Hes not a fucking Muun
What the fuck is he?
Lets try to have a real discussion here.I think he is the body of Darth Vader completely taken over by the Dark Side of the force, perhaps by Plagueis or Malak etc, hence why his head wounds match with the helmet scarring of Vader.
>>63768179
>Malak
That shit ain't canon anymore.
Also No.
Snoke is a new character probably to be revealed in one of the new Aftermath books
Did any one else get fooled into thinking that snooke was some type or titan/giant?
>>63768235
yup :(
>>63768224
>That shit ain't canon anymore
MOTHERFUCK EVERYTHING
>>63768235
Hes clearly not a giant, just a hologram on a large stage.
>>63768224
But the emperor maybe having the same power that his master has (i.e. live forever) is canon. Maybe its Sheev in Anakins body?
>>63768363
no shit, but they did not reveal he was a hologram right away
Snoke
10/10 plot OP
>>63768179
Snoke can be Plagueis, there were even clues in the movie that he is (Kylo calling him 'wise', extreme similarity in theme music between the Ep 3 Plagueis monologue and Snoke's theme)
but he doesn't have to be a Muun, that's EU shit which they have de-canonised
>>63768390
Vaders helmet
>>63768420
I agree, but isnt it possible the Emperor could have used the force as he was falling and transfer his soul into a new body? Liiiiike Vaders dying one?
For the last time, he's a new character, he's not anyone from the EU that shit's all gone. He's not one of the two or three other Sith that were mentioned. He's merely a glib facsimile of Sheev "Sid" Palpatine.
>>63768462
well...sure, I guess
>>63768179
what if the hologram is a lie and he's only 6 inches tall?
>>63768420
Him being fucking dead is still canon. Sheev had his ashes in a fucking vase in his office according to the novelization of ROTS. Movie novelizations = movies for canon purposes unless anything in them contradicts what occurs on screen.
>>63768491
no-one is saying he's from the EU
Plagueis is from the movies, so it's possible Snoke=Plagueis
>>63768491
Like Jacen, the son of Han Solo who fell to the dark side under Lukes training?
Or Jaina, the young daughter of Han Solo who fights him as a twin with a purple saber, who is inhumanly amazing at repairs and understanding mechanics?
Yea, the EU is out the window totally.
>>63768543
>the EU isn't canon unless it's parts of the EU I want to be canon
lol
>>63768462
Lol that's gay
>>63768556
WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE SAYING THIS
I DO NOT GET IT
"UH THE GUY WHO SUCKS UP TO HIM CALLS HIM WISE"
"UH THERES EVIL HUMS IN HIS GLIB FACSIMILE OF A THEME"
"UH PLAGUEIS WAS A MASTER OF THE MIDICLORIANS MAYBE HE CAME BACK 2 LIFE LMAO"
Seriously, what the fuck goes on in your minds that makes you jump to conclusions like this? I'm so glad I grew out of fanfic theorycrafting after Episode I was ass.
>>63768599
Movie novelizations are not the EU, they are 100% Lucas's thoughts put to paper by an author of his choosing.
This is how G-Canon always, ALWAYS worked, back to 1991 when Lucasarts established canon. Everything that is G-Canon remains canon in the Disneyverse.
>>63768638
we're not jumping to any conclusions, just saying it's possible that Snoke COULD be Plagueis
there are pieces of information that suggest (but do not confirm) this possiblity:
1. Snoke was seeking ways to 'cheat death'
2. Snoke was able to 'create life' using the Force
3. He is called Plagueis the Wise by Sheev, and in the Force Awakens, a movie absolutely teeming with callbacks and nods to the previous movies, he is also referred to as being 'wise'
4. The theme music that plays during SNoke's theme isn't just similar, it's almost identical to the music that plays when Sheev is describing Plagueis in Ep 3
>>63768432
Holy shit it does match. If its anakins body controlled by sheev or just a manifiestation of the darkside it eould be nuts. He does look zombie like
>>63768700
[citation needed]
>>63768700
sure thing buddy!
>>63768776
>Their article bullet pointed that he “looks like an old man” and appears “zombie-like” almost as if he’s “risen from the dead.”
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/06/star-wars-the-force-awakens-who-is-snoke/
>>63768491
>Starts to state facts
>Ends with a shitty /tv/ tier meme
Opinion instantly discarded. You are the prototypical /tv/ neckbeard that will hate everything other than cunnies and memes
>>63768773
And also, its not entirely crazy to think Snoke was Plagueis' real name...
>Darth Vader - Anakin Skywalker
>Darth Sidious - Sheev Palpatine
>Kylo Ren - Ben Solo
>>63768224
Yes it is, find me anywhere that says otherwise
>>63768938
Im fairly sure Knights of the Old Republic is still canon.
>>63768235
Yep
>>63768179
Not enough memes to keep the thread alive?
>>63768905
>>Kylo Ren - Ben Solo
I just realized how funny this looks written out
it's like he scribbled his name really fast and chose the way it came out as his nickname
>>63769838
True pottery in action right there.
I think Luke has a son named Ben in the EU, I know he has an Anakin
>>63769012
A lot of it has to be because the new TOR stuff is canon and it's all deeply dependent on KOTOR and even all of the stuff way back to the Legions of Lettow to work.
desu I see Disney eventually making most of the 'way back' EU shit canon to appease fanboys. The normalfag cashcows don't give a shit about ancient history anyways.
Soundtrack 100% proves snoke is darth plagueis
>>63769971
This has been posted in this thread alone twice now.
Do you have proof orr...
>>63770035
>listen to snoke's theme
>listen to plagueis theme in ROTS
done
>>63770148
Jesus thats eerie.
I can buy into this.
>>63770303
Yeah
John Williams wouldn't lie to us sempai
>>63768363
Anakin was cremated, and while he was alive was a quadruple amputee on life support.
It's not vaders body.
>>63770465
Theres just too much pottery here
Ben Solo is Han Solos son who is the grandson of Anakin, trained by Ben, but also uses a mask when he goes Dark side...
Luke is a hermit like Obi Wan who he trained under... and then like Yoda who he trained under... Like how Rey will train under him
I just cant keep up
>>63770546
I just saw the movie a few hours ago and I dont recall ever seeing Snokes arms or legs... Just a bunch of robes
I also recall seeing Vaders armor, not Anakins body, in the funeral pyre.
(In all seriousness the funeral pyre is the only hole in the theory)
>>63770614
you do see his hands
>>63770465
Where can I hear snoke's theme? Youtube is giving me fuck all.
When did Sheev kill Plagueis?
Was it before or after Anikins birth?
If he found a way to cheat death, and Anikin had no father, was Anikin also Plagueis?
Lucas claimed the entire 9 part series was:
1-3 the rise of Vader
4-6 the fall of Vader
7-9 the redemption of Vader
If JJ/Disney has not tossed everything out of the window
Could Snoke be Plagueis/Anikin/Vader in order to fulfill Lucas's original idea.
Side note on the death of Solo, the producer Kennedy said today, that the entire cast of Episode VII would return in Episode VIII, the Entire cast
>>63770687
Han better not be a force ghost
>>63770687
Obviously Lucas changed his mind with the original three trilogy plan, considering Vader was redeemed in 15 minutes at the end of Jedi.
Regarding Kennedy, obviously she meant the entire cast that was still alive.
>>63768179
Was it just me or did Snoke look like a kek'd silence alien from Dr. Who?
>>63770686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCi1MzJXfGo
>>63770767
Well this shit almost 100% confirms it.
>>63768179
he is sheev's final form
>>63768390
>>63768432
>>63768776
>>63768853
fuck this shit if true
>>63770767
holy shit its real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LhC7N3mNI
>>63770934
It won't. Snoke is most likely not Sidious, Vader or Plagueis. He's probably a new character. I say probably because I DON'T FOR SURE KNOW.
Disney is trying to promote these new characters and shoo away the old ones. EP 7 is just an introduction for them right now. They aren't going to make their main villain for their new trilogy an old character. Certainly not Plagueis, who is mentioned in one scene in one prequel (from which they are trying to distance themselves) and is not shown and has no other info.
Think about it.
>Normies galore in theater for EP 8
>Snoke hints heavily or outright says he's Plagueis returned
>Normies have no idea what the fuck is going on
Snoke is new. They have a lot more to work with if he's a fresh face rather than one anchored to an old shitty movie. Use your fucking brains people.
>>63768224
Darth Plagueis is referenced in RoTS when Palpatine talks to Anakin about his former master so it may be him
>>63771098
DAMN RIGHT YOU DON'T FOR SURE
KYLO, SUPREME LEADER SNOKE IS SHEEVIL!
>>63770767
>>63771043
Wait, I just thought of something.
What if Plagueis developed a more advanced version of force ghost where he can take over the dead.And what if he actually killed Sheev, then himself, so he could transfer his body. With his plan being to take over Anakin the entire time until he fell into the Lava.
>>63771166
IT WAS ME, JEDI, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG.
>>63769911
TOR is not canon.
>>63770731
He won't be, Han isn't force sensitive, plus in episode three the force ghost thing wasn't even widely known until Qui Gon did it to visit yoda, and by that point order 66 was executed so only Yoda and Kenobi knew how to do...and I guess Anakin because he had to have a happy ending.
I want Snoke to be Plagueis too, but come on think about it.
Do you really think the people responsible for the new movies give a shit about the old lore?
Their number one priority is appealing to the normies, not superfans of the series that pay close attention to the lore
>>63768235
I thought so, and I'm really hoping he actually turns out to be one
>>63771098
>that part when Kylo suggest to that commander guy Hux or whatever an army of clones
>>63771226
>give a shit about the old lore?
of course they dont. That's why they scrap it, copy it, and call it brand new and creative and buy reviews saying how amazing it is.
i wish the guy that plays sheev came back and all of the old evil guys are just standing around with the cool marble sculpture hologram
haydn christenson too
>>63771166
Exar Kun did it... But it was living bodies, a Padawan, he also tried for comatose Luke I think. But EU doesn't exist and the starkiller was not the Galaxy Gun of the emperor reborn... This does not follow that plot almost exactly
>>63771270
>That part where Luke asks Ben about the Clone Wars in the original movie
>>63771166
This'll be the twist.
Plagueis DID find out a way to achieve immortality, but could never let anyone know, or else they'd actively seek out a way to stop him / not be his fucking apprentice because fuck being his next host.
>>63770934
They burned Vader's body on a pyre. Unless the force just magicked him back to life like it did to create him. Is Anakin's body immortal since he was born from a virgin?
>>63768179
THE BANKING CLAN
>Snoke is Darth Plagueis's spirit in Vader's fried zombie body
This shit is so fucking stupid it actually might be true.
>yfw Snoke was literally a big guy
>watching opera scene in ROTS for reference
>"Good is a point of view, Anakin"
How deep does the pottery barn go?
>>63771653
is he though? maybe he's only a few inches tall
>>63771166
Wait, isn't that Plagueis' goal in the old cannon novel, Darth Plagueis?
Any way, it could be Plagueis. He was only mentioned briefly, nothing much at all established about him so they have a lot of freedommfw star wars is the new lost
>>63768390
Ssssss... ssss... sss...
This is Snok
>>63770766
I thought he looked like a methhead Engineer from Prometheus.
>>63771803
Sssnnoooke
Snoke
Are you Snoking yet?!
>>63770766
THAT'S what he reminded me of. Couldn't figure it out, thanks
I'll admit the imagery from the movie to Plaguies book art is disturbingly similar as well.
>>63771997
Sheev has always looked exactly like that hasn't he
You really think the emperor just up and tumbled down that shaft and all went all crazy trying to save himself and kill everyone else and really fucked himself up in the process and his body is basically a corpse but he managed to escape... Took a new name and now uses his holograms to make himself look like a really big guy but in reality is a frail corpse of a person and yet still very powerful
>>63772285
Then what was that massive release of energy in RoTJ when he died?
>>63772406
That was him... Fucking shit up... Trying to save himself in the process... You never saw him actually die... He just got tossed down a hole.. Then he went Kamehamehaaaaaa motherfuckas
>>63768235
Andy Serkis said he's about 7-8 feet tall.
>>63771653
When I saw snoke was a big guy I thought that it would be awesome to see a few tiny jedi run around him jumping out of the way of his massive lightsaber. Then I quickly realised that would be too creative and from their point of view it was just the hologram that was big.
>>63772793
jawa feet?
>>63770687
sidious killed plagueiseussi while maul was already his apprentice. Probably shortly before episode 1
>>63768179
I'm thinking he'sa botched clone of the Emperor that's lost his connection to the Force
>>63774165
I think it was during the Obi+Qui Gon-Maul face off.
Abrams is definitely pulling shit from the expanded universe.
WhenHan shouts "Ben!" At his son I did a fucking eye Roll. First off Leia Never met Ben, Obiwan Kenobi. Ben was Lukes son in the EU. If The had to pick a name it should have bern Jacen.Also is it me or was there absolutely no character development? Suddenly someone wasn't a coward. Suddenly someone went from being out for himself to being altruistic. Suddenly someone went from being plain to force sensitive. [Spoiler] C'mon Rey is Lukes fucking daughter. Is it me or did anyone else find the pacing to be fucking rushed.
>>63775663
I also Rolled my eyes at the Ben/Jacen Kylo mash up
>>63768390
>pale blue eyes
>not sith yellow
wtf?
>>63775937
literally not a sith
>>63775663
>>63775826
I love how Disney decided to stamp out the EU just to recycle things from it.
Starkiller Base = Sun Crusher
Kylo Ren = Jacen Solo
There's even a one off line about how Luke tried to start a Jedi Academy (just like in the EU) but it failed because of Ben/Kylo Solo. Give me a break. I just feel like they're mashing together the OT/EU with meh results.
>>63776075
they are a bunch of hacks >>63771287
>>63768224
Wasn't Rakata Prime on an official map of the galaxy that got published pretty recently? Was that place ever relevant outside of KotOR?
>>63777053
It was.
To the second question, no, it wasn't.
>>63777053
Kylo's lightsaber is based on a design dating back to the "Great Scourge of Malchor," and Snoke's fascination with him stems from him being a focal point of both the light and dark side.
That's some serious KotOR shit.
>>63771720
he is confirmed as 7 foot tall in an interview in peoples magazine.
>>63768179
>Hes not a fucking Muun
That's EU shit nigga.
Snoke is Plagueis reanimating his own corpse, the big gash through his head is where Darth Sheevus inserted his lightsaber in his sleep.
I was horrified at the thought of what Snoke could do to Rey.
>>63768543
Plagueis could control life and death. You seriously think there isn't potential for some resurrection shit there?
>>63777053
Pretty sure Luke is on Rakata Prime.
>>63775663
>First off Leia Never met Ben, Obiwan Kenobi
Han Solo did though. She also fucking knew of him, or else she wouldn't have left a hologram in New Hope saying that he's her only hope.
Dumbfuck.
Name one fucking character that is alive in the Force Awakens that will know who Plagueis is.
Literally why would they make him Plagueis if both audience and characters will say 'who'?
>>63775663
>C'mon Rey is Lukes fucking daughter.
I don't think she is his daughter, I think she's just some prodigy Jedi student, the youngest Luke had by far, and the only one Kylo couldn't bring himself to kill. So instead he wiped her memory and dumped her on Jakku. It was clear he had some history with her when he subtly blurted "WHAT GRRRRRRRRRLLLL???!?!?!!?" Probs Luke's kid tho and thought she was dead somehow even though he should have been able to sense her.
>>63778536
>Literally why would they make him Plagueis
Pottery, did you not watch the movie? It was full of it.
Rey is the ghost spirits of yoda, ob1, anakin, and quigonn reincarnated into one being.
>>63778605
Then make him Plagueis from the get-go, then reveal that Plagueis is Sheev.
>>63778657
>Then make him Plagueis from the get-go
Why? How would they have le epin reveal then?
> then reveal that Plagueis is Sheev
Why would Plagueis be Sheev?
>>63768776
Didn't luke burn Anakins body in the end?
>>63768390
>>63768432
Interesting theory, but why would Vader's body be animated by the Dark side? On the other hand, it would explain why Kylo worships the helmet. I mean he surely knows Vader turned back to the light from his father and from his uncle, so why worship Vader as a dark messiah unless this is true? And how does this tie into Luke's quest to find the first temple of the Jedi? Why is he even looking for it?
JJ, you crafty jew, you saved all the interesting stuff for the sequel.
>>63778742
>>63768776
>>63768432
Anakin's body disappeared after he died and became one with the Force, like Obi Wan and Yoda.
>>63778742
this
>>63778804
We don't know that for sure. We know Luke burned the armor, but we didn't see if there's anything inside it.
>>63778696
So he could use Sheev to destroy the republic and seduce Anakin to the darkside in RotS.
>>63778536
"Kylo Ren. I will make you my apprentice, as I made Palpatine once before."
"The Emperor -- Darth Sidious? Y-you mean... you're...?"
"No. Darth Plagueis died. We must walk a new path -- a path neither Jedi nor Sith. The path of the Revan."
>>63778888
quads confirm.
REVAN IS BACK BABY
>>63778851
>We don't know that for sure
Uhhh yeah, we pretty much do dude. It's what happened to the other two guys who became Force ghosts, so it's pretty much established that that's what happens.
>>63778877
But if he is Sheev then you're saying he used himself.
>>63770148
Shit nigga that's too on the nose. Plus the whole character description of an "ancient evil" with extreme dark side powers who is powerful enough to not give a shit about Sheev failing is pretty much on the nose Plagueis. Plus without a Sith Lord the story isn't nearly as powerful. I think this theory has legs.
>>63778696
Because Sheev made up that whole Plagueis story.
>>63775663
>he should be called *insert some autism from the EU* here
>>63770687
It's heavily implied (in the movie and especially in the first drafts of episode 3) that Plagueis is the one who conceived Anikin in Shmi using his power over midichlorians.
>>63778851
Yeah he pulled the old fried human naked parts of his fathers body out of the armour then burnt the empty armour?
this theory is retarded.
>>63778851
Vader had prosthetic limbs though? I don't seem to remember his force ghost crawling around like some human pillow.
did any of you people actually pay attention to these fucking movies?
>>63770035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LhC7N3mNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCi1MzJXfGo
Not hard to google that shit nigga.
>>63779051
>human
only vader's torso and head were remotely human, the rest was robotic
>>63778990
This is actually a solid possibility. Sheev was tempting Anakin with the power of the dark side
>>63779106
In Lucus first script Plagueis didn't exist and Sheev revealed that HE was the one who manipulates the midichlorians so Anakin could be born. He actually says "In a way, you could consider me your father"
Plagueis replaced him but it's still kind of inferred in the opera scene
>>63778319
Anyone with the pirated movie can pull up an image of the full map? I seem to remember the map leading to somewhere in the unknown regions, maybe
>>63779531
Here's the official map for TFA apparently. He's definitely on Rakata Prime.
It annoys me that they seem to have the unknown regions mapped. Maybe the chiss will show up at some point, that'd be cool i guess
>>63768179
>>63779672
The First Order was hiding out there so it kind of makes sense that they mapped it out in a bid to stake their claim before going after the republic. The empire had always wanted to but never did, because Sheev gonna Sheev
Wow! Leaked concept art of a battle from Star Wars: Episode IX
>>63778927
You're not getting Darth Revan.
For one, he died in the EU. For another-
We've already been over this. People saying Kylo Ren is Revan. Now confirmed for not Revan.
Stop trying to make this happen.
It's not gonna happen.
>>63768235
I remember hearing he was tall but that freaked me out when I saw it
>>63778888
Making Snoke Revan would be too autistic for the general audiences to handle
>>63769012
Not fully but as long as nothing retconns it then you can believe it all you want
>>63779672
All the places visited in the film are bordered in red on that map by the looks of it. Rakata Prime isn't.
>>63768235
"Holy shit. He's HUUUUUUUUGE."
>>63768235
Is he not?
That'd be a dumb reveal; if only the hologram was large.
I want old ancient gods in my star wars.
>>63778888
This is not so far fetched.
I suspect "Ren" means in fact "Revan".
Revan is the non canon EU name, but the character will be named Ren in the canon.
So the knights of Ren are the knights of Revan, and that's also why Kylo looks so much like him.
Maybe Snoke is indeed looking to surpass both light and dark sides like Revan did.
Also it is rumored that Snoke is an alien (or not) from another galaxy, and we know Revan went into a mysterious journey outside of the galaxy to look for something.
Maybe Snoke is Revan's apprentice that Revan found outside the galaxy?
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=v0LhC7N3mNI&start1=0&video2=FCi1MzJXfGo
It's done, it's the damn same.
>>63770767
Oh sheet!
>>63780114
It's obviously gonna be a Wizard of Oz situation.
I almost wish he had been a snake man instead of some ugly ayy lmao
>>63780168
What is the wizard of Oz situation
>>63778581
THIS is the twist
Makes PERFECT sense
Helps Rey's Mary Sue status immensely while connecting the dots
>>63780047
well, but the map in the movie was somewhere around there i think. Unless it was flipped or something
>>63779782
Are you retarded ?
Snoke is not actually a giant, it was a hologram
>>63780603
I'm not sure but i believe it means the movie will trick you by making you think he's a giant and very dangerous and whatever when he'll actually be normal-sized and weak as fuck.
That'd be interesting
>>63780125
kill yourself EU moron.
EU is trashed, deal with it.
>>63770767
Fucking confirmed
GET HYPE
>>63770687
Lucas 9 part series:
>1-3 the rise of Vader
>4-6 the fall of Vader
>7-9 the redemption of Vader
how it actually is:
>1-2 the rise of Skywalker
>3 the fall of Vader
>4-6 the reign of Vader
>last 15 minutes of 6 the redemption of Vader
>7-9 the desecration of Vader
just fuck it all up
>>63768235
The idea that only the hologram is that large never even crossed my mind.
I'm fucking retarded.
>>63782312
serkis has said he's 7-8 feet tall you degenerate fucking ewok
>>63768235
I hate to admit it....but yes
>>63768235
Yes
That throne room/teleconference room was some great design, it was spooky as fuck and made it look like Snoke had been in there for a very long time
>>63768235
Snoak is going to be about 6 inches tall. Or possibly even microscopic
>>63768179
Plagueis is a Munn, they made a toy.
I think snoke is a manifest of rens illusions imposed upon the minds of the people around him
>>63788902
He's gonna be "dark Yoda" so he's small as fuck
BRAVO JJ
BRAVO RIAN JOHNSON
>>63778581
Luke is her father. he left her on Jakku on purpose. that was her training.
>>63768235
>>63768224
>>63768179
These are some retarded theories. It's obviously Palpatine. Come on guys, this is a children's film.
>>63771640
eh, i don't think it's too stupid. the idea ties some threads of the saga together.
>>63769876
Luke has a Ben, Han has an Anakin
>>63788937
Muun are kind of silly looking though. I can understand Disney's decision to redesign him, if he is indeed Snoke. From what we have seen he still resembles an Ayy Lmao.
>>63768235
I was kinda mad it was hologram, really hoping that he was some elder god being or something of the sort
would be cool for the mythos
>>63771202
Who decided this shit? Some autistic fan-run wiki? If it's got star wars in the name, it happened in star wars. Fuck off with your cherry picking "canon" nonsense.
>>63780125
except revan died like 3000 years before the movies
>>63788937
Han and Leia had twins named Jacen and Jaina, they made toys.
>>63768538
He's 7-8 feet officially
>>63770687
Half Life 3 confirmed.
>>63790018
The Plagueis toy just came out a month or two ago.
>>63788937
>Plagueis is a Munn
they never say what race he was in the movies, also in the EU where it's mentioned isn't canon anymore.
>>63790112
It came out 2 years ago.
http://www.rebelscum.com/Darth-Plagueis-18-Black-Series-Hasbro.asp
>>63789080
Kylo was Luke's student and nephew.
If she was his cousin, he could have known it like Luke known deep down Leïa was his sister.
But I agree, it's Star Wars, family business, must have a connection between them it's just... I hope they don't.
>>63790190
they wouldnt make a toy 2 months ago if it wasnt cannon
>>63790218
Still after the Disney purchase
Did Snoke remind anyone else of Mason Verger from Hannibal?
Anyone got the Snoke hologram webm?
>>63780125
>So close to being Canon.
http://clonewars.wikia.com/wiki/Revan
>>63790467
That was before Disney scrapped all EU stuff.
So what's Snoke's masterplan besides getting rid of Luke?
>>63780125
>>63789980
Snoke may be one of the last true sith that they talked about in Kotor 2, he may have originated from the outer rim and Revan may have fucked his people back to the stone age. Or snoke is palpatine, weakened by getting thrown into the pit in RoTJ, but he isn't dead considering that he was Plageuis's apprentice and probably learned how to escape death through the force, yet doing this horribly disfigured him.
>>63791347
Getting Rey which is Luke's daughter to the dark side of the force through kylo ren, who he is using to get her once again. If he is palpatine then this will be his end game.
>>63768235
Yep. But after seeing it fade out, I felt like a complete retard remembering that Sheev also appeared as a gigantic hologram before.
Webm of Snoke anyone?
>>63791700
Here you go:http://a.pomf.cat/vvvaew.webm
>>63775663
Abrams put no thought into this. It was a remake of new hope. It's why all the theories of this thread are pointless. Snoke is just a tall alien guy who uses the dark side. Nothing else
>>63771202
Isn't Legends the new term for EU (Expanded Universe)? I know just about all of the old EU stuff that took place after "Return of the Jedi" was retconned by kikeny but the stuff prior to Episode 1 and between 1 and 7 are still canon.
"perhaps supreme leader should have used a clone army"
Snoke is a clone of plagieus even Palpie did not succeed in killing him.
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>>63768432
the biggest problem with this theory is that even if Vader didn't get burned up by Luke at the end of RotJ, he had no hands, and Snoke clearly does.
>>63791533
Snoke is less disfigured than palatine already was.
>>63791782
Thanks
>>63792049
We just don't know what happens when they perform the escaping death ability. So it's up in the air, either it's Plageuis, or it's Palpatine retransformed by cheating death.
>>63782373
No it isn't. Palpatine already did it.
Nothing JJ does is original.
>>63789844
You are one dense motherfucker. Ita not canon because disney wantes to make a new eu. Disney made a list of what is canon and what is not. Unfortunately, the fans arent the ones who decide what is and isnt canon you idiot.
>>63791347
I'm thinking that whoever he is, he's either lost his connection, or doesn't have access to the Force. This is why he needs Kylo.
I think he's going to be trying to get that power for himself somehow.
>>63792214
If he was palpatine it would make sense that he would need a strong force user to gain back his power after cheating death after RoTJ, he only needs Kylo to get to Rey, he's being used by sheev.
>>63771202
> that incredibly cherrypicked quote on the game
> the best they could find was a Times article that previewed a game talking about their "ambition"
yeah, TOR certainly did set a new standard for gaming alright
>>63779672
How could they see the laser from Takodana? The path it took from Starkiller base to the Hosnian system is a quarter of the fucking galaxy away
>>63768235
How else were people to know? Every hologram that appeared in Star Wars up to that point was blue. It was pretty cool though, could imagine that's how Snoke chooses to appear to his soldiers and intimidate them.
>>63775663
EU is concentrated autism.
>>63771287
even though this is JJ were talking about, lets look at the blue print that he followed for this film. he pretty much copy pasta'd a new hope. SOOOOOOOOO that would lead us to believe that he will continue to do so. SO Snoke will be some element of the old films mixed with a new element. It just has to be. They wouldn't completely uproot the entire evil root.
>>63793148
What I am thinking and being optimistic about is that they copied ANH just to get fans old and new invested into the story. Now that they have secured the profit of the series, they are in a unique position to take some risks. I think that they will do so as copying the OT too hard will be entering back-lash territory.
>>63771640
Kid on the right would make a great Kylo Ren if he dyed his hair.
>>63768235
I still hope he is. A giant alien from some ancient massive planet.
Turning him into the wizard of Oz would be too much, even for JJ.
>>63777053
>>63778183
it was mentioned in the darth bane books
otherwise i'm not sure
>>63778927
Is that logo behind him his logo? Not really aware of all the Revan lore.. But look at the First Order logo. Seems pretty similar to me.
>>63792403
It makes no sense. And even if they could see it, was the laser travelling at lightspeed? How could they see it then? And how does a laser knows in how many pieces to fragment to hit all the planets it did?
>>63771640
That's one cool mom taking her kids out cosplaying and shit.
>>63768235
IT'S A LION. IT'S HUUUGE
>>63768543
Oh, but the idea was that, if anything, he might have escaped his body via the force or whatever. Nobody actually think he got up and walked away while palpatine was watching.
>>63768700
>>63768796
>>63768810
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_III:_Revenge_of_the_Sith_(novel)
According to this, novelisations are by default c-canon, meaning basically canon but not explicitly checked over and verified by lucas.
In this case though, GL looked over the book and submitted edits to fix minor things. Anything in the book afterwards should be essentially considered G-canon.
>>63770614
Anakin became a force ghost.
When you become a force ghost, your body becomes one with the Force.
See: Onii-Chan Kenobi and Yoga.
>>63771997
pretty darn good book desu, at least compared to most star wars novels
the audio version was excellently produced
>>63772285
considering that boba fett survived the sarlacc, maybe it scales to that level with palpatine
>>63775633
yeah it was right around the same time. the night after he becomes chancellor according to the darth plagueis novel.
>>63776075
Starkiller base = (Galaxy Gun + Sun Crusher)* Death Star
>>63791347
Maybe it is UNLIMITED POWER? Is that not the inevitable goal of any Sith?
Anyone else kinda worried Snoke seems like a "No fun allowed" type guy?
Palpatine was great because he was pure evil but also lighthearted. Even more the PT where he was full Looney Tunes in Return of the Jedi he's basically spends the whole time laughing and busting Luke's balls about his faggoty Jedi weapon.
>>63794744
It's been so long
>>63796332
>tfw snoke got rid of the red guards swank uniforms and made them put on the regular white shit.
Anyone else about to seperate? How is the job market?
>>63768638
Implying that the whole movie wasn't entirely conclusions. May as well have had b done a write a script one line at a time thread.
>>63770570
Episode X and/or XI will feature a hermit Rey (played by some other old woman because they will do another long time jump but won't wait that long) training a young Asian transgender the ways of the force.
Is Snoke really that Big of a guy or dose he just like big holograms?
>>63768323
>muh literal fanfics they meant so much to me
>>63778536
So they can have an expository scene explaining it instead of another running from monsters scene.
>>63768390
which one was Snoke portrayed as in the movie? left or right?
>>63784776
>the desecration of Vader
That reminds me, Harrison Ford probably insisted on Han being killed so Abrams can't desecrate him in future movies.
>>63798563
Elements mixed from both, more scarring on the left side of his face. Though parts of his face was obscured.
My theory is that Snoke is just a holocron of Plageius. This could have been found during Luke's training of the other jedi including Kylo Ren. If Plageius did bring Anakin to life through the force, it would make sense as to why he and Kylo would be obsessive over Vader, and why killing Luke would be so important.
>>63800392
No, he insisted on being killed so he won't have to star in any movies. Ford has always loathed Star Wars and originally wanted to get written out of the series by dying in Empire instead of getting his ass frozen in Carbonite.
>>63798563
He looked more like the right side to me. Fucking stupid.
>>63801159
>Ford has always loathed Star Wars
Source?
>>63796332
Sheev was a master ruseman.
>>63801281
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-features/56681-does-harrison-ford-hate-star-wars
For instance.
It seems to him it's nothing more than a gig.
I think it's a human taken over by Plagueis, and his body is slowly morphing back into his muun body.
Also
>yfw Snokes theme is the Plagueis theme from ROTS
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>>63801665
>>63801919
What, did you think Ford embraced it as much as Hamill?
>>63778536
That thousand year old Jawa will know.
>>63801987
No, but I didn't think he would dislike it to such an extent.
>>63768179
Heres an interesting thought. Since anakin was born of immaculate conception, and his mother said i dont know what happened.
What if plagueis force spirit impregnated her, being reborn as anakin with a human vessel.
A reincarnation with no memory of his previous life.
What if this was his way of cheating death?
Assuming sheev killed plagueis, and then anakin kills sheev in the end and also considering typical lucas worldly influences like buddhist mythology and so on, could this be what happened?
Someone even said its possible he was conceived by midochlorians alone.
>>63794700
Not really it's an excuse to show off her body under the guise of her kids dressing in shitty costumes
>>63801919
If it helps he really loves Indiana Jones tho
>>63802117
Well, i mean, having to deal with Star Wars fans for several decades when he was trying to do other stuff must've taken quite a toll.
I found the end of that article oddly amusing though. Carpentry is serious business.
>>63790410
try 4 years ago you fucking faggot
>>63794688
They need to be in the same star system to see planets blow up like it was in this shit movie. It's just retarded.
>>63802184
PLAGUEIS WAS STILL ALIVE DURING THE EVENTS OF EPISODE 1
