Why exactly is this cure for insomnia so acclaimed?
>sixbillion jews
If you don't praise it you're called anti-semitic and the industry is run by Jews and so would be career suicide.
Because it's an oral history of one of the most heinous acts of modern history.
>>63536549
>take a sensitive topic (Holocaust)
>interview bunch of survivors, legitimate or not
>make it as long as possible, which implies it's legitimately the most researched documentary about the greatest tragedy of mankind
>???
>Profit
>>63536633
It's not "history" if it didn't happen.
>>63536665
>>>/pol/
>inb4 jew
why are there so many holocaust deniers on 4chan?
>>63536665
The quad Gods have forsaken you
>>63536688
>You'd need to be part of a meme board in order to require evidence before blindly believing something
Show me one shred of proof the holocaust happened. You can't. If you believe in the holocaust you may as well be believing in God.
>>63536709
because they think it's edgy and try to fit in with le hardcore anonymous nazis
>>63536665
Are you saying the Nazis were so incompetent that they couldn't even exterminate a few million Jews?
>>63536709
Because the high level 4chan boards attract those who are highly intelligent and unshackled from the memes of political correctness.
Why are the six million Jews more important than the hundreds of millions of other people who got genocided?
>>63536709
>little to no evidence
>ridiculous claims like masturbation machines, trained killer bears and soap made out of humans
>not allowed question this is anyway
>>63536729
There was clearly a plan to kill all the jews by nazis. While the numbers probably were blown out of proportions it doesn't change the fact that it did happen.
>>63536765
Yeah, and now you're shackled to the memes of political incorrectness.
>>63536773
>Why are the six million Jews more important
What tells you they're important? The media. Who owns the media? The Jew.
>>63536759
Why would the Nazis have bothered rounding up 6 million Jews from all over Europe if they just wanted to kill them all ?
>>63536779
>little to no evidence
lel
>not allowed question this is anyway
But you're questioning it right now?
>>63536773
We care more when something is closer to us.
Which is why the Paris attacks drew such a huge response but isis killing people everyday in the middle east draws nothing.
>>63536790
Nice try.
I had memes, not now I'm free. There are no memes on me.
>>63536779
>some ridiculous claims are made by people trying to get money and fame from a horrible event
>hurr, holocaust is a lie
>implying World War II happened
>>63536822
You were a simpleton then and you're a simpleton now.
>>63536819
>lel
offer me some, then. Something that would stand up in a court of law
>questioning it now
anonymously, on the internet. Questioning it in my country is illegal
>>63536819
>eyewitness accounts from buttmad juden
>evidence
>>63536826
>caught lying
>it's all true
and hurr durr yourself off to
>>>/r/eddit
with their shitty meme speak
aw man, this board is just absolute shit now, I mean just absolute unadulterated shite.
Can we just change the title to /pol2/ electric boogaloo?
Holcaust discussion is a good way to weed out those who are "reddit" in ideology. If you think the holocaust happened you should be discussing cinema on r/movies instead. It's as simple as that.
>>63536904
You seem to be awfully familiar with reddit memes :^)
>>63536951
>types the redditor, a bead of sweat running down his face
>>63536946
>>>/r/eddit will be more to your taste, friend. /pol/ is more welcome here then you spineless wastes of space
>>63536949
>If you think the holocaust happened..
YOU don't have to think anything. It happened irrespective to what your useless mind's thinking.
>>63536946
This would be /pol3/
/int/ is /pol2/
It's an interesting and important document. Doesn't make much of a film though.
>>63537046
>>63536881
well why do you think they're butthurt?
>>63536865
>offer me some, then. Something that would stand up in a court of law
do you not know how to use the internet? you have all this information at your fingertips, come on.
>anonymously, on the internet. Questioning it in my country is illegal
it is fucked up that questioning it is illegal in some countries, but being that you're a nazi sympathizer you really shouldn't have a problem with censorship.
>>63536773
>hundreds of millions of other people who got genocided?
Because it happened in the heart of Europe by a modern western nation?
25
CMS
OF
WOOD
UP
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ASS
>>63537089
So your evidence is nothing?
Every aspect of history can be questioned. Historical revisionism is a massive field. Only ONE event isn't allowed to be reviewed. Not believing in the Holocaust doesn't make one a Nazi sympathizer. I'm a European and the Nazi's were no friend to my people
>>63536549
BECAUSE OF THE SIX BILLION, GOY. DONT YOU UNDASTYAND! OY VEY!
daily reminder without jews there wouldn't be hollywood or pretty actresses and no /tv/
is that what you want, /tv/ ?
They should remake this
>treblinka
TREBLINKA
>nazi make the holocaust
>whole apparel to hide evidence from it
>"the holocaust didnt happen!"
w e w
Okay, just to play "devils advocate" here. To the people that actually believe that holocaust didn't happen. What exactly were the Jews gathered up for during WWII ? A nice friendly tea party ?
>>63537158
Every single piece of history can be revised but there's great evidence that the Holocaust existed.
It's like denying Spain wasn't dominated by the moors by the Medieval Era or that Attila actually existed. Denying the actual event is a proof of some horrendous kind of delusion, but there are always some tweaks as of who, where, when and why.
>>63537276
Why did the Americans round up the Japanese?
Protip: It's the same answer
>>63537287
>there's great evidence that the Holocaust existed.
You still haven't presented a even a shred of legitimate evidence and no one else in the last 70 years has either. You only believe it because society has conditioned you into accepting it at face value.
>>63536549
>>63536549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn1oHdUvJwM
1:05
someone explain the chimney shadows? and why the guards didn't all die from the gas?
>>63537287
>great evidence
Where?
>>63537158
>So your evidence is nothing?
again, do you not know how to use the internet? I'm not running a convince-a-holocaust-denier charity here.
>only ONE event isn't allowed to be reviewed
it is in most places though. again, it's silly that it's difficult to do it in Germany, for example, but I can also understand why they put those laws there in the first place.
>>63536936
It's a free house, Jim!
>>63537190
I just want a qt big boobed Jewish gf ;_;
>>63537397
read Goebbels' diary.
>>63537415
Desperately trying to act like there's so much evidence is embarrassing. Present something or fuck off you condesending prick
>>63537397
In every book by Joachim Fest, Jörg Barberowski and Michael Wildt. You might be unfamiliar with books though.
I want /pol/io to leave
>>63537415
>it is in most places though. again, it's silly that it's difficult to do it in Germany, for example, but I can also understand why they put those laws there in the first place.
German here. And a history student. You can totally review here. I would even say there are more works on the Holocaust here than in every other country in the world incl. Israel.
>inb4 cockzogbuzzword
>>63537554
>>63537554
Ahh, let them in peace, I bet they don't even know what the Nuremberg trials are.
>>63537533
The diary that only talks about deportation and expulsion? Great evidence there mate
>>63537625
A sham kangaroo court where not one Allied Nation was tried. This is with Dresden bombings as well as the fucking Soviet Union being involved
why were there no Nazi holocaust deniers?
>>63537591
>mentions sources A, B, C
>gets counter-meme'd about D
>>63537554
The fucking delusion. Second hand stories are not evidence.
>>63537625
>he thinks the nutemberg trials weren't show trials
>and then tries to act intelligent about it
>>63537708
just calling it a ''sham kangaroo court'' doesn't invalidate the trial.
![1430849514044-0[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/sosJUoQ.png "1430849514044-0[1].png")
Cremation science turned out to be enough evidence for me. The holocaust as we know it is Soviet era propaganda.
>>63537095
Why are the millions of Jews systematically killed by Nazi Germany more important than the milllions of Romani, homosexuals, union members and clergymen systematically killed by Nazi Germany?
>>63537649
well no, he talks about their ''destruction'' and how there mustn't be any ''sentimentalism'' about cleaning up Europe of them.
>>63537757
"I have heard evidence and read documentary proofs to the effect that the accused persons were beaten up, maltreated and physically tortured by methods which could only be conceived in sick brains. They were subjected to mock trials and pretended executions, they were told their families would be deprived of their ration cards. All these things were carried out with the approval of the Public Prosecutor in order to secure the psychological atmosphere necessary for the extortion of the required confessions. If the United States lets such acts committed by a few people go unpunished, then the whole world can rightly criticize us severely and forever doubt the correctness of our motives and our moral integrity."
US Senator McCarthy on the Nuremberg Trials
>>63537757
no the fact only enemies of the winners were tried does though
>>63537757
Just forcing people to believe in something without questioning it, so much that it's illegal in other countries, is cultist brainwashing. It has less real evidence than most other history I've read.
Even the 6 million figure was pulled out the ass by "The AMERICAN Jewish Committee" in conjunction with the World Almanac. It's just Zionist horseshit.
Plenty of people did die during the war, especially at the end.
>>63537923
?
well who else did you expect to be tried? it was about Nazi war crimes, so yes the Nazis were tried.
>>63537861
There isn't one mention of killing Jews in his diary. He talks about getting rid of them through deportation and destroying European Jewry through expulsion. Do you honestly think if it were written down in black and white the Jews were to be Holocausted Hollywood wouldn't have memed it into everyone's minds?
>>63537941
I've always been inclined to believe the Jews were interred as enemies of the state just like the Japanese were in the US, and if World War II had totally shit the bed for the US we would have done the same thing to our prisoners.
so all the /pol/yps are saying that:
the incredible numbers of witness testimonies backed up with evidence such as tattoos, physical locations and facilities, photographs and footage, court proceedings, extensive records, confessions, etc. are all part of a vast coordinated plot perpetrated by a mysterious global shadow government representing a maligned racial minority merely to establish some kind of moral superiority.
>>63537974
That's why it's a kangaroo court, ya dingus. If it was fair, all war crimes would have been tried no matter what nation you were from
>in the library
>see a copy of shoah
>move it to the fiction software
>60 year old jewish woman catches me
>OY VEY MY PARENTS DIED IN THE HOLO-
>kick her in the fucking cunt
>run off
I never got caught
>>63538044
>witness testimony
such as killer bears and fapping machines
>evidence
present some then? You've been asked enough
>>63536765
>memes of political correctness.
I know that's not an inaccurate assessment, but that flippant wording makes me want to jump off a bridge right now.
>>63538044
Jews aren't a race though, fucking racist cunt. Khazars are European
>durr reddit (read: most of the world and not an internet messageboard) believes the Holocaust happened!
>hurr this means I HAVE TO TAKE THE OPPOSING VIEWPOINT AND COMPLETELY DENY THAT THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED
Holy shit, could you faggots be any dumber?
>no one actually discussing the movie
Welcome to /tv/
>>63537983
what does ''destroying European Jewry through expulsion'' mean to you? It's like saying ''We are going to kill them through deportation.''
>>63538150
>durr
>hurr
Why hello redditor
>>63538150
Supply lines were cut, POWs were the first to go. There was no plan to gas all jews. Of course, looking at the last 70 years and Israel specifically, it would've been a good idea
>>63538100
>fiction software
>>63537861
Yet no actual talk relating to the act of killing millions of Jews, not to mention every other group.
>Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove . . . it has become part of our inherited knowledge.
That was said by a College Professor in an article unrelated to Holocaust denial.
http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2009/12/27/a_case_for_letting_nature_take_back_auschwitz.html
I remember being amazed when I realized how little actual evidence there is.
A lot of it is lies of omission. They'll show you a room and say it was a gas chamber and edit out the side of the room with a large glass window, or ignore the wooden doors. I was watching this documentary made my Hitchcock after the war and they are showing piles of starved corpses and blaming their deaths on the terrible Nazis. Then in another shot we see Jewish prisoners bathing for the first time in weeks. These prisoners however are well fed and even a bit chubby. Could it be perhaps that it was typhus that killed the others? How else can you explain the disparity in health and wait? In fact, they even show that some of the liberated Jews are still dying in Allied custody because they are sick with typhus.
Once you stop asking if the Holocaust could have happened and instead look for evidence that it actually DID, you find their just isn't anything there.
>>63538044
>witness testimonies
I love those.
>>63538199
???
It's obvious what he means if he fucks them all out of Europe then their Jewish way of fucking up Europe is destroyed
If the holocaust still happened then why are there still jews? Can't explain that.
>>63538085
are you literally retarded? it was specifically about German war crimes.
>this is a sham trial! i mean, why are we trying this specific person here who has been charged with murder? why aren't we trying someone else instead?
>>63537591
None of the authors is Jewish though and JB is even right wing. Try harder.
>>63538290
And where did Israel get all their jews from? Checkmate Hebrews
(not counting the Aryan babies they stole to improve their Oriental genetics)
>>63538106
>some people lie about the holocaust or exaggerate it
>durr everyone lied about it
>>63538330
Where was the trial for British and Russian war crimes?
Oh right, didn't happen. It's ok you can admit the trial was a sham and the holocaust still happened, it's not either/or.
>>63538262
i'm saying it's a nonsensical sentence that goes against the point you were making. if you are planning on ''destroying'' someone, then that's what you're doing. what else do you think he meant by ''destruction''?
>>63538383
We've already had this argument, redditor. In case your child mind forgot
>caught telling lies
>i-it's all still true!
Typing hurr durr you fucking infant
I still haven't received a single piece of evidence that Abraham Lincoln actually existed.
>>63538253
Truly, I think it is the hurtling, miscreant Jewish mind that imagines and presumes the worst of humanity and the best of sibling monsters; he is the fosterer of unbridled division and the ultimate misanthrope.
>>63538443
Destroying the ability of European Jewry to stay in Europe. What do you think he's saying anon, because your interpretation isn't used or favoured by anyone. No-one sources the diary as evidence of the Holocaust.
>>63538458
>2015
>believing in the emancipating Jew
Good goy
>>63538253
>>63538472
Read:
http://hampshirehigh.com/exchange2012/docs/BROWNING-Ordinary%20Men.%20Reserve%20Police%20Battalion%20101%20and%20the%20Final%20Solution%20in%20Poland%20%281992%29.pdf
>>63538383
Its not even just that people lie, its testimony that is in complete opposition of the Holocaust narrative.
Things like soccer matches and orchestral performances.
>>63538458
>believing the Middle Ages were real
good goy
>>63538458
Didn't take long. Now you - show me evidence the Holocaust happened
>>63538385
>Where was the trial for British and Russian war crimes?
well I mean I agree with you (especially regarding Russia), but what does this have to do with the topic at hand? we're talking about the Nuremberg trials right now, which very specifically were about German war crimes, so naturally they wouldn't be about someone else's war crimes.
>mfw I found out that there is no written order by Hitler to carry out any sort of mass genocide
>ironic racism turned into fullblown Holocaust denial
4chan is finished.
>>63538503
You do realize how huge the occupied territories+Germany where right? Babi Yar and Treblinka were different but both contributed to the holocaust. There isn't "one" holocaust narrative anymore. No historian today claims that.
I just recommend you to read Bloodlands by Baberowski or something actually written by a fucking historian and not by some stormfront redneck online.
>>63538553
Himmler was worse than Hitler anyways
>>63538539
That could be anybody. Provide evidence linking this picture to Lincoln.
>>63538569
Guess how I can tell you're from Western Europe.
>>63538539
Thats from a movie.
>>63538569
>ironic
Shitskin detected
>>63538539
This is some terrible photoshop.
Who are you trying to convince, Unionist c͏uck?
>dem Negroes are good boys they needs to be freed an shieeeet
>>63538569
>ironic racism
hi r/4chan
>>63538641
get fucked, you Democrats will never bring slavery back no matter how much you want free voters
>>63538553
Regarding the Jews? No there isn't and nobody ever claimed there is.
Did he order mass killings? You bet he did.
>captcha 420 confirms I am right
>>63538641
Why would he have hair if he just had it cut off? Check mate Lincolnist.
>>63538539
>posts still from Jewberg's movie
Yes, yes goyim, Lincoln was a real man who cared about our black brothers
Now don't be a racist and let your white daughters have Jamal's babies
>>63538610
>i have no evidence
>better start shitposting
>>63538693
>worst meme on /tv/
What a surprise
>>63538703
>demanding evidence for a falsification
Do you even Sir Karl Popper?
>>63537415
>USE THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!
Yeah, because we all know lies and misinformation can't be posted online.
The truth is, the only legitimate evidence of the holocaust happening is post-war confessions (which can forced out of people whether their true or fake) and "survivor accounts" again, things that can be fabricated easily, which seems likely considering the vast amount of conflicting information given by these so called survivors.
>>63538493
no, you didn't say ability. here's what you wrote.
>He talks about... destroying European Jewry through expulsion.
what is being destroyed is not their ''ability to stay in Europe'' but themselves
>''The Führer once again expressed his determination to clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.''
>''The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be liquidated whereas only about 40 per cent can be used for work.''
here are just a few quotes.
>>63538703
I'm pointing out the amount of rational discussion that one could have with you. You would only refute any evidence provided as falsification, based on the stance you have already adopted. I could give almost the exact same counter-arguments about the existence of Lincoln.
>>63538703
>believing in Lincoln
t. Black Scientologist
>>63538750
There's fuck all evidence for it and the people screaming "use google!" know that.
>>63538569
>le we were always just ironically racist I s-swear :) may may
fuck off newfag
>>63538750
You do realize you don't have to believe everything you read on the internet right? And that you can usually tell if something is well-sourced etc.?
>>63538586
The testimony I referred to came from Auschwitz. Is it not relevant that a place where a million (1/6 of the total number) Jews were supposedly killed held soccer matches and orchestral performances for its inmates?
Auschwitz is hardly the only camp lacking in evidence. There was a special on the Smithsonian channel where an archaeologist visited Treblinka and was allowed for the first time to conduct a dig (at the behest of the Jews who only allow them to dig a few 5x5 plots so as to not disturb the burial site). They manage to find a thousands of years old shark tooth but no bones amazingly enough.
>>63538676
If anything this gives more support to Holocaust deniers. Why would Nazi Germany openly admit to a Eugenics program but not to the genocide of the Jews and others?
Also if you don't support eugenics you're a bitch.
>>63538772
>i have no evidence
>better start shitposting
also: presidental portrait you fucking mong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
all the proof necessary is compiled right there
>>63538770
Kek. Fuck off mate, trying argue semantics because you got fuck all else. Strange that you and you alone seem to think those quotes are indicitive of a Holocaust, isn't it? You would think the kikes would be screaming that from the roofs. Cherrypicking text out of context proves fuck all - if you read the diary you'd understand why NOBODY thinks it has any reference to your holocaust
Schlomocaust is the Reddit of genocides. Chinks, Kardashians or Niggers in Niger had it 10 times worse and they don't complain.
>>63538772
Cui Bono? Who stands to benefit from a MASSIVE conspiracy to manufacture the existence of Abraham Lincoln?
It doesn't compare to the Holocaust. If it wasn't for slavery, no one would even know who Lincoln was. The Holocaust is covered in school much more extensively than Lincoln.
>>63538849
>They manage to find a thousands of years old shark tooth but no bones amazingly enough.
>Indeed, when the archaeology team began digging to confirm the lidar results, they uncovered shoes, ammunition, and bones — including bones with cut marks indicating that the victims had been stabbed or otherwise assaulted.
http://www.livescience.com/44443-treblinka-archaeological-excavation.html
>>63538928
Now this is shitposting
>>63538044
>let's tattoo the jews before we gas and cremate them
Fucking kek anon.
>>63538962
So benefit is how you decide which way burden of proof works?
>>63538857
>Lincoln was real, please Tyrone come impregnate my wife
t. repentant white devil descendant of Yakub's evil creation
>141 posts
>implying I'm gonna read the whole thread
Has anybody actually seen the documentary? I have and it's pretty decent.
Face it, /pol/keks, your memes are trash. They will never be funny and neither will you.
>>63538849
>but no bones amazingly enough
you have it backwards. it would be amazing if they found bones considering the victims were cremated and the ashes spread. only the first phases of the holocaust involved the mass burial of intact corpses as himmler was scared of future katyn-like discoveries.
>>63538942
>arguing semantics
I'm pointing out how you're an inarticulate imbecile who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
>kikes
why is it that every conversation with a holocaust denier devolves to this? at least try to act impartial.
>>63538199
>interpreting words in diaries is the best proof of the holocaust
Even when Britain and Turing had cracked the Nazi codes and were listening in on Auschwitz reports, there was no talk of exterminations.
>>63538849
>>63538969
haha fucking rekt
>>63538969
>shoes, ammunition, and bones — including bones with cut marks indicating that the victims had been stabbed or otherwise assaulted
Is that evidence of gas chambers or any other method mass extermination? Did they stab the Jews to death?
Sounds like a regular war zone to me. Especially considering they would've have removed their shoes before killing them
>>63539060
Yes I suppose it would be amazing if they found proof.
This is the same backwards Holocaust logic I mentioned earlier in the thread. You can't prove that it happened so you try to prove that it could have. Then you end up saying shit like this in an effort to explain how millions were killed without leaving a shred of evidence.
>>63539419
you claimed that no bones were found, the other guy posted a link proving that they were found.
you've been caught, you devious, scheming little fuck.
>>63539104
>still arguing semantics
>believes he's intelligent
>still has NO evidence
>no using slang you guize
>holocaust denier as an insult
>>>/t/umblr
>>63536779
>masturbation machines
Excuse me?
>>63539127
Watch the tumblrinas ignore this post
>>63539520
>hard cunts
ah, the aussie shitposter is caught out
>>63538948
Oy vey, delete this
>>63539530
Someone post it, I don't have the pic. It's testimony from a Jew that the Germans stuck them on a machine that jerked them off until they died
>>63539489
>devious, scheming little fuck.
The only bones I knew they found were from a Christian burial site away from the actual camp.
How about this, no forensic evidence of a mass extermination.
>>63539551
Literally on the other side of the planet, but you were close there anon
>>63539530
>In Stolen Soul, the Jew Holstein says Nazi doctors attempted to prove Aryan superiority by collecting Jewish semen with masturbating machines that often killed their subjects.
>Quote from page 117 …
>But we never gave in, not really; there was that one time just before liberation but other than that we were strong. We would see the boys they put on those masturbating machines just drop, just die, right there in front of us. The absolute cruelty was beyond our belief.
>That they could do these things to us, that human beings were doing it to other human beings… and we would hobble back to camp with painfully swollen scrotums whimpering: “Don’t bump me! Please, just don’t touch me!”
>>63539598
>a cute nazi girl will never put you in a masturbation machine
>>63539419
The most efficient method of extermination was starvation.
If anyone is wondering how 6 million Jews could have died in the span of ~6 years, you should be asking how 3 million Soviet POWs died in less than a year.
>>63539530
They'd put a jew in a room with a hole in it and then tell him not to put his dick in it. When he did, it would turn out to be a machine that masturbated him to death
>>63539520
i'm not arguing semantics. the two statements you made clearly have very different meanings, and the goebbels quotes contradict the points you later made.
i wasn't insulting you either. i mean, you are a holocaust denier, what's the big deal? give your head a shake, friend.
>>63539489
People being bludgeoned to death is not proof of gas chambers. It doesn't matter whether you think it happened or not, your logic doesn't make sense.
No one in this thread is arguing that the Nazis didn't like Jews. Violence against Jews unquestionably happened. But mass graves do not prove anything about organised gassing and cremations.
>the holocaust didnt happen! there were no gas chambers!
>all those millions of people who died in the camps died from disease and starvation which uh... w-...wasn't Hitlers fault... even though he put them there... he wasn't responsible... for some reason...
>>63539660
>The most deaths took place between June 1941 and January 1942, when the Germans killed an estimated 2.8 million Soviet POWs primarily through deliberate starvation,[9] exposure, and summary execution, in what has been called, along with the Rwandan Genocide, an instance of "the most concentrated mass killing in human history (...) eclipsing the most exterminatory months of the Jewish Holocaust".[10] By September 1941, the mortality rate among Soviet POWs was in the order of 1% per day.[7] According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM), by the winter of 1941, "starvation and disease resulted in mass death of unimaginable proportions".[11] This deliberate starvation, leading many desperate prisoners to resort to acts of cannibalism,[10] was Nazi policy in spite of food being available,[12] in accordance to the Hunger Plan developed by the Reich Minister of Food Herbert Backe. For the Germans, Soviet POWs were expendable: they consumed calories needed by others and, unlike Western POWs, were considered to be subhuman.[13]
Jews forget about them because they aren't Jews, and /pol/ doesn't know about it because they aren't Jews and the mass killing of non-Jews supports the Jews' arguments. It's a vicious cycle, but luckily the Russians remember how costly their victory was.
>>63539765
But gas chambers unquestionably existed. You can argue about how many people were killed via gas chamber but they definitely existed.
And bodies were cremated too. Again, how many is up for debate, but denying either of these methods were used is delusional.
>>63537580
Is that why the German police raided that old denier grandma for that one-hour Q&A thing she did on German national television?
Good one, Ahmed Türkmen Kebab.
>>63539840
>But gas chambers unquestionably existed. You can argue about how many people were killed via gas chamber but they definitely existed.
I'm not calling you a liar, but where is the proof of this outside witness testimonies?
>still believing in the worlds biggest meme
>>63539840
They exist but they are delousing chambers not a single person has died in them.
>Hurr the Poles were evil, even worse than Germans
>They were selling us out without regret or remorse
>Even though in Poland there was a biggest amount of people hiding Jews from Germans among all the nations
>They also lost more people and suffered far worse atrocities during this war, we are still its biggest victims
>And God's chosen people
Tell me one reason to like these guys, because I can't find any.
>>63539826
>>all those millions of people who died in the camps died from disease and starvation which uh... w-...wasn't Hitlers fault... even though he put them there... he wasn't responsible... for some reason...
americans purposely cut off the food and supplies to the camps knowing what would happen. jews had america and allies set it up so it looked like there were starved by germans.
>>63539964
>Tell me one reason to like these guys, because I can't find any.
because 6 million of them died in ww2, anti-semite
>>63540024
>which uh... w-...wasn't Hitlers fault... even though he put them there... he wasn't responsible... for some reason...
Who in this thread has argued this?
![image002[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/vJshNzR.gif "image002[1].gif")
>>63539660
The same would've happened to the Japanese if Americans would have had their supply lines destroyed.
>>63539840
>But gas chambers unquestionably existed.
You mean delousing chambers?
>>63539827
What does this have to do with the Holocaust? Are you admitting that the gas chambers were a myth?
>>63539826
So your saying the Holocaust didn't happen and the Jews simply had the misfortune of being placed in camps by the losing side?
Its funny that everyone is arguing the starvation route now that they find they don't have nearly as much evidence as they thought they did for gas chambers.
>>63536549
OY VEY
>>63536946
>>63537574
>le stop agreeing with me
the sign of a true retard.
>>63537089
>you're a nazi sympathizer
Indoctrination in action.
Your mind just makes the jump from "he believes the holocaust did not happen" to "he is a nazi sympathiser".
>>63537276
The jews were a group of foreigners, a particularly hostile one.
They were rounded up and put in camps to perform labour and to prevent them from acting against the Germans during the war.
It's not as heinous as you think, considering that they wouldn't fare very well staying in the cities, due to all the bombing.
>>63537846
>clergymen systematically killed
Could you elaborate?
In 1933, prior to the annexation of Austria into Germany, the population of Germany was approximately 67% Protestant and 33% Catholic
A census in May 1939, six years into the Nazi era[2] and incorporating the annexation of mostly Catholic Austria into Germany, indicates that 54% considered themselves Protestant (including non-denominational Christians), 40% Catholic.
Given the fact that the overwhelming majority of Germans were Christian I highly doubt it.
>>63539660
>>63539826
Dr. Gordon's findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a psychiatrist of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that "Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II weren't deliberately starved to death but died from a rash of diseases." [6]
Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.
Despite noisily publicized claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml
>>63540191
>The jews were a group of foreigners, a particularly hostile one.
>They were rounded up and put in camps to perform labour and to prevent them from acting against the Germans during the war.
Exactly.
The only difference between the concentration camps in America and the concentration camps in Germany is that Germany lost the war.
>>63538150
>MUH MIDDLE GROUND
>everything that 4channers believe is purely in reaction to reddit and the mainstream
This is the thread where I will admit I think Fiddler on the Roof is a great film.
>>63540429
>>63536709
/pol/ reinforces mindset through circlejerking, and /tv/ absorbs a high /pol/ spillover because television and film is a highly accessible subject that any idiot generally can engage with. Largely because video demands no participation from the viewer.
>>63540191
>''They were rounded up and put in camps to perform labour and to prevent them from acting against the Germans during the war.''
why would they act against germans?
>we are going to take you and your family and turn you into slaves and get a bunch of you killed
>''it's not as heinous as you think''
ok
>''considering that they wouldn't fare very well staying in the cities, due to all the bombing.''
>It's okay that we exploited, tortured, and killed all these people because they would have maybe would have gotten hurt in the city. So you see, we were actually doing them a favor -- a favor which we did not do for own beloved German people who were similarly being bombed.
>Indoctrination in action. Your mind just makes the jump from "he believes the holocaust did not happen" to "he is a nazi sympathiser".
you really shouldn't say something like this right before going on a rant where you regurgitate Nazi propaganda that even Goebbels would have found unsubtle.
>>63538586
Babi Yar displays a sensible method of execution.
Line people up next to a ditch. Shoot them. Push them into the ditch.
And there's bodies with bullets in them.
This is pretty much the cheapest, quickest, easiest way to kill people.
Treblinka? Put people into a room. Put gas into the room. Wait for the gas to take effect. Let the gas out. Carry out each body out of the room.
Very silly, labour intensive and time consuming. Why would they do it like this?
> or something actually written by a fucking historian and not by some stormfront redneck online.
You have a very authoritarian view of knowledge.
>>63540552
>why would a group of people at war with a country act against that country
you're not half as smart as you think you are
>>63536784
The nazis were just deporting jews from their country because they were the main instigators for communist revolution and they were greedy as fuck and that doesnt fit well in national socialism. They were put in internment camps during the war because they didnt leave and were actively working with the enemy by spying and sabotage.
>>63540521
/pol/ allows discussion from any viewpoint
It tends towards holocaust revisionism because the holocaust is utterly bullshit. Holocaust believers have no facts or evidence to support their deluded faith.
That is why holocaust denial is a crime in so many countries. It is why reddit and other pleb sites ban people for debunking the holocaust. And it is why people will try to ruin your life if you question the holocaust with your real identity.
The holocaust is a religion. Pure bullshit, spread with force and violence by fanatic believers.
4chan allows anonymous discussion and free speech so of course it turns into a "circlejerk" of people demolishing your preciously held mythologies.
>>63540552
>why would they act against germans?
why would the jap-americans act against america?
>>63540552
>you really shouldn't say something like this right before going on a rant where you regurgitate Nazi propaganda that even Goebbels would have found unsubtle.
Not him but where was the propaganda? That Germans were Christian?
That's war pussy. No one denies Germany that it sucked to be Jew in Nazi Germany. The same and much worse was happening all over the world. Idiots ITT have gone from bitching about the 6 million gassed to "imprisoning people during times of war is, like, really bad". You're on the ropes now.
>>63540700
>Holocaust believers have no facts or evidence to support their deluded faith.
oh boy
>>63537046
Im sure you have researched all sources from all perspectives before coming to such a strong opinion. I think your virtue signaling would go over better on another well known website.
>>63540700
>4chan allows anonymous discussion and free speech so of course it turns into a "circlejerk" of people demolishing your preciously held mythologies.
Is that also why 4chan turns into a "circlejerk" of free speech advocates arguing about which 2D Chinese girl will make the best girlfriend and which pony's pussy feels the best?
>>63540749
Post some evidence then friend
>>63540749
Try to find evidence of even a single inmate death from poison gas.
Supposedly millions were gassed. Should be easy to find proof of even one of them, right?
>>63540653
that boycott was started in response to germans treating Jews like shit.
Jews were persecuted no doubt about that but eeehhh...
I think if 6 million jews died schools would teach about the nine million victims of the shoah, and so on
>>63536549
Treblinka you say? Prepare for lels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rbRNSGQUs
Watch from 38:20 and 1:02:20
>>63540792
Luckily for you or me, hundreds, possibly more, of scholars have examined the evidence. Personally I would suggest Peter Longerich's 2010 book Holocaust for a very in depth overview.
>>63540321
>>everything that 4channers believe is purely in reaction to reddit and the mainstream
>implying it isn't
4chan is mostly contrarian for the sake of being contrarian 2bh pham
This whole reactionary political spiel is really just kids being contrarian and edgy now that being an anarchist is out of vogue
>>63540700
>That is why holocaust denial is a crime in so many countries.
No. That's because a man who denies the single best-documented crime in the entire human history is guaranteed to not be arguing in good faith, so the same logic as with laws against slander applies.
>>63540712
well putting aside the fact that none of them really did, the US was officially at war with Japan because of Pearl Harbor which proved that Japan was physically fighting the US.
>>63540818
And? It's right there in black and white Judea declares war on Germany. What military would leave a people AT WAR with you run around behind your lines? How is German internment different to what was done to the Japanese in America?
>nine hours
Why? Do they not know how to edit?
>>63537265
They kept records of everything meticulously, including mass killings of civilians in poland. Why wouldnt they keep track of a program that cost them valuable resources during a time of extreme hardship?
>>63540875
>g-go r-read a b-book
summarise it for me. what great evidence was found
>>63540910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident
>>63540910
>>63540955
how about this one friend: why did none of the other countries want the jews germany didn't want?
>>63540800
>Supposedly millions were gassed. Should be easy to find proof of even one of them, right?
Given that you will just say the exact same thing that you are already saying regarding the veritable mountains of evidence presented on post-war trials, namely that it is all faked, why should we take the bait, nazi-kun?
>>63540954
German records, gravesites, confessions and witnesses from either side of the fence so to speak.
You know, you guys could convince a lot more people to reevaluate the Holocaust if you weren't so openly hostile, smug and especially anti-Semitic. It really just makes you look like edgy contrarians, and has everyone dismiss you outright rather than considering the evidence.
I generally believe the numbers are exaggerated and think the gas chambers could be a myth, but I could never say that because you idiots can't talk about it without sounding like tinfoil hat racists.
>>63540954
>>63541021
>i have no proof
>better change the subject
>>63541016
why should anyone bow down to a bully
>>63540881
I bet you think you are one of the smarter people that actually contributes to 4chan in a positive manner.
Either that or you're of the "4chan for shitposting, Reddit for actual discussion crowd".
>>63540895
>guaranteed to not be arguing in good faith
And that should be illegal?
>>63541035
Right so no actual evidence? Not a single bit of that would stand up in a court of law and you're smart enough to know that
>>63541071
Not even sure if you're being serious right now.
Nobody liked the Jews. Nobody wanted them.
>>63541093
Ha haa, you almost got me. 6.5/10 my friend.
>>63541044
>infogram
>>63540945
>implying they don't sell snacks and beverages several times during the screening
>>63540952
>Why wouldnt they keep track of a program that cost them valuable resources during a time of extreme hardship?
They wouldn't, and so they did. Einsatzgruppen documentation had survived. But please keep pretending to be retarded.
>>63541121
and yet only the germans set out on exterminating them en masse
>>63537728
Its illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany and Mossad was literally killing Nazis after the war or kidnapping them
and bringing to israel for a show trial and then life imprisonment.
Why is /pol/ a low IQ board?
>>63541035
>from either side of the fence so to speak
Including the side that claims to have witnessed plays and orchestral performances at Auschwitz?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtlPlZGvgY0
>>63541069
Nice selfie, nazi-kun.
>>63540800
>from The Auschwitz Gas Chamber Illusion
Sounds like a very reliable source.
>>63536765
>4chan
>intelligent
>>63541135
I'll mail you some Jew ash tomorrow.
>>63541174
I'm sure this picture is highly accurate
>>63540895
>single best-documented crime in the entire human history
The only documents available prove it didn't happen.
Having both the birth and death dates, we can calculate the age at death. The following is a break-down of the records by age. This is of interest, as Jews claim that the old, young, and anyone unfit for work, were immediately gassed on arrival at Auschwitz (and, of course, Jews claim, no record was kept of these killings, while careful records were kept of all other deaths). Clearly, this was not the case. It is particularly unlikely, that the three ladies over 90 years old, were fit for any sort of work.
>b-b-b-but millions were murdered with no documentation even though germans documented every single prisoner
>and their bodies vanished into thin air with no ashes or bones left
>trust us goy, we have "eyewitnesses" and confessions to prove it!
>>63541211
>i'm being btfo
>better start insulting people
you cücks are all the same
>>63541153
After failing to try and have them expelled to anywhere else.
I wonder what it's like to be as dumb as you.
>>63541174
>/pol/ that low and /int/ that high
>fucking wallpaper general at an average genius level IQ
>>63538831
Reddit doesn't use the word "le" anymore. They haven't used it for years. It belongs exclusively to shitposters on 4chan. How does that make you feel?
>>63541240
>Anything that makes my neckbeard meme board look retarded is fake!!!!
Gud thread
>>63540552
>why would they act against germans?
Because the Jewish religion is hostile to goyim, especially idolaters (eg Christians).
Because Marxism was popular amongst the Jews.
Because they did it a few years before, take a look at the Free Socialist Republic of Germany leadership.
Rosa Luxembourg - Jewish
Kurt Eisner - Jewish
Karl Radek - Jewish
Leo Jogiches - Jewish
Ernst Toller - Jewish
Gustav Landauer - Jewish
Eugene Levine - Jewish
Paul Levi - Jewish
Clara Zetkin - idk, but she practically (not actually) married a Jew and adopted his last name.
Karl Liebknecht - I don't believe so, idk
8/10 to 9/10 is quite Jewish
>>63541044
Many people, both experts and laymen, rely good-naturedly upon the findings of the Jan Sehn Institute for Forensic Research in Cracow, i.e., the study published in 1994 by Prof. Markiewicz and colleagues. These Polish scientists, however, tested their samples with analytical methods that were unable to detect stable iron cyanide compounds.
The manner with which the Polish scientists approached the problem, however, gives rise to serious suspicion that this was an attempt at scientific fraud, a suspicion which is also supported by the fact that they were unable to justify their incorrect methods of measurement except through their incompetence and ignorance.
The conclusions to be drawn from the above is clear: the only 'scientific' attempt to refute Fredrick A. Leuchter's sensational argument proves, upon closer examination, to be one of the greatest scientific falsifications of the 20th century.
How desperate must one really be, if it is believed necessary to stoop to such methods in an attempt to defend the established version of the Holocaust, i.e., the alleged systematic extermination of the Jews in homicidal 'gas chambers'?
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/8.html#8.4.2.
>>63541332
>alleged IQ ratings of 4chan boards
>he believes them
How fucking retarded are you?
>>63541283
as someone who frequents /int/ I can tell you that it is populated by meme hungry retards such as myself.
>>63541332
>i believe infograms on 4chan
>/tv/ has an average iq of 120
>>63540924
>It's right there in black and white Judea declares war in Germany
Oh fucking come on, that is obviously such a bullshit reason and just an excuse to treat Jews even worse. There was no country called Judea and Jews aren't a hivemind. There was even some kind of fucking Jewish committee that was for Germany and against the boycott. It was a fucking article in a newspaper that called for a boycott of German products because Jews were being treated viciously in Germany and it was getting worse.
I honestly don't understand your moral position on this.
>How is German internment different to what was done to the Japanese in America.
First, most people consider the internment of Jap-Americans to have been a horrible thing.
But besides that, America was officially at war with Japan (you know, an actual country) and America didn't kill millions of Japanese people who lived in the US.
>>63540895
>the single best-documented crime in the entire human history
But it's not the best documented crime in history. Threads such as this one couldn't exist if it was the best documented crime in history. No one questions the specifics of the Rwandan genocide because the evidence lines up with the testimonies.
Whether it happened or not, the Holocaust was horribly documented.
>>63537728
NEWSFLASH: The Nazis lost the war.
They were at the mercy of their captors.
>>63538044
Any prosecutor will tell you eye witness testimony is great for convincing people but it is the worst evidence. The massive amount of evidence that would be produced by a government project like this would be overwhelming but it just isnt there. The documents ,the orders, the records all contradict the "death camp" narrative pushed so hard by soviet and Jewish propaganda .
I know it all sounds stupid but please research a few sources.
>>63541409
Why should I believe the autistic /pol/ infographs that claim well documented historical events never happened, but not this? Because "muh feels"?
>w...we're brilliant! My mommy says show when she comes into my basement to change my sheets! this is fake!
basically
>>63536549
>tl;dr the movie
>>63541430
>jews aren't a hivemind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rbRNSGQUs [Embed]
Watch from 38:20 and 1:02:20
>>63541215
Show me evidence of even a single inmate death from poison gas.
If millions were gassed it should be incredibly easy to prove AT LEAST ONE death from poison gas.
