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who is Snoke?
who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
why would Rey's parents leave her?
how is Rey so good with the force?
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>>63775627
>how is Rey so good with the force?
Because it's 2015
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>>63775627
>plagueis
>dunno, probably killed by kylo ren
>no clue
>stronkindependent
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>>63775627

luke is the father and leia the mother. that's why she is so strong.
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Poe is definitely special. All the talk about him being a good pilot it very Skywalker.

All in all, I didn't HATE the movie, but I really disliked what it did to the franchise. The soundtrack alone could've made the movie significantly better if it wasn't shit.

Also, ANH 0.8
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Rey is either Luke's daughter or Kylo Ren's sister. Both explain why she's so strong in the force.

Can't explain why they'd abandon her though. It would be great if she were unrelated to all those fuckers, just another example of some nobody using the force to shape their destiny. Not everyone needs to be a Skywalker or a Solo.

But this is JJ we're talking about, so she's undoubtedly someone's daughter.
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>>63775627
>Plagueis propably
>Luke I guess, dunno about momma
>Because she was evil and got memory wiped
>Because she was trained by Luke before. Is strong in force too.
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Also, when Rey told Han her name, he got all choked up. He definitely knows her.
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- Snoke is the corpse of Vader reanimate by an as-yet-unnamed malevolent force. Just think about it... They hint at a "Wizard of Oz" connection with the huge hologram, but the REAL man behind the curtain is the spirit from beyond that is animating Vader's corpse. Also, the scarring and everything are consistent with Vader's burnt body.

- Rey is Luke's daughter, of course. The mother was a fellow force-adept who we'll hear about in Episode VIII, but she died during the raid on the Academy. Luke has been mourning her in solitude.

- Rey's parents left her for lots of reasons. One, Luke was afraid of her power. Kylo going to the dark side was bad enough. Just imagine if Rey (who Luke knew was stronger) joined him. It would destroy the galaxy. As shitty a thing as it was to do, the greater good demanded it. Luke will have a hard time explaining this to her in Episode VIII.

- Rey is good with the Force because she's insanely powerful and she's had some training (prior to the academy being destroyed). She's even more powerful than Luke, we'll find. She's an Anakin-type figure, and the choices she makes will pretty much dictate the state of the galaxy. It's crucial she doesn't turn to the dark side, and Luke was willing to have her live out a shitty life scavenging junk to avoid it. He knows she has the potential to be far more powerful than he ever was.
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>>63775875
This. It's also what caused the Han to divorce Leia.

She was left on Jakku because she's an inbred embarassment to the Skywalker family.
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>>63775875
that's why she looks so weird
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Rey is Revan.
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>>63775627
Plagueis
Luke and an unknown
To save her from Kylo Ren
She was trained as a jedi before her memory was wiped to save her
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Anyone else want to just FUCK Rey?

There is something about her cheeks right next to her lips that makes them look ever so slightly chubby and puffy and I just want to feel those fat lips on mine
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It's a trilogy OMG you'll just have to wait and pay to see these answers :}
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>>63775963
Maybe she was one of Knights of Ren. Maybe she killed her mother.
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That "He is wise" line drop for Kylo wasn't like a big hint or anything.
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>>63775968
>wiping Rey's memory

Holy shit, that would completely confirm the KotOR allusions. Except even KotOR 1 had a better story than this, and that's saying a LOT.
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>how did rat lady find Luke's Lightsaber that fell off of cloud city in ESB?
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>>63776051
Luke got her caught and wiped her memory. Kylo escaped. Rey and Kylo are cousins. They both massacred the Jedi. Yes she is Revan.
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>>63776114
It will be explained in a coming comic please purchase friend :)
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See what I mean?
Look at that slight chub in the cheeks. So sexy.
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>>63775627
Some random nigger who was hiding out, biding his time, either that or he was a force sensitive who slowly delved into the dark side, maybe a secret apprentice of Palpatine.
Rey seems like Luke's daughter, but I'm pretty sure she's Han and Leia's. Dunno why they abandoned her though.
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>>63775908
Snoke is Rey's father
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>>63775963
Kylo = Dark Revan
Rey = Light Revan
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>>63775963
DESU, I hope that the Knights of Ren are rooted in the Order of Revan, and so the title of "Ren."

They don't need to go and fully make The Old Republic stuff canon, just offer some hints.

There are already some hints in the guides that got leaked.

Snoke believes Kylo to be the perfect balance of Light and Dark, which is what the Order of Revan strived to attain, and his Lightsaber design dates back to "the Great Scourge of Malachor," which was a pivotal location in the KotOR games.
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>>63776134
>Rey
>Revan
>Reyvan
pottery
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Did anyone else notice Rey's very Sheev fighting style? Not even kidding, no jedi has ever used stabbing so much.
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>>63776288
I did notice that. But finn also stabbed a lot. So maybe it's not really something to pick up on.
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>>63776288
It's because she's using it like a staff.
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Why won't anyone talk about Rey's sexy mouth with me
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>Luke is Rey's father
>Rey was at the academy as seen in the flashbacks (luke being with a young girl when the knights of ren unite)
>Luke had R2 with at the Academy so he obviously pulled a Kenobi and left her on Jakku and left R2 with Leia.
>Snoke is either a re-animated emperor or some unkown dark wielder from the past, but probably not Plagueis.
>Kylo obviously remembers or distantly remembers Rey
>Kylo will be the first person to not be redeemed and will be considered a Judas.
>Nib Nub will get more screen time


That or it will suck and the shitty breaking bad episodes and Brothers Grimm will come out and the next installments will ruin all hope, and the "Star Wars Stories" will destroy all hope in the franchise because decisions to do prequels of characters aren't good, and as much as a Han Solo prequel could work, we know enough of his past to not need a prequel because it's either to revoke the redemption he got in ANH and Empire or just be about him smuggling shit, instead they should focus on the main trilogy and work on other Lucasfilm properties.
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Anyone know any porn stars that look like Rey

I have some tension to release
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Did they really name a villain "Snoke"? Do we have two major villains named "Snoke" and "Sheev" now?

What the fuck.
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>>63776526
>probably not Plagueis
but he's wise, he looks like his EU self and his theme is literally the same played in the opera scene
there's just no way it isn't him
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>>63775627
>why would Rey's parents leave her?

Well if we assume that it is Luke, then i guess we could assume he left her there to hide her from the first order?
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>>63776621
If Luke successfully hid from the first order then he didn't need to leave her
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>>63776576
We all know where this is headed.
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>>63776576
Can't skeev the Sheev.
Couldn't broke the Snoke
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>>63775944

this is all retarded and probably true.
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>>63776526
those were flashes to the future you retard
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>>63776285
>Re(va)n
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>>63776526
>Luke had R2 with at the Academy so he obviously pulled a Kenobi and left her on Jakku and left R2 with Leia.

no he didn't

>Snoke is either a re-animated emperor or some unkown dark wielder from the past, but probably not Plagueis.

How would you re-animate the Emperor? That's stupid as hell.


>Rey was at the academy as seen in the flashbacks

I don't remember flashbacks I remember glimpsing the future because she super woman jedi
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>>63776576
Those sound like fucking goblin names straight out of a shitty D&D campaign.
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>>63775627
You'll have to watch EPISODE 8 to find out!!!!
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>>63776849
tell that to the EU which about 30 different Emperor clones.
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>>63775627
why dont you go read the books and find out?
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>>63776829
Yeah well obviously she's the big baddie, but either wore a mask, Kylo had his memory wiped as well, or she wasn't known to Kylo yet, just told about.
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>>63775627
>who is Snoke?
le new villain. Probably been 'asleep' or something in the first six episodes. Or just watching from the sidelines.
>who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
? no point in speculating.
>why would Rey's parents leave her?
slavetrade maybe? Jakku is a scummy place. And we can see she's being held by an alien when her parents fly off.
>how is Rey so good with the force?
She's force sensitive. What do you mean?
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idk who snoke is, it's probably just some sith lord who runs shit like an empire

rey's mother is most definitely leia but her father is unknown for the moment. It could be han but we can definitely rule out that it was luke. If it was luke we would have met the mother or had hints of a love in luke's life from the OT.

rey is good with the force because of her blood, the force runs through the skywalker bloodline.
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>>63776527
SERIOUSLY need this
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>>63776288
It might just be that they were trying to move more towards the original trilogy's style of lightsaber combat, which is more "kendo + stage swordfighting" than the "acrobatic ninja shit" they used in the prequels.

Palpatine's fighting style was partially due to the fact that Ian McDiarmid is an old man and had simple correography that he learned at the last minute.
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The only appeal of this movie is memes just like in Hobbit, right?
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>>63775944

Poor Vader man. Just let him rest.

I like your other ideas though. Seems so obvious.
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>>63775627
> Plagueis
> It ain't Luke. It's Han's and Leia's long-lost daughter (hey it worked the first time!)
> No clue at all. Perhaps it had to due with Ben starting to fap to the Sith?
> Amnesia. Most likely had training under Luke before Jakku, but after Kylo turned heel Luke thought it would be best to wipe and hide Rey.
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>>63775968
Why couldn't Luke beat Kylo Ren if he got fucked up by someone who never used a lightsaber before
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>>63775944
Does no one else find it really obvious that Ray is Ren's sister?
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>>63775969
>>63776155
>>63776527
>>63776443
Because Star Wars isn't your animu tier self insert/fetish fantasy. Go back to reddit or /a/ where this deviant fetish is acceptable.
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Rey is Padme's clone, created by Kylo Ren because in his mind he wants to be as similar as poissble to Anakin. He left her on Jakku to kill her at some point, like Anakin killed Padme.
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>>63777113
>killing your sisters kid
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yea sure, sex is ok, but nothing beats watching my wife get pounded by a 9 inch black penis

- J.J. Abrams
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>>63777323
Yeah, true.
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>>63776989
bump
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>>63775627
>who is Snoke?
Count Dooku
>who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
Luke and Padmé
>why would Rey's parents leave her?
They weren't ready for a child.
>how is Rey so good with the force
Darth Maul taught her.
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>>63776767
Wait a second.

What if Plaegus's method of living forever wasn't normal immortality. What if his way of 'saving' people was to put them in the bodies of the dead. What if he needed a force user powerful enough to channel that spirit. Then as time went on, they slowly began to resemble him. What if he lived almost eternally but never told his padawans who he eventually consumed like Lucius the Eternal from W40K.

Maybe Sheev never knew, but when the time came, he chose Anakin Skywalker's body instead to return in. Kylo is just his nex host he is training, thus the rule of 2 is never broken as well.
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Plagueis
Either Luke, or a literal who and midichlorians like Anakin.
No idea
Because bad writing. Only possible excuse would be jedi jesus (female) like Anakin, which is still bad writing.
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>>63775627
>who is Snoke?
That falls under the category "to be explained in detail in the next movie but doesn't matter right now." We always knew there were really high ranking officials controlling star systems so one rising to absolute power isn't a stretch.

>who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
>why would Rey's parents leave her?

All you really need to fall for the dark side is a lust for power and hatred.
Rey could just be an abandoned nobody and her past doesn't matter. He parents might have been killed in the civil war and she was just dumped off to a slaver. We're not sure if Rey remembers her family abandoning her or if she's making it up totally out of delusion.

Luke is busy trying to make a jedi school so having a wife and child wouldn't be a secret by any measure let alone and I don't think he just knocked some bitch up. Han and Leia absolutely would've known about it. Kylo probably would've known about too.


>how is Rey so good with the force?
Because she's pretty much in the same environment as Luke. Some literal nobody with nothing but hope and dreams. Unlike Kylo, she doesn't have parents to fuckup her childhood or adolescence.
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>>63777526
why did it take luke a lot longer then rey?
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>>63777559
Because bad writing.
Because feminists demand muh strong female character but are impatient and don't want to see a slow and satisfying growth.
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>>63775811
Underrated post.
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>>63776921
>how is Rey so good with the force?
She's force sensitive. What do you mean?

he probably mean that 20 minutes after she discovered to have powers she was able to obliterate a sith trained for years by luke at first and than by the sith lords...(on top of that she can read the same sith mind and prevent him to get the informations he need)
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>>63777056
> Amnesia. Most likely had training under Luke before Jakku, but after Kylo turned heel Luke thought it would be best to wipe and hide Rey.

so how comes kylo didn't recognise her?
and when they decide to hide her the brain washed the whole village so nobody could tell her that she wasn't left there as a child?
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>>63775811
could be another skywalker
could be mideekloryanes to the max
could just be 2015
only time will tell
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>>63776270
Rataka Prime is now canon, and they almost put Revan in an episode of Clone Wars.

It's only a matter of time before a Revan standalone film.
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>>63776134
Oh fuuuuuck if this is real I will be so happy
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>>63777777
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>>63776134
and how comes kylo didn't recognise her?
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>>63777766
because she would have been like 4..? and there's a young blood girl at the academy when Ren revolts next to Luke, and Luke has R2 at the academy, so obviously at somepoint either that girl in the Rey-only flashback which also showed her left with an unknown person was killed or it was Rey, and also at some point Luke left R2 with Leia before leaving for good.
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>>63776134
Then why doesn't Kylo recognise her?
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>>63778010
>because she would have been like 4..?
Then how the fuck would she have been trained to mind trick people?
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>>63777559
We don't know because Luke didn't fight Vader in the same movie where he knows about him.
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>>63778010
she and kylo have about the same age..so you are telling me that a 4 years boy went rampage in the accademy and killed everyone?
are you autistic?
and if she was 4 how can she be a fucking expert of the force where kylo that was trained for 20 other years was wasted by her?
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Rey has to be a Skywalker because they spend like 5 scenes hammering the i'm-naturally-a-gifted-pilot theme. They did it with Luke and Anakin too.
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>>63778068
He gets his ass handed to him in V after 2.5 years of self training and days of extreme training with an extremely adept jedi master.
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>>63778168
they are cousins..
kylo mother is luke sister
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>>63775627
>who is Snoke?
Plagueis, I'm sure. Note the wounds all over his face and neck. Sheev said he slit his throat in his sleep, which I guess may or may not account for the wounds.

>who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
If I had to guess, I'd say that Kylo killed Rey's mother while being trained by Luke. This explains why Luke left Rey, why Kylo's bad, etc.

>why would Rey's parents leave her?
Luke was probably worried that he broke everything he touched.

>how is Rey so good with the force?
Why not? It was fucking bullshit that she was so good with a lightsaber, but just Force-sensitivity? I see no issues. Anakin at the age of 8 was using the Force in many ways with no training, and even Leia with no training could tell that Luke survived the Death Star explosion in RotJ.
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>>63778353
>, I'd say that Kylo killed Rey's mother while being trained by Luke
If they wanted to go full Jacen Solo that's one way to do it
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It seemed to me like nobody was good with a lightsaber, they just swung them around like bats ala Jedi Outcast. also looked like button mashing with low stamina and no character lock-on.
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>>63775627
>who is Snoke?
Darth Plagueis

>who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
either she's Han and Leia's lost child, or she's Luke's secret daughter. she's definitely a Skywalker. not sure who the mom would be, probably someone we haven't seen yet.

>why would Rey's parents leave her?
not sure, maybe to keep her out of danger? maybe Luke couldn't take her with him into hiding, or didn't want to because he was afraid she'd turn out like Ben?

>how is Rey so good with the force?
see above
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>>63778353
i think they eased her lighsaber skill in with how she beat up those guys towards the start of the movie with her staff
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>>63778473
>d to me like nobody was good with a lightsaber, they just swung them around like bats ala Jedi Outcast. also loo

kylo was a skywalker too and on top of that had many years of training under luke himself and the sith lords ...yes was obliterated by her
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PHASMA

seriously is no one else pissed how shitty she was presented in this? god damn i am hoping for a bad ass escape flashback scene in episode 8
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>>63778517
*yet not yes
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>>63778529
Yeah the first order in general did not get a good showing. Other than the Stormtrooper that fought Finn.
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>>63778517
Kylo had been shot in the stomach and took a grazing blow from Finn during their brief skirmish. He was half-dead already and it was still a really close fight that Rey only barely won.
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>>63776051
>Dismissing the best story of any EU or canon work.
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>>63775627
-Snoke is a ghost of Darth Plagueis Kylo stumbled upon while training under Luke and turned him.
-No idea how the mom is, but she is probably the daughter of Obi-Wan or Luke.
-For her safety.
-Natural talent.
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>>63776270
I could be remembering wrong, but didn't Kylo's mask even look like "the" Revan mask? Or at least how they portrayed Revan/his mask in SWTOR?

I know, SWTOR, but still.
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Who the fuck was Max von Sydow?
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>>63778640
he barely defeat an idiot that was in charge of sanitary duties and fucked up the first time he was send to battle...
he had 20 fucking years of training ...he was supposed to explode them even without both his legs and 1 arm...
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>>63776264
>>63776270

It was nice to see the force stasis and force fear.
You could feel the KOTOR and Red Squadron influence.
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>>63775963
Shit if that were true the movie would be good
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Rey is going to be the incarnate of Anakin which doesn't fuck up and lose most of their midiclorians
Disney are going to force this strong independent womyn so hard that she's not going to have any weaknesses, in fear of pissing off the feminists watching it, even though it's the weaknesses that make the character
The only way I can see them fixing this is if Luke gets so obsessed with saving Ren instead of bonding with Rey who's still angry at him for leaving her on Jakku that she moves to the dark side as Kylo moves to the good, unfortunately I just don't see it happening
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>>63775627
>who is Snoke?
Darth Plagueis basically possessing and reanimating his own corpse through the Dark Side. The giant gash in his head is from where Darth Sheevus killed him with a lightsaber in his sleep.

>who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
I'm assuming Luke is the father and the mother will be a Donut Steel by JJ who was killed with the other Jedi at the new temple. Luke left her and Rey there and went off on some journey and then Kylo and his boys killed everyone, but Rey was the only one he couldn't bring himself to kill because she was the only child there, not just Luke's daughter but being trained as some sort of Force prodigy. You can see the other corpses in the scene are all adults. Ren wiped her memory and dumped her on Jakku, but made Luke believe she was dead and through some mumbo jumbo bullshit she was severed from the Force for a while after seeing all the dark shit and death as a child and so Luke couldn't sense she was alive.

>how is Rey so good with the force?
JJ bullshit.

ALTERNATIVE:

Rey is the product of Luke's own experimentation in creating life with the Force itself, and this is why she is automatically the most powerful Force user ever shown in the movies after discovering it for a couple hours.
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>>63778733
Wedge
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>>63778733
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lor_San_Tekka
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>>63779568
Wasn't he supposed to be someone from the old movies?
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>>63775627
> A Big Guy, but could honestly be anyone

> Han and Leia. Han reacts to when Rei tells him her name, acts a little shaken. Maz asks Han about "the girl" and it cuts away. When Kylo captures Rei, he is shaken, not because of his son, but because his and Leia's worst fears had come to pass that Rei would fall in the hands of her brother and they don't want to loose her again. I don't think it's Luke, because Luke seems to be on the straight and narrow in terms of Jedi code, aka No Sex, unlike his father who gave into the Passion and turned to the Darkside.

>So she wouldn't be found and killed or fall into the same fate as their son.

> She clearly practiced whilst scavenging the wastelands. She seemed to be much better than the others. Also she's a fucking Skywalker
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Finn will get trained by Luke too
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>>63779893
To play the cymbals and dance around trying to get people to put money in his hat while Luke cranks a music box?
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>>63775627
>who are Rey's parents and if it is Luke then who is the mom?
[spoilers]Leia[/spoilers]
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>>63779942
This. Luke and Leia had incestuous twins in Kylo and Rey.
This is why Kylo refers to his maternal grandfather as family, but not Han.
It's also why Leia gets sad and hugs Han when Han refers to Kylo as "our son".
When Kylo found out what he was, he turned to the dark side.
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>>63780086
Yep. And then Rey and Kylo, brother and sister, will fuck, just like their parents.
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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>>63775627
either sidious' or more pileky plagueis' force ghost

luke is the father, unknown mother

no idea

cause she's luke's daughter
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Rey is the daughter of princess Leia and Han Solo, Rey and Finn are stepbrothers because Finn's father's is also Han, but his mother is unknow, in the canon comics Han have also a black daughter, so he had two children from this woman.

Kylo Ren is the son of Luke, his real name is Ben, like the pseudonym that Obi Wan had in the fourth episode, his mother died for whatever reason, the tomb visible in the first appearance of Luke is his wife's, from that day he became an heremit and left his son to a tutor, a person who he believed wise, but in reality was a sith that wanted to put his hands to an heir of the Skywalkers to rebuilt the Empire, this person is Snoke, and Ben is his Darth Vader, Snoke grew Ben in the cult of his grandfather, so Ben renamed himself Kylo Ren and founded the Knights of Ren within the First Order, the terrorist group that wants to restore the Evil Empire, created by Snoke and other evil dudes, KoR are a group of sith who became able to wield the force in adult age, like Kylo's father.

Finn will become the sidekick equivalent of Han Solo, the death of Han was an express request from Harrison Ford, because he NEVER liked Star Wars, and accepted to do only on e last movie of the series.
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>>63780220
>Finn's father's is also Han
tihs is the mother then
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She is obviously Luke's heir. Why else was his lightsabre calling out to her. She could hear a child's screams when she encountered it. Those were her screams from when Luke left her on Jakku.
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>>63777124
>sister

Don't you mean cousin?
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>>63777515

>KEEP CALM AND PROPER NOUN
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Was the old guy that pol meets in the beginning a "familiar face" accordion to the text scrawl?

Was he in the original trilogy?
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>Why would Rey's parents leave her?

Luke new his daughter would be the most powerful jedi and he didnt want to run the risk of her turning to the dark side.

He also wanted a backup plan incase his training of the new jedi turned sour, which it did. He foresaw that only Rey could stop Kylo so he went into hiding and programmed R" so that he would only reveal his location once Rey had a Force Awakening and was ready to seek him out.
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Wouldn't Leia have recognized her niece? For that matter, if Luke was going to go into hiding and Leia wasn't, why not leave his daughter with her? Or with some adoptive parents, like he got? Why leave here with a random scrapyard owner to spend her childhood being his literal wage slave?

It seems to me that her parent(s) must have decided very suddenly to go off and do something that they thought might get them killed, otherwise she'd have been left somewhere better, like Luke and Leia both were.
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>>63780675
My question is...didn't Luke's blue saber get lost on Bespin when his hand was chopped off?
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>>63778002
>>63778044
He thinks she betrayed him, and want to kill him.
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>>63781383
that's bullshit
he should still be able to recognise her he always acted as he has never seen her before
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>>63780675
Or the screams of the younglings killed with it
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guys guys
what if Rey is the daughter of someone evil
>Kylo Ren
>Son of heroes
>turns out to be evil
>Rey
>Daughter of villains
>turns out to be good

JUST
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>>63781282
Yes it did. It was apparently retrieved. When he falls out of the hatch at the bottom of the city and catches himself on the antenna (or whatever it was) something falls past him and he looks down at it. I always assumed it was his hand, but I don't think it's clear. The next time you see him use a lightsaber is in Jedi at Jabba's Palace, where his green one is introduced.

That's why Han was curious to know how it came to be in the basement of that bar. He was told "It's a long story" or something like that.
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>>63781614
that would be maximum poetry
Even more bonus poetry points if Kylo redeems himself and Rey becomes evil in the end.
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>>63781614
Protagonist who discovers the Force turns out to have inherited abilities from an evil, estranged parent. It would be in line with the theme of reusing themes.
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>>63777422
"If I see another white actor I'm gonna be sick, but don't you fucking dare question the number of Jewish producers and executives."

- Jar Jar Abrams
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Luke is Snoke. Kylo Ren didn't went berserk on his own - Luke trained him for this purpose. Luke didn't run away - he hid himself, because he is now the Supreme Leader of the First Order.
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>>63776051
Kotor 1 didnt even have a bad story man.
Its only bad when you compare it to kotor 2
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>>63781742
Why not just turn all of his students? As the only living Jedi, he could teach them whatever he wanted, they'd never know the difference, and nobody could stop him.
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>>63781839
one master
one student
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>>63781839
He actually did. And Kylo Ren killed the other students for exactly that reason. He wants to finish, what Vader started: Killing the Sith. So he's actually a good guy. He doesn't know Snoke is Luke and this is all part of his master plan.
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>>63781742
i like the idea of luke being evil, but this is a fucking dumb theory. anything to back it up?
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>>63781997
But Vader, in sacrificing himself, both started and finished killing the Sith. And only Luke witnessed his change of heart.

>>63781944
Palpatine tried to take on a second apprentice, didn't he?
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>>63781997
Also, why kill his dad in that case?
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>>63781621
Ah, good old JJ "I'm a hack that can't write or direct so I play it safe and let the next guy handle it" Abrams, I expect nothing less.
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>>63781653
>>63781661
she's sheev's daughter
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>>63782337
and mace dindu is the father
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>>63781944
Friendly reminder that this tripfag is retarded.

Do not value her opinions.
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>yfw snoke is Bane
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>>63782749
Do you mean Darth Bane?
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Rey and Kylo are obviously siblings, you fucking retards
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>>63775811
I mean C'MON
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Is it explained in the movie how Anakin's lightsaber was recovered from falling into Bespin?
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>>63775875
This 2bh pham
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>>63777559
She believed in the force, Luke didn't right away. Luke was a whiner
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>>63779740
Ye, the scene would've had more weight if he was an old Rebel, Wedge Antilles for instance.
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>>63783711

oh shit
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>>63783711
>a story for another time
aka
>we have no idea, next writer(s) can deal with it
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