Why is this show so good bros?
>>63691152
episode 2 out yet? torrent?
>>63691173
It is. I just streamed it from a vidlocker or whatever
budget! decent source material!
Is this the live thread?
>>63691218
I don't believe so, I just watched it on a stream. Wait, has it not aired on tv yet?
dharma foundation chinaman cameo as julie maos dad
It's airing on tv right now.
>>63691244
Oh fug
I couldn't hear that exchange at all, what was the gist of what was said?
>>63691270
the lady wants to know who the courier's boss is, but he ain't no snitch
I enjoy the books as the pulpy babby sci-fi they are, but that first episode was so incredibly poorly paced. I can't imagine this surviving.
Then again, it's SYFY or whatever, and they kept Stargate chugging for over a decade.
>>63691293
I'm OP, I already watched the second ep. I thought it was stronger than the first ep by quite a bit desu
It's a testament to Tom Jane's talents that he could make such a generic Gristle Hardapple detective so entertaining. He's really going for it in a way I wasn't expecting, he's got some seriously terrible and generic dialogue that he commits to and makes it work.
>>63691317
Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna keep watching because I like the stories, but I don't think it's gonna catch on with people. Plus it'll be a bit weird with the end of the first novel after all this focus on Detective Punisher.
shoulda cast sean bean as detective punisher
>>63691460
What did this poster mean by this?
>>63691196
>It is. I just streamed it from a vidlocker or whatever
I've seen episode 3 mislabelled as 2 on vodlocker but not the actual episode 2 yet.
>>63691548he dies???
>>63691775
>>63691796
GoddamitI haven't read the books
>>63691856
Neither have I
now that ive watched episode 2 about to marathon eps 3 & 4 hell yeah
WHERE ARE THE FUCK ARE THE TORRENTS FOR EPISODE 2 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>63691196
Why is episode 3 on torrents but not episode 2?
>>63692015
link or bullshit, literally nowhere on internet - except if you watched on TV?
>>63692069
>>63691743
OP here, guys I think I made a terrible mistake. It seems...it seems as if I just skipped episode 2 and watched 3 accidentally instead. Sure there were a couple 'previously on' scenes I didn't quite recall, but I thought it was just an error. Everything still kind of made sense. Oh god
>>63692048
Torrents when?
>>63692102
There was a "fake" e02 torrent which later was revealed to be the e03, I think that guy watched the wrong episode.
>>63692102
watching it on /tv/ dude. digging this show. got these crazy republicans on the commercial flashbacks too. pretty solid
>>63692114
At least it was early on in the series.
It's going to be ok anon.
>>63692255
so how long until the scene put this shit up
>>63692069
Eps 3&4 leaked because comcast are faggots.
>>63692292
ends in 5 minutes so however fast after that they usually are.
MAAAAAAAAARRRRRRSSSSSS!!!
Get your ass back to mars
>>63692311
So is it safe to assume that episode 2 will be uploaded today?
lol these guys want that word of mouth to shill this shit theyre streaming eps 1-4 for free. wasted some torrent dl cap noooo http://www.syfy.com/
>>63692500
Goddamnit, well I'm skipping 2 and going onto 4 then.
>>63692470
It's being aired now, so torrents should be up in under 30 minutes hopefully.
>>63692500
This content is not available in your location.
why is it always mars who are the dicks and not earth
>>63691152
This show is terrible, you've got to have the worst taste ever to suffer through baby's first science fiction show.
>>63692677
Mars dindu nuffin?
>>63692709
You can't hurt my feelings because I meditate
>>63691152
le space is le great gotta have a sex scene just ten minutes in CLASSY just like game of thrones!
Great plot Tip of the fedora to all the space memes!
>>63692677
Have you not been paying attention to the scenes on Earth? The ones that all revolve around torture?
>>63692779
Yes. We've seen this story done better at least 4 other times.
>>63692751
>sex is barbaric and fedoras are always bad
>>63692797
no, sex to retain viewers in a science fiction program means that they're aiming for the lowest common denominators who are confused that their wrestling program isn't on.
It's the same base shit like what they added to game of thrones because general audiences can't handle just fantasy dialogue alone.
>>63692797
>fedoras are always bad
they are now, buddy
If you ain't Humphrey Bogart you're in trouble
>>63692677
Earth are pretty clearly assholes man. Just look at how they treat Belters
>>63692796
Irrelevant to what you first said, cunt.
>>63692843
>hurr 99% hurrrrr
How can anyone fall for this manipulative dogshit?
>>63692879
What's wrong with you?
>>63692879
>Literally taking water away from people
>Not bad
Go fuck yourself, Randian douchebag
It's up bros
http://www.couchtuner.ag/2015/12/the-expanse-season-1-episode-2-the-big-empty/
yeah this political intrigue is cool and all butspace zombies when?
Childhood's End is one of my favorite Clarke novels. Sy-fy is doing a 3 part mini-series.
Is going to be shit isn't?
Also, for spoilers don't search Childhood's End for images.
>>63692921
If they follow the books, I think it will be quite a long time beforespace zombies
>>63692908
comcast stream?
comcast stream?
>>63692992
I'm a foreign poor fag who doesn't have a subscription.
holy shit baboo very bad man cameo! "give me some usual suspect indian looking guys"-casting director
>>63692992
>>63693021
>>63692992
*connectcast
fuck me up I keep confusing them
>>63692796
What does that have to do with Earth being at least as big a dick as Mars?
holy shit space lane!
>>63692973
>It's going to be shit isn't it?
They changed Strormgren from a UN official into a Missouri farm boy, what do you think?
>>63692895
No, the characters don't exist. Earth being all corporate oppressive is just manipulating people who believe in being the victim/99%.
It's a cheap tactic to get idiots to like the show because it tacitly agrees with their idiotic ideals.
>>63692985
Should be about episode 9 I think
>>63693109
We've seen this story told in every possible way it can be told already.
All expanse is doing is stumbling over well paved ground.
>>63692973
What kind of massive faggot do you have to be to like a story that is basically "haha atheism is right lol take that christians!"
I mean, even a 14 year old would say that's a bad loot.
>>63693200
>No, the characters don't exist. Earth being all corporate oppressive is just manipulating people who believe in being the victim/99%.
You're a real fucking idiot. It's fiction, it's not manipulation. And you really don't think anyone is exploited in real life? Keep sucking that capitalist dick.
>>63693224
but it's got space ships and things exploding
>>63693262
Keep using a computer to defend a justification for a commercial block while pretending to hate capitalism, you fucking moron.
>>63693200
>>63693259
So you didn't read the book then
>>63693264
So does star trek.
Science fiction is just awful when it's brought to a mass audience that doesn't give a shit and just wants to see explosions and sex.
It's just like game of thrones in that respect.
>>63693289
>Being even slightly in favour of labour rights
>Somehow makes me a communist
You really are a right-wing loon aren't you? I never said capitalism was evil. The Belters are clearly exploited, they're given no rights. Same as many people in the world today, workers in China for one.
>>63693292
Sure i did. It's called Protector. Written by Larry Niven.
Whatever this is, it's not as good as that. Niven didn't think so little of his audience that he'd keep people's attention with sex and violence every 5 minutes.
>>63693328
>keep sucking that capitalist dick!
>i-i-i-i love capitalism don't take my toys away!
What a moron. No wonder you like this show. It's written exclusively for you.
>>63693346
You haven't read the book. There is no sex and violence in Childhood's End. It's Arthur C Clarke, not RA Salvatore or some similar hack.
>>63693312
>Science fiction is just awful when it's brought to a mass audience that doesn't give a shit and just wants to see explosions and sex.
Why did you even write science fiction at the start of the sentence, how is this limited to being awful in science fiction?
You are a fucking idiot, dude.
>>63693346
Protector and anything about the Pak from his universe is a lot different from the Expanse books.
>>63693372
How's Ayn Rand's cock taste?
Do you have any actual defense for the view that workers in the third world are never exploited? Of course you don't.
>>63693390
We're talking about the expanse, you stupid cunt.
>>63693312
Well it's on syfy so it's not that mass an audience right?
Can't just watch star trek over and over anyway.
>>63693372
Are we not allowed shows with working class people?
>>63693195
S-strormgren?
>>63693407
because for science fiction to be good, it has to assume that the reader has at least a basic grasp of it.
Television cannot ever take that risk. So it is dumbed down into self parody.
>>63693411
They get a living wage. Suck on that, fatass. Throw your cell phone away if you want to fight against third world exploitation. Nobody wants to hear you croon about white guilt, faggot.
>>63693414
Follow the chain of replies, you fucking autist. We were discussing Childhood's End.
>>63693425
>Well it's on syfy so it's not that mass an audience right?
SyFy's highest rated show is the WWE.
>Are we not allowed shows with working class people?
Sure we are. Do they ALL have to be about some marxist bullshit?
>>63693476
>They get a living wage. Suck on that, fatass. Throw your cell phone away if you want to fight against third world exploitation. Nobody wants to hear you croon about white guilt, faggot.
No, they do not all get living wages retard. Many of them starve to death, some are children. And I literally never mentioned race, the ultimate demonstration that you're a right wing lunatic.
>>63693488
The thread is for the expanse regardless of your lack of attention span and taste.
I bet you fucking jizzed seeing that ufo block out christ. Could you tip your fedora any harder? Give me a fucking break.
>>63693476
Can you even read?
You specifically wrote science fiction, while what you said would be awful in any TV-show, regardless of genre.
Like I said, you are a fucking idiot.
>>63693500
How many people watch Helix though
Calm the fuck down.
>>63693517
Uh huh. Sure. That's why they work there, because they don't have a choice, walmart is evil, michael moore, michael moore, Fliiiiiiiint! we are the 99% of pot smokers!
So you threw your cell phone away right? Can't have it both ways, child.
>>63693572
No
>>63693539
What would?
>>63693524
>The thread is for the expanse regardless of your lack of attention span and taste.
And that discussion was about Childhood's End, which you barged into with your autism without reading at all.
>I bet you fucking jizzed seeing that ufo block out christ. Could you tip your fedora any harder? Give me a fucking break.
So, you were talking about Childhood's End, you cunt. Also, read a fucking book for once. The book is not at all pro-atheism, or pro anything.
>>63691152
its good?
I read the novels and liked them- very fun. Have my doubts on the show as some of the major plot points have to do with how gravity effects the body growing up making Earthlings/Belters/Martians look different even at a glance as well as how low gravity scenes will look on a syfy show.
Is it worth it for those who read the books?
>>63693580
You're right. No one is ever exploited, the world is perfect and equal. Keep listening to right-wing radio talk hosts.
>>63693615
Autism is a prerequisite of liking childhood's end and the majority of clarke's works.
>So, you were talking about Childhood's End, you cunt. Also, read a fucking book for once. The book is not at all pro-atheism, or pro anything.
>lol the devil comes to earth and he makes everything perfect and this shot isn't symbolic at all what lol christians are dumb i believe in ai god making the new world singularity elon musk lol.
Fucking hell reddit is really turning you people out these days.
>>63693636
I've also read the novels. It seems fun, so far. They've portrayed some of the morphological differences with belters, earthers etc and the special effects are pretty good. It's worth trying.
>>63693645
>>63693547
bookfag here. havent watched syfy since those duneshits back in like 2000. scifi books crush this tv shit. glad to see some good books getting adapted. cant wait for bradley cooper as the shrike from hyperion
>>63693517
China had a population explosion. Suddenly there's a lot more mouths to feed and jobs to fill. Deng opens trade with the West, agrees to provide cheap factory labour for manufacturing and assembly. This gamble propels the Chinese people from feudal illiterate farmers to business minded entrepreneurs and rapidly urbanized city workers. Standard of living increases drastically for everyone. They are constantly having worker's rights disputes and renegotiating contracts. Companies offer attractive salaries, I have Chinese friends who earn 3-5k USD a month as secretaries and internal sales staff for a wide variety of companies. Their cost of living is about 3 times cheaper than the US.
Tell me more about your general ignorance. Things are CONSTANTLY improving for Chinese workers from the lowest factory/assembly hand who is joining a union or collective, arranging better hours and benefits, organising strikes and walkouts, to HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of middle class Chinese who work in cities and have a growing appetite for spending and travel, matched only by their growing income and endless job opportunities.
What is the US solution for low income earners? Endless government benefits as a stop gap. Welfare.
![The.Expanse.S01E01.720p.HDTV.x264-BATV[ettv].mkv_snapshot_12.30_[2015.12.15_20.54.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UXuaY8r.jpg "The.Expanse.S01E01.720p.HDTV.x264-BATV[ettv].mkv_snapshot_12.30_[2015.12.15_20.54.35].jpg")
>>63693636
How many sex scenes are in the first chapter of the book?
Because it seems like they put it through the game of thrones idiot filter.
>>63693671
You shouldn't listen to the news.
>>63693690
>>lol the devil comes to earth and he makes everything perfect and this shot isn't symbolic at all what lol christians are dumb i believe in ai god making the new world singularity elon musk lol.
Once again, you clearly, clearly haven't read the book. He is not the devil, he does not make everything perfect. Humanity is destroyed (or evolves, depending on your viewpoint) , people are fucking horrified.
>>63692921
>DUDE LE ZOMBIEZ IN SPACE XDDD
Literally kill """"""""yourself"""""""
>>63693700
So they keep the whole levels of gravity different on different parts of Ceres, when the ships accelerate to create AG, etc? How do they keep the differences obvious between the humans? makeup?
>>63693724
YOU'RE JUST OPPRESSING THEM.
I HAD TO READ A BOOK ABOUT AN OLD WHITE PERSON AND IT GAVE ME PTSD
I AM A COLLEGE STUDENT MY THOUGHTS ARE SUPREME
>>63693724
So because China is improving, and some of them are well off, no-one is exploited. Flawless logic.
>What is the US solution for low income earners? Endless government benefits as a stop gap. Welfare.
The United States has hardly any welfare at all dumbass. The government barely does the minimum to keep people alive.
>>63693739
Hello there, OP here! I'm going to have to ask you refrain from the 'XD' here. I'm trying to keep a friendly environment. Thanks!
>>63693732
>You shouldn't listen to the news.
There is literally no other way to be informed about current evens than through news agencies
>>63693735
>he's not the devil
>he just looks identical to him
>humanity a shit
>lol you bad humanity we look down on you.
>the name of the book doesn't imply that religions are for children
Trust me, it's not a complicated book.
>>63693784
>The government barely does the minimum to keep people alive.
I think I see your problem.
>>63693732
>How many sex scenes are in the first chapter of the book?
dont remember, but the book does have sex scenes often, and frequently between the main characters. Its not seen as a big deal. The books are pop-scifi, the western equivalent of a LN.
>>63693784
So when are you going to start practicing what you preach and destroy your cell phone? Send us pics or stop tumblring everywhere.
>>63693812
What do events matter to you? You don't vote, you don't have any authority in the world because the evil corporations like monsanto control the world.
So what does it fucking matter, you fucking stupid child?
>>63693812
>he doesn't consult with a professional astrologer
>>63693766
Re the gravity, no they don't change it through different levels of Ceres. The morphological differences aren't shown constantly, it looks like they used some marfan syndrome actors or something and some trick camera work to demonstrate parts of it. They obviously had to make compromises.
>>63693701
>>63693818
>>he's not the devil
>>he just looks identical to him
Yeah, that's the whole fucking point.
>humanity a shit
>lol you bad humanity we look down on you.
Not the message
>the name of the book doesn't imply that religions are for children
The book is barely about religion, why do you continue to bring it back to that? Childhood's End refers to humanity evolving to another plane of existence, which you'd know if you actually had read any of the book.
>>63693843
Ah okay so the source was low brow. At least it's not syfy's fault the show is garbage for fedora wearing delusional space enthusiasts.
You're not going with musk. You're dying here.
>>63693710
I wish I could read
>>63693853
>So when are you going to start practicing what you preach and destroy your cell phone? Send us pics or stop tumblring everywhere.
You can criticise the system without becoming a fucking hermit. Stop thinking in such black and white terms.
>You don't vote, you don't have any authority in the world because the evil corporations like monsanto control the world.
I do vote dumbass, and I said nothing about evil corporations owning the world.
>>63693886
>Yeah, that's the whole fucking point.
Because the point is to shit on christians. Devil imagery is not required of an alien species.
>Not the message
Why is the world destroyed again?
>The book is barely about religion, why do you continue to bring it back to that? Childhood's End refers to humanity evolving to another plane of existence, which you'd know if you actually had read any of the book.
I'm sure reddit would love it.
>>63693889
The guy with the fedora is meant to be a loser.
>>63693929
>You can criticise the system without becoming a fucking hermit. Stop thinking in such black and white terms.
>Buhh i want everyone else to sacrifice for the greater good but not me i'm special.
You piece of shit waste of a human life.
>I do vote dumbass, and I said nothing about evil corporations owning the world.
Who and what did you vote for this year?
>>63693949
that's not how the show portrays him.
>>63693934
>Because the point is to shit on christians. Devil imagery is not required of an alien species.
It's explained that the image of the devil comes from humanities collective consciousness
>Why is the world destroyed again
Because all of humanity has evolved into a new organism that has ascended to another plane of existence.
>I'm sure reddit would love it
So you know nothing about the book, and are talking out of your ass. Got it.
>>63693929
>I do vote dumbass
>>63693934
it's the exact opposite. They are infact devils and destroy/imprison humanity for all eternity.
The Christians were right all along, that's the point of the book- The solutions the aliens provide are a trick, to forcefully evolve humans to prepare to assimilate them. They are like a friendly borg.
The Devil aliens are just messengers/intermediaries/angels to the real threat, which is the Overmind.
>>63693864
thats unfortunate, part of why I was surprised to hear it becoming a tv series
>>63693889
Fedora dude is a burn out. The books are half Noir: in space and half goody-two-shoe Mary sues and stus on a adventure romp. The books are fun, but nothing pushing the literary boundary. The ship explanation and interplanetary soap-opera politics are what make them fun (for me).
Guys, please. The Expanse thread. Not like this...it was never supposed to be like this...
>>63693981
>>Buhh i want everyone else to sacrifice for the greater good but not me i'm special.
What? I said absolutely nothing about sacrificing for a greater good you cunt. All I've said is that people in Third World countries are exploited, which is a fucking fact.
>Who and what did you vote for this year?
Local elections mostly. Not in America.
>>63694004
It really is though. He hits on his ex, she rejects him and says he looks terrible. He drinks alone in his apartment. He takes bribes. He looks unclean and unshaven all the time.
>>63694016
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say they're infact devils. It's kind of played as ambiguous as to whether it's ultimately a good thing.
Why aren't they all floating around in their suits on the spaceship? They is very little gravity in the vacuum of space.
>>63694025
I'm hoping it survives long enough to seeVenus. Thevirus and the conspiracy stuff surrounding thatis the most interesting part to me.
>>63694107
Magnetic boots
>>63694151
But they are able to lay on their backs and shit? They aren't even standing up and they don't float.
i sure hope this lasts like 5 seasons so they get to the part where earth gets rekt, also these rail guns in ep 4 are tiiiiiite
>>63694188
The ships spin constantly I believe, to create artificial gravity.
>>63694196
Now why'd you have to go and say that
>>63694224
No, the ships are accelerating most of the time when they're moving and this causes the crew experiences artificial gravity. It's explained more in the books.
>>63694049
>What? I said absolutely nothing about sacrificing for a greater good you cunt. All I've said is that people in Third World countries are exploited, which is a fucking fact.
If those people aren't exploited then you will have to pay a shitload more for quite a few products. Do you offset this by donating parts of your income to overseas charities? How are you doing your part other than whining at nobody on the internet?
>Local elections mostly. Not in America.
If you can't remember their names then you either didn't do proper research or you're just bullshitting again.
Be the change you want to see in the world. Don't just fucking complain about it and expect someone else to fix it.
>>63694124
Im also excited to seeterraforming space virus and gate and giant mormon ship turned shitty death star. If they can pull it off. How are the ships/cgi/ general design ascetic?
>>63694188
Magnetic backs
>>63694224
You accelerate for the first half of the journey, then decelerate for the second half.
>>63694224
>>63694314
>>63694107
The ships are built like towers/skyscrapers, where the 'floor' is pointing down towards the engine and 'up' is the front of the ship. The ship reaches a state of thrust creating the 'gravity' during long voyages. I dont know how the tv series explains it, but thats from the books. Decelerating/ accelerating are a big deal and the most dangerous part (like landing and lift off in a plane).
>>63694387
Somewhere between europa report and chronicle.
Pretty bad.
>just 12 min into the pilot
>oh shit we dumped the most basic of science fiction plot on the audience
>better kill someone gruesomely
>oh and then a sex scene right after that
>okay now we can talk about space stuff for a bit until the audience falls asleep again.
I've never come to hate a show so quickly.
![The.Expanse.S01E01.720p.HDTV.x264-BATV[ettv].mkv_snapshot_12.18_[2015.12.15_21.20.33].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cWsRdsY.jpg "The.Expanse.S01E01.720p.HDTV.x264-BATV[ettv].mkv_snapshot_12.18_[2015.12.15_21.20.33].jpg")
>>63694461
>>63694387
forgot my image.
>>63694346
>If those people aren't exploited then you will have to pay a shitload more for quite a few products.
I would do this gladly, it's the moral thing.
>Do you offset this by donating parts of your income to overseas charities?
Yes, 10% of my income.
>How are you doing your part other than whining at nobody on the internet?
I work with UNHCR
>Don't just fucking complain about it and expect someone else to fix it.
I am working. Other people also need to put in effort.
>>63694461
No-one was killed off gruesomely. That guy was seen a couple of scenes later. Pay attention.
>>63694461
Dont know, the books are fun I'd read them again. Finish all of them in less than a few nights and see for yourself. Space Noir drunk ex-cop on Ceres was the best part.
watching right now, will report back with my findings
>>63694387
The ships look very good and the show is solid, ignore that autist.
>>63694540
I stopped watching at the sex scene. I already knew everything the show would ever have to offer based on that and the extremely worn out setting.
>hurr colonies hurr fight for independance hurr miner lives matter hurr
SEEN IT. Didn't need sex and violence to enjoy it, either.
Go watch Jason in Space.
>>63694578
Science fiction is the autism genre you fool.
>>63694589
>I stopped watching at the sex scene. I already knew everything the show would ever have to offer based on that and the extremely worn out setting.
It must be wonderful to be such a close minded cunt.
>>63694717
Nobody worth talking to uses the phrase "close minded" seriously.
You're saying i should wait until the squatting man finishes his shit before i judge it?
>>63694589
>hurr colonies hurr fight for independance hurr miner lives matter hurr
But it's not. The Expanse isn't primarily a story about muh 99% in space.
>>63694744
From the looks of it, magical space mcguffins and possibly aliens?
Lay it on me. How stupid does it get? Some people are praising this for being hard sci-fi. Just how space opera does it get?
>>63694743
Not him, but yes
>>63694743
>Nobody worth talking to uses the phrase "close minded" seriously.
I bet you're one of those assholes who spends all day ranting about men's rights
>>63694743
I'm sure you had so many better things to do than spend 30 minutes finishing that episode. Like shitposting in this thread.
>>63694784
It's certainly not hard sci-fi. It's more "space pulp" mixed withreally weird horrifying what the hell alien virus that transforms planets and living organisms what is it doing jesus fuck we're all going to die
>>63694796
Why? would that make me fit into your narrative of life you borrowed from someone on youtube? Would it make it easier for you to argue against, if i was some evil fox news straw bogeyman?
Good fucking god, you make me sick to have liberal leanings.
>>63694820
I don't want to waste my time on drek for people who watch dancing with the stars and wwe wrestling.
>>63694784
it goesfull retard space opera. ayy lmaos. space zombies,wormholes errythang
>>63694882
>>63694841
Phil plait is going to be pissed.
>>63694843
>your narrative of life you borrowed from someone on youtube?
What?
>You make me sick to have liberal leanings
I'm willing to bet you have none
>>63694843
You outed yourself too early, he never said anything about conservative/liberal ideology, while you automatically labeled him as such.
You gave it a good try I must admit with your first sentence, should have kept the second one in your head.
>>63691152
Because it's everything anyone ever needed out of a scifi show and nothing seems ridiculous. I'm in love with this show.
>>63694843
/pol/ out please
>>63694905
You don't have any opinions of your own.
I am voting for bernie sanders.
Fuck off back to your hole.
>>63692677
Everyone on the show is a dick, but for once it's not Mars's fault.
>>63694906
Right wing trolls are so predictable these days.
>>63694978
There's never been a story like this where anyone but earth was at fault. Because business is the devil yadda yadda.
>>63694977
>You don't have any opinions of your own
What on earth are you basing this on?
>I am voting for bernie sanders.
Yeah right
>>63694570
>sound in space
that's it for me, boys
>>63694784
The ship/gravity stuff is pretty hard scifi
then it goes totalspace nano bot ancient alien ghost collective conscious embedded in your brain lol also giant fucking worm hole mystery why are all these planets dead
Its space pulp with hard scifi tones. Its fun.
>>63693934
Arthur C Clarke isn't exactly known for being kind to religions in his books. The whole Rama series basically shits on every religion.
>>63694906
His first post to me ended with
>the ultimate demonstration that you're a right wing lunatic.
He's a kid. He doesn't have any experience with life nor does he have any opinions he made on his own. All he is is a collection of other people's thoughts loosely cobbled together under a hat.
>>63695048
This. It's meant to be a fun pulpy adventure series with a few serious ideas flirted with.
>>63695035
But it was just a sound translator!
>>63695015
>What on earth are you basing this on?
Everything you've said.
>Yeah right
I know, his chances are slim. I might have to vote for hillary just so trump doesn't take it. I'm scared as shit that everyone on the left is just going to sit it out as some sort of retarded protest and then ben carson or trump becomes president and i lose my obamacare.
Cool your jets, micheal, not everyone who disagrees with your limited worldview is your enemy.
>>63695081
>He's a kid. He doesn't have any experience with life nor does he have any opinions he made on his own. All he is is a collection of other people's thoughts loosely cobbled together under a hat.
What are you basing any of this off of?
>>63691173
Yeah, but it's 0SEC dogshit.
>>63695056
What in rama 1 shits on religion? Barely anything even happens in that book.
>>63694990
Wouldn't call them trolls, just annoying when any debate is immediately stifled with buzzwords like "cultural marxist" and "cuck", as
if writing those words grants you some kind of immunity shield for criticism.
I get it happens the other way around in many places (perhaps even in real life, though this is more US phenomenon), but the terms are meaningless on a site like this.
>>63695123
>I know, his chances are slim. I might have to vote for hillary just so trump doesn't take it. I'm scared as shit that everyone on the left is just going to sit it out as some sort of retarded protest and then ben carson or trump becomes president and i lose my obamacare.
In this very thread you were decrying social welfare, now you're pro obamacare? You're not even trying.
>>63695035
Maybe everything emits a radiation that reverberates off the ships' hull and makes a noise or there's a system that feeds an estimation of the noise things might make in an atmosphere into their headphones. Who cares just make something up.
>>63695142
Everything he's said.
He's either a kid or some dumbshit who believes everything cenk uygur tells him. Ya can't get reality through someone else's lens.
>>63695190
You can't get reality ever.
>>63695170
>In this very thread you were decrying social welfare, now you're pro obamacare? You're not even trying.
Never did. You're just incapable of understanding that how thing should be is not how things are. As long as you expect more than the world is capable of, you'll be unhappy and lash out at everyone.
>>63695119
Wait what is this a thing?
>>63695211
Nobody likes phenomenology.
>>63695190
Almost everything you've ever learnt is from someone else mate.
Also, it must be convenient to think that everyone you disagree with only listens to your favourite targets
>make Expanse thread
>90% of it is a number of people discussing their ideals and politics
I didn't ask for this feel
>>63695245
Then I have something in common with it
>>63695272
Well it is a political space opera
>>63695168
cultural c͏͏͏u͏c͏k͏͏old detected
>>63695222
>As long as you expect more than the world is capable of, you'll be unhappy and lash out at everyone.
Must be nice to think that you can never do anything to help people. Makes it easy to do jackshit all the time.
>>63695241
Anythings possible... ;^)
>>63695265
I'm not the one who started in with conservative bogeymen because my opinions were disagreed with.
Even when people told you that china isn't being exploited you or whoever just changed gears to some other social injustice because playing the victim is all that matters.
>>63695307
>I'm not the one who started in with conservative bogeymen because my opinions were disagreed with.
The only people I've ever encountered who don't believe people are exploited in the third world, are far right.
>>63695150
HDTV 720p rip not good enough for your highness? jesus christ.
>>63695298
wew lad.
>>63695307
>Even when people told you that china isn't being exploited you or whoever just changed gears to some other social injustice because playing the victim is all that matters.
China is being exploited, just because some people are well off in China doesn't change that. Also, "people" was you.
>>63695307
>>63695325
Can you guys just go back to your central point about whether The Expanse is a shallow attempt to connect to the audience by showing the working man as the hero and big business as evildoers.
>>63695325
You've probably never met a real conservative in the flesh. You just see them on tv and add it to your narrative of Us Vs. Them that the media wants you to believe.
Liberals can be just as stupid as any conservative. They're the same species. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaxCMsdYwcg
Get a fucking clue man.
>>63695347
I didn't write either big block of text that spelled out basic economics to you.
Everyone gets exploited everywhere. That's life. That you're so shocked by that just belies your lack of experience away from your mother's breast.
>>63695372
The working man isn't shown as a hero though, this guy is criticising a complete straw man, and refusing to accept that any large group of people has ever been victimised by big business.
>>63695425
>Everyone gets exploited everywhere. That's life. That you're so shocked by that just belies your lack of experience away from your mother's breast.
Now you've changed tack. Anyway, once again, this is a fantastic way to uphold the status quo. Durr, nothing can ever change, life is suffering durr.
>>63691173
ep 3 is out too.
>>63695445
Oh well
>>63695445
Sorry i only watched the first 12 minutes of the show and in that time we see fedoraprotagonist arguing with a marxist.
>>63695389
>You've probably never met a real conservative in the flesh. You just see them on tv and add it to your narrative of Us Vs. Them that the media wants you to believe.
There are conservatives everywhere, I have some in my family
>Liberals can be just as stupid as any conservative. They're the same species.
Of course. They just happen to be more likely to be right.
>>63695119
>>63695176
Honestly I can get over it, but it's kind of silly when they do this. It's not even lazy "writing", it's actually more work for no reason.
>>63695289
You forgot marxist!
>>63695307
I don't know which people told what in this thread, but the industrial revolution of China is not any different from that in Britain, poor people were exploited left and right, it's actually a pretty big deal in world history.
The same is happening in China, it might be a necessary step in all industrialized countries, but to claim people don't suffer under the system is naive.
>>63695483
>Now you've changed tack. Anyway, once again, this is a fantastic way to uphold the status quo. Durr, nothing can ever change, life is suffering durr.
Not helping the whole "this guy sounds like a kid" argument.
>>63695510
What does that have to do with anything?
>>63695517
>There are conservatives everywhere, I have some in my family
OH NOW WE'VE FINALLY GOTTEN TO THE CENTER OF THIS MAZE.
You have father issues that you project onto anyone who sounds like him.
Case fucking closed.
>>63695543
There's clearly a "man we working people living in fucking space sure have it bad, maybe we shouldn't have moved to fucking space god why won't someone give me a bailout for my mistakes?" theme to the show. it was in their 10 tons of exposition at the beginning, it sure as shit should be relevant to the overall plot.
>>63695564
>You have father issues that you project onto anyone who sounds like him.
No, they're cousins. My direct family are liberals. You really aren't even trying.
>>63695521
Space noise bothers me too but I guess there's a line somewhere between scientific accuracy and things that aren't boring and sometimes it comes down on one side and sometimes the other.
>>63695598
Trying what? Nobody wants to argue with you about your issues. Just fucking drop the witch hunt.
>>63695596
>man we working people living in fucking space sure have it bad, maybe we shouldn't have moved to fucking space god why won't someone give me a bailout for my mistakes?
People can be forced into tough situations to survive, that doesn't mean they should have all their rights stripped from them. Your lack of empathy is telling.
>>63695611
Thank god for books that don't care about appealing to trump voters.
>>63695627
>Nobody wants to argue with you about your issues.
Except...you literally just crafted a theory about my issues.
>>63695651
Uhh Trump is literally going to win
>>63695632
There are no laws in space. What did they fucking expect? Kindness? Humans only have rights when they earn them. It's not a physical law.
>>63695596
>it sure as shit should be relevant to the overall plot
Not the anon you're replying to, but this ends up being a much more minor plot running through the larger story. It doesn't progress how you might predict from that alone.
>>63695596
Actually I sensed some pride in their being belters, Seems more like a new race of people rather than ex-pats that can return to earth when they want.
>>63695661
You're not an honest person.
>>63695699
Then they're shit at storytelling. If you hang a gun on the wall, you fucking use it.
>>63695689
>there are no laws in space
Anywhere there's people, there's laws or should be. That's kind of how society works. If there aren't any, that's a violation
>Humans only have rights when they earn them.
This justifies literally endless manner of abuse. And anyway, you were shitting on the marxist when he's trying to earn those rights. Should he just lie down and accept anything because his ancestors made a mistake?
>>63695611
I guess people just like space noice, I bet they have screenings of the episodes where they bring it up and see what the audience prefers.
>>63695738
It's not a film, there's room for padding out the backdrop.
>>63695715
What?
>>63695715
No, he's right. You can't have it both ways. You were playing psychologist while acting entirely as if his response was unprovoked
>>63695738
Whoa whoa whoa now, Chekhov. It gets used, but in support of a different story.
>>63695744
>Anywhere there's people, there's laws or should be. That's kind of how society works. If there aren't any, that's a violation
a violation of what? galactic code? fuck's sake, here you go again with your is and ought.
There can't be laws because nobody legally owns it. If someone legally owns it, then they can make whatever rules they choose. There is no oversight.
>This justifies literally endless manner of abuse. And anyway, you were shitting on the marxist when he's trying to earn those rights. Should he just lie down and accept anything because his ancestors made a mistake?
God you just have such an axe to grind.
>>63695158
Rama 1's events caused global war when the religious freaked out about confirmed aliens.
>>63695895
Weird i don't remember that. I remember the long boring trips to different places, the orangutan slaves, and the ending where nothing really happens.
So should I watch this show or what?
>>63695820
>a violation of what? galactic code? fuck's sake, here you go again with your is and ought.
Laws are all made by humans, there is no such things as inherent existing law. You're basically arguing against the very concept of law and society.
Nobody legally owns countries either. That's not how countries work. The rights of the people are what matter in law.
>God you just have such an axe to grind
You made such stupid points, it bears repeating.
>>63695969
Are you busy?
Good Production value.
>>63696115
I'd watch it if I was you, going soley off that single piece of information
>>63696115
Hey, you're not me.
>>63695977
No.
>>63696145
Thank you
