What's the point of watching movies and tv shows when you're going to forget most of the basic plots in a week or so.
I saw the godfather yesterday for the first time and I'm already forgetting character's names and shit. just fuck my mind up senpai
if youre going to go down this gay existential road whats the point of doing anything
>>63520029
Because I will occasionally find that movie that resonates with me.
I wont remember the names or the plot but I will remember the scene and the emotions it brought.
Recently Creed was one of the greatest theater experiences I have ever had. The whole audience cheered silently at the last fight and we gasped in unison near the end.
>>63520029
wWhats the point of waking up if you're justing going to have to go back to sleep in a few hours and one day you will di.e ?
>>63520396
Because for now we are young, so let us lay in the sun and count every beautiful thing we can see
>>63520029
To kill time until we get neural implants that give us perfect memory.
Duh.
The point is to distract myself from the soul-crushing emptiness of real life.
>>63520433
LOVE TO BE
>>63520029
what's the point of masturbating if the pleasure goes completely away 15 seconds after orgasm?
>>63520585
And then the self-loathing sets in
>>63520119
>this
Kill yourself then
>>63520396
not to push my theism on you but that completely makes sense, i dont understand how athiests think living life to the "fullest" is even relevant to permanent death for eternity, you're not going t remember shit all later and you will be scared as shit before death and won't rememebr what you did while you were alive anyways
>>63523470
>i dont understand how athiests think living life to the "fullest" is even relevant to permanent death for eternity
That's where the whole existential nihilism thing comes in. Following this logic, everything is futile and nothing matters. The combination of a human desire for meaning and the realisation of meaninglessness causes cognitive dissonance.
The "living life to the fullest" mentality is one of many possible coping mechanisms for that mental distress. Hedonism/epicureanism is a form of escapism meant to distract people from having to be constantly reminded of the futility of their existence.
Not to shit on your theism, but that's my take on it.
Art expands and stimulates the human mind
However if your IQ is below 90 you won't be able to appreciate it
>>63524045
as a Christian with enough sufficient evidence both factual and spiritual, im inclined to believe God gives our purpose, which is service to humanity in even the most mundane and tragic of conditions, and one day when the time comes everything will be restored and truthfully jovial, and i dont think you shit on me but thanks for responding
>>63520029
If you really liked them you wouldn't forget them.
>>63524591
art honestly is in my opinion purely therapeutic, no human is intrinsically content or comfortable so they will always see value in art for its ability to provide reassurance in some psychological matter that a person is dealing with, the most content and jovial people in my experince have always been people who live the simplest lives and are the least exposed to things, they have joy and apply it to what people would say are terribly mundane
>>63520585
Oh god this so fucking much
>>63520496
In thememesof all I'm keeping here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWbgR4vYiw for u bud
>>63520585
>not edging for an hour
>not cumming buckets
>not enjoying a post-orgasm buzz
Literally why I get up in the morning.
>>63520585
masturbation is for weaklings, unable to harness will power and use it, most historically influential men and women have overcame they're deep desire for sex, it's just a distraction, that can be used for the right purpose of course
>>63520396
lol who cares
>>63520029
You watch them so you can shitpost about how awful they were.
>>63525028
Fuck you faggot
Still gonna believe in g-d when a pyschopath captures you and tortures you all day every day for weeks?
Didn't think so faggot.
>>63525210
how would me being tortured and being weak and possibly denouncing him out of fear deter the fact that he is a living God lol? Have you not read anything in the Bible lol it is literally the dna of life, there is nothing that happens now that hasn't happened before
>same substance, different style
>>63525282
Maybe g-d does exist but if he does he's a fucking asshole and you're a retard for worshiping an asshole that hates you and makes you suffer.
>>63525330
how does he hate us and how exactly is he an asshole, and please don't bring up the old testament because neither of us have the time and possibly the patience to have that conversation
>>63525391
Because he makes people suffer
Why not make everyone not suffer if he is god and can do anything? Sounds to me like he's an asshole, if he does exist. Don't bother responding because you can't prove me wrong, there's no holes in this argument.
>>63520029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTbHqFtmWcw please watch
>>63525438
Do you like free will
>>63525469
Yeah, more important that pedophiles have free will than that children not get raped.
>>63525469
>free will
>>63525564
pedophiles aren't born pedophiles, its a developed disorder, free will must be consistent for it to exist, if he can intervene whenever he wants (post new testament) then free will is not really a standard that is true, and while death is a horrible thing, paradise must be a an infinitely better antithesis to death if he tells us to not fear it.
>>63525601
some nice colors, what is it
>>63525442
This person is objectively wrong, but he's wrong in an elegant and well-spoken way.
>>63525740
how so, sir
>>63525686
>free will must be consistent for it to exist
Why care so much about free will then? I'd rather a substitute that is like free will, but switches off before child-raping occurs.
>>63525787
How so is he wrong?
Well, for one, he points at beauty and morality as sufficient proofs for the divine, but those things can still exist in a world without a God.
>>63520029
>Mfw I'm alive
>>63525887
he's making an argument that they can only come from the divine, why have morality if you sleep forever, sure they will be pain now but your infinite sleep will dilute that memory forever, beauty is some sort of recognition of symetry or health or emotional relevance which are all aspects of good which we will belive God is the source of good and is goodness himself, what would be your argument against that
>>63525875
>while death is a horrible thing, paradise must be a an infinitely better antithesis to death if he tells us to not fear it.
thankfully you don't speak for humanity lol there is no process if growth if there is no experience, that child will either grow strong because of it or die miserable and be exposed to eternal joy that engulfs any sadness they could have ever experienced
>>63526053
btw that was me quoting myself lol spiffy eh jack
>>63520029
Because my memory is better than a goldfish's
>>63526016
Rationally, people can conclude that life is pointless, but they'll still fundamentally have an investment in life. That's how we're biologically hardwired, survival instinct and all that. We're also hardwired to be a social species, meaning that we naturally have to co-operate to survive. That means forming a society, and coming up with rules to smooth interactions within that society. Hence morality - no God required.
And beauty as a recognition of symmetry still needn't be necessarily linked to anything remotely divine. Symmetry might occur in a godless universe as well.
>>63526053
The fact that the child will experience perpetual happiness wouldn't absolve me from the wrong of not preventing the rape if I had the opportunity. Why does it absolve god?
>>63526206
lol that's not morality, that's natural defensive behavior manifesting into social structure, people don't know what right and wrong is, they learn it from experience. and im not talking about the attribute of symmetry but our admiration of it and it's spiritual elation it can provide us on a number of levels
>>63526265
>Do you like free will
Along with the promise of free willI, i already said the experience after death will completely overshadow any amount of pain a person could ever experience in the prior reality. Look at Jesus' time on earth, he knowingly came into earth knowing that he was going to die one of the most excruciating deaths humanity has ever seen to prove that a permanent life with the full presence of God nullifies any experience of pain you could ever feel right now, to the point you would voluntarily die for others because you have finally experienced unconditional love.
>martyrdom done right
>>63526378
>natural defensive behavior manifesting into social structure
There is no reason morality needs to be anything more than that.
>people don't know what right and wrong is
Right is what keeps society intact and helps people survive, wrong is what breaks society apart and is detrimental to people's survival. That's putting it in the most simplified terms of course, but it's what it essentially boils down to.
>our admiration of symmetry and it's spiritual elation
We can still appreciate symmetry if God doesn't exist.
>>63520396
>that pic
realer than real
>>63526507
You haven't explained the apparent double standard. Or do you think that the fact that the child will experience perpetual happiness WOULD absolve me from the wrong of not preventing the rape?
And we've moved on from the free will issue. As I already said, I would like a free-will substitute that is exactly like free will but stops short of allowing child rape more than genuine free will.
>>63526544
your definition of good and my definition of good clearly differs, i'm saying we only appreciate beauty because it is good and he is the source of goodness. defensive behavior is not morality. question is it right to sacrifice yourself for the lives of others, if everyone is going to permanently sleep when they die anyways, another is it right to have a family killed to save millions
>>63520585
I came in my skivies this morning because it's been awhile since i've jerked it. it sucked desu senpai
dumb /v/eddit fucks
>>63525151
>tfw you have a gf you can fuck
>tfw it's still not as good as edging to porn + the flood
>Americans can't remember movies
>>63526689
what do you mean absolve, to absolve someone, they have to be guilty of doing something autonomous or some sort of causality, How is God guilty of doing something he was never part of, becuase he has the power? so he is morally obliged? yet we call him the very source of morality, so would he not know the purpose of his decisions, can he not anticipate further than our limited minds, of course all this must be considered with the fact that you accept that Jesus rose form the dead and that is a cornerstone of your faith, while some don't need to know this truth to arrive at the conclusion of higher power
>>63526829
He moves in mysterious ways. Got it.
>>63526698
>your definition of good and my definition of good clearly differs
No doubt. See, you've made good and morality out to be this metaphysical and somewhat romantic thing, and I see it as a phenomenon that has formed out of nature and pragmatism. Though we will doubtlessly also disagree on this, I don't think you can prove the existence of any metaphysical reality for your vision of morality to exist in, whereas we know for certain the reality for my view of morality exists.
>is it right to sacrifice yourself for the lives of others
>is it right to have a family killed to save millions
These are issues of how you should exactly fill in the details of moral rules. Less 'what morality is' and more 'how you should apply it'. I won't lie to you and claim there's a perfect system of normative ethics. It's not a perfect world, so the rules we superimpose on it won't be perfect either. Different people from different cultures and mindsets with different values will have different answers to these questions, further showing how relative morality can be.
>>63526984
EXACTLY. and i don't mean this in an antagonize way, basically there are outstanding truths, clues as to how he operates
>>63525716
snakelaughing.jpg
>>63527022
I want to thank you for having this conversation with me without it devolving into a trade of insults, i commend you.
Old testament basically is an eye for eye, you sin, you pay a direct consequence, new testament, God comes down in the form of a man and shows the world how one must live. God is love, you can call him good, moral, there are a varity of colourful adjectives but what makes him stand out from any other human that is decorated with those honors is that God is believed to be perfect and unconditional, if those dilmemmas are ever posed to Jesus or God, the answers and thinking is always the same, with humans its circumstantial and that is becuase of our limited view of the future, we cannot anticipate that far or to the level of God, this is what we believe anyways,
>i respect anyone who truthfully tries to find his way, just tryna do my part
>>63527255
forgot to add Jeus dies for our offenses so we can enter a perfect reality, offering us unconditional forgiveness seeing that we accept it
>hell is a reality without god, forget artful nd animated interpretation
>>63527255
>I want to thank you for having this conversation with me without it devolving into a trade of insults, i commend you.
Same. I do enjoy talking to religious people about this kind of stuff, since it reminds me of why I believe the things I believe, and sometimes forces me to go back and question some things I might have taken for granted. The conversation remaining civil and respectful naturally helps to keep it on track.
Of course, you views of morality are contingent on your belief in the existence of God, which is something I don't agree with on epistemological grounds, and that's of course a much larger debate in itself.
But, like I said, there is no perfect moral system. If Christian morality keeps Christians moral in a way that doesn't conflict with my take on morality, I have no problem with it, even if I disagree with its primary assumptions.
>>63527577
And people say secularist's and theists can't live civilly together lol pleasure man
>>63527577
i'm also obliged to say God Bless aha
>>63527862
Many Christians have been kind enough to impart God's blessings upon me throughout my life.
Even if I don't think that does anything, I can't imagine it hurts either.
Best of luck to you.
The plot is irrelevant. Movies can still leave an impression on you in other ways just like any other work of art or real life experience can.
>>63527034
Christfag: what's your personal evidence for believing in the god of the desert?
>>63520029
>forget most of the basic plots in a week or so.
what?
is your memory fucking garbage or something? go see a doctor, you probably have ADHD kid
>>63525028
>as a Christian with enough sufficient evidence both factual and spiritual, im inclined to believe God gives our purpose
Well that's a sentence you don't read on /tv/ or this site every day if I were to be honest.
It was kinda refreshing
>>63525151
>>63530367
he never presented his "evidence."
