to be part of the darkside but is trying hard to fight off the lightside inside of him?
>>63787702
Yes
>>63785014
gyroscopic forces
>>63786228
Or maybe Kylo just couldn't because her Force was so strong?
You fucking faggots keep arguing about inane bullshit while forgetting that the Force doesn't exist and you cannot know how it affects the people using it and being the target of such use.
Maybe she radiated some sort of force that prevented him from acting effectively enough, so he decided to just stay put instead of trying to attack.
>>63787260
He isn't a master. Ren Is a pretender to the sith name, about as young as they are. He had training but we don't know how much, and he was injured.
>>63788184
we know that he was send to luke as a kid so he trained for like 20 years...
>>63788143
This then eliminates all suspense. Rey could overcome all her enemies with ease, hell she could have even have defeated Snoke in this movie and justified it with the force. You an justify anything with the force, it just deflates tension when the hero is so overpowered.
>>63785904
It's clockwork man
4chan literally does this every time for almost any hyped movie that isn't 10/10
>>63788184
>>63787260
And Rey has been living on a hostile world by herself her whole life and she is shown to be proficient with a staff weapon
Wait, so the nig isn't even force sensitive?
