>Mad Max
>rave reviews
>turns out to be pretty 'meh'
>Star Wars
>rave reviews
>turns out to be a near identical rehash of New Hope
What is up with critics being a lot less harsh these days?
They're paid moneyz
They don't want to deal with angry spergs
>>63701496
the whole entertainment industry is owned by 5 companies and movies only have a couple of weeks to make 90% of their box office so reviewers are both powerless and super-important for keeping the hype going.
>>63701496
Only middlebrow trash can't appreciate Mad Max.
>>63701520
This
Gamergate started the same way when people were uncovering how corrupt the games press actually was
>pretty 'meh'
sure thing family
whatever you say
>>63701589
>muh press corruption
The press has always been corrupt. It just shows the age of GGfags when they act like this is some crazy thing. Welcome to the world.
>>63701496
>Mad Max
>rave reviews
>turns out to be pretty 'meh'
Fuck off.
>>63701640
>The press has always been corrupt
JUST ACCEPT IT NERDS XD
Least those fagets tried to do something before it got hijacked into another oppression olympics.
>>63701496
>mad max is meh
Look at how contrarian I am!
>>63701675
No they didn't. It devolved into hate mongering and lynch mobbing on both sides, as expected. Nothing was changed.
>>63701589
Film journalism is different than video game journalism.
I think marvel factory movies would be a better example
They generally get good reviews despite all being exactly the same
Mad max had some artistic intent even if you didn't like it
>>63701640
>>63701675
We really should do something about this shit. It's a bit ridiculous how many people are paid to write lies for a huge audience. The plebs aren't going to liberate themselves.
>>63701644
>>63701700
It was, it's literally one big escort missions
>B-BUT MUH ASSPLOSIANS
i-it's only bad when Michael Bay does them, right? Fuck off reddit
>>63701702
They blew the lid on it like i said before the oppression olympics began.
>>63701702
>hate mongering and lynch mobbing
That's pretty much what oppression olympics means. Both sides got hijacked by small, elite groups of professional victims obsessed with flinging shit rather than discussing anything because they're both too insane to hold a proper discussion.
>>63701589
Goobergate was about hating women
>>63701707
People who haven't directed a movie in their lives criticising movies
>different
>>63701496
>Mad Max
>meh
http://yearendlists.com/category/2015-movies/
It's widely considered one of the best films of the year. Even by prestigious magazines like Sight & Sound.
>>63701740
It was a big escort mission that grabbed your attention, sounded and looked amazing and you cared about.
>>63701675
>>63701702
>>63701747
im ready to end the corrupt assholes when you guys are.
>>63701770
Not op but I don't know why that is. I can barely remember any of the action sequences, and they made up 90% of the movie.
>>63701740
Well yes, but there is nothing wrong about that. The critics already called it "the modern General" and Keatonesque.
Reviews becoming sponsored content for people who don't want to be confronted with truths that might be negativ about something they blindly follow to be part of a bigger trend.
>>63701753
Goobergate was sparked by a legitimate complaint that immediately devolved into the old muh soggy knees and muh feminazis
>>63701781
I'm willing to kill the system. Where to start? This isn't video games where everyone is blatantly being given piles of free shit/literally in bed with people they're meant to be informing us about, Rotten Tomatoes is more a Serpico-type, system is rotten to the core problem that's so embedded that it doesn't even need formal rules to stay up.
The only viable way to stop it I see is for Hollywood to crash, but we can't exactly do that.
>>63701834
What about the meme of other centres of film from other nations eventually rising to Hollywood's level and actually reigniting competition?
>Remaking a New Hope but ending with a Cliffhanger
Fucking hell are people walking out... thinking they saw something good?
Were going to be waiting four years for a conclusion
>>63701770
>It's widely considered one of the best films of the year
Oh shit, I guess that confirms it them, right?
>>63701740
I think the problem here is that you don't understand the language of film . This reminds me of almost all "YouTube reviewers"
They try to point how something is "wrong" when they mean "it didn't work". You could have a film be dialog free non-stop fight sequence but if it's well done it could be a good film.
You could shot a scene with a guy sleeping for 2 hours and if you do it well it could "work".
>>63701857
No. Critics genuinely loved that movie. I doubt people who have Mad Max among arthouse films are paid shills.
Movie critics have become like video game critics. The studios have enough control over who can see what movie when (not to mention where they can post it) to where they can freeze out anyone that isn't firmly attached to the designated sucking cocks.
Reviews have become nothing but fodder for aggregator sites that misrepresent and misconstrue all reviews into a simple color coded system designed to draw the braindead masses to theater seats.
>>63701834
Derail any thread that uses a rotten tomatoes screencap in the OP.
>>63701848
Hollywood has the world's audiences by the balls pretty tightly. Europe just makes movies about sex addicts and genderqueer african expats, China's okay but will never thrive outside of China like Hollywood, Australia is a joke, South-East Asia doesn't have the money. Who can compete?
The only hope of a foreign industry challenging Hollywood I see is a 1/10000000 chance that pic related absolutely destroys the international box office with his upcoming meme movie. Bonus points because America just tried the same thing last year and it was shit.
Lower standards for being a reviewer. Seriously.
Most are just tumblr bloggers. Not even joking.
Coupled with the serious, dramatic decline in blockbuster quality. Something decent and passable looks amazing.
I mean, have you actually watched Marvel's output for instance? It's literally on par story and characters wise (and performance and direction wise) with bad to mediocre TV with production values of a mid budget 90's movie.
It's shameful really.
>>63701906
bollywood will save us all
>>63701707
Maybe it used to be different but not anymore.
Nowadays every mediocre blockbuster has a 98% rating on ROTTEN TOMATOES.
>>63701884
>Critics genuinely loved that movie.
if you read the reviews at the time it was all "there is a lot of driving 7/10"
critics knew it was for an audience with low expectations, accepted it had nice visuals and shrugged.
>>63701928
I'd take anything over that. I'd take the self-flagellating European apology-core over Bollywood.
>>63701928
Bollywood is the lowest form of shit.
>>63701781
It'll happen when China blindsides Hollywood and all the shills are caught in the lie trying to prop up their dying empire
Might as well just hang back and keep giving them rope to hang themselves with at the moment
>>63701834
>This isn't video games where everyone is blatantly being given piles of free shit/literally in bed with people they're meant to be informing us about
Except that's exactly what happened.
The critics that got to rub shoulders with george lucas, abrams, boyega, mark hamil, etc, were basically guaranteed to suck the movie's cock so hard it fell off. No media conglomerate is going to allow people into early screenings unless those people are guaranteed to happily inhale the cock and hold it in their throats until they pass out.
>>63701987
>I'd take anything over that.
You should know by now to be extremely careful what you wish for.
Basically the entire function of bollywood is to have an "extreme low" from which to compare other works and say, "at least we're not that."
>>63701536
This. Even more dangerous than drawing pictures of Mohammed.
>>63702003
Well that's something. It's not as good as a testimony that JJ and Boyega double-teamed Chris Stuckman but it's something.
The trouble is normal people would see nothing wrong with that. Try convincing a normalfaggot that a professional critic getting privileges at a premiere is a conflict of interest.
>>63702003
>Happened
This is how film criticism has worked for decades. DECADES.
Everything you see in video games now already happened in the movie industry. GamerGate back then was called the Moral Majority.
Ebert And Siskel spent their time shitting on horror film fans and calling them rapists. Trying to out P.C. each other.
>>63702051
Ebert was weird with his taste. He despised Day of the Dead for stupid reasons but fucking loved Dawn of the Dead and defended it against all challengers.
>>63701962
>98% rating
And what about average rating? Not many blockbusters have above 8.0. And when it comes to best of the year lists they are almost never mentioned.
Look at this year:
>Spectre 6.4 / 6.6
>Ant-Man 6.8 / 6.8
>Age of Ultron 6.7 / 6.5
>Jurassic World 6.7 / 6.4
Only Inside Out and Mad Max were truly loved by critics.
>>63702003
Devin Faraci got to go to the premiere.
He said it was "ok".
>>63702051
Ebert and siskel shit on lots of shit though.
they'd praise Halloween but shit on Friday the 13th because Friday the 13th was a glib facsimile of Halloween m8.
>>63702073
Spurred on by Siskel, he went through a MUH FEMINISM, MUH SOCIAL JUSTICE BAN ALL DIS FILTH period in the 80's.
It was bizarre. See his positive 70's reviews of Last House On The Left or Dawn Of The Dead, and then see his review for stuff like I Spit On Your Grave.
>>63702078
Age of Ultron deserves lower though
>>63702022
but then how come they appreciate it this much? I guarantee nobody did this for the force awakens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GBFoxcIN7E
>>63701906
I mean over a larger timescale
>>63701775
>It was a big escort mission that grabbed your attention
Why was I supposed to care about these women other than that they're women? They didn't do anything to make me care about them.
These days 'Critic' translates to late 20's early 30's 'Pop culture fan' who grew up idolizing the movie industry, so now that they have a sliver of a chance of a hope of being somewhat tangentially related to it (shilling average to sub-par movies on Youtube) they're jumping at the chance. The Industry is more than willing to accomodate all the free and positive press.
It's just Video Games Journalism in a different form really. Fans who got caught up in their own self-important bullshit without realising they're playing directly into the hands of big business who don't give a flying fuck about anything other than M O N E Y.
>>63702051
How did a self confessed socialist like Ebert live with himself getting to see all these movies for free knowing that the people he gave advice and reviews too would have to use their own hard earned money to see the same thing.
I would have honestly killed myself under the pressure
>>63702111
>glib facsimile
Was there a review of the new star wars that called it that? Where is all this 'glib' posting coming from. I like the word glib and do not like it being reduced to a fucking /tv/ meme.
>>63702111
Incorrect.
Ebert praised Halloween.
Because this was before he went full blown SJW.
For instance;
>Blue Velvet
>1 star because Muh Soggy Knee
Or anything that contains Jennifer Jason Leigh;
>"How could they do this to Jennifer Jason Leigh? How could they put such a fresh and cheerful person into such a scuz-pit of a movie? Don't they know they have a star on their hands? I didn't even know who Leigh was when I walked into "Fast Times at Ridgemont High," and yet I was completely won over by her. She contained so much life and light that she was a joy to behold. And then she and everybody else in this so-called comedy is invited to plunge into offensive vulgarity."
From his One Star review of Fast Times At Ridgemont High
All this coming from the guy who wrote one of Russ Meyer's most offensive films.
>>63702078
>Guardians of MEME -91%
>The Avengers - 92%
>Inside Out -98%
>Mad Max -97%
>Rogue Nation - 93%
All of these are generic trash.
>>63702212
>look at me and how patrician I am
>I hate mainstream cinema even if it's good
>>63701496
>turns out to be pretty 'meh'
Are you gay?
>>63702149
They're not strong enough characters to care about individually, but you care for their shared plight.
And you care for Furiosa for many different reasons.
>>63702212
Hello reddit
Thats exactly how lucas wanted it with the prequels
thats what he meant by poetry
he wanted the prequels to be symmetrical to the OT
>>63702127
6.5 is getting fairly accurate. It was between there and 6.0.
>>63702202
Fast Times At Ridgemont High is a weird fucking movie. Maybe it's accurate towards how American high-schoolers were in the 80's but I can almost agree with Ebert's disgust. The movie's 70% a skeezy NTR (another term for cuck for you plebs) story and the rest is the retarded stoner doing nothing and that one knob getting fired then subduing a criminal. What the fuck's it getting at?
It was nice as an aesthetic experience because of all the raw teenage culture but if you try to look at it as an attempt at telling an entertaining story it's kind of shocking.
>>63702264
>but you care for their shared plight.
Nah I don't. That never happened in the movie. Even though I appreciate Fury Road as a visual tour de force, it is extremely lacking in any kind of story.
>>63702212
Guardians wasn't really "generic". It pushed the tongue-in-cheek side much further than most sci-fi. it was trying to be fun and succeeded thanks to having the characters and setting already in place.
>>63702153
>Movie Critics
>Internet age
Pic related. This is what we are dealing with.
>"I’ve seen JACK REACHER for about a month now."
>"JACK REACHER is an old school man with internally created way of life...Living day by day the way he lives."
>"This film is called JACK REACHER and after you see it, you’ll know the name and what it stands for."
Or Olympus Has Fallen;
>"I saw a screening of Olympus Has Fallen in Tucson last night. I'm an action movie junkie and this movie blew me away! Original Die Hard on steroids!!"
>"Many complained about how McClane made it through the latest Die Hard with hardly a scratch. Banning bleeds in this movie and he deals out justice and revenge with no remorse whatsoever!!"
>"In the first half of the movie, I along with everyone in the theater was left speechless watching the bad guys rain terror upon the White House."
>"It was like nothing I've ever seen on film."
>"After the massive assault is finally over and the Koreans think they have the place under control, then Banning tries his best to save the day."
>"The first half almost felt too real and very possible given the political climate we currently have with Pyongyang."
>>63702319
Second one could be a legitimate review.
It's just a legitimate review by a stupid person.
Rotten Tomatoes has always been shilling central.
Mad Max was just a decent action movie overhyped as a masterpiece.
>>63702319
I don't know if these are real or not but I'm not checking. Confirming that somebody paid to write about movies liked Olympus Has Fallen would kill me.
>>63702298
It's entertaining as fuck because it feels authentic and it's well made.
That's why it's widely regarded as a classic of it's particular sub-genre and still watched and replayed heavily to this day.
Ebert literally hated it because of Muh Soggy Knee and white knighting for Jennifer Jason Leigh.
Anything but portraying her as a beautiful angelic being sent down to piss on us mere mortals was met with utter disgust.
>As Howell flees down empty desert highways from the violence of Hauer, he is befriended by a young waitress (Jennifer Jason Leigh).
>She believes that he is innocent and goes on the run with him.
>But the movie does not develop into a standard story of teenagers in love. And the Leigh character's death - she is tied hand and foot between two giant trucks and pulled in two - is so grotesquely out of proportion with the main business of this movie that it suggests a deep sickness at the screenplay stage.
Although, I guess since the screenwriter later went on to be a deranged murderer, I guess Ebert might have been right in that case.
>>63702212
>Generic trash
I wouldn't go that far, but not one of them was better than a 3/5 or a 6/10.
But then again, that's a PASS rating and your RT rating is based on the amount of passes right?
>People not knowing the differences between film critics and video game critics, as well as the importance of reviews in each industry.
Topfuckingkek
You're just a contrarian dumbass
>>63702352
It's not just RT.
>>63701770
And there is this. From Cannes (International critics).
1. "AS MIL E UMA NOITES (Arabian Nights)" (Miguel GOMEZ) [8.35/44 1.2]
2. "MAD MAX: FURY ROAD" (George MILLER) [8.00/49 1.4]
3. "CAROL" (Todd HAYNES) [7.94/90 1.6]
4. "CEMETERY OF SPLENDOUR (RAK TI KHON KAEN)" (Apichatpong "Joe" WEERASETHAKUL) [7.93/55 2.0]
5. "INSIDE OUT (VICE-VERSA)" (Pete DOCTER & Ronaldo DEL CARMEN) [7.89/30 1.4]
6. "THE ASSASSIN (Nie Yinniang/聶隱娘)" (HOU Hsiao Hsien) Best Director [7.85/88 1.9]
7. "TREASURE (Comoara)" (Corneliu PORUMBOIU) UCR Prix "Un Certain Talent" [7.64/44 1.0]
8. "TROIS SOUVENIRS DE JEUNESSE (My Golden Years)" (Arnaud DESPLECHIN) SACD Prize [7.50/41 1.3]
>>63702398
>the screenwriter later went on to be a deranged murderer
What?
>>63702051
>GamerGate back then was called the Moral Majority.
This has got to be the least correct statement I have ever seen in my life. Even if you buy into the idea they were luchador mask wearing cyber terrorists who wanted to drive women out of technology that's still nothing like the moral majority, are you on fucking crack? Please explain your reasoning, if you could.
>>63701496
Critics have never been harsh.
Just look at the scores they give to capeshit, Nolan or Tarantino.
>>63702131
Indians go nuts for bollywood because their lives are shit.
>>63702149
They were runaway slaves, they just wanted their freedom, who can't sympathize with that?
>>63702502
I'm of course referring to the "ANTI" Gamer Gate, Nu-Jack Thompson, Millenial Mary Whitehouse brigade. Not the "GamerGate" faction of the conflict.
>>63702453
The writer of The Hitcher, Eric Red, went a little funny in the head and took his fetish for violent death via car crash out of his screenplays (yes, plural) and into the real world. Pic related.
>>63702554
Yeah I know, I just wanted an excuse to post that video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck6hE2uCrPY
>>63702073
... yes it is so weird that ebert loved one of the original zombie movies and hated one of the cheap over-done knockoffs that came years later
>>63702565
It's hard to care considering how fucked society is - ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T SEE HOW MORTEN JOE MISTREATED THEM
It's all hearsay.
>>63702616
Day of the Dead is great though, are you really saying that Day is a cheap knock-off of Dawn?
>>63702616
>>63702662
>>63702073
Day of the Dead is a movie you have to fall in love with. Like I loved Dawn of the Dead as a kid, but was only okay with Day as it was too talky. As an adult, I love it more than Dawn. Ebert only watched it once and probably would only watch it once.
>>63702647
In the comics there is an extended "implied" rape. Basically Morten taking the girls "off camera" for sexy times.
SJW's freaked the fuck out and screamed about them befouling their Stronk Independent Womyn.
Which makes no sense since the rape and abuse was the driving force behind their escape and empowerment.
>>63702720
>>63702662
The point is it came years later, after a huge glut of similar movies.
People get tired of things.
>>63702734
>Which makes no sense since the rape and abuse was the driving force behind their escape and empowerment.
If he was slapping bitches and raping them, yeah. GIVE ONE OF THEM A BLACK EYE OR SOMETHING
But they all looked beautiful and pristine and well taken care of in a fucked society. It makes Joe look sympathetic.
>>63702720
I can understand that sentiment. It really does get weird with the idea of zombies, but I appreciate the creativity and balls to it. I love how un-Hollywood like all of Romero's work is. His dead movies almost feel more Italian than American.
His work makes me think of another world where Hollywood was never a thing and American film culture never became an industry. Romero's got to be one of the realest American's to ever make movies. I sometimes think his work is the real American style and Hollywood is the bizarre outlier.
>>63701616
it is tho, in fact the whole 2015 was pretty meh for movies. The only thing that could make it memorable is star wars.
>>63702051
Its still a recent development in my mind. In a lot of minds. Journalistic entities becoming subletted by corporate interests who's hand they must avoid biting at all costs, until eventually they can't actually report on anything beyond how great [corporation] is or die, who were then replaced with blogs who can only do the same thing, or die, is such an affront that I refuse to believe it is the way things will continue to be, forever. Because, for some strange and possibly autistic reason, I believe things have to get better as time goes on.
I'm running out of reasons to not just kill myself and it confuses/scares me that suicide rates aren't higher.
It's called "You won't get early access to the next movie if you make a bad review"
If you're a reviewer you're disposable.
>>63701753
>>63702778
All 3 dead movies were ahead of their time.
I couldn't imagine being alive when Night was released and thinking these zombie things are the scariest things ever made.
Dawn of the Dead is so smart and well made, it feels like a Hollywood production but lacks the ball cutting of even R-rated movies. It shows gruesome things and even talks about things like abortion. On top of giving the 4 main characters depth so you care when they die.
Day is also real good with how it handles the soldier characters. They're not rapist monsters, they're human beings. So even at their worst moments you feel bad when they get eaten... Rhodes excluded of course. (See also: 28 Days Later if you want to see how retards handle soldier characters)
>>63702647
>All hearsay
>pregnant
>>63702770
Like I said, in the prequel comics you see the actual shit go down.
So SJW sites called for the writer to be sacked and taken away from future work on Mad Maxine related stuff.
>>63702850
It's not a recent development. It's literally been a Day One issue. Film reviewers and "news" sites are 99.9% promotional outlets for the industry they cover. That's how it's always been.
There are of course neutral and objective reviewers and news sources, but they are a minority. If they do become popular, they usually "sell out".
See AICN. The inspiration behind all internet film and entertainment news sites.
They went from running leaked news and test screening reviews to literally enforcing positive review stipulations on their reviewers for films they were advertising. Firing employees over failing to hand out the required number of faint praise positive reviews to whatever shit was being run on their banners that week.
Print media wasn't even worth discussing. Paper owned by Murdoch?
Pretty much every 20th Century Fox release gets a glowing review.
And so on.
You're talking about fucking ENTERTAINMENT. Who gives a shit. The fact that actual important news is manipulated should concern you more.
>>63702964
Yes and you can get pregnant through consensual sex.
>>63702977
They stated Morten never let them see other men, let alone have sex with them.
>>63702957
I fucking hate the last half of 28 Days Later. If any movie took a solid premise and went full retard with it it's that one.
Romero really is a ballsy dude. I actually love his other work too. Knightriders is cool as fuck.
>>63702973
>It's literally been a Day One issue.
Dude. No. Freedom of the press used to be sacrosanct. Protected from corporate and government interest alike with righteous fury. Hell, if you take journalism classes, you'll still be hammered with the idea that all that matters is truth and anyone in the way of that can hang.
The press becoming nothing but a series of corporate puppets is not a day one issue. Its a millennial issue.
>>63703087
I love Creepshow (METEOR SHIT. also that head shot of the cunty wife and the movie still got an R) and Martin is pretty damn good.
>>63702317
It's overall plot was horribly generic though, it was just like every other marvel movie. They can be good movies, sure, but they also tend to be horribly formulaic.
>>63702593
>I'm of course referring to the "ANTI" Gamer Gate, Nu-Jack Thompson, Millenial Mary Whitehouse brigade. Not the "GamerGate" faction of the conflict.
Oh that makes infinitely more sense, that's actually quite an apt observation. My apologies.
>>63702647
I don't care how fucked up the world is slavery is wrong.
>>63702770
>treating human beings as his literal property
>looking sympathetic
choose one
>>63701496
Mad Max is great action
>>63703327
at least the tone was original. it was kind of like Kick-ass in that it semi-subverted the genre but had to stick to the basic formula to avoid going off the rails. I don't expect a single movie to do absolutely everything.
>>63702850
>I'm running out of reasons to not just kill myself and it confuses/scares me that suicide rates aren't higher.
I've always thought a lot of car accidents are probably unreported suicides. I mean if some guy decides to veer off the road into a tree who's going to be able to tell after the fact they did it deliberately? Or the omnipresent problem of determining whether a drug overdose was deliberate or not, considering how idiotically a lot of people use their drugs it's basically impossible to tell between trying to kill yourself and trying to get high in a lot of cases.
>>63703423
"I don't care how starving I am, I'm not eating humans."-Said before eating another person
>>63703449
So what should he do? What would they do if he let them go? Remember: These are very good looking girls and the world is completely fucked.
>>63703258
>Protected from corporate and government interest alike
Protected from the government sure but not corporations, where in the hell did you get that idea from?
>The press becoming nothing but a series of corporate puppets is not a day one issue. Its a millennial issue.
Yeah I'm sure employees at a company serving the interests of their employers is something that only started happening in the past couple decades.
>>63702198
Yeah - it was the first bad review for the new Star Wars movie on rotten tomatoes
>>63703515
He has enough centralized power to de-fuck his immediate surroundings somewhat.
>>63703488
That's definitely true, but otherwise it was just so horribly formulaic, it really put me off the film which I otherwise liked.
>>63703487
a movie called mad max should actually be about mad max
>>63703515
>having to eat someone because you're starving
>making someone your slave because you want to fuck them
Slightly different situations there friend.
>>63703644
Not really. A movie called Alexander Nevsky isn't about Alexander Nevsky.
>>63703583
Could you be any more of a worthless braindead millennial?
Yes, profit-centric journalism is most certainly a very recent issue.
>>63703607
But when does it become his job to take care of them? And what should he get in return from girls that have nothing more than their looks?
>>63703651
Are you forgetting that there aren't any healthy babies being born and that society needs men and women that aren't just cannon fodder or milk machines?
>>63703694
Do you really think the owners of newspapers and tv stations didn't have any influence over what their reports wrote in the past, really? Have you ever heard of a man called William Randolph Hearst by any chance?
>>63703728
*what their reporters wrote
>>63703728
Holy shit nigger just go watch network or something.
>>63701496
they are paid off by hollywood kikes
>>63701753
just a few days ago a game was denied a port to the West because those fucking feminist cunts would have a problem with the character design
they take away my vidya, yea i'll hate you for it dumb fucking females
Yes, an elaborate conspiracy makes far more sense then a bunch of people liking a movie.
I'm incapable of taking the PAID REVIEWS people seriously because it's admitting you're so insecure in your own opinions you have to believe in a gigantic corporate conspiracy that's reaching out to hundreds of people all over the world then accept the fact that your opinion isn't the majority.
>>63703700
It is unknown whether or not they have something beyond their looks.
Perhaps this environment does not permit them to find a different role.
He has made it his job to take care of people, else he would be dropping bullets rather than water. It then delves within how the society of his protectorate works.
It's all about perspective. You can be right either way. Independent of being right you can or you cannot be realistic. There is an amount of fluidity in the presented environment. Within the bounds of still being realistic you can manage to be slightly more civilized than slave harems.
>>63703776
You're delusional if you think these issues are some recent problem, they've been around as long as the media has. Why do you think we even have the concept of journalistic ethics which is hammered on so strongly? Because it didn't fucking exist in the past and journalists were just mouthpieces for whoever ran the paper.
And yes I have seen Network, it's much more about the media turning into vapid meaningless shit rather then it being taken over by corporate interests, it's very obvious in the film that the suits have been running the show for a long time. When Howard gets called into that meeting it isn't treated as if it's some massive change in how tv networks operate, they're just explaining to him how it really works.
>>63703849
Nobodies actually free. That's the point I'm making.
>>63703826
Good. Fuck you manchildren.
>>63703850
Give me your personal definition of "recent," please.
>>63703826
>m-muh perverted Japanese toys
>>63702239
Don't be a glib.
>>63703883
Correct, my only point is that many factors change how you see your shackles; or whether you see them at all. Basic social consciousness is inescapable whilst more than a single person cooperate.
>>63703850
>I have seen Network, it's much more about the media turning into vapid meaningless shit rather then it being taken over by corporate interests
So you didn't understand network.
I mean, that's not surprising. You're acting as if corporatism is the way its always been because you, yourself, have seen nothing but corporatism in your lifetime. People tend to have trouble imagining life outside of the bubbles they were raised in.
>>63703937
I mean just think about this
I'm Immorten Joe and you're one of the 8 slave girls. I say you're all free to go. 4 want to stay while you of one of the four want to leave.
So where do you go? What do you do? Do you become one of the poor dregs outside the castle? Do you try to walk the salt and go to one of the other warring gang settlements?
This is why the ending of the movie is terrible. Who do you now get milk from now that the milk machine women are free? There aren't any animals. Are the poor dregs meant to starve? Cause they're clearly sustained on it.
It's not like they were practicing cannibalism. I could understand why they'd want to leave if Joe fed the womens babies to the people or his men.
>>63704066
>so, hay guys, we liberated the citadel and stuff... but... we uh, have to keep doing things the same way joe did, because that's the only way this shit is sustainable.
To be fair, pumping out all the ground water and storing it in a mountain did kinda cause the greenplace/forest to die. But the world of mad max is dying.
>>63701496
Man I was dissapointed by Fury Road. There were moments that were completely pointless and dragged out like that whole bit where they are talking or just standing in the desert. Fucking keep it going. Also, the characters were boring. No clever one-liners either to lighten the mood. I don't know who I was supposed to think of as a bad-ass in that movie. It didn't present anyone in that light. If you're going to be an action film, be a fucking action film.
>>63704224
nice one mate
>>63704066
Immorten Joe could say they're all free to go while pointing at the door to hell to be deliberately mocking. Maybe some would take death.
Or given his power, he could say that they're free to go; he could also drop a message out to the general populace stating that if somebody murders or rapes another person then they are exiled from the land of drinkable water.
There are crops available. I didn't read too much into the milk mothers being completely enslaved. They could keep doing it and get reimbursed somehow.
These things are all within the realm of possibility. It is not unheard of human beings choosing to pursue what may be possible rather than what seems immediately sensible.
And quite specifically in this film, their destination is a safe location that they believe to exist. They generally trust Furiosa. And Furiosa has good intentions despite being completely blinded by childhood nostalgia.
>>63704256
>>And quite specifically in this film, their destination is a safe location that they believe to exist. They generally trust Furiosa. And Furiosa has good intentions despite being completely blinded by childhood nostalgia.
>"I'm going to go somewhere I haven't seen since I was a child and risk the lives of myself and these girls while also working for Joe and not having done one single shred of recon to make sure it's still there."
Brava Furiosa
Brava
>>63704174
Is there a direct connection between the greenplace dying and Joe's stash? Geography would imply that they were separate.
Joe just lucked on an underground source while Greenplace naturally died as the water became more irradiated or something.
Oh one other legitimate question.
Did the oceans canonically dry up or something?
Because 160 days of travel by motorcycle is a ludicrously generous amount of time to tour Australia several times over.
>>63704322
Yeah, I'm saying that she was an idiot. I'm also saying that believing an idiot is incredibly commonplace.
>>63704366
But nothing about the situation seemed desperate
Furiosa should have been like "I don't know if it still exists..." and been unsure about it, and the driving force for her to finally do it is that Joe kills one of his brides for being too mouthy or something.
Joe is established as a threat and Furiosa is given a reason to act like an idiot.
Reviewers these days are too afraid of going against the grain. Just look at all the Marvel dreck that get great reviews for proof.
>>63704346
All water is connected. Drainage, etc.
And yea, the world of fury road is unrealistically fucked, far beyond how fucked it was at the end of thunderdome.
There's also no guarantee their 160 days of travel would be in a straight line. As even with navigational tools, straight lines, on earth, are really hard.
>>63704413
I'm not sure about the specifics, but the presentation is clear enough in communicating that something to drive them towards such desperation could very likely have happened, even if we didn't see it.
>>63701756
The critic's always been different from the artist you stupid /v/edditor
>>63704447
Sunrise and sunset act as an appropriate compass.
All water isn't really connected.
>>63704460
It's a movie, sometimes you need to show and tell and not just imply.
Mad max is feminist trash. Only cuck faggots like it
