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Which candidate has the most patrician tastes?
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People Magazine asked some 2016 candidates what their favorite show was.

>Hillary Clinton
Madam Secretary

>Bernie Sanders
Modern Family

>Donald Trump
The SNL episode he appeared on

>Marco Rubio
The Walking Dead

>Ted Cruz
Criminal Minds, Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and Veep

>Jeb Bush
Lilyhammer

>Chris Christie
Football Life

>Mike Huckabee
Bill Maher

>Carly Fiorina
House of Cards
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>>63493587
Jeb!
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>>63493587
it makes sense that trump would pick something he was in. man, such a narcissist.
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>>63493587
Trump, obviously.
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>>63493587
I'm a little stunned about Mike Huckabee's answer.
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I've heard Ted Cruz is a huge asshole but he does have great taste.
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>>63493587
>Donald Trump
>The SNL episode he appeared on
What a complete and absolute faggot...
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Hillary is such a panderous cunt

Literally nothing about her is genuine.
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>>63493587
>that non-answer from Trump because he doesn't want people making fun of his favorite show
total bitch nigga
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How the fuck does Ted Cruz have so much time to watch TV? Shouldn't he be running a presidential campaign and, you know, actually working in the Senate?
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I feel like Huckabee would have an aneurysm watching Maher.
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why was ted cruz allowed to pick more than one?
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>>63493587

jeb, amazingly
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>>63493587
>Everyone in the thread is going to think trump is a narcissist even though it's the answer of someone who does not give a fuck about tv

>No one will notice that Hillary's is way more scary and narcissistic
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>>63493587
>Donald Trump
>The SNL episode he appeared on
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rand isn't on the list?

but Christie is of course
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>>63493587
>Modern Family

My nigga, Sanders.
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>>63493807
this tbph, fuck her
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>>63493966
haha native americans are foreign hordes.
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>>63493587
Trump gave a non-answer because he doesn't watch /tv/. That makes him the true patrician.
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>>63493587
CAN'T STUMP etc.
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>>63493966
THEY NEED TO GIT OUT AND GOOO HOME
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>>63493779
>>63493677
Complete and utter keks

How does this make you feel?
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I bet none of these people watch tv at all and are just told what to say by their campaign managers.
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>>63494006
*Indians
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trump is a complete retard
why would anybody vote for him
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>>63493779
How does that soy latte taste, faggot?
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>the SNL episode he appeared on

B A S E D
A
S
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>>63493774
>Criminal Minds
>good taste
>>>/facebook/
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>>63494035
Indians live in India. Americans live in America.
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>>63494070
Idiot. Indians live in Indiana.
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>>63494070
That's goddamn right and you curry-eaters better remember it.
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>>63494070
We call them Indians because we want to. Welcome to America
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>>63494038
America is filled with retards
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>>63494038
DUDE PISSING OFF FICTIONAL SJW CHARACTERS I MADE IN BY HEAD IS WORTH THE NEXT DRAFT LMAO
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>>63494038
He panders to the lowest common denominator like nobody has ever done
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>>63494035
edgemaster flex over here
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>>63494146
It seems like cheating desu. He knows his supporters will never fact-check anything he says, so he can say any populist bullshit he wants and never lose votes.
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>>63494123
>WORTH THE NEXT DRAFT
Trump isn't a warmongerer like Hillary or Jeb silly.
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>>63494038
memes. That's literally it. Oh, and that most Americans are pretty stupid.
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>>63494038
Who else is there to vote for?
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>>63494038
Pretty sure he's a literal genius desu desu

But he's real fuckin' good at pissing the political establishment off, that's real fuckin' based
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Sanders and Jeb are pretty good, but at least Cruz is pretty diverse.

>>63493666
Just gonna check these satan trips real quick.
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>>63494333
If he loses the republican nomination and goes independent he has a chance of destroying the party. If he get nominated and loses, I guarantee you that republicans will be fucked for a long time. If he wins, he'll get nothing done and continue being a retard which means the left will get more support. Either way we're fucked, but at least we have the memes right lad?
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>>63494006
I distinctly recall a group of people selling all of their land for anal beads
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>>63494241
>not a warmonger

Stop it. Trump is ready to set up a boxing match with Putin he's blowharding so bad.
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>>63494107
We also call them Indians because Columbus thought they were in India.
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>All the candidates favorite shows are currently airing

What a bunch of fucking plebeians? Not one of them choose Fargo or The Leftovers, that's just sad. Well, at least none of them went full-pander and said "Game of Thrones."
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>>63493587
>jeb bush

the fuck does that guy have to do with norway?
I hope he stays faaaar away from the awesome shit we got going on here
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>>63494038
>>63494115
>>63494123
>>63494146
>>63494294
this is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit
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>>63494406
The first two things you said are just retarded senpai, and the last thing you said also applies to Hillary and the left, except it doesn't actually because it's literally stupid in essence

I think you're the retard famm
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>>63494038
Who else would you have me vote for?
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>>63493587
Proof positive Ted Cruz is an actual sociopath. Picked all shows that feature/star sociopaths, except for Veep. Which was an obvious substitution for his actual choice, House of Cards.
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>>63494431
He's best friends with Putin you tard


Actual warmongers are the republican establishment who want to cvck you out of tax dollars
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>>63493587
>Bernie Sanders
>Modern Family
Oh, it shows Sanders.
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>>63494431
Putin just warned Trump there is an assassination plot against him. Literally best friends.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKH6PAoUuD0
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Trump tied with Bush
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>>63494485
>Some of the most popular normie shows that almost everyone watches
>But here is the real insidious reason he watches them

I don't know famm
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>>63493587
>>Ted Cruz
>Veep

based iannucci
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>>63494038
>>63494333
-Exactly, nobody's really going to vote for him(I sure wouldn't), but he's delighting the conservative base by forcing the media to cover everything he does including his "repulsive" policy proposals, Liberals don't know how to deal with him. They can't dismiss him, humiliate him or ignore him, they're having a collective attack of apoplexy. That's why he makes my day.
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https://youtu.be/_K0sRkvX4KE
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>>63494531
Literal autism
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Wow Jeb Bush has the best taste.

It's a shame Hillary is going to win because she's a cunt
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>yes goyim, trump is a dumb meme and you should vote for another GOP candidate
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>>63493587
>Clinton
Pleb
>Sanders
Uber Pleb
>Trump
lol does he even watch tv?
>Marco Rubio
plebiest pleb that ever pleb'd
>Ted Cruz
Shamelessly pandering to Reddit pleb
>Jeb Bush
Embarrassing
>Chris Christie
Normie non-tv plebshit
>Huckabee
DUDE REPUBLICANS LMAO
>Fiorina
Pleb that thinks she's Patrician

p sad overall.
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Why didn't Trump say The Apprentice?
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Trump has an interesting strategy. Just say something "outrageous", and the media won't stop talking about you. Keep doing this for months, and they basically keep you in the public consciousness, and you didn't have to spend a dime on any ads. Trump is not as dumb as people think he is. He is a really successful businessman after all, he knows what he is doing.
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>>63493807
This. Hers was the only answer that was related to her own political message
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>>63494827
Not sure that is his strategy honestly. He tells it like it is and if the kukmedia decide they want to call it outrageous and run programming about it everyday then so be it.
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>>63493966
>Irish are just happy to be there
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>>63494431
>liberal news comprehension
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>>63494465
>I'm 12 and I just discovered 4chan: The Post
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>>63494617
Litteral reddit
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>>63494907
>The russians r good boys dey didnu nuffin
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>>63493587

>hillary's favority show is madam secretary

real fucking original, why couldn't she give a real answer to show us she's a human being instead of that kind of bullshit

Ted Cruz's taste seems pretty good even though he's a prick. Bernie's answer is pretty generic but I actually believe it. The Donald is based as always.

Everyone else is pleb, though kudos for huckabee giving a meme answer, I figured he had no sense of humor being an ultra christian evangelical minister.
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>>63493587
>Hilary
Egotist
>Bernie
Queer
>Trump
Egotist
>Rubio
Panderer
>Cruz
Plebe but actually watches TV
>Jeb
WHAT THE FUCK, the Bush is the patrician? Damn.
>Christie
Plebe but sincere
>Huckabee
Out-of-touch panderer
>Fiorina
Patrician
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>>63494827
This is true but at the same time he's hemorrhaging voters every time he crosses another line. I was with him until the "ban Muslims from entering the country" thing, that's retardedly arbitrary and inflammatory.
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>>63494875
he's a false flag operation paid for by the zionist controlled jewish media that are going to discredit the republican party and male politicians, to get hillary in charge of the country
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>>63494931
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>>63494968
This is a lie, shill. His numbers are UP after ban all mudslimes.
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>>63494996
Sounds about right. But can we still kill all muslims under Hillary?
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>>63495036
of course, but it'll be done in a "fund israel and let them kill the muslims" way, with a side dish of "destroy all freedom and control the internet"
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>>63493779

Hang yourself, kek.
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>>63493587
This reads like a Conan O'Brien skit.
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>>63494996
I mean yeah that's certainly an interesting theory but you're out of your mind if you honestly don't think most americans actually WANT stricter borders, less sand niggers and the death of political correctness.
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>>63494588
>Exactly, nobody's really going to vote for him

Wrong, he's getting the nomination, and if there's any more terror, he's gonna be the next president.

>I sure wouldn't

Then you're a fucking kek that's sold out his people for a corrupt establishment or a socialist retard with no chance at election or even nomination.
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>this whole thread
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>>63494038
Well it's either him, Hillary or another fucking Bush. I can see why people would gravitate towards a shitty meme candidate when the serious choices are so godawful.
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>>63493587
>>Mike Huckabee
>Bill Maher

Wut? How is that possible?
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>>63494038
He's not retarded, he just knows he gets press by saying retarding things.
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>>63495315
Sarcasm
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>>63493779
I can't wait to vote for him
Maybe I'll vote more than once.
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>>63495342
I'd follow that man into hell and back
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>>63494038
>identifies a fixable problem that doesn't rely on other nations or uncontrollable elements
>sets a high initial standard and calls out every other politician for being a coward
>leaves open the possibility of a less draconian solution besides complete deportation, which he'll debut during the general election to appeal to undecided voters more
>always on the offensive, and nobody can stick him with anything
He's actually very good at what he does.
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>>63494038
you do realise that if he actually does anything terrible when he's president, you're welcome to take up arms and shoot him?
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>>63495419
Granted that I haven't voted in a while, but I don't think that's how it works.
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>>63493587
notice they didn't ask Rand Paul or he didn't respond probably because he doesn't watch tv and is too busy being good at his job
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>>63495419
>you're welcome
Not quite
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>>63494146
this but it's actually genius
he never once beleived a word he has said before he started his campaign
hell, he voted for Obama in 2012. He admits this. He was a normal business man and a moderate, self interested political thinker then he realized he had enough money to buy the best campaign strategists and he had the ego to actually do it
the absolute madman
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>>63494038

He's smarter than Bernie "I have no idea how money works" Sanders.
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>>63494146
HOPE AND CHANGE
Trump is the left's reckoning.
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>>63494146

>He panders to the lowest common denominator

No, that's Bernie.
Or did you think "free shit for you! free shit for you!" was pandering to anybody but retards, niggers and potheads?
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>>63494722
because they fired him
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>>63495501
trump is

god?
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>>63495342

I wish I could vote for this man twice.

Fuck it, if politics are going to be a bullshit reality show, let's pick the one who's most entertaining
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>>63494996
honestly I hope this is true because it's going to backfire so hard on her
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>>63493587
>>Jeb Bush
>Lilyhammer
It's funny that the blandest candidate would have the most obscure choice.
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>>63495552
>they fired him
>months after he quit to run for President
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>>63495532
Bernie hasn't gone bankrupt twice. Is that your idea of knowing how money works?
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>>63495459
No it's because no one cares about Rand :(
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>>63495570
Honestly I think Jeb would be the best choice.
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>>63495549
No.
He's talking about the "I'm too arrogant to stop sucking corporate cock" red necks
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>>63493587
>Madam Secretary
What a self-serving answer. Disingenuous cunt can't even pretend to be a real human being.
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LET'S
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>>63495575
>bankrupt twice
>came back twice
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>>63495575
everything you believe about money is wrong
Trump has never been bankrupt
Sanders is a socialist
>>63495590
he's getting the same treatment his father got
he was in 3rd place after the last debate
everything he says gets posted in times or the wallstreet journal where liberals read about it
fox ignores him
conservatives wrapped up in either Rubio or Fiorina ignore him because they believe lies like he's an isolationist or something
Trump supporters never cared about politics before Trump started running

it's a god damned mess
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And the Donald Trump dick riding starts again.
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>Hillary picks the show that Jew producers created specifically to convince people to vote for Hillary
SUBTLE
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>>63495684
SAVE AMERICA
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>>63493587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxyPQ4_Xeqc
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>>63495630
MAKE
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>>63495575

>Bernie hasn't gone bankrupt twice.

Because Bernie was never a success in the first place. You have to have actual money before a business-venture can fail.

Again, Trump knows how money works and how to generate it.
Bernie doesn't, and he will ruin this nation because of his own retarded leftist dogma.
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>>63495655
Don't worry, amigo. If you help build the wall, he'll probably let you stay.
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>>63495610

>"I'm too arrogant to stop sucking corporate cock" red necks

Not voting for other people to be arbitrarily taxed more is "sucking corporate cock".

This meme needs to die. Just like the boogeyman-complex Leftist faggots like you have over "corporations".
What's hilarious is that you're probably posting on an overpriced Apple product at a Starbucks.
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>>63495713
AMERICA
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>>63495560
Exactly. Obama had his chance to seriously make any fucking difference. It's all bullshit so let's have fun
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>>63495713

Liberals are so hilariously butthurt.

Literally all they have left is the Race Card. But they never get tired of playing it.
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>>63495720
you know his tax plan does pay for everything he talks about right? do you really think the richest nation in the world can't pay for public healthcare when all of europe can?
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>>63495713
>11 million illegal immigrants have no adverse effect on the economy
>unconditionally accepting refugees from a culturally backwards and intolerant region will have no downsides
I can't believe I live in a world where Trump is the smartest person running for president.
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>>63495782
well europe doesn't spend most of their gdp on WAR
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>>63495749
GREAT AGAIN
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>>63494665

IF anything Trump is the candidate most like Netanyahu

Of course, Israel doesn't want anyone else doing the exact same shit they do, to keep immigrants out Wall/Screenings etc
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>Mike Huckabee
Bill Maher
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>>63495792
something bernie is staunchly against. lets reduce that over inflated military budget and put it use on something that actually helps americans.
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>>63495792
nah, thats what mudslime housing projects and making sure they have everything for establishing sharia zones is for
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>>63495782

>you know his tax plan does pay for everything he talks about right?

Yeah, at tremendous expense to me and my paycheck.

Fat people and smokers can pay for their own medical expenses.
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>>63495713

So he's already reduced the left to screaming HITLER!!!!!1one

God almighty, he still has an entire year to prod them into further shrieking paroxysms of asspain and rectal devastation.

And then, hopefully, four years after that.
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>>63495853
hjahahaha fucking hell lad, was his arm stuck in an elbow pipe
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>>63495853
really, do you make 250,000 a year?
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>>63495744
>>63495549
Christ you're dumb
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>>63495776
>>63495787
>>63495870
>>63495713
lel, the funny thing is that Trump is the one actually looking good in that cartoon while the immigrants look like shit.
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>>63495720

Bernie was mayor of a town for 8 years.
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>>63495911

Best response Bernie-tards can come up with, huh?
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>>63495853
Well, if it isn't my old friend, Mr. McGreg
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>>63495917

And yet he STILL doesn't know how an economy works.
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>>63495917
I have over a thousand hours in Sim City 4
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I miss Mitt Romney, why can't we have him be in charge
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>>63495963
because he's a prick who sent jobs overseas
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>>63495713
why are those soldiers harassing hitler?
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>>63493587
what a bunch of plebs
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>>63495933
Why would I spend my time responding seriously to someone who literally has no idea what they're talking about? Anyone who honestly thinks Sanders' proposals are centered on "free money" are too ignorant to have a conversation -- and I mean 'ignorant' in the sense that you don't actually know how anything in Bernie's plan works. As someone else said, America is the richest nation in the world, by far, and Bernie's are centered around taxing the inordinately wealthy, not middle-class families like idiots like you seem to believe.
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>>63495713
No Mexicans, Muslims, or Chinese?
TRUMP 2016!!!!!!!
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>>63495963
I miss Nostradamus ;_;
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>>63496014

>no actual response
>just name-calling

Yep.
I can see why you're voting for Sanders.
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>>63495934
my sides
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fuck you, mike hucklebee

you ruined my night
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>>63493966
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>>63496045
You just called me a "Bernie-tard"... Please, at least TRY to not be hypocritical AND ignorant. At least try to learn, my man. I know you've avoided that this far into life, but I can promise it'll benefit you in one way or another and you'll be happy ya gave it a shot
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>>63496107
>he doesn't want to vote trump and have 8 years of the dankest of memes
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>>63493937
Hillary's is calculated. I'm sure she had a team of advisors come up with the answer for her.
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I wanted Trump to say Always Sunny. Damn.
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>>63496107

>You just called me a "Bernie-tard"

That post was more about me indicating you had no real argument.
Good job ignoring that. But then again Bernie-tards have pretty good experience ignoring facts.
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>>63494038
I'm not american but I'd vote for him based on the fact that he is hillarious and would piss a lot of people off.
The other ones are barely human crooks who would act out their neocon facist agenda while keeping up a smiley face.
Trump is a huge asshole and that's what makes him so great.
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>>63496123
The memes of his campaign are already too powerful for me. I think it's funny to think of Trump and Putin in a room together, because neither of them would ever concede and it'd be absurd. But Trump's dialog is getting dangerous and is stoking the basest instincts in America and making it dangerous for people who are Mexican or Muslim because of how much hate and intolerance he's fostering. I love me some memes, but not more than people's safety and the future of the country, desu senpai
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>>63496014
>Anyone who honestly thinks Sanders' proposals are centered on "free money" are too ignorant to have a conversation
anyone who seriously thinks that free education wont fuck our country sideways is retarded
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>>63493843
>Netflix
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>>63496162
...calling someone a Bernie-tard implies they're an idiot because of whom they support. Don't jump through hoops, and don't act like you've even provided any kind of argument for me to even refute in the first place. Here's what you said:

>>63495549
>Or did you think "free shit for you! free shit for you!" was pandering to anybody but retards, niggers and potheads?

>>63495744
>Not voting for other people to be arbitrarily taxed more is "sucking corporate cock".
>This meme needs to die. Just like the boogeyman-complex Leftist faggots like you have over "corporations".

In what world do you think you ever posited anything of substance? What argument have you made other than "hurr, Bernie supporters are dumb!"? And what have you used to support that "argument"? Hint: nothing. You seem to loosely think his policies are misguided, but you've said nothing about them or why they're bad.

How about this: make an argument, and I'll refute it, because you're clearly not a very intelligent or scrupulous dude, so lemme hear it, big guy
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>>63496204
Jump off a bridge you pussy
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>>63495870
biting the b8:
Bringing up Hitler is an overdone argument, but most times it's brought up in questions of government size or whatever. The idea of a Muslim database, ethnic and religious discrimination built into the law, has very little parallel in the west but Germany in the 1940s. Even outside of Hitler, the notion of this database is absurd; people don't like polygamy and child abuse, but no one has ever considered a Mormon database, because we sensibly know that making a broad assumption about them and putting it into law would be absurd.
On top of that, if the grand majority of us find the Prism Program so distasteful, why would you want the government leaning on one specific group of people even more, as far as surveillance is concerned?
Lastly, when Islamic extremists push so much for jihad and recruit so well based on perceived discrimination, how well do you think they would do when there is a real and definable discrimination going on?

Granted, essentially we're arguing an entirely hypothetical point, since Trump is unlikely to actually win, and is even less likely to actually implement it even if he did.
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>>63496228
So do you not realize that with publicly funded education, all the money people are paying privately for education, or the loans they're taking out, is now freed up, and they're not in debt? Instead, everyone (but by and the large the very wealthy) pays more taxes, but because they have paid those taxes, they're spending comparatively less money than they would have otherwise.

Many countries around the world have public universities. It's not impossible.
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>>63496204
>making it dangerous for people who are Mexican or Muslim

Really?

REALLY?
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>>63496313
argument number one:
>Bernie Sanders is a socialist
argument over. We don't need to rethink ideas that have failed every time since their implementation in the last century
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Trump is living, breathing proof that Liberals are outright triggered by facts, and they thusly have become completely out of control in our society.

Trump states that many illegal immigrants are criminals (i.e. a fact) and they have a negative effect on our nation, and scores of mouth-breathers lose their fucking minds.

They even actively try to censor him, like that one faggot politician trying to get him removed from SNL.

Liberals are a joke at this point when Donald fucking Trump is smarter and more in touch with reality than they are.
I can't wait for the next election. Liberals will probably be burning candidates at the stake for saying the Earth revolves around the sun.
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>>63496204
Not that anon, but you're mistaking Mexicans for Hispanics. Living on a majority Latino border town myself, pretty much everyone has said the same things trump has about illegals at one point or another. They're all trash, the only difference between him and us is he has a blond wig.
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>>63496383
>all the money people are paying privately for education, or the loans they're taking out, is now freed up
Jesus Christ you are fucking insane, delusional, and retarded
>Many countries around the world have public universities
and they all pay for it post graduation on a needs based basis
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>>63496358
>The idea of a Muslim database, ethnic and religious discrimination built into the law

Except Trump never said anything about any goddamn database, stop getting victimized by the media

>Reporter: Should there be a database system that tracks the Muslims here in this country?

>Trump: There should be a lot of systems, beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems. And today you can do it. But right now, we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall, and we cannot let what’s happening to this country happen any longer.

>Reporter: But that’s something your White House would like to implement?

>Trump: Oh, I would certainly implement that. Absolutely.

>Reporter: What do you think the effect of that would be? How would that work?

>Trump: It would stop people from coming in illegally. We have to stop people from coming into our country illegally.

It's pretty clear the reporter said "database" and Trump was talking about a wall
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>>63496204

>making it dangerous for people who are Mexican
or Muslim because of how much hate and intolerance he's fostering.

Oh, hey Tumblr.
I was wondering when your paranoid, delusional ass would show up.
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>>63496383

>Many countries around the world have public universities.

Yeah, and they typically fucking suck.
There's a reason people come from all over the world to attend American colleges.
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>>63496393
No country has ever been socialist, and Bernie's plans would not make America a socialist country. Sure, plenty of countries have MORE socialist paradigms than those found in America -- Scandinavia follows these kinds of models (and lots of other European countries) and is by many indicators in better shape than America -- but none are actually socialist.

Any actual arguments for me to refute, or is your gradeschool understanding of capitalism and socialism and communism can obviate any further discussion?
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>>63496475

>No country has ever been socialist

This shit again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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>Television and film
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>>63496475
>No country has ever been socialist
I literally will not read beyond this because you are massively and insanely retarded
Bernie has openly pushed for socialist systems in this country including basic income, $15 minimum wage, and free education through college
I'm honestly surprised he isn't for the collectivization of farming
captcha:2015
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>>63496453
>Yeah, and they typically fucking suck.
No, not really.

>>63496421
>Jesus Christ you are fucking insane, delusional, and retarded
How so? If I no longer have to spend $20000 paying for private university and instead just pay, hypothetically, $4000 more in taxes, my math suggests I now have $16000 more than I would have had I paid for private university. Am I misinterpreting the situation?
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>>63496358
>if the grand majority of us find the Prism Program so distasteful, why would you want the government leaning on one specific group of people even more, as far as surveillance is concerned?

Lol, and you think surveillance will be curtailed with current levels of Muslim migration?
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>Ben Carson
Spongebob Squarepants
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>>63496403
gimme some numbers, gimme some charts,
(and not ones from the Heritage foundation,) and don't make the argument that they're criminals because they're illegal immigrants. You're saying people are getting triggered by facts, but you don't establish anything properly as fact.
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>>63496512
>complaining about offtopic shit on a board that is 70% maymays
wew lad
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>>63496526
Christ, raising the minimum wage and using more tax dollars to subsidize public college isn't socialism.

>>63496499
This isn't a no true Scotsman, because, LITERALLY, no country has had a socialist economy. In which countries have/had the means of production been in the hands of people rather than in private citizens/entities?
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>>63496531
>Am I misinterpreting the situation?
YES
your solution LITERALLY involves things getting cheaper and money being put in your pocket at no expense. That's not how it fucking works. And don't say that price controls will help. I mean holy shit. Take econ 101 for christs sake.
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>>63496544
>gimme some numbers, gimme some charts,

And when anyone does you cunts just write them off with "le /pol/ charts XD".
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>>63496593
You literally don't know what socialism is. Both reponses in your post demonstrate this
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>>63493587
Ted has that lit taste imo
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You realise Trump is going to be the next president right? And he will actually get shit done.


>MFW he ammends the constitution after 2 terms to prolong his stay in office
>MFW hes your dictator for a solid 2 decades before his son takes over
>MFW sheev sheev sheev sheev sheev sheev
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>>63496499
That's not a no true Scotsman fallacy. If a country operates as a dictatorship under the guise of a communist regime then it isn't a fallacy to say that communism as it is intended has never been implemented in a country.

Although I do agree that communism is not implementable.
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>>63496611
lol okay bb, if you wanna enlighten me do so, unless you're one of those no-argument "I don't wanna spoonfeed" dummies

>>63496596
The tax dollars are the expense. I'm not implying that what was previously a $20000 college only costs $4000 a person attending that university; I'm saying that by EVERYONE paying $4000, regardless of whether they or their kids' are going to college, then college is then affordable to the people who need to go to it. This is literally how innumerable tax-funded programs work. If you make 50000 a year, then like $36 of your total income ends up going to welfare, but that doesn't mean that it now only takes $36 to provide someone welfare -- it means that the aggregate of people paying that much money (and who aren't on welfare) are able to adequately fund it
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>>63496428
I'm familiar with the quote already, I've heard the whole thing, and I'm not "victimized by the media" Remember that I've said very specifically that even if Trump did win, he would be unlikely to ever implement it. My argument is directed at the people who support the idea of a database, who definitely do exist among Trump's supporters.
Trump has based much of his campaign on vagueness, and avoiding denial of basically any hypothetical platforms on muslims brought to him, never drawing any sort of line in regards to what would be too stringent, specifically because it plays to a certain part of his base. When you say "beyond" databases, that vaguely includes it, and Trump is counting on that. If you genuinely support Trump and don't believe he won't implement databases, can't you accept there are many people who support him and have fallen to the impression created by Trump that he will?
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>>63494069

Criminal Minds is quality /JetBluecore/, and you know a guy like Ted Cruz is in planes all the time.
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>>63496596
>your solution LITERALLY involves things getting cheaper and money being put in your pocket at no expense
Not him but no it doesn't. He's suggesting that the costs should be spread across the taxpayers. Just like road maintenance is spread across all taxpayers regardless of whether they have a car. Or how welfare costs are spread across the taxpayers whether they are on welfare or not.
Looks like you should be taking an economics class. Or basic maths. Or just common sense faggot.
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>>63495119
>ignorant
>socialist
Smile when you say that pardner.
I'll just flip a coin in the voting booth. Who knows, I might surprise you. Besides, don't be surprised if there's an attempt on his life by an Arthur Bremer wannabe. He better pick his running mate NOW.
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>>63496797
>EVERYONE paying $4000, regardless of whether they or their kids' are going to college, then college is then affordable to the people who need to go to it
that is both literally evil, economically unnecessary, and practically incapable of producing a benefit
seriously, take even the most basic course on econmics your community college offers. Or hell, a free online course from Yale or something. Forced collective funding never produces good. Competition is the only thing that can drive down costs.
Do you know why college is so expensive now? It is singularly due to loan subsidization. More subsadizing cannot fix the problem
I bet you also complain that so many jobs require experience and internships dont pay
this is due to the over saturation of degrees in our country and the institution of a minimum wage

there, you have been gracefully spoonfed
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>>63496627
We can only hope.
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>>63496872
I'm that guy, so thank you. People have problems with all of these "socialist" policies but don't know how they work and don't even realize that dozens of them already exist that they're perfectly fine with it.
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>>63496600
I won't deny the existence of /pol/ charts, specifically because they get their numbers from places like the Heritage Foundation, like I mentioned. But I asked you to provide one nonetheless. You're being evasive.
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>>63493849
he's a semi-regular guest tho
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They also asked Barack and Michelle.

Michelle Obama - Black-ish
Barack Obama - The Knick
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>>63493587
Chris Christie and Carly Fiorina are the only ones with good taste.
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>>63496899
Lol, this is such a major oversimplification.

Also, costs wouldn't need to be driven down because it would just be paid for by everybody collectively contributing an amount proportionate to their wealth in a way that is fair. I was hypothetically saying everyone would pay 4000, but in reality, this person would pay 50, this person would pay 1800, this one 5000, this one 14000 -- it's variable.

>Forced collective funding never produces good.
No, there are plenty of publicly funded programs that are good. Are you against free public education up through high school? If a high school degree is now useless in the global market, why wouldn't you want more people to go to college and be able to participate more meaningfully in the global economy? The current system is very clearly not working; we can implement a system similar to many countries in Europe, there's no reason not to

And hirers being stingy is not merely because of the oversaturation of degrees (which isn't even that much of a thing) -- a college degree in today's market is the equivalent of a high school degree fifty years ago. The difference is that baby boomers wrecked the economy. And a minimum wage has nothing to do with a tech company not wanting to hire me out of college
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Obama, he's a fan of The Wire.
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>>63496899
>that is both literally evil, economically unnecessary, and practically incapable of producing a benefit
Why? Most European universities are heavily subsidized by their governments, bringing down the cost to students, making higher education more widely available (i.e. increasing the educated workforce [usually]), which in turn leads to significant economic benefits to the country. These subsidies in turn are paid by the taxpayer.

>Competition is the only thing that can drive down costs.
How would you create competition in the US university system then? They have literally no incentive to decrease their costs. University tuition costs in the US increase well over inflation every single year. Why? Because they can, because there are way fewer spaces than applicants. And as anyone who knows even basic economics would understand, when there is much more demand than supply, the price goes up.

>It is singularly due to loan subsidization. More subsidizing cannot fix the problem

You're confusing the two types of subsidization. One is indirectly supported by the government which allows universities to overcharge because they know the loans won't default, and no matter what (even after the 25 year limit) they will more than recoup the money charged. The other would be a system wherein the government gives universities a stipend per student, then caps the fees the university can charge the student. That way they university makes money but isn't operated like a business, and instead operates as what it is meant to be, a center for learning to benefit the nation as a whole economically, culturally, politically etc in the future.

Note I'm only referring to public universities, private universities can do whatever they want.
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Well, this thread went downhill fast, didn't it?
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>>63497143
Like him or hate him this is objective fact, Obama actually has pretty patrician tastes gor a politician
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>>63495814
the American refugee acceptance policy should be conducted in direct representative size to the Israeli refugee acceptance policy, they have 10 million to our 300 million so we should accept 30 refugees to every 1 Israel accepts. They're in the region, have very secure borders to protect these poor souls and god knows they have the money to house them thanks to the cherry aid deal they just milked out of the current administration.
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>>63495342
LMAO no chill
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>>63495315
Republicans tend to be very pro Israel ;)
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>>63496593
>In which countries have/had the means of production been in the hands of people rather than in private citizens/entities?

Are you retarded?
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You guys do know that this never actually happened, right? OP made those up. It's bait.
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>>63496593
>LITERALLY, no country has had a socialist economy
You're mixing up 2 memes here underage redditfriend.
It goes "no communism has ever been tried" and is equally wrong. Pic up a book senpai
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>>63493587
Pretty funny that Cruz's show is Veep because that is what he will end up being. Bush/Cruz or Trump/Cruz.

>Fiorina

Did most of these people think this was a joke and they were supposed to say a show that had a character that was literally them? Hillary gave the same kind of answer.
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At this stage of the election season, we're past the point of a dark horse party candidate coming along. That means that this election is going to be either Rubio/Hillary, Trump/Hillary or Jeb/Hillary in descending order of likeliness.

Every possible scenario that can be played out right now comes down to choosing between a different form of a rehash of a completely failed recent administration, Hillary and Rubio share the practiced rhetoric/inept hawkishness/corporate shill mixture that doomed obama, Trump has the dangerous unpredictability and retard whisperer quality that got bush elected twice and Jeb has the worst qualities of both plus a dash of embarrassing goofy autism.

In this picture you see Jim Webb leaving the press conference where he announced his withdrawal from the democratic primary due to being squeezed out of media events and fundraising by hillary's stranglehold on the dnc. This was the exact moment I gave up the last bit of hope I had for the future of american politics. Go watch this press conference and then look at this picture and ask yourself if you honestly give a shit what happens anymore, because after seeing a candidate this good get completely raped by the media and party at every turn and then have to dignify taking questions from fucking buzzfeed 'journalists' at his withdrawal announcement, I don't.
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>>63498448
God you're retarded
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>>63498537
>plus a dash of embarrassing goofy autism
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>>63497203
>That way they university makes money but isn't operated like a business

But university absolutely should operate like a businness. Including placing significant cost on the student (either in the form of straight payment of putting serious work to ace exams and get grants). Merely having a "center of learning" doesn't benefit a nation in the slightest, on the contrary, the example of USSR and post-USSR Russia proves beyond the shadow of doubt that overtly easy access to education produces three results - devaluing education itself, making a significant portion of population delay contributing anything productive to the society and creating a whole class of people with worthless degrees who feel entitled to jobs and serve as breeding ground for discontent.

To a lesser degree the same tendencies can be currently observed in US and Europe. They are observed to a lesser degree not because Yanks and Euros are intristically better people, but because the system is socialist to a lesser degree.
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>>63493587
Jesus that's what America has to pick from? Shit they are fucked. At least here in Canada we get legal weed so I can finally smoke with my parents.
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who even cares at this point, at least trump is entertaining
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>>63498825
>American citizens want to royally fuck themselves into oblivion
Stay classy America
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>>63493587

>mfw Jeb Bush has the best taste
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>>63498873
this country is already heading towards oblivion, might as well speed it up
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>>63498766
>At least here in Canada we get legal weed so I can finally smoke with my parents.
You will also get legal sharia zones and dress codes to go with them, habib.
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>>63498766
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>>63493587
>Hillary Clinton
>Madam Secretary

This like reading fanfiction about yourself.
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>>63494038
>self funded
>not influenced by anybody
>speaks his mind
>firm and confident
>media hates him cause they cant control him

but hillary clinton is perfectly acceptable, an actual fucking snake of a woman.
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>>63498899
>sharia zones
https://np.reddit.com/r/PoliticalVideo/comments/3vxy3l/trump_dares_morning_host_to_go_to_break_guess/cxrsxcw
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>>63498903
I was so embarrassed when he said that. Worst part is that anyone I talked to thought it was a cool progressive statement instead of a retarded fallacy.
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>>63493779
>took the bait
my nigga Trump does it again
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>>63497142
>No, there are plenty of publicly funded programs that are good. Are you against free public education up through high school?

Modern high school do not and, as it seems, often are not even expected to provide education beyond basic literacy. In function, and, I'd argue, in purpose, they are daycare centers. Except hideously ineffective and with atmosphere that often amounts to prison lite. Once upon a time they had a useful function as indoctrination centers as well, but currently they do not and are not expected to instill any useful values.

High school, in just about any country I'm familiar with, is a terrible, terrible example of a good public program.

>If a high school degree is now useless in the global market, why wouldn't you want more people to go to college and be able to participate more meaningfully in the global economy?

Because that will make a college degree just as useless as a high school degree currently is. For the same reason - lowering the plank of effort (and talent, but for most of the population and for most positions it is the matter of effort) needed to get.
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>>63498903
>>63498899
So it will be the UK 2.0 only weed being legal?
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>>63493744
maher is an apologist for imperial power
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>>63495342
that would require leaving the house
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>>63499177
Nah, nothing can beat the mess that is the UK eventhough the swekeks and krauts are giving them a run for their money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVOSHnksqAQ
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>>63496475
>(and lots of other European countries) and is by many indicators in better shape than America

These countries are dependents of America. At the very least, they let it shoulder all the responsibilities related to maintaining security of the international market, to which they owe their wealth.
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>>63499202
absolute patrician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upC8pX3RY0A
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>>63495782
>when all of europe can?

no we can't, lol. the NHS has a £30bn black hole in it. it's finances are unsalvageable. it's currently being floated on debt which is being paid for in exchange for the future of our nation's young.
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>>63493587
>Hillary Clinton
Madam Secretary
0/10

>Bernie Sanders
Modern Family
3/10

>Donald Trump
The SNL episode he appeared on
narcissist/10

>Marco Rubio
The Walking Dead
4/10

>Ted Cruz
Criminal Minds, Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and Veep
8/10

>Jeb Bush
Lilyhammer
10/10

>Chris Christie
Football Life
7/10

>Mike Huckabee
Bill Maher
5/10

>Carly Fiorina
House of Cards
2/10
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>>63493843
4 shows? Come on. I work 60 hours a week and I follow a lot more than 4 shows. The shows he lists didnt even run concurrently. Youre just looking for something to dig at because you hate republicans. You people are utterly deranged by hatred.
Obama claims to watch ESPN for hours a day.
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Which candidate has the most patrician memes?
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>>63493774
>literal meme shows
>great taste
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