Is this the most cinematic anime?
Fuck off to /a/
and Lain is shit by the way. It's like a retarded Australian kids TV show, right down to the lousy indie theme song
DUDE
CYBERPUNK
LMAO
No anime is cinematic. Time to grow up weeaboo
>cinematic
what is that supposed to mean?
>>63633860
Anime is cinematic by default, and many shows in recent years have gone out of their way to look particularly movie-like.
>>63633863
Direction, editing, cinematography, backgrounds, use of music, and storytelling similar to live action movies.
>>63632697
Haven't seen it but isn't this supposed to be Eva level of visual batshit crazy?
No I would say Planetes is.
>>63634140
I'd certainly say that Planetes is definitely a great piece of sci-fi with the way it shows how even something revered and romanised as space can become tedious and monotonous to the typical 9 till 5 salaryman.
But I wouldn't call it the most cinematic, it is certainly up there though.
Shinsekai Yori
No.
Probably Psych-Pass at this point.
![Serial Experiments Lain 11.mkv_snapshot_05.26_[2015.02.11_15.56.46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VpklAiL.jpg "Serial Experiments Lain 11.mkv_snapshot_05.26_[2015.02.11_15.56.46].jpg")
>>63634125
It's one of the weirdest TV anime ever made. There's one episode where half the running time is a hallucinatory montage of images and flashbacks set to bizarre music.
>>63634140
Planetes suffers from some melodrama and bad humor, and I don't remember it being especially cinematic.
Hibike and Zankyou no Terror are very cinematic (though the latter is not a good show). Tokyo Ghoul has a very cinematic final episode too (not many anime, or TV shows of any kind, have a two minute long unbroken moving handheld shot).
>>63634445
Seriously sempai?
Cinematic anime would probably be Aku no Hana and Princess Tutu.
>>63634377
Loved Shinsekai Yori, but please could you elaborate? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
>>63634488
I'll bump it up on my list then, thanks.
Here's a recommendation in exchange:
>Aozora Shoujo-tai
If you liked Patlabor, you'll enjoy this.
![[Raizel] Dusk Maiden of Amnesia 04 [BD_1080p_Dual_Audio_FLAC]_[D7547F46].mkv_snapshot_14.51_[2014.01.09_21.33.43].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/omtL73u.jpg "[Raizel] Dusk Maiden of Amnesia 04 [BD_1080p_Dual_Audio_FLAC]_[D7547F46].mkv_snapshot_14.51_[2014.01.09_21.33.43].jpg")
>>63634669
Cinematic anime in general is a dime a dozen since anime is mostly cinematic (as opposed to cartoonish or soap opera-like). Some shows are just more cinematic than others.
>>63634727
>Aozora Shoujo-tai
I don't think I've heard of it before but it seems interesting. I'll download it.
>>63634850
As you can see it only has 7 episodes, whilst I won't say it is the most original and lacks in some places (likely to blame on the production limitation) and the almost xenophobia tone in one episode to that episode's antagonist. It is a nice throwback to the 90s.
>>63634377
Story was great but the low production values really showed.
>>63635142
Personally I didn't find the low production value that jarring, though that homocrap at episode 13(?) was extremely off putting even though it did have a reasoned explanation of muh bonobo stress sex.
>>63632697
Texhnolyze is better tbqhwy.
>>63635323
What makes you think I implied there's anything "deep" about it? Why would there be anything deep about it?
PRESENT DAYheh
>>63635415
Don't bother, just report and move on.
Kaiji has some seriously great direction
>>63634488
>though the latter is not a good show
>Hibike is a good show, though
No. Amplify your criticism of Planetes and apply it to that shit.
>>63634377
Only an idiot praises the direction.
>>63635551
Planetes is painfully, inappropriately melodramatic at parts, and the humor doesn't mesh with the rest of the show. Hibike doesn't have those problems.
Ergo Proxy
>>63635654
It definitely is. Hibike was boring tripe, particularly with its initially apathetic protagonist without much personality and her retarded friends getting a lot of screen time, and only served to prove it further by its dramatization of story events to at least make the audience care at all. Hey, that girl who wasn't trying before? She's trying!
>Oh, no, that girl won't be able to play lead
>I challenge you
>You know the Professor, so he was probably bias
>RETRY
>Loses
>Cue crying from fangirl
Anyone who likes this shit shouldn't be taken seriously.
>>63635868
ok kid
>>63634377
was that part supposed be shocking? everything was explained in episode 4 or something when they went on a field trip and captured that exposition creature, dull and gay series overall
I just wanted to mention that not all anime is cinematic.
I recently watched the new Digimon because muh nostalgia, and it was the dullest crap ever, with characters flatter than those found in a cereal box.
Keep those recommendation coming nerds. I'm a sucker for eye candy.
![[uguu~]_AIR_05_(BD-1080p)_[27E1E99B].mkv_snapshot_07.30_[2014.11.17_13.20.08].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qhX5C7J.jpg "[uguu~]_AIR_05_(BD-1080p)_[27E1E99B].mkv_snapshot_07.30_[2014.11.17_13.20.08].jpg")
>>63636116
I don't know about Digimon, but in general anime is shot in a cinematic way, even if it's very basic. if you compare it to American animation you can clearly see the difference, because the latter is based on cartoons rather than cinema.
>>63636107
it also adds nothing to the moral dilemma of the show even though it's framed like some hugely shocking upset
probably seemed like a good idea on paper but didn't work at all in practice, like most the show in general.
When does the narwhal bacon?
>>63635868
>apathetic
From what I recall from the show she was quite literally the opposite at the beginning with (to pardon the pun) stars in her eyes over what is unapologeticly space binmen.
>>63636735
Please don't bring back painful memories.
>>63632697
>ctrl-f
>Monster
>0 results
Cmon TV its like you aren't trying
>>63636390
You're right about that.
Although if we define cinematic as an experience, rather than the kind of shots that they use, then the duller ones wouldn't be cinematic, and those that look so mesmerizing that they practicality suck you in their atmosphere, would be.
>>63636940
>monster
>good
>>63632697
What is the superior 3deep5u anime and why is it Revolutionary Girl Utena?
HEY KID
>>63632697
Are hills really that fucking steep in Japan? Christ.
>>63637122
How do you not know this? Japan is fucked cause it's just one long island with shit loads of hills. It's why they invested so much into trains because building airports was pointless to go from one end to the other as it wasn't economical due to mountains forming air currents and shit.
Besides, not exactly Japan is alone in this
>>63636946
Yes, in that sense cinematic anime is less common.
Random nicely done anime scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DflP5mBsivA
You're thinking of Girls und Panzer OP
>>63637074
>>63637074
>you
>>63632697
Lain is a wonder of pacing. Perfect rhythm.
r8 my anime taste
>>63632697
Not really.
>>63634140
Not bad at all.
>>63634377
Nah, great ideas but poor directing, but it's not really due to lack of skill but rather limited budget. I think it's still a great watch because of its satisfying coherence and storytelling.
>>63634445
back to /a/ with you
>>63635383
Good pick
>>63635541
Sometimes, facial expressions were honestly the best thing about it's art direction
>>63635741
Not bad
>>63638270
>r8 my anime taste
Pretentious.
Yeah it's good anime, but you're trying too hard.
>>63637354
Sooo pretty.
Nuh uh
>>63633863
It's a meme. "Cinematic" is a buzzword people use for films people like but can't articulate what's good about them because the film they're describing is terrible.
>>63638968
I didn't know people even call movies cinematic. That seems a little redundant.
>>63638270
You'd probably love Mononoke, if you haven't watched it already
NGE is the most cinematic anime
Paranoia Agent
>>63635383
This show fucked me up
>>63639730
>show
>>63639627
>NGE is the most cinematic anime
Not by a long shot
>>63638270
Pretty solid list m8 desu senpai. I haven't seen Angel's Egg, Kanashima no Belladonna or Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai but I like the rest.
>>63640932
Looks like penguin drum
What is it?
>>63638374
Not really sure what you mean by this?
>>63639501
I did watch it once, but I didn't really grasp all of it so I'm not comfortable with it. There's a lot of things I like about it but I feel like it'll take one more watch for my thoughts to settle.
>>63641126
I recommend all of them senpai, you may not like them at first but I'm sure there's something to like about them even if you don't feel particularly invested into them.
Great list as well. I watched everything beside LoGH and liked it a lot. Well, I never got into Gintama because its humor is not for me, and I didn't think too much of Working, but the rest would be in my top 30 for sure.
>>63641439
>Not really sure what you mean by this?
It's nothing but "serious" and "deep" and "artistic" anime.
I like shows like Tatami Galaxy and Lain but I also count OreImo and Hidamari Sketch among my favorites.
>>63641405
It is.
>>63641755
>OreImo and Hidamari Sketch among my favorites.
Doesn't mean he has to balance out the "artistic" shit with garbage otherwise he's a try hard. You're actually pretentious for suggesting it. His favorites are generic, though.
Persona 4: The Animation
>>63641845
>with garbage
This is pretentiousness.
>>63641956
Nah, Hidamari is fine. Oreimo is shit.
Putting completely different anime like Tatami and Lain under this "serious" or whatever categories to critique someone is asinine. Flaunting your like of Oreimo in the process is disgusting
>>63642122
But Tatami and Lain are "serious" and "deep" and "artistic," and for someone to have nothing but anime like that in his favorites is pretentiousness. A classic case of "mature anime for mature people like me."
And I didn't "flaunt" anything. I really have no idea what you're talking about.
>>63641845
>His favorites are generic, though.
Guilty... I guess.
Episode 4 was arthouse af. I loved how backgrounds and sounds reflected Shinji in every way. Backgrounds and sound portrayed his state of mind in a great way; you can perfectly understand his doubts, pleasant memories, nostalgic feelings, but also damage, fear, insecurities and emptiness, and I like how it's all escalates the moment he stands in the middle. Man I watched this shit so many times I can exactly pinpoint a time he hears mistao's voice in his head and insecurities escalate.
>>63635421
oh boy here we cringe again
>>63642214
So you're saying that my taste is not grounded enough? It's just the order of appreciation on an arbitrary scale I came up with, if I was doing top 30 there's probably be a bigger diversity, but I think the list as it is represents my taste well enough and gives an insight into what I appreciate...
>>63641755
>tryhard for not having bland slice of life shit in his list
Nigga get the fuck back to /a/.
>>63643009
Tryhard for the reasons I already clearly explained. Go back to /b/.
>>63643100
FLCL is the opposite of serious and mature, that's also on his list. Wouldn't say artistic is an appropriate word for it either. You could argue deep but so what? Any show on a list of favorites should have a decent amount of depth to it.
>>63642214
Define "deep" and "artistic." Tatami is remarkably simpler than Lain, and the show's entire style is different. The list is a Yuasa fest. That's my entire point, why not note that instead of focusing on arbitrary qualifiers. What's so mature and deep about FLCL and Belladonna?
>And I didn't "flaunt" anything
Exaggeration. A joke if you will.
>>63643269
>Define "deep" and "artistic."
You know exactly what I mean. Why are you pretending to be stupid? What are you trying to pull here?
>>63641755
Then that's what he likes in anime
I can't picture anything worse to watch than moeshit, sol, and 8 year old girls doing stupid stuff
>>63643397
>I can't picture anything worse to watch than moeshit, sol, and 8 year old girls doing stupid stuff
It's painfuly obvious you're just regurgitating maymays you picked up somewhere and have never seen a "moeshit" show in your life. What a great way to enjoy anime.
>>63643486
Of course i have, i watched a lot of shit anime to get to the good ones.
>>63632697
I would assume the anime films are more cinematic.
As someone who is completely new to anime and never in my entire life ever felt the need to start watching anime because of the negative connotations that come with it and the "anime audience" but I've recently entered a point in my life where I figured "I might as well start watching because I'm never going to make it in life anyways." , can anyone provide a list or chart of sorts of anime essentials?
I actually started watching Neon Genesis Evangelion because it's literally always brought up on how good it is. I'm on episode 18, I think. I really like it.....I think I like it.
Also, I wouldn't mind watching some of those "cute" animes of like school teens and shit. Like, I think there's this recent one I've hear about that's about some high school girl who turns into a hamster-looking thing? I see pop here and there.
>>63643622
People who have a comprehension of the subject don't use the term moeshit, and they know perfectly well that the characters in shows like Hidamari Sketch are almost always teenagers, not "little girls." Little girls is a meme spouted by people--such as you--who don't know anything about moe.
Feel free to stop pretending any time.
>>63643739
Just Google anime recommendations. It's a lot better than a bunch of people listing random anime.
The hamster anime is Himouto.
>>63643831
Thanks, luv.
>>63643739
Oh boy, wait until you watch End of Evangelion
>>63643831
What's the Twin Peaks of anime?
>>63643486
Not that guy but I have tried watching shows like K-On and I find them unbearable. Moeshit is an easy term for slice of life shows about cute girls, there's really no need to get your panties in a twist over it.
>>63644094
Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni
>>63643739
>I'm on episode 18, I think. I really like it.....I think I like it.
Oh man you are so close to the shit hitting the fan you have N O idea.
>>63644094
I'm not 100% familiar with Twin Peaks, only seen the pilot so far, but... Paranoia Agent?
>>63643739
Don't do it, man.
I've been down your path, gotten to that point where I said "fuck it might as well become a weebshit and watch Slice of Life animu so maybe I can feel some happiness"
Don't do it, it's not worth it family. Stay true to yourself. The path into eternal loneliness is paved in moeshit.watch one-punch man instead
>>63644115
The word is the mark of ignorance, like /g/ raving about "botnets" all the time.
>>63643831
I've watched 800+ anime ( I know, I was weeb once, to hell and back ) and find sol and moe to easily be the worst thing that happened to anime. It's plotless, deviant pandering without any real progression almost always confined within magic of friendshit. Trivial plot-points and characters with maybe a single dimension with generic fucking design. They don't even have to put any fucking effort into that shit because mindless weebs will eat just about any moe shit - just fucking look at /a/ once or twice. Aria and Azmanga Daioh are the only I'd dare recommend... but all that said it's nowhere as bad as fucking harem.
>>63644169
go to bed popo
>>63634125
It has a lot of similar vibes to the last few episodes but is a lot more subtle in its presentation. I'd say it's definitely similar to End of Eva.
>>63633825
/a/ doesn't discuss entry-level material, just surface level blogging about currently airing anime.
A lot of cross-board discussions are way better because the people who don't watch hundreds of hours of similar material are more likely to dig in and read more into what's being discussed. They should still be discouraged, though.
>>63643739
I would be careful with "anime recommendations" from people that you don't trust because they will often be full of edgy garbage aimed at teenagers. Especially "top anime" lists from websites like MAL or whatever the ratings are pretty much dominated by teens.
Pic related might be a little dated by now but it is a chart I've always liked. Though it does have some things I think are overrated that you should be wary of (Black Lagoon, Claymore, Ergo Proxy, Gurren Lagann, Hellsing Ultimate, Steamboy and probably a couple others I haven't seen yet).
I'd also recommend all the movies by Satoshi Kon, they're pretty accessible despite getting pretty surreal and weird at times, overall all his movies range from good to great. Perfect Blue being his best. Tokyo Godfathers is a pretty nice Christmas movie too which is good for this time of the year.
Good luck anon.
>>63644094
No such thing.
>>63644550
>pandering
>generic
>weebs
>muh plot
>muh moe and haremshit
Yeah, there's no way someone spouting this many clueless buzzwords and memes has seen even 80+ anime let alone 800+. Just drop the bullshit and admit you've barely seen any anime and have no real interest in it.
>>63643739
>>63643739
NGE is a terrible starting point and if you see yourself not understanding shit at the end of it just watch it again some time after. Many people diss it as garbage but there's enough content to make your second watch substantially better.
For start I have no idea where to go. There's /a/ wiki somewhere that surely has some entry lvl anime. If you ask me watch Miyazaki movies, then watch some recommended stuff around things you enjoy in movies and tv shows.
>>63644751
Now kindly fuck off.
>>63632697
AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND
>>63644751
>moeshitter apologist
leave
>>63644972
Yes faking an anime list sure is a difficult feat to pull off.
It's so very obvious from your last post that you have no idea what you're talking about and are only spouting buzzwords and memes you heard somewhere. It's the exact same shit I hear all the time from people whose anime experience consists mostly of Cowboy Bebop.
This isn't even the first time I've encountered someone who's faked an anime list to give his anti-anime FUD posts more credibility.
>>63645118
>buzzword-spouting retard
Leave.
Kon and Ghibli (Miyazaki, but also Takahata Yoshifumi Kondo) are the best in movie realm, though Hideaki Anno is also great (his movies and tv). Kazuya Tsurumaki is the guy responsible for directing the eva rebuilds and FLCL so he's definitely in the discussion. In television it's the works Kunihiko Ikuhara, no question.
>>63645173
>buzzword
>spouting
>retard
all buzzwords
just leave you kshitter
>>63645040
HQ Version: https://d.maxfile.ro/zdpuwxbyfc.webm
>>63645130
Since you like cute girl anime so fucking much, why don't you share why you think it can ever be artistic?
>>63645320
So you don't know what buzzwords even are. I see.
>>63645376
You get zero points for reading comprehension.
>>63645240
Eva rebuilds should be avoided at all costs though.
>>63645437
You're the one defending SoL shit and garbage with little girls doing cute things. If you can't even come up with any reasons why they're remotely watchable then you can fuck off to /a/ and sperg out over who best girl is.
>>63645449
see this is where I disagree and feel that, while the first one was a reasonable retread nothing special, the other two rebuilds are actually very interesting in how they repurpose and recontextualize the show and movie that preceded them. I also enjoy how they opened up their color palette more than the original show.
To be fair, NGE is still my favorite part of the entire set, but I don't think they should be discounted and in fact reach moments of really good shit.
>>63645376
I haven't seen 800+ but I have definitely seen 200+ and I agree with everything he's said. Who gives a fuck if he uses buzz phrases? What else is there to describe moe?
>>63645523
Your reading comprehension is so terrible that I don't know how you're even able to read any of the posts here. Or do you just react to key words?
>little girls doing cute things
You are very bad at pretending you've seen more than a handful of anime.
>>63645130
Kay write what you want me to add into my profile bio and I'll link the account.
Seriously this damage control. Can you even argue why I'm wrong beside writing that I have no idea about anime, which I'll now refute?
>>63643831
Please, anon. Do tell what the deep intrinsic meanings of "moe" are.
>>63645582
meant for >>63645437
>>63645584
Not him bro but that's literally what moe is. Stop being a fucking stubborn idiot.
How is this even up for debate?
>>63645582
>Who gives a fuck if he uses buzz phrases?
>pandering
Western myth based on a total misunderstanding of how anything in Japan works, as anyone with close to 1K completed anime would definitely know.
>generic
"I don't like this thing and don't even know why I don't like it, so here's a random words instead that expresses vague disapproval."
>weebs
Otaku is obviously the correct term as any highly experienced viewer would know. It's not even just a semantic error, because otaku and weebs are two completely different things.
>plotfaggotry
The hallmark of the casual anime viewer who is primarily concerned about appearing "patrician" in front of others and is only comfortable with anime insofar as it resembles Western entertainment as much as possible.
>moeshit/haremshit
No experienced viewer is going to be using these terms or complaining about moe and harem shows in this manner.
>>63645596
I don't know why you're still trying to keep up this farce. Obviously I know how anime lists work. You can add whatever anime you want to, it's not like there's some mechanism preventing you from doing that. I could make a list "proving" I've seen a thousand anime if I wanted to.
>Seriously this damage control.
Indeed.
>>63645608
Great reading comprehension. Straight-up 10/10.
>>63645650
That literally is not what moe is. Stop trying to argue about things you know nothing about.
>>63645844
>that entire first reply
Is this pasta?
>>63645902
Do you even know what that is?
>>63645844
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you just trolling?
Obviously noone here is able to understand what the fuck you mean because you're terrible at explaining your viewpoints, so clear yourself up otherwise this is going to be a pointless conversation.
>inb4 you reply with another pointless post
>>63645963
>What the fuck are you talking about? Are you just trolling?
It's completely obvious what I'm talking about. Are you just pretending to be stupid?
>>63645844
whoa, nigger. I saw your post on the first page.
>who don't know anything about moe.
What is "moe" then? Explain what you think "moe" is.
>>63645844
>muh moe justifies my existance
>>63645844
>Western myth based on a total misunderstanding of how anything in Japan works
So I suppose Miyazaki doesn't know anything about anime or japan? And neither do I as a person who was an exchange student there and speaks japanese?
>No experienced viewer is going to be using these terms or complaining about moe and harem shows in this manner.
That's an absolute and not even remotely true.
A lot of people, including myself, refuse to adopt the term otaku because it's a slur and not the retarded prideful means of identification westerners use.
>That literally is not what moe is. Stop trying to argue about things you know nothing about.
>y-y-your wrong! the post
>>63645844
Man I didn't think you'll really go this far but I'm all for it because there's nothing better to do I guess. So you really think that I'm capable of adding 800 anime to a list with coherent rating standard within a minute on a dedicated site a minute apart from when you'd tell me what to write into my bio? I'm also up for a quiz where you ask me about plot points of anime I've added in a past year. Like seriously man can you just take a deep breath, look at what you're writing and think for a second?
>>63645999
>reading comprehension
>reading comprehension
>reading comprehension
Why do you keep replying with this? You're leading me to believe your point is completely misunderstood amongst the replies here and I just want things to be clear so we can move on.
>>63644641
>kino's travels
love that anime
>>63645708
Is better than Lain.
>>63646008
Moe is 1) a feeling of love or affection towards fictional characters (or an imaginary romance with them), 2) a subculture or preoccupation revolving around bishoujo characters, and 3) anime revolving around bishoujo characters (within certain parameters).
>>63646052
Does anyone here have even elementary reading comprehension skills?
>>63646076
>So I suppose Miyazaki doesn't know anything about anime or japan?
Miyazaki is clueless about anime and otaku culture. All he knows how to do is make movies.
>That's an absolute and not even remotely true.
It absolutely is true.
>A lot of people, including myself, refuse to adopt the term otaku because it's a slur and not the retarded prideful means of identification westerners use.
It's not a slur and it's not a Western identification.
>y-y-your wrong! the post
Hur hur.
>>63646088
I know from prior experience that anti-anime people are absolutely batshit insane and nothing can be put past them. Many of them are just outright insane.
>>63646091
>Why do you keep replying with this?
Because people keep replying to me with incoherent or irrelevant posts that have nothing to do with what I said.
>>63632697
>>63643365
You think Perfect Blue is "deep", so what you consider deep at its minimum could actually be shallow. Only an idiot or pretentious asshole would describe FLCL as such.
>>63646256
>Moe is 1) a feeling of love or affection towards fictional characters (or an imaginary romance with them)
That sounds exactly like the people that defend that shit.
>>63646256
>It's not a slur
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Otaku is literally a slur in Japan.
>Miyazaki is clueless about anime and otaku culture.
I hope to god for your sake you are trolling.
>It absolutely is true.
Are you underage? It's literally not absolutely true. You are acting like you are mad because someone took a shit on your front door step. The definition of moe you posted confirmed the colloquial definition of moe. Or are you now going to deny that bishoujo is not mainly cutesy garbage?
>>63646256
>I know from prior experience that anti-anime people are absolutely batshit insane and nothing can be put past them. Many of them are just outright insane.
At what point this I show any form of instanity? Is this some sort of otaku defense mechanism, god you're making me ashamed of liking anime. I hate sol and harem, it has nothing to do with my inexperience or lack of "understanding" of them, I listed the reason why I think they suck and I'm sticking to it because at no point did I feel like anything you said had enough weight to refute it. Like at this point I'm just hoping you're trolling for the sake of it.
>>63646430
>>63646256
>>63645844
PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON EVANGELION WAS MADE
>>63646430
Sorry did not mean to quote you in >>63646668
>>63632697
I really like Lain, but no.
Kon, Myazaki, otomo know what they're doing with the medium and the language of film.
>>63646407
I never said anything about FLCL, and are you pretending my post didn't contain scare quotes or do you just not know what they mean?
>>63646421
It simply is what moe means.
>>63646430
>Otaku is literally a slur in Japan.
Old and busted. It WAS more or less a slur... a long time ago. And even then otaku referred to themselves and each other as otaku. Just like they do today.
>I hope to god for your sake you are trolling.
Knowing how to make anime movies doesn't mean he knows everything about anime let alone otaku culture. That's a completely irrational proposition. Miyazaki doesn't watch anime or hang out on 2chan, and he hasn't even made TV anime since the early or mid-80s.
>Are you underage?
Are you?
>It's literally not absolutely true.
Moeshit is a term used by people who don't know what they're talking about, an an experienced viewer knows there are no bad genres, only bad shows. An experienced viewer also knows how laughably overstated the "threat" of moe is. Right now there are more mecha shows on the air than moe shows.
>The definition of moe you posted confirmed the colloquial definition of moe.
It didn't.
>Or are you now going to deny that bishoujo is not mainly cutesy garbage?
So you don't know what bishoujo means and thought you didn't even need to bother looking it up. A bishoujo character is a pretty girl or young woman. That's all it means. It doesn't prescribe the genre or style of a show.
>>63646668
What are you talking about?
>>63646726
Bishoujo is literally a genre you fucking idiot. Otaku is still a slur. Miyazaki made a statement on merchandise sales which was 100% true. One day you will grow up and feel bad for these posts.
>>63646995
>Bishoujo is literally a genre you fucking idiot.
Bishoujo literally means what I just said it did.
>Otaku is still a slur.
It isn't. You are projecting your own hatred of otaku onto the rest of the world.
>Miyazaki made a statement on merchandise sales which was 100% true.
Cool story.
>One day you will grow up and feel bad for these posts.
I already know more about this subject than you ever will, so drop the act.
>>63647098
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Bishoujo+genre
>I already know more about this subject than you ever will, so drop the act.
Maybe you need to improve your act faggot. If you actually went to Japan and spoke Japanese you would realize no one uses Bishoujo to describe little girls.
I'm watching Bakemonogatari, and I'm really enjoying it, fun characters, great art and enjoyable monologues
Is the first season especially good, or does the show get better?
>>63647098
>It isn't. You are projecting your own hatred of otaku onto the rest of the world.
Or you're retarded or you're just trolling.
The term Otaku was literally coined by japanese news media as slur for anime fans when they used to demonize them in the 80s and 90s.
You're probably a 15yo so it's obvious you don't know that.
>>63647160
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Bishoujo+genre
No. If you have something to say then say it.
>Maybe you need to improve your act faggot.
No, you do.
>If you actually went to Japan and spoke Japanese you would realize no one uses Bishoujo to describe little girls.
At no point did I say that bishoujo is used to describe little girls.
>>63647226
>The term Otaku was literally coined by japanese news media as slur for anime fans when they used to demonize them in the 80s and 90s.
What did I just say:
>Old and busted. It WAS more or less a slur... a long time ago.
>You're probably a 15yo so it's obvious you don't know that.
No, you are.
>>63647196
>haremshit
>>63643739
>episode 18
Good luck with End of Eva
>>63647285
It still is a slur you mong, stop backpedaling and fuck off back to /a/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk
>>63633863
It puts in actual effort to convey things through visuals, which the vast majority of anime fail to do.
>>63647234
>At no point did I say that bishoujo is used to describe little girls.
Are you autistic? It's not used for young woman or pretty girl either. Or are you going to deny saying that too? It's a fucking classification for a trope and a genre.
this whole fucking thread
>>63641845
>It is.
>>63646726
>I never said anything about FLCL
You implied it, just like with Perfect Blue, so no idea why you're singling FLCL out there. Safe to say you're an idiot who can't substantiate his opinions.
Continue acting like you know shit about anime by one-upping people about basic facts. That's your comfort zone.
>>63647299
It's the only good harem anime
>>63647299
>haremshit
Means absolutely nothing seeing as how harem and harem-like shows aren't all the same. Monogatari isn't anything like Nisekoi, which isn't anything like Shinmai Maou, which isn't anything like OniAi.
>>63647349
>It still is a slur you mong
No it isn't. You just want it to be.
>stop backpedaling and fuck off back to /a/.
I don't know if you noticed this, but you're part of this argument too. And seeing as how you brought up /a/ first, and for no reason, maybe you're the one who should go back there.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk
Is this supposed to be some kind of argument?
>>63647372
At no point did I say that bishoujo is used to describe young women or pretty girls either. Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
>It's a fucking classification for a trope and a genre.
You're just trying to run damage control because you used the word without knowing what it means and without checking what it means.
>>63647443
Again, I said nothing about FLCL. And I never singled it out either. I said nothing at all about it. Only you did.
>>63647196
Yeah, Owari and second season is better in my opinion.
Don't let Nisemono ruin it for you though
>>63637578
>>63637568
>Acting like Monster isn't morally simplistic as fuck or doesn't play out like a really mature looking day time soap opera half the time
It really is a childish series, in spite of what it tries to present itself as. Most of its praise comes from it relatively serious, grounded vibe, compared to the random kawaii uguu you get in most anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzlOrEYDHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-QpfLV8dQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5LKs6LlsPQ
Anything by Satoshi Kon
/thread
>>63647469
>And I never singled it out either.
You're a moron. At least gain some self-awareness about your own reading comprehension.
>>63647522
>Owari
Owari is mediocre as fuck. Almost as bad as Hana.
>>63633860
Time to get some taste
>>63637086
And why is Sailor Moon the even better Ikuhara work?
>>63647469
>At no point did I say that bishoujo is used to describe young women or pretty girls either.
>A bishoujo character is a pretty girl or young woman
>You're just trying to run damage control
I can make shit up in my head with no evidence too.
You are just a 500 lbs neckbeard that is crying on the internet because actual anime fans that know more about anime and japan than him. Oh wait, only part of that was in my head. You argue like a child yet maintain some sort of air of superiority. Grow the fuck up.
>>63647537
>of all anime directors this one got cancer
GOD IS DEAD
>>63638270
You might like Ideon, Eva was heavily inspired by it.
>>63632697
>>>/a/
>>>/co/
this is television not weeb shit cartoons faggot
no one gives a fuck if your shitty board doesn't talk about this, fuck off
I hope Hiroshimoot finally makes a board where people can talk about Japanese cartoons.
>>63647623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3auLAWvQL8
>>63647575
>You're a moron. At least gain some self-awareness about your own reading comprehension.
I never said anything about FLCL.
>>63647588
>A bishoujo character is a pretty girl or young woman
>a bishoujo -->CHARACTER<--
Don't tell me you can't tell the diference between characters and real people.
>You are just a 500 lbs neckbeard that is crying on the internet because actual anime fans that know more about anime and japan than him.
There is nobody in this thread who knows as much about the subject as I do. And I'm sorry to hear that you're severely overweight.
>>63647705
>And I'm sorry to hear that you're severely overweight.
Confirmation you don't understand how reading comprehension works. No wonder that's all you can cling to.
>>63647641
>television
Most anime is television.
>weeb
By definition anime cannot be weeb.
>cartoon
Not the same thing as anime.
>>63647745
I comprehended your projection just fine.
>>63647575
Fuck off, Owari has been better than Bake so far.
Hana was fucking unwatchable
Is Paranoia Agent about people just not facing reality and basically being dindus?
>>63647746
to be fair anime is just a word for jap animation
they are really different in terms of audiance and what not, but it's all cartoons
>>63647825
Cartoons and anime are both types of animation, and have nearly nothing to do with each other.
>>63647657
>>63647889
>Madoka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDp5WmdUn5I
>>63647770
Actually you didn't. I implied the 500 lbs thing was made up in my head therefor I could not be projecting in reference to weight. Enjoy the rest of highschool kiddo.
>>63647780
>Owari has been better than Bake so far.
If you like eating shit, maybe. Completely uninspired slop as a whole from the story to the animation. Especially the latter. It's like the style of the franchise is now an accessory for the most part. Don't tell you liked that tedious bullshit with Sodachi?
>>63645844
You really think that guy is going to look up and add almost 1000 anime to some website to fool some faggot on an imageboard?
Fucking Lol.
>>63647746
Anime IS cartoons
Cartoon
-a simple drawing showing the features of its subjects in a humorously exaggerated way, especially a satirical one in a newspaper or magazine.
>>63648008
In his mind he knows more than everyone, so everything disproving this "fact" is a conspiracy against him, including people proving his statements to be false. That's the type of retard he is.
>>63647987
Ok, have fun in high school.
>>63648008
His post made it really clear he understands absolutely nothing about anime. He's like someone claiming to be a black belt in judo without knowing how to tie the belt or knowing what an ukemi is. Therefore, it must follow that his list is made up. There simply is no way that someone who's seen 800+ anime could be so profoundly ignorant of and hostile towards anime.
And I know from past experience that anti-anime people are reeeeeeaaaaally crazy.
>>63648063
Cartoons and anime are both only subsets of animation, and the definition you're citing doesn't even remotely imply that anime and cartoons are the same thing. So I don't know why you're citing it.
>>63648070
So why are you indulging his autism?
>>63647866
Anime and Cartoons are the same medium, m9
>>63644094
In style it's probably paranoia agent. But in influence it literally is still Twin Peaks. That show was a huge success and had a subtle impact on japanese storytelling. Even Zelda games have towns filled with curious weirdos because the creators were fans of Twin Peaks.
>>63648192
By your logic a motorcycle is the same thing as a truck.
>>63648176
Because he's clearly furious or delusional, and I'm sadistic and bored.
>>63646185
>that scene where the girl realizes her father has a camera hidden in her bedroom and masturbates to her undressing
made me feel so fucking dirty, i get anxious thinking of that shit even now.
>>63648170
>His post made it really clear he understands absolutely nothing about anime. He's like someone claiming to be a black belt in judo without knowing how to tie the belt or knowing what an ukemi is. Therefore, it must follow that his list is made up. There simply is no way that someone who's seen 800+ anime could be so profoundly ignorant of and hostile towards anime.
>And I know from past experience that anti-anime people are reeeeeeaaaaally crazy.
Now that's delusional bullshit, the guy wasn't anti-anime in any way. He was anti-moeshitharem which is something every rational person above 20 should be. Like how fucking low do people go to defend a genre where majority of work is centered around self-insert characters and one trait semen demons? Or moe where only focus is cuteness of the girls?
This shit is exactly why /a/ is such a cesspool.
>>63647889
>Steins;Gate, Haibane Renmei, Cowboy Bebop, and The Big O are bad
Greatest anime film ever.
Prove me wrong.
>>63647993
I just told you i liked it more than Bake
Are you the guy that dissed SSY as well?
We just have a huge difference in taste seeing as i absolutely hate shit like Lucky Star which you probably like
>>63647889
I agree with Steins;Gate and Gurren Lagann being shit, but not HR or NHK.
>>63648437
>He was anti-moeshitharem which is something every rational person above 20 should be. Like how fucking low do people go to defend a genre where majority of work is centered around self-insert characters and one trait semen demons? Or moe where only focus is cuteness of the girls?
It's just incredible how you people keep hysterically railing against "moeshit" and "haremshit" when you've never watched those shows and don't know anything about them other than maymays.
>>63648518
Are you really so stupid as to not know the difference between anime and video games? And do you realize this thread was made nearly 12 hours ago?
>>63648226
No it's more like a car made in america is a car and a car made in japan is a car also
>>63648226
>Failing at ven diagrams
By his logic Motorcycles and Trucks are both Motor vehicles, which are a sub category of vehicles in general, which is a part of a larger categorization called means of conveyance.
You don't consider different musical genre's as different media, right?
>>63648587
Anime and cartoons are both animation in the same way that a motorcycle and a truck are both motor vehicles.
>ctrl f Mushishi
>0 results
>>63648578
It's /v/edditors who were laughed out of /a/ for their entry level taste that make these threads. Go back to Reddit.
>>63648679
>It's /v/edditors who were laughed out of /a/ for their entry level taste that make these threads.
/a/ meme with no basis in reality.
>Go back to Reddit.
If you're so interested in Reddit then by all means go back there. Nobody is stopping you.
>>63648556
>Are you the guy that dissed SSY as well?
No.
>Lucky Star which you probably like
No thanks. That's some shit you'd probably watch, though.
Bake and SS are the only good Monogatari and both are inconsistent.
>>63648578
Dude, he's right about Azumanga being pretty much the only 'moeshit' show worth watching.
Full blown, proper, moe, in the sense of characters like Hotaru Tomoe, on the other hand, is anime's greatest gift to mankind, and I'm incredibly disappointed that people have come to use the term to describe moeshit instead.
>>63644550
>Aria and Azmanga Daioh are the only I'd dare recommend
Agreed on Azumanga. I have a soft spot for Ichigo Mashimaro as well though.
>>63648767
>moeshit
Try using a word that has some kind of meaning.
>>63648528
Clamp has brainwashed too many girls...
What kind of autist still enjoys anime past age 15?
>>63648870
What kind of autist still enjoys live action past age 15?
>>63648892
That doesn't make sense, every normal adult enjoys movies but only children and autists enjoy anime
>>63648986
>only children and autists enjoy anime
Incorrect. You are delusional.
>>63648986
>normal adults
cringe
>>63648892
>>63648762
>>63648578
>>63648170
>>63647770
>>63647705
Anon when someone calls you an autist it's not because he's projecting his autism, insecurities, defects, or hatred of anime or making some conspiracy against you.
You're just pretty damn autistic and insecure about things you like.
Grow up.
>>63649066
Grow up, autist.
>>63649128
>>>/Reddit/
>>63649033
Only a woman can enjoy anime past teens, seriously I can't find a good reason for anime to be considered a watchable thing for grown ups
Don't worry, maybe you'll grow out of that phase
>>63649046
>le cringe
>>63649189
Still incorrect. You are delusional.
>>63649198
>>>/Reddit/
>>63649223
I don't get what's ''incorrect''
>>63638448
that movie was so beautiful, but the car scene wtf
Texhnolyze was a better story, had a more interesting soundtrack, was great as a tapestry of factions and clans. The world felt so developed despite only being 22 episodes. However, Serial Experiments: Lain is a much more important series to this day. Not to mention Lain > Ichise
Goes on /a/.
Take it to /a/.
what's the best show of the last ten years and why is it Kaiba?
Fuckin moeshit! I can't believe people ITT are actually defending that shit.
>>63650363
Agreed. There is plenty of mature anime for mature anime lovers such as ourselves.
These are the five best anime of the decade:
The Tale of Princess Kaguya
The Tatami Galaxy
Mushishi Zoku Shou
Ping Pong
Hyouka
If you disagree, you're an utter pleb.
>>63652445
>Hyouka
I'm not curious enough to watch this shit.
