Whelp.
Ep. VII confirmed for shit.
>review embargo
Watch people defend this
>>63566283
What's a review embargo?
>end up with free tickets
>conflicted as fuck about putting an ass in a theater seat for this
It's almost as if they don't want the entire plot spoiled or something
>>63566362
Not allowed to publish a review before the movie comes out
Disney is being autistic about spoilers because they want to hype this up as the biggest movie ever, doomsayers will say it's because they don't want reviews to reveal it as shit before people throw their money at it
>>63566374
>>63566397
>denial
>>63566397
Its fucking obvious Han Solo's daughter is Rey and he dies
>>63566283
doesn't this mean that reviews will be available the day before it comes out in Europe?
at least there will be 24 hours. I mean it's going to get inflated reviews even if its rubbish because of how completely committed Disney is, but usually it's possible to get an idea of what the actual quality is by look at exactly what they choose to praise.
Usually, review embargos are put in place because the studio that made the movie knows it's shitty and doesn't want bad press before the movie comes out
Should this movie be watched in 3D?
I remember the last movie I saw in 3D was Prometheus and it didn't even have zerg coming out of the screen. What's the point of releasing movies from franchises from the 80's if you dont add 80's special effects.
>>63566439
Rey is lukes daughter though
kylo ren is han solo and leia's kid
>>63566425
>fucking retard
Cunts like you ae just mad you can't spam spoilers like a pathetic child, stay mad.
Is there a Disney version of the Happy Merchant?
>>63566362
No one is allowed to post any reviews until disney says.
DUDE CLICKBAIT LMAO
>>63566362
It's like when the soviets put missiles on the newspapers and the americans (disney) get really mad and decide not to buy papers anymore. But they'll still keep guantanamo (SW ads). Then the whole situation devolves into a bay of pigs where the boston frat party decides to down a french submarine full of hogs and the argentinians intervene by invading mariana trench and declaring it their own territory.
It'll be a bloodbath.
>>63566457
Name one film that did this
So what happens if you publish a review?
how come Mad Max got an embargo and manage to get unanimously good reviews?
>>63566362
They refuse to let critics see and review the movie in an effort to shield it from bad reviews.
And 99% of the time it's because the movie IS shit and the studio wants to get as much money as it can before the critics come out with the bad reviews.
>>63566397
>spoilers
>hurting box office success
the top #3 hits of all times are: a film based on a civil war bestseller everyone had already read, a smurf movie based on Pocahontas, and a movie about a ship everyone knew was going to sink.
they don't want spoilers because the plot twists sound really stupid when summarized, like a third Death Star. it's that simple - maybe the movie will make those twists work, maybe not, but they're not going make people want to see the film.
>>63566468
Luke can't love because hes a jedi
Leia has nanomachines but doesn't subscribe to the Jedi shit
>>63566507
low expectations and "feminism"
>>63566496
Name one film which had a review embargo
>>63566470
>triggered denial
Incidentally cocksucker I'll be getting the film before your inbred burger loving self and will plaster this site and everywhere on the internet with spoilers. Enjoy that
>>63566468
their going to be twins that were given to luke to protect but he couldn't and snoke took Ren and luke sent Rey to tatooine 2
>>63566283
I really don't think its gonna be shit, like Diseny wants this to work. They want to milk Star Wars for many, many years to come.
I'm guessing 80%+ on RT and general /tv/ dislike of it.
Most criticism is going to be, that it's really similar the other SW movies in structure.
>>63566397
>>63566478
>>63566485
Oh, thanks
Well I say if your movie's not a noir or other form of mystery, and it can get completly ruined by spoilers, than its a shit movie to begun with.
>>63566374
MUH PLOT!
Good guys defeat bad guy and the twist is that Han Solo dies.
WOOOW
PLS
DONT
SPOIL
>>63566521
Star Wars episode 7
What's your point?
>>63566496
>the shilling is strong with this one
How about almost every modern horror movie, those parody comedies that came out by the boatloads a few years ago, and a good half of all movies that come out as filler in the post-oscar/pre-summer gap?
>>63566397
>Disney is being autistic about spoilers
There had better be a twist in the ballpark of Darth Binks to justify it, because so far the new movie is looking like they're playing it as safe as possible by copying nearly every plot point from New Hope. What's there to spoil, that the third death star blows up?
The star wars video games are pretty good, but I always felt like the movies were just run on nostalgy for babbies first science fiction fans.
>>63566575
NAME one movie that did this
>>63566496
>after a bit of googling
Fantastic Four had a 24 hour embargo similar to TFA
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and Mad Max Fury Road had 3 day embargoes.
later embargoes are generally more of a warning sign.
>>63566397
Like everyone knowing how Titanic ends hurt it at the box office, right?
>>63566607
Was Fury Road even bad though?
>>63566628
Entirely different genre with entirely different expectations
You don't watch star wars while knowing what's going to happen next unless you're a faggot who watched the prequels first
>>63566536
studio execs of Disney were young men when the first Star Wars came out. this might have been a dream for them and blinded them to the issues of making a film that's actually good.
plus the script was written in lel 3 weeks.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT SPOILERS
MOVIES HAVE REVIEW EMBARGOES. THIS IS COMMON PRACTISE.
ITS NOT DONE TO MAKE PEOPLE SEE A SHITTY FILM ITS TO MAKE THE REVIEWS BETTER
OTHERWISE EVERYONE WOULDJUST READ THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME OUT
ITS TO PREVENT THE MOVIE BEING USED TO GENERATE HITS TO someone's SHITTY SITE
HOLY FUCK HOW HARD IS IT TO UNDERSTAND
>>63566587
the general public doesn't even know there is a third death star, and the evidence is that the movie hides it and treats it like a big reveal.
it's possible that they thought this would be a really awesome twist, but discovered when the movie was finished that people react by going "lol ANOTHER Death Star" and shrugging.
>>63566689
hi shill
>>63566628
Nobody knew jack dies. Also winslets boobs was a brofist from Cameron to any male in attendance.
>>63566630
as someone who doesn't give movies automatic credit for being action or using practical effects, it really was a pretty empty experience. just a long chase scene. but I really liked Fincher's GWTDT.
but this is the age of the internet. you could argue a 3 day embargo is completely different to a 1 day embargo.
>>63566709
So they put it on the poster? Genious move Disney.
>>63566762
>general public
>looking at posters
>>63566762
For what it's worth I didn't even notice it was there until someone pointed it out to me
But you're right, surely they're not intending for it to be a super massive twist when they readily put it on common promotional material
>>63566594
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotScreenedForCritics
Scroll down and select "examples" and select "film"
Also:
http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/07/fantastic_four_review_embargo.html
>>63566745
Spectre was also one big chase scene, despite that the movie was quite long. I think they just added so many action scenes they didnt have room left for the story scenes.
>>63566720
>Nobody knew jack dies.
herp derp. they knew he was dead at the start of the movie because Old Rose was clearly not still married to him. they were prepared for a bittersweet ending of some kind.
plus the movie made so much because women saw it 10 times. it didn't rely on twists but on flawless execution and story structure.
this is a pretty common practice, don't see what the big deal is. nothing to see here, move on
I don't want to pay for it but I don't want to miss the memes, we're going to have a camrip stream right?
>>63566283
To be fair bad reviews for blockbusters dont mean a lot.
>>63566689
Shilli vanilli
>>63566689
and why did your company make no pre-screening for critics if it isn't shit?
it's not like any professional critic would have spoiled your shit franchise just to get sued to death.
>>63566805
That and it was released twice, but yeah I agree.
>>63566517
Gone with the wind was the only real movie available for decades, and ran in theaters, for decades. No one knew what avatar was before it came out. No one cared the ship sank in titanic.
>>63566680
>actually good
Well I dont think its going to be good-good. But more "hey that wasn't so bad", good.
Since Hollywood can't make good films anymore.
To much studio control, the MPAA and their shitty ratings system, PC/SJW culture, CGI overuse+underpaid CGI artists so it ends up looking shitty and gay.
Dumb youth eating it all up.
>>63566283
Well either they really don't want to spoil the plot (which is fucking weird for a Star Wars movie) or we got a bomb in our hands boys.
>>63566762
>>63566786
according to one version of the leaks the Resistance have a super weapon called the Sledgehammer. that is probably what's on the poster.
the First Order's new Death Star that can destroy a solar system is disguised as a planet. that's the actual "plot twist". it sounds like a misconceived concept to me and something Disney might have thought would be more effective as a twist than it winds up being.
>>63566831
Not him but "professional critics" are a joke today. All the good ones are dead or retired save Armond.
>>63566847
>at least it wasn't as utterly abysmal as attack of the clones
Confirmed. I'm watching point break instead
>>63566870
>sledgehammer
Should have called it the Space Axe tbqh senpai
>>63566397
Lol, Disney is not autistic about spoilers. JJ is. Disney wanted to put 20 uncut minutes of the fucking movie in the captain EO theater and JJ and others had to bitch at them until they dropped it
>>63566870
>we have reports that more information about their new superweapon are on [planet]. Go to [planet] and find information on where building superweapon!
>whoamygod, dey no build superweapon on planet, superweapon IB PLANEB!!
>superweapon door opens along eqater
>>63566944
>Not Chipmunks 4
Disney did something so masterfull its hard to describe: not only this movie hyped us fans, it also hyped the haters that waste their days scrambling online looking for bad reviews and all kinds of negativity hahhaahhah good jewb.
>>63566990
You mean disney is shilling mercilessly and people can't help but reply?
>>63566374
I don't think that a Star Wars plot warrants this amount of secrecy.
But then again JJ loves this kind of shit. Either that or this movie sucks.
>>63566990
Disney didn't have to try much to hype fans, if anything they've focused more on capturing the normie audience since they know star wars fans will watch it no matter what
>>63567006
Considering all of JJ's movies have sucked...
>>63567006
Do you think they should have revealed that Vader was Luke's father as part of promoting episode 5?
>>63567019
But how many star wars fans are left after the prequels, the special editions, the ewok adventures, the christmas special, etc? These people have been shat on for decades.
>>63566512
You're young if you don't remember The Phantom Menace being dump on p2p day one.
It's a safe move that's all.
If they were really dicks they wouldnt even be a -3 days review. But if they did that the "pro" critics would be mad cause they want their privilege and not be treated like the pleb.
>>63567046
Considering empire only made about half of what star wars did, maybe they shouldn't have built the movie around a reveal that only takes 3 words to spoil?
>>63567046
Well i wasn't around so i don't know how episode 5 was promoted back then.
Was there an embargo too?
>>63567053
So what's one more shitting on? If they were going to give up on the franchise, they would have done so already
Besides, the fact that Lucas isn't working on this movie has given many star wars fans a new hope that it might be good again. /tv/ memeing aside, JJ is a very popular and praised director and the trailers have shown a lot of promise for the movie
HAVE YOU GOOD CONSUMERS GOTTEN YOUR OFFICIAL STAR WARS APPLES YET?
![sprudo_reagdion[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NYq59V9.png "sprudo_reagdion[1].png")
>>63566978
>>63567103
>JJ is a very popular and praised director
How come we only ever got cross-dimensional shitposters and never cross-dimensional porn?
>>63567107
would they let me take those into the theater?
Trailers look horrible. I'll just wait for a torrent.
>>63566990
it's not complicated. all the haters are fans of Star Wars. we want a good movie and our autism is being fired up by a sense that one was probably possible as some point but it is slipped slowly out of the realm of plausibility.
>>63567084
In those days movie trailers basically showed the movie plot point by plot point to an extent
Vader being revealed as Luke's father is generally considered to be one of the biggest and most impacting plot twists in cinematic history
>>63567131
Well, he is.
Not on /tv/, but people just eat whatever JJ shits.
Hell Star Trek Into Darkness has a 87% on Rotten Tomatoes, so even critics love his shit.
>>63567103
You seem to be operating under the assumption the star wars fandom has remained the same size over the decades.
Which is easily proven false.
>>63567154
>Crunching through all the ebonics
You'd be a hero!
>Even now, attendees have no ideas what theater theyll be assigned to.
in soviet america, theater picks you. also since im america theres a good chance youll get shot in a theater, can this be seen as a sort of russian roulette?
>>63567222
I guarantee you people who have ditched star wars in the past will be giving it another chance now that Lucas is gone
>>63567210
>RT
You're either a retard or a shill. RT is basically designed to give "good scores" to shit.
>>63567107
this shit is out of control
>Stormtrooper cutout outside an internet provider place, health fund places with random star wars shit
>PROMOTE PROMOTE PROMOTE
>TV ads: UHHH WHO WANTS THIS ELETRIC SHAVER? SOMETHING SOMETHING STAR WARS EDITION I DUNNO!
>>63567251
I gave it another chance when disney bought it. I took my chance back when they gave it to JJ.
>>63567266
I'm not saying that is a good thing you retard.
I'm just saying that even movie critics like his movies.
>>63566457
I agree that poor reviews are "usually" why this happens but I don't think that's the case here.
It's just a gimmick.
>>63567288
you are just one cynical /tv/ denizen
>>63566283
We Fant4stic Four now.
>>63567278
>star wars footage in advert
>our toothpaste makes sure your teeth are on the light side of the force
>>63567296
You know those small, low-contrast, funny numbers and words under the BIG number? Read those.
>>63566496
Fant4stic
>>63566630
Fury Road kinda bucked the trend.
>>63566630
If people had read it was just a 3 hour long car chase, it definitely would've made less money.
Think about this logically.
Do you really think this makes a difference? Every cinema is sold out anyway. What's an embargo going to do when seats are already full?
>>63567327
I did. The average rating is 7.6.
That's very fucking high for a garbage movie like Into Darkness.
>>63567318
How is it cynical to judge JJ by his track record?
>>63567383
And its a JJ movie. A guy who is HUGE on internet marketing. Where most reviews are from bloggers that have never reviewed another movie before or since.
Why do you make me drag you kicking and screaming to the end of thought processor?
>>63567384
His track record isn't considered bad by someone who isn't a cynical /tv/ denizen
>>63567154
You can only take crab apples into theaters
>>63567322
'you don't know the power of the dark side' black fiat pulls onto screen, 'or the join the light side of the force' white fiat pulls onto screen.
makesmerage.jpg
>>63567453
His box office numbers scream otherwise.
>>63566521
Mad Max the new one. Was sort of shit but people ate it the fuck up
you know how all the members of the republic thought they were on the good side and then unknowingly they were all led astray to become the foundations of the empire?
I've realized the moment Disney bought Star Wars, is almost identical to this scene in pic related
>>63567418
Look you can keep moving the goalposts all you want. People just eat his garbage, it doesn't matter wether they are "bloggers" or "real" critics.
Critics will over this new Star Wars movie for three reasons:
1. it won't be as bad as the prequels
2. will be praised as a progressive movie
3. it will be full of nostalgia
Hell, hardcore fanboys like RLM will give this a pass because it isn't as bad as the prequels.
>>63567588
*will love
>>63567588
>1. it won't be as bad as the prequels
How would you know? Based on the terrible trailers?
>>63567588
>addressing the core of your argument (RT numbers), and claiming it is faulty and manipulated is moving goalposts
ebin
>>63567571
Thy wanted to hide that it was a feminist movie and Mad Max himself was basically a secondary character behind Charlize.
>>63566397
>Disney is being autistic about spoilers
oh anon, keeping dreaming
>>63567648
>Thy wanted to hide that it was a feminist movie
that must have been why they literally talked about it constantly.
>>63566283
For a movie like Episode VII it's somewhat understandable. Still, I give it 50/50 odds of either being bretty good (significantly above ROTJ but still below New Hope) or absolute mediocre shit.
>>63566628
Literally could not have picked a worse example.
>all these mad neckbeards who are desperately clinging to their self righteousness hoping that the embargo is to shield bad reviews and not hide spoilers even though Disney has done as much as they can to be secretive.
Oh god. The ass blast that is about to take place on this board is going to be absolutely glorious. Seriously, it's going to be a new chapter in /tv/ history and the sheer anger will be so tasty and palpable.
>>63567882
there will be hate threads for about a week like mad max and then everyone will forget t.bh.
>>63567882
Professional movie critics don't ruin movies like that.
So nice try. I've never had a movie spoiled by a movie critic.
This is about shielding it from shit reviews whether you wish to believe it or not.
>>63567882
/pol/ will be unbelievably mad when people and critics alike end up liking this movie.
Or they will come up with conspiracy theories like this retard over here >>63567633
I'm in for the shitposting and memes, the final quality of the movie doesn't really matter.
>>63566283
It's STAR WARS.
It doesn't matter if it's good, or bad, as legions of morons will shell out money to see this bullshit and buy the merchandise.
This franchise is a virtual license to print money, and Disney knows it, so they can do whatever the fuck they want and still come out on top.
>>63567960
>the existence of marketing firms is a conspiracy theory
this is just getting sad
>>63567107
Seriously, who advertises on fucking apples?
>>63567969
>It doesn't matter if it's good, or bad
This. The only thing SW ever did right was the special effects. The writing and acting in every single SW movie has been horrible.
>>63567974
Then prove it your conspiracy theory nigger.
Stop beating around the bush.
>>63568049
So a movie made in less than 6 months is going to have amazing special effects?
>>63568049
>The writing and acting in every single SW movie has been horrible
No, it hasn't.
>>63567955
Hand picking critics is a bad idea because it creates angst among the lesser know YouTube and armchair critics. "Waaa I didn't get a screening 4/10 its shit."
>>63567955
Lol ok, chief. Enjoy your delusion for the next few days and try not to kill yourself.
>>63568058
>prove that marketing departments/firms exist
I see you've moved on to shitting all over yourself in hopes people will think you're trolling and stop responding.
>>63566559
How do you pronounce noir?
>>63568097
>No evidence
kek
>>63568089
>the only reason people give bad reviews is beacuse they want to get back at the studio for imagined slights
>embargo reviews
>claim anyone who gives a bad review is angry about the embargo
marketing at it's finest
>>63566648
>don't watch star wars knowings what's going to happen
>from the start of the OT, you knew luke would win
>from the start of TPM, you knew anakin would be vader
kek
>>63568066
Don't know. All I know is the acting and writing is more than likely going to be trash.
>>63568086
Luke in the OT was literally a character from the brady bunch and leia had a dead pan man voice and a blank face.
>>63566362
Disney's navy will sink any ship that attempts to deliver cargo to film critics.
>>63568097
Cmon nigger go to google and give me a name of a marketing firm and create a conspiracy theory around it. I'm waiting.
>>63567207
>>63567084
but, anon, did critics and reviewers give it away before the film?
>>63568109
>>63568165
I love how you're basically stuck trying to prove that marketing as a business doesn't exist. Thus can do nothing but shitpost.
>>63568143
Journey, not destination
>>63566831
>implying no one would leak it
>>63568132
I'm no marketer. In fact I hate critics and think there a bunch of snot nosed babys. This movie could very well suck ass.
In fact the only things about this movie I'm sure WONT suck is the sound design and john Williams.
>>63568179
Did anybody even care about critics in the 80s?
>>63568103
Nwar.
>>63568217
>I hate critics and think there a bunch of snot nosed babys
Did they say something bad about a movie you liked? :(
>>63567571
>Mad Max
>Was sort of shit
lmao
>>63567107
the irony here will be itll take 2 weeks for these bad boys to rot and go sour, it'll only take 2 days for the SW train to derail into a volcano.
>>63568255
No I just think it's a shit tier "profession" for people who couldn't get into college.
>>63568274
yeah what was i thinking, it was afwul
>>63568311
So you're either a shill or someone who's opinions of peolpe hes never met were built by shills.
>>63568350
I've never met a rocket scientist...your argument holds no water.
>>63567747
That was sales pitch. Feminism and other politically correct movements sells. Labelling it 'feminist' means you'll have people praising it all over social media because its just so 'progressive', even when the actual movie itself has fuck all to do with feminism. The setting of Mad Max has been done to death, but in 2015, that shit sells because its 'progressive', even though the biggest irony is that these females couldn't of made it without the help of a man in the first place, which goes to show how little and rather hypocritical these feminists are for parading all over it.It wasn't even a bad film, but Greg Miller knows how to do contemporary sales pitches for a movie that is labelled feminism, but gets away with murdering pregnant women and the damsel in distress trope
>>63568526
go back to /pol/, you conspiracyfag
>>63568419
So when you're backed into a corner, you start spouting utter inanity?
>>63568552
Put meat in a product and label it vegan, chances are that the vegans will still eat and keep up their fucking elitist attitudes.
>>63568579
Better than shouting "shill" all the time like a retarded pupped with a hand up its ass.
I've seen the movie, here's my review:
- The dialogue is shit
- There's a nigger
- not-Zuko becomes a good guy
I rate it 2/10
>>63568629
>anyone who calls shill is [description of shill]
this is some next level shit
>>63566689
Sure, but normally the press screenings are weeks in advance and the embargo ends a week or more before the premiere.
As for spoilers, there are the options of an NDA or similar, saying that major plot twists aren't allowed to be spoilered in early reviews
VII was pretty guud. Very well done in my opinion.
I really enjoyed the part where Rey and Poe are about to share a passionate kiss, but Poe hesitates stating that a true hero shares their woman and lets then ride the bull, whilst pointing to Finn. The following scenes were pure bliss (no spoilers, needs to be seen to be believed)
Now if you excuse me, my wife is about to give herself to some fine African American gentlemen and I intend to watch every second of it.
>>63567363
> t. Market trend expert
>>63566594
>>63566792
BTFO
T
F
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has there ever been a good movie that had a review embargo? I'm honestly curious
>>63568758
see >>63568753
Psycho is probably the only one
>>63566397
>>63566362
>>63566283
review embargo is literally impossible
>>63568799
dumb redditposter
>>63568758
>>63568793
wrong post number, see>>63566792
>>63566283
>tfw it's 2015 and Disney literally controls the media
>>63566501
Mickey Mouse® comes to your house and fucks you in the ass
>>63568799
How? Disney will sue if any professional reviewer breaches it
>>63566792
>tvtropes.org
I hate every single fucking word on this site, but I can't decide what I hate more, the cringey trilby-wearing douches who write huge paragraphs of oh-so-clever cutesy "--GASP, yes, even so and so!--" style mouthshitting garbage, or the asshats who just write the name of a series or character as if that somehow makes a complete thought without any sort of followup.
So you guys are gonna watch it anyway, right?
>>63569020
going to see it christmas eve with my gf
shootings should be over by then
>>63569035
BRAVO USA
R S
A A
V
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>>63569020
of course, I'm not some nazi freak from /pol/
>>63568799
To an extent, I remember when one of the Twlight films had an embargo and At The Movies still called it shit and no one was sued
>>63568943
You're not the only one. Thankfully the site is mostly dead.
>>63569178
review embargos are enforced by having viewers of prerelease screening sign NDAs that enforce penalties when broken.
So if someone saw the movie, didn't sign, and shat on it, they can't be sued.
>>63568943
its useful in helping the common man understand the bulding blocks of story telling. worst things about it are usually the blatant inaccuracies/personal interpretations of things,shit like "x as backstory averted beacuse it was never brought up in the story" and that capeshit stuff written from a first person pov
>>63569020
in few months when its out on dvd, if I feel like it I will watch it but by then I expect to know every plot point from spoilers
>>63569311
It entirely depends what the NDA actually says, if it only precludes plot related spoiler you can still call it a total piece of shit
>>63569311
or if they sign but post an anonymous review
>>63569357
Boilerplate NDAs cover everything and were most likely revised when the twilight reviewer mentioned earlier found a way around it.
>>63566283
They just want all of the great reviews to come out at the exact same time.
>>63569421
As far as I recall that Twilight review was embargoed because of plot related bullshit (apparently the bookfags didn't count?), I think it was for the first part of the unnecessary 2 parter movie
>>63566397
>doomsayers
It's logic. You have a movie that people are going to watch by default, the only way is down by allowing reviews
>>63566559
>if your movie only partly depends on mystery, it can be thrown away
Nice one
>>63569559
It's cynical logic. There's more than one reason a film can have a review embargo. >>63566689 offers another logical reason for an embargo that doesn't require the film to be shit
so are we getting Sheev or not?
I am not really fussed about this after they decided to snub Emma Stone but looking forward to more sheev and the RLM review
>>63569675
Why would we be getting Sheev? He's dead and staying dead. Snoke is the new hotness
>>63566507
Becaus doesn't mean shit, but pol is fantasizing about this movie failin because they're triggered by a black man
>>63569609
To be fair, caps-san post just means they're doing the embargo to ensure no one actually reads a review, and just goes to an aggregator site for a number. Which will obviously be manipulated by hundreds of single review blogs that came into existence within the week.
>>63569675
Sheev has been replaced by totally not Sheev Snoke, much like Jakku is absolutely not Tatooine even if it looks exactly the fucking same. JJ is a fucking hack fraud with not one original idea in his head
>>63569700
I live in hope brother and the only thing that gives me that hope is Sheev being the best thing of the previous movies,fuck he even made the prequls entertaining.
I am not even mad about the pear shaped nigger as i think he will be comic relief more than a real lead.
>>63569759
>JJ is a fucking hack fraud
Is he a GANGSTER hack fraud, though?
>>63569781
Well he seems to hang with the urban crow so I suppose he is
>>63569805
Does he blaspheme the timecube? This is important.
Review embargoes aren't knew you fucking retards.
>>63569759
he is the Dara O'brien of directing so I see what you mean but just lets hope he uses the best of the EU in a good way.
>>63569715
The main point being there's multiple reasons films have review embargo and to assume the movie is shit because of the embargo is frankly just trying to validate a predetermined opinion that the movie will be shit
>>63569863
All the reasons for a review embargo are marketing related. The more marketing tricks anything pulls, the more it looks like they're just polishing a turd.
>>63569759
where did everything go so wrong for sheev?
so after order 66 the empire would have at least a few hundred lightsabres just lying around right?
so why the fuck is Kylo Ren seeking them across the galaxy...I did like the noise the new light cross fusion exhaust blade makes though.
>>63566283
>/tv/ goes to the theater
https://youtu.be/BF3ond6OWDA?t=2m56s
>>63569759
Plus a new death star
AND a new Han (who's also force-sensitive) to replace soon-dead Han
AND a new Luke (who's also force-sensitive) to replace soon-dead Luke
AND a new Yoda
>>63569941
Clones didn't pick them up to keep out in the field, since most of them were in battle at the time. We don't know what happened to the ones in the Temple, though.
First Order isn't the Empire itself. They don't have access to everything the Empire in the Core Worlds have.
>>63569941
the whole "plot revolves around luke's lightsaber" thing hasn't been confirmed. In fact its believed that BB8 is carrying an important message and not luke's saber. However they do acquire Luke's saber somehowRey uses it. BB8 probably has information about the sunsucker or maybe luke's location.
>>63569887
>The more marketing tricks anything pulls, the more it looks like they're just polishing a turd.
How do you draw that conclusion? How is it not more logical they're just trying to maintain control of the hype to ensure the most money earned?
It's a marketing agenda, sure, but that in no way confirms the notion that the movie is bad, just that disney naturally want to be able to control public perception of the movie up until the public sees it without uncontrollable variables like third party reviewers
>>63570002
>AND a new Han (who's also force-sensitive) to replace soon-dead Han
Finn isn't force sensitive. Rey is going to end up with her grandfather's lightsaber, which is one of the big "keep it secret" things with toys and the plot, so it's more likely that she is going to be the 'Jedi.'
>>63570002
Sure the prequels are total dogshit, but at least Lucas tried something interesting, this movie is literally painting TIE fighters white and pretending it's new. Fuck JJ
>>63570038
Good products speak for themselves.
Bad products are marketed to hell and back.
>>63570002
I want a new starwars not more fucking pottery ...FUCK
>>63569119
>/pol/ is all nazis
When will this meme end? You are aware it's one of the most ethnically diverse boards on this site, right?
>>63570106
the only interesting thing the prequels tried was to establish the formation of the empire as a conversion from an existent power structure, rather than just a third party coming from nowhere.
The problem is he managed to make that boring, due to his complete lack of talent or ability.
>>63570106
They are also two-seaters with rear-guns, anon. Totally new and exciting :^)
Ecoute bobby j'en ai un peu marre de kansas city
>>63570029
why? was there anything special about the one Luke lost after the reveal with Darth Vader apart from it falling so far? it would be smashed to bits or at the bottom of a very deep ocean which would also ruin it.
>>63570110
Again, this is a cynical generalisation
Star Wars is one of the biggest franchises in the world and Disney want to ensure that they earn as much money as possible from it. That is a perfectly reasonable reason (from a business perepective) to both market the shit out of it so as many people know about it as possible and also control the public opinion of the film as much as possible by retaining a review embargo up until it's released in cinemas. It's a perfectly valid marketing strategy that in no way confirms the movie will be bad.
J'en ai ras le bol de ton système de pensee
>>63570137
I won't disagree, I'd still say that's more interesting than Death Star 3.0 meme flick cash grab
>>63570158
When a N64 game has more interesting ships, you know it's going to be shit
>>63566362
dumb cartoon poster
>>63566283
>implying this generation of "critics" would give it a bad review anyway.
>>63566283
it's understandable because retarded reviewer at washington post literally spoiled terminator genisys
>>63570106
Well REPORTEDLY (emphasize that it's rumor) the story is a Final Fantasy video game story where they're visting ancient temples across different planets (three of them), quesing for pieces to make an ultimate death star functional, and each of the three temples is guarded by a boss either the rebels (who are still apparently rebels and not the victors in charge) and the empire gotta deal with.
This new death star is hidden inside the ice planet, the empire wins the race, Han dies, and movie ends
So it's new-ish if you've never played an RPG
>>63570219
>All the actual cinemaphiles are dead or retired
>Movie quality is now decided by e-celebs and hired shills
>>63570253
>This new death star is hidden inside the ice planet
that sounds really fucking dumb but if we get a wampa boss fight I am down with that.
what will the bosses be anyway?
Rancorr is likely I guess but the rest will be clones I guess.
>>63570253
Somehow this is even worse, if they're going to do RPG knock off shit they might as well just make a KOTOR movie, it'd certainly be slightly more interesting than this shit
>>63570360
>clones
But anon, there's only one Clone confirmed alive during TFA.
>>63570356
>it's the 'people in showbusiness are jewish' shitposter
>>63566283
so the embargo ends 45 minutes before my screening
cool
>>63566512
>movie IS shit
>star wars
all movies are shit. they don't care about it
>>63570181
More likely whats happening here is "in for a penny, in for a pound." They've already sunk 4 billion into it, so they figure another billion in marketing will help.
>>63570181
>marketing
>valid
So you're a marketer.
>>63566908
> All the good ones are dead or retired save Armond.
It's a shame we won't get to see John Simon review this one.
>>63570528
"Empire" is good and one of the best sci-fi movies ever made.
And that's the problem. Everyone expects another Empire when they keep getting shovelled shit that somehow makes the Christmas special seem watchable.
If SW fans would aquire the gift that Marvel capeshit fans have with being able to "turn off their brains" then maybe they'd enjoy the other SW movies more.
But who wants to be that retarded?
>>63570181
>control the public opinion
OY VEEYYYY
>>63570657
Empire made around half of what star wars did.
>>63570657
>somehow makes the Christmas special seem watchable
Nothing can do that desu, the only good shit in that is the bar song
>>63566397
>Not allowed to publish a review before the movie comes out
No it isn't specifically before the movies comes out,but before a certain date.
It's evil when the date is after the release, but good if the embargo is before the release.
That way everyone who can write a review for it can put it out at the same time.
No one is rushing it.
>>63570731
The Bayformers movies broke a billion, as did Tim Burton's Alice as well as the last Pirates movie and the fuck-awful Avengers movies
Money doesn't equal quality.
>>63570744
>That way everyone who can write a review for it can put it out at the same time.
So all the reviews can be ignored equally and people will just go to aggregator sites to get an inflated number, indicating the quality of the movie?
how is that not a cynical marketing tactic designed to manipulate expectations?
>>63570798
>So all the reviews can be ignored equally and people will just go to aggregator sites to get an inflated number, indicating the quality of the movie?
Better than some schmuck getting a lot of hits just because he was first.
>>63570763
It does indicate how many people wanted to see it, though. Implying the success of star wars was entirely novelty, and, for most, the novelty had worn off by the time the credits rolled on episode 4.
>>63570798
No one outside of /tv/ and reddit, etc actually looks at shit before they see it man. The majority of the general public don't care about reviews and will just see whatever seems socially acceptable or what their bf/gf drags them to see. Otherwise Happy Madison would have gone broke a decade ago
>>63570845
>better than having people read accurate reviews
:^)
>>63570864
>no one pays attention to marketing before they see it
we've gone beyond the pale, into a land of pure unconstructed thoughtspace.
>>63570845
I really don't understand the whole idea,sure I will give a movie a watch if a friend says it is half decent but why on earth do people watch reviews before a movie?
>>63570902
>Reviews
>Marketing
They might be nearly the exact same thing now, but I'm pretty sure the TV spots have done the majority of the job for Mr and Mrs Pleb who only watch the hot topic hyped up bullshit at the local cinema
>>63570879
But they don't read the accurate reviews if you don't have any embargo.
Then it is first come first serve.
Regardless of quality.
You idiot. Kill yourself.
>>63568753
Fucker
Just NAME one movie that did this.
>>63570953
>but why on earth do people watch reviews before a movie?
To know if it is good and worth your money, but you know what so why are you really asking?
Maybe your friend read a review, or he heard it was good from someone who read a review. Or the person next to you did.
>>63566472
Ye its called Disney
