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Nigga was only 24 when he made Citizen Kane. Look at him. He's
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Nigga was only 24 when he made Citizen Kane. Look at him. He's a baby. Why don't you go and do what he did?
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Anyone who is white could do it, but I'm a minority, so I don't have that privilege.
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>that fake plastic skull
No style whatsoever.
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>>63709800
>but I'm a minority, so I room temperature IQ.
ftfy
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I forget how fucking good the makeup is in Citizen Kane because I always believed Welles was actually in his 40s for most of it
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Literally every college student in he country is writing a screen play right now. I even thought about it but I didn't want to waste my time with a movie script that wasn't going to be made
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>>63709711
>a balding baby
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>>63709800
HOL UP
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AAAAAAAAH THE FRENCH...
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I'm 28 and still just coming to terms with the fact that I am and always will be an insignificant speck in the great sands of history.

At least I have endless internet porn to salve my wounds
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>>63710121
>being creative is a waste of time
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>>63710121
>Literally every college student in he country is writing a screen play right now

You're certainly optimistic in your own ideas
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>>63710192
>insignificant speck
just because youre mexican you can still achieve nice things in life anon
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Paul Thomas Anderson made Boogie Nights when he was 26. The movie it was based off of "The Dirk Diggler Story" he made when he was 18.
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>>63709711
for what? I hate humanity and don't want to entertain anyone.
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>>63709711
>comparing yourself to famous people you've never met
That's what women do, you faggot
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>>63710222
You could always go full Unabomber.
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>>63710982
Oh it shows.
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>>63710982
>Comparing PTA to Orson Welles
>Was 2 yrs older in the comparison
>And 55 years later
>And wasn't even his first film
>And Kane is still better than Boogie Nights

God I hate every fucking director from this era. Not one film worth a damn, not a single one.
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>>63710192
you could always shoot up some people, then you'll be immortalized for life.
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maybe when 4chan eventually shuts down i'll finally have the motivation to get started on my film.
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>>63711466
Nah. I don't have it in me to kill other people.

Plus those shooters have infamy for a week and then they're mostly forgotten about. Kill a couple dozen people and you'll make headlines. Kill a couple hundred thousand and you'll make history books.
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>>63711428
>le wrong generayshun
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>>63709965
The fucking irony holy shit.
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>>63711644
So what is good? The Master? The Fighter? Reservoir Dogs? Grand Budapest Hotel? Gone Girl? They're all shit mate.
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>>63710241
>>63711466
You two need to learn English.
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>>63710982
Why did you post Mark Wahlberg?
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>>63710121
>Literally every college student in he country is writing a screen play right now

At best 20-25% of those screenplays actually get finished and at best only like 10% go through any sort of revision..

I work for an agent/editor who sells shit to film companies/publishers. He asks me for my opinion on screenplays/novel manuscripts and most of it is fucking horrible. We get a lot of stuff that looks solid but the writer refuses to work with us on making it better because "it's already perfect."

If you are a writer that has the ability to look at your shit and go "wow this is pretty terrible I need to change some stuff" and can also listen to the advice that people who look at writing for a living and know what does/doesn't work then you're already better than like 85% of other writers. Learn to bend but not break and if you have some modicum of talent you'll prob have some success eventually.

College means fuckall too. It'll help you become a better writer sure but it's not needed. We recently got a good deal with one of the big publishers about something written by a 37 year old who dropped out of high school and has worked shit jobs while writing in his spare time. Dude just straight up has talent and the ability to revise.

Go for it anon. Write your screenplay then rip it to shreds afterward. Keep doing that till it's good.
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>>63710121
orson is a special case
he wasn't some college kid who ran his script over to hollywood
he made it big first and hollywood came running to him
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>>63709711
is that the joker from gotham?
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>>63709711
>Why don't you go and do what he did?

It's hard to be a serial killer these days
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>>63709711
Copy german movies of the same kind that came before and take all the glory because only Hollywood matters?
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>>63709711
Joss Whedon: Age of Ultron broke me
JJ Abrams: I won't be returning, it was really hard.


Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break..
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>>63711466
>immortalized for life.
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>>63709711
Is that River Phoenix? Nigger, he died when he was 23.
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>>63709711
Because Iam a pole
Poles have less privileges than niggers
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>>63714551
That's because poles are worth less than niggers.
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>>63712524
Seriously? But how do I send my screen play out without the company ripping me off
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The day I learn how to properly expose my camera is the day I'll start making films. I'm too fucking retarded to figure it out.
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>>63711767
What a shit taste in shit taste.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH1PJTY9AVA

ROSEBUD FROZEN PEAS
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>>63709711
>I'm only 21, why haven't I made the most overrated film in existence yet?

Fuck this I'm going back to /his/.
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>>63715319
proving once again that historians have terrible taste in everything
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>>63715381
Even entry level shit like Stray Dog or the Human Condition trilogy is better than Citizen Kane.

Keep trying though you film school reject redditor.
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The fact that Orson Welles couldn't get a major project off the ground...even for a TV movie...is something worth pondering for a moment.

Actors like DeNiro turned him down when he was making his political drama, "The Big Brass Ring", because they weren't going to receive their usual salary. Think about that. Now look back at DeNiro's track record. Mostly gangsters in lame comedies.

https://youtu.be/1qRoyUcOi4E
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>>63709711
Because most studios would not want to make a film like Citizen Kane nowadays. It's not an action blockbuster that is practically guaranteed to make back what they spend so the risk is too high and the script never gets picked up. He'd have to go to a smaller studio where they don't have the resources to make it and market it correctly.

But also because I'm lazy and dumb.
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>>63709711
Because there wasn't enough chase scenes in that movie and I don't think there was a single gun battle. What was he thinking?
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>>63714642

Eh I won't lie and say there's an easy answer. We get clients now and then who are slow to trust because they've been ripped off before. The chance of it happening is pretty small because it's easy for a company to get found out and while usually nothing happens to them, there's always the possibility of huge backlash. No company likes having the stigma that they've ripped off people before attached to them.

Use your instincts. If you're unsure, get a lawyer. There are lawyers who specialize in novels/screenwriting that will make any company have second thoughts of ripping you off. They usually aren't too expensive and can probably also advise you on reputable companies to go through. A lot of those guys have companies they work directly with and share clients with.

Honestly I recommend just getting a lawyer period, even if you trust the company.
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>>63711767
Nightcrawler.
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>>63709711
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFevH5vP32s
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>>63709711
>implying I'm as smart and based as Orson fucking Welles
>implying I don't live in some shithole outside the US and even if I was as capable as him I would be able to pull it through
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>>63710123
He's not balding you retarded faggot.
Seriously most of you don't even know what that means.
I'm balding, I know what it looks like
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>>63712524
I'm writing tiny little screenplays at the moment. Short, three-page pieces of shit, but I'm finishing them, and that's more than I've ever done.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6uwaxNQt5HRaGVheWhXYUpTYk0

This is one I've posted in the last few /swg/s, and I'm actually pretty happy with it considering how long it took to write (like 30 minutes). Gonna start revising soon.
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>>63709965
you idiot!!!!!!!!!
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>>63715619
Orson Welles had notorious completion anxiety and drinking problems, as well as not making a commercial success since 1946. Financially it made sense not to finance him in the 60s-70s, only hindsight says otherwise
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I forgot he did King Lear (1200 B.C. but Welles plays him with a brogue). Too bad that there isn't better picture quality available!

I remembered Macbeth (1050 A.D.)

And Chimes at Midnight (15th Century)

Sad to hear that his Venetian project was shut down due to tax concerns.

http://youtu.be/x6xBumLVBLY
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>>63716131
It's just astounding that companies aren't more capable of spotting these legacy Directors when they appear.

Just think if Fox or Paramount, or even ABC television had cultivated a working relationship with Welles on the cheap. Today they could draw on that intellectual resource and revenue endlessly, but you're right, Welles would probably have tortured any studio that stuck their neck out for him.
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>>63709711
So? Citizen Kane wasn't great. Look at his later stuff. Much superior.
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>>63715319
>anything popular is bad
I remember being a teenager too.
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>>63716854
>overrated = bad
>you in charge of reading comprehension and knowing what words mean
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>>63712524
hey, I love to screenplay and short story mostly for fun on my own. you think how many years will it take me to become really good at it?
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>>63715963
AHHHHH, the FRENCH champagne...
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I don't have anyone that could pay for me to make a movie. I've got a few screenplays that many people have said had potential, including a few execs, but of course it's not something they would touch as i'm just an amateur.

The market is very different for filmmakers than it was so many years ago.
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>>63709800
>Anyone who is white could do it, but I'm a minority, so I don't have the drive, ambition, or skill to do it myself, and instead will just complain about white people not doing it for me.

FTFY nigger
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>don't have any friends or charisma to get actors
>only person I could convince is my mom to hold the camera
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>>63715963
Goofy Orson is a world wonder.
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>>63709711
>nigga

Fuck off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DPW44-I3n4

That fucking vocal presence.
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>>63717250
I can't even convince my mom. im fucked
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Welles was a legit once-in-a-generation prodigy though. Before he ever came to Hollywood he was a star in theatre and radio, by 16-years-old he was already an acclaimed stage actor in Dublin. These are the years your average 4chan user spent jerking off to Neon Genesis Evangelion and playing Counter-Strike.
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Well take into account that when he did what he did, it's no surprise that anything made today on par or better than citizen kane will be looked down uppon for having advantages that PTA didn't. AKA fuck off no one cares about your stupid old movie grandpa, just because it's old doesn't make it good.
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