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>Idris Elba playing Roland of Gilead

So when does the internet go into meltdown mode?
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why would there be a meltdown?
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>>63490542
because clint eastwood isn't a coloured person.
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Shitty book perfect for a shit coloured actor.
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Elba can't play Roland. He is a phenomonal actor but the role requires Roland to be white so Odetta Holmes can mistrust him due to the fact of him being white. Without that dicotomy the series can't highlight how hate+racism is a monster in human form as the book did brilliantly.
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>>63490542
Roland ain't no nigger.
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>>63490885
you say this in jest but in the last book he does bone a married woman so this would actually be reality
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>>63490457
Role made for clint eastwood but alas.
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Im more pissed off they casted a britkek to be honest. what does a man who sucks muslim cocks and lets pakis fuck their wives and daughters know about cowboys?
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>>63490457
Thank you, Black Jesus!
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I wouldn't be pissed about the skin. I'd be more pissed about the accent.
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>>63490849
This. There's major themes of racism in the book coming from Odetta. It wouldn't work with a white Roland.
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>>63490849
Its fine, Odetta is just one of the many integral characters that will be written out or replaced with other, more ethnically and sexually diverse, characters. King, like Martin, is totally on board because he loves attention and money.

Fuck everything.
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Idris Elba is pretty badass but I can't picture him playing Roland. Terrible casting if so
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>>63490951
If you were them, would you turn down millions of dollars because you don't want a darkie in your story?
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>>63490849
This is true unless they completely rewrite her, but let's be honest the series is straight up trash after the 4th book. The last 3 are literally some of the worst books I have ever read.

>lightsabers
>snitches
>stephen king literally self inserting
>the main villain is an old man who goes REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>63490816
agreed actually elba is an alright actor though
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>>63491002
No, I'd turn it down because THATS NOT HOW I FUCKING WROTE IT.
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>Idris vs McCoughnahey

Damn that sounds epic

Throw Fass or Gosling somewhere in there and this sounds like the best movie ever made

>>63490941
>>63491034
>>63490849
No movie is a 1:1 adaption so who gives a shit
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>>63491048
I'm >>63490935
I think he'd be a good choice, actually. It's just the accent. Can he do American?
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Hopefully they cast Idris Elba for Geralt in the new Witcher film.
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>>63491064

Fassbender could probably play Roland
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>>63491119
>wanting Memebender in another fucking movie
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>>63491098
He is African-American British
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>>63491064
Kill yourself imdb movie buff
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They are getting Cumberbatch for Blaine the Train, aren't they?
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>>63491007
>the main villain is an old man who goes REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

That last book started out so promising too. I really thought King had a chance to redeem himself. How wrong I was.
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surprisingly, I'd like to see this.
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Who cares? The series is shit anyway. King crapped out the final books because he was worried his magnum opus would never be finished after getting hit by that van. Fucking making himself a character, and don't get me started on what he did to Flagg. Yeah, build up Flagg as the ultimate bad guy over the course of his ENITRE LIFE'S WORK just to kill him off to show bad ass Mordred is. Only thing more bullshit was that ending. All those years for THAT? Series is shit. Dadachoke on my dick, King, you hack.
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>>63490457
all media and entertainment is dead to me now.
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Please Fucking stop!
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Blaine?
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>>63491197
oh yeah, I forgot to say
>The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.
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>>63491158
>handsome black man with British accent

why are my panties wet. why
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>>63491048
It wouldn't matter because Roland isn't black. Have you been following the thread? It throws several subplots into the wood chipper. Not to mention fuck niggers.
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>>63490457
As long as Shia LaBased is Eddie
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yeah lots of black people, including Elba, have striking blue eyes like Roland
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>>63490457
Stunt Casting.They're literally just doing it solely for the controversy. They saw how pissed off people got over the idea of Elba being James Bond and they're trying to get similiar attention by casting him to play another white character in the hopes of causing a backlash from Dark Tower nerds.

I mean, fucking nobody would read the series and think "Idris Elba" for Roland. He's described on at least a dozen occasions as looking like Clint Eastwood and like>>63490849 mentioned his race actually matters to the story. Where does this dumb meme of Elba being the world's greatest actor even come from? He's good but the way people suck his dick and act like he's perfect for every role in existence is so bizzare. It's terrible casting but anyone who points it out will just be labelled a racist.
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>>63491182
>>63491219
>fucking normies get away from my dark tower
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>63491243
because the surgery hasn't fully healed yet you tranny abomination
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>>63491248
>fuck niggers

That's what white women are doing right now.
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>>63490457
>Idris Elba is in early talks
>in early talks
>talks
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well i think they should turn Odetta into a white woman and then they can highlight how bad racism is by showing how everybody is against an interracial relationship.

pic related would be perfect as odetta.
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>>63491230
First one of you to riddle me gets to stay on me.
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More like the Big Black Tower, am I right?
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>>63491219
>tfw king wrote in the last half to stop reading if you wanted a good ending

I should have listened to him because that was some retarded shit, I swear he went back on the wagon for the last half.
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>>63491327
lol cheeky cunt
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so long as the keep eddie dean as from Italian heritage im fine.
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I'm a big fan of some SK books but man Dark Tower was not for me at all. I really fucking hate alternate universe stuff I guess
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>>63491363

REEEEEEE
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>non-white gets cast as white character
>4chan goes apeshit about muh SJWs
>white gets cast as a non-white character
>SJWs goes apeshit about muh white washing

I really wish this identity politics shit would fuck off
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>>63491374
>I swear he went back on the wagon for the last half.

Wasn't it vicodin?
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>>63491400
Italians are mudblood niggers scarce one step about an Arab (likely part Arab, kek). Their lineage is garbage
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>>63491374

I should have listened too, anon. I know. And if he were back on the powder, the ending would have been good.
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>>63491414
What does "REEEEE" even mean? Is that just a meaningless meme or what
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>>63491428
nigger nigger chicken dinner amiright?
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>>63491367
Tell me about Balazar, why does he want the rose?
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Fuck those faggots.

Who's playing Oy?
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>>63491243
He's not that handsome
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>>63491457
Here's where REE originated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKPdNvH800
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>>63491428
that's one miserable looking nigger what's his beef anyways? they're not my people but he just looks down right miserable. i'd buy him a beer or ten. fuck. the man looks sad.
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>>63490457
I like Idris Elba but Roland is white. and fuck that SJW faggot Stephen King.
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>>63491479
He's suave as fuck f/am
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>>63491448
Probably explains why he bought the van off the guy that hit him on the first anniversary since the accident and destroyed it with a sledgehammer, I like the way he thinks though.
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>>63491543
>f/am
>he dodges fun filters to meme

end your existence
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>>63491503
He's married to a beautiful blonde porn star and that pic is from a documentary where he was asked how he feels about her career and he said he's "Ecstatic and elated"
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>>63491503
It's a classic Louis Theroux docudrama. That guys gf is Kagney Linn Karter the pornstar, she just did a scene where 5 dudes creamed her face and she's forcing him to admit how ecstatic and elated he is that her doing that scene pays for their comfy lifestyle.
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>>63491048
hey shit head i didn't say he would be wrong for the part. i think elba is a great actor, i think it
will be funny to see him act awkward
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>>63491476
3D Oy is going to look so fucking stupid, even the drawings in the books don't do him justice.
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>>63491543
To be honest, not really senpai. He's one of those "handsome" token blacks that people include because it would be sad to leave out black people from a beautiful people's list. Most of his appeal is in his pity. "See, black people can look good too!" He only looks good because he's black
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>>63491496
This just fucking blew my motherfucking mind man. ALL THIS TIME, the Pepe meme actually was real? It really does make a REEEEE sound? I'm showing that video to my little sister. Thanks man.
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I'm comfortable with this.
As much as I normally dislike black people in general, I enjoy seeing him in movies.
He carries himself very well, and doesn't use any of that retarded 'gangsta' language.
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>>63491450
Got no clue what youre on about.
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>>63490457
ATTENTION: THE DARK TOWER SERIES IS REALLY OVERRATED AND ADMITTEDLY WRITTEN OFF THE CUFF

WHO CARES
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>>63491629
>Implying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwEYIjhZNnY

Look at these wet white cunts
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>>63491219
>Dadachoke on my dick
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>>63491219
>dadachoke...
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>>63491644
Idris is an actual cool guy, not a ghetto stupid nigga. I guess I'm also okay with him being Roland.
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>>63490849
Good point. I guess they're gonna throw that whole arc out the window.
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>>63490951
The sjws would complain endlessly about Detta.
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>>63491219
basically this. the series loses any sense of coherence after wizard and glass, which wasn't a story that needed a whole book anyway
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>>63491503

>used to be like this nigga right here
>don't care about pornstars so long I can fap
>watched montae's story
>waifu'd a whore
>ultimate kek
>laughinghard.jpg
>loved his waifu so much wanted to help on her work
>his scene was cut at the final release
>stopped laughing, tears stream down my eyes, got angry
>went outside and smoked while tears streaming down my eyes thinking about life
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The Black Man fled across the cotton field, and the Man in the White Hood followed.
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>>63491838
Obviously Odetta/Detta needs to be a trans otherkin headmate.
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>>63491898
>>63491603
So did he watch his girl get creamed? What is the documentary called?
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>>63491363
Makes sense considering the type of white women who lust for nigger dick.
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>>63491327
thank god i don't live in a shithole/america.
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>>63491476
peter dinklage
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>>63491476

Anna Kendrick.
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>>63492399
in a fursuit obviusly http://www.nospoiler.com/y/t-NrvnoD8zE
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Timothy Olyphant would be awesome to play him, not Idris.
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>>63490457
Can we all at least agree taht McConaughey is a great casting choice here?
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For fucks sake, diversity ruins yet another potentially great adaption
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So I just started the fourth book and they killed Blaine. How much dumber does the series get from here?
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>>63493002

Beyond retarded. Seriously, just stop now. You've read the best the series has to offer at this point. Further reading will only anger you.
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>>63493062
Please, Im liking book 5 so far, the interactions and the story of the priest are all goodshit if you ask me.
My friend told me that he really struggled with book 5 but im enjoying it.

Not nearly as much as I enjoyed book 3 of course.
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>>63493162

Wolves of the Calla still has some quality, but let's be honest. It's all downhill from here.
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>>63493062

Well sadly I have no choice since I can't leave a series unfinished. Oh well.
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>>63490849
Odetta will just be MtF
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Who cares about Dark Tower after King ruined the series?
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>>63493319

It's understandable, anon. Same thing happened to all of us. Hell, King himself warned everyone to stop reading in book 7, and none of us listened.
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I thought McConaughey was going to play Randall Flagg in a TV series of The Stand, not Dark Tower.
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>>63493002
Stop now.

4 is a boring western and 5-7 is essentially one rushed, badly written book
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>>63493514

It's the same character, so that would actually work and be pretty cool if he played Flagg in both. Hell, put him in makeup even and Give me Eyes of the Dragon finally.
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>>63491136
>being a fucking nigger who should end himself now
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>>63491898
thanks for the heads up. after what i just saw...yeah..that's some really depressing shit right there. thanks for that. got a cold but i need a smoke or a drink or something. fuck me.
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>>63493516
Seriously not liking 4 is pleb as fuck. It's literally one of the best, with 1 being the greatest.
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Can someone give a rundown of what dark tower is about?
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>>63493825
You should really just read them. The younger you are, the better it will be.
I still love the whole thing, but I've had it with me for a long time.
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>>63493825
Its a story about how patriarchy is the ruling force in the universe with the Dark Tower symbolising the male phallic instrument of dominance and one righteous mans quest to destroy it to usher in the golden age of true equality.
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>>63493884
literally a worthless post. not what i asked
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>>63493825

The last gunslinger is looking for a man.
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>>63493932
Based. I always wanted to see Idris in more action/badass roles. He has done enough talky talky shit
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>>63493825

King's attempt to make his Lord of the Rings. He wanted The Dark Tower series to be his masterpiece. Departs for King's usual horror, but in The Dark Tower King lays down the foundation for the shared universes that connect most of his other books together. Roland is the last gunslinger, and he's hunting The Man in Black. That's all you need to know.
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>>63493766
How is it the best? 90% of it is boring desert town dross and it's essentially one giant reference to westerns, a huge digression from the grand scope and imagination of the first three.

King's vision of a reality-ravaged wasteland is the strongest element of the entire series and it's swapped in favor of fucking teen romance
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>>63490457
>meltdown
>implying

I don't know if neo/tv/ has been completely /pol/arized but I'd watch a biopic of Hitler with Idris Elba in the starring role if it came down to it.
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>>63490849
They make Odetta white and have her character arc be about her learning how cool black people are.
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>>63494208
Basically Ronald McDonald fucks the white out of her and she becomes transblack.
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"I don't know why people are giving answers as to why Idris can't play Roland other than the character is white and he is not. The "uuhhgh i don thiink he got the temperament or mannerisms yadda yadda" is horseshit he's an actor and it's his profession to transform and adapt into a new character. In my opinion I don't give a fuck, who plays him as long as he is a fine actor and can convey emotions. I don't plan on remembering actors, I plan on remembering stories. It's a movie, move on with your life."
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>>63494354

Because there is an important racial dynamic between him and Odetta, who is very racist and fears him because he is white.

It detracts from the story.
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>>63494405
>implying people of color can be racist
King wrote this ages ago when people were bigoted, obviously he projected his own fears onto her, so she'll be white and fear Ronald because he's black.
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>>63493766
Yep. 1-4-7>>2-3-5-6
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>>63494405
that is the only legitimate objection i've heard, congrats, which can obviously be reversed raciallly if need be
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>>63494540

Nah
3>1>2>4>7>4.5>5>6
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>>63494582

>Cast a white actor as a black character

Oh sure, I can see that going over REALLY well.
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>>63494846
Why don't they just make Roland Hutu and Odetta Tutsi?
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>>63494904

Because it makes sense for a Tutsi to live in 1950s New York?
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>>63494846
i don't have an inferiority complex and i;m not retarded enough to think movies have an affect on my life, that is for sheep to worry about. I like actors, good actors, i like god stories, evrything else, is politics.
>ffs hurry up Armageddon
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>>63494919
Why New York and not Kigali?
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I'm reading the Wolves of Calla now...

Does the series really get that bad?
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>>63494978
yes
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>>63490457
>Elba as Roland
>Mcconaughey as Flagg

....I'm willing too look past it from the sheer level of talent
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>>63494978
people are just overreacting. the rest of the series was alright.
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>>63494972

Because you're not even adapting the book at that point.
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so, more blackwashing...
At this point pushing their agenda is not news anymore.
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>>63492287
It starts here. Then it will slowly migrate that way....
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>>63494978
it gets way fucking worse
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>>63494978
6. book is pretty mediocre and forgetable. 7 is really epic imo.
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>>63494978
there are literally 3 moments of note in the entire series from that point forward, read at your own peril

overall it is alright and above par to most stories but considering the scope and scale King set up he failed to deliver, that ending though
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>>63494978

You have no idea. Just read through the entire thread if you don't believe us.
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So who would /tv/ cast for Roland?
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Ruined
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>>63496028
80s Clint Eastwood.
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>>63494978

Wolves is awful, one of the worst books I've ever finished

6, SoS, is actually really good, intense, fast paced, and sets the stage for a grand finale where anything can happen

7 is awful, long winded and repetitive. It spends the first 400 pages undoing the last 5 pages of book 6. Although the very end is great to read, just knowing how far you've come.
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Oh god, it's getting released in January, RIP.
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>>63490951
you can't be more "diverse" than susanna

>cripple
>nigger
>mental illness

i thought "cross sectional" feminists or whatever loved championing for this kind of shit
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>>63495956
Power rankings:

1) Guy Pearce
2) Michael Fassbender
3) Matthew McCountaheys
4) Thomas Jane
5) Timothy Olyphant
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this is pretty bad news desu senpai
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I hope they make Odetta white to keep up with the theme and then the usual pussies bitch about whitewashing and racist themes. The salt will be glorious. This is on track, tbqh friends.
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both casting choices are fucking retarded tbqh
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>>63490915
Clint's got a son that looks just like him.
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I want to get off this hebbies wild ride.

Why the fuck did trump have to say he would kick all the muslims out? He was so fucking close too.

god fucking dammit
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>>63496318
>1) Guy Pearce
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>>63496400
>he would kick all the muslims out
I thought he just wouldn't let any more in
why do you liberals always lie
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>>63490457
Hes a great actor but im getting tired of him being shoehorned itno everything
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>>63490457

>let's shoehorn that one good black actor into everything
>we're so progressive
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>>63491048
What if...WHAT IF you actually went back to reddit?
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It just makes no sense. There are multiple references in the books to how Roland is white. There are multiple relatively important subplots that rely on him being white. Why the fuck would you cast a black man in that role and have to redo the story?

>McConaughey had been offered the role of Roland several weeks ago
This casting would be just as bad, just for different reasons
>but found himself drawn to the Man in Black upon reading the script.
And this is no better.

Idra could be the Man in Black - not sure if he's right to play Flagg from a demeanor standpoint, but it doesn't fuck anything up plot-wise and he's a decent actor so maybe he could pull it off.

This is just dumb.
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>>63494970
SUSAAAAAN ;_;
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>>63496480
>There are multiple relatively important subplots that rely on him being white
Isnt it just the Odetta stuff?
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>>63496619
The flashback book had some racial stuff to if I remember right.

And when he went to New York
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>>63496318
Scott Eastwood?
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>>63490457
>>63490457

Needed to be a TV series.
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Oh god this would be amazing. /pol/'s butthurt would be off the charts.
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>>63496660

Current rumors are it will be three movies with 2 seasons of a TV show, one each in between the releases of the movies.
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>>63496743
Given the success rate of King books getting adapted to film/television, this has about a 10% shot at being decent
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>>63491729

In the still image he's making the Jaden Smith squish face
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>>63496660
his last tv series was atrocious
my expectations are low
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>>63490457
For what reason?
Hes a fuckining overated actor fir christ sake. The spaniard would if fit the role much better.
I loved the books back in highschool. There wernt even many black people in Gilead in the first place execpt for the cook that got fuged. The lore is dead. It really comes to show that sjw cultural enrichment ruins everything.
Im so fucking triggered now.
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>>63495136
7 had the shittiest villians
Walter goes put like a bitch
Mordrid gets fucked over by Oy
Red King gets wiped out in exitence by some autist child
Shit even the fucking Train or Tick Tock wete more intimidating
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>>63496758
Stand By Me
The Shining
IT
Pet cemetery

You have such pleb taste if you don't like these films
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>>63497147

>IT
>Good

Go watch it again. It's shit.
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>>63497147
IT really isn't as good as you remember it.

And like I said, ~10%. He's had a LOT of adaptations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_adaptations_of_works_by_Stephen_King
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>>63497164
>this not a great scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr32uXnxM24
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>>63490849

Why would they even had her? Her character was shit. That cringeworthy fucking dialogue...
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Anyone else kept track of that numbers shit (3,19 etc) and later found out it meant nothing at all?
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>>63494978
I literally stopped reading books because of the last novel. I am not exaggerating.
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>>63497259
King was hit by a car on the 19th
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>>63497263

Why didn't you stop at Wizards and Glass?
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first Bond, then Roland

who's next? King Arthur? Hitler?
why are directors and producers seriously considering casting black people solely because they're black?
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>>63497294
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>>63497363

Because you will talk about it thus giving them free advertising.
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>>63497363

They're super progressive.

Check your privilege shitlord.
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>>63496656
Waiting to watch him in that new western with Walton Goggins, Diablo, before I make any judgements. Still won't be better than Pearce because he's too young.
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>>63497356
No I mean specifically the ending. Because I hit that, and sat there, and just loudly said "what the fuck", and I threw the book at my trashcan. All that for fucking nothing.

I wish King had died in that accident.
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>>63497356
Wizards and Glass was a decent story though. It added very little to the Dark Tower narrative, but on it's own it wasn't bad
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>>63497202
Nice cherrypicking. Let me guess, next you'll link KISS ME FAT BOY KEK.
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daily reminder that this has a JANUARY release date
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>>63497428

It was such a letdown after Blaine's wild ride.
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>remove wizards and glass
>remove wolves of callah except for the few Susannah parts
>plot remains exactly the same
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>>63490816
kek.

and don't really give af to be honest, his race was never important (although i think there was some hamfisted shit about sandra being a negress in there)

it's a fantasy world so it's really not important
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>>63497458
well then tell me why its shite
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>>63497506
Nah, you need the Priest from Wolves of the Callah too to set up the restaurant scene.
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>>63497506
>remove wizards and glass

why would someone do that? i really loved that shit, it was great to see roland's backstory in depth instead of just hints.
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>having high hopes for a memeven King adaptation
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>>63497561
I don't think it should be removed, but it's in the wrong place
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>>63497594
>but it's in the wrong place
y?
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>>63497648

Besides it literally taking place in the wrong order?
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>>63491098

It's just the accent. Can he do American?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibaw8vmmdEU
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>>63492066
it's louie theroux's twilight of the porn stars, the second one.
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>>63493516
>not liking 4

how did you enjoy the rest of the series but not like the 4th one? how is this possible?
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>>63491476
Oy best character.

Want to watch the show/movie with my pupper so he can learn to be less of a fuck
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>>63497506
how the fuck does black thirteen make any sense without wizard and glass?
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>>63497775

Wizard and Glass is shit.
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>>63494978
No.

Everyone posting is a pleb.

Empathica in the last book alone makes it worth reading. Ending is good, fucktards don't know that King always ends his books in abstract ways.
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the last book was of course fucking horrible, even worse than 6.

but everyone loved the ending right? it was really great, fitting, and sad. perfect imo.
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>>63497506
Wizard and Glass is the best book because of Cuthbert you retarded cunt.
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>>63498029

>abstract

A CYCLE ISN'T ABSTRACT.
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>>63498050
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>>63498126
I was talking more about how they defeat King Crimson.

I didn't actually read the ending because King told me not to. Read it in a green text 2 years later. Wasn't dissapoint.

It's about the journey senpai
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>>63498159

>the journey

That's what people who can't write an ending say.
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>>63498126
Roland got something different every time though. Now he has the Horn of Eld, so each time he fixes one thing wrong with him.
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>>63498193
The ending was GOAT though
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>>63498193
King has never really denied that. He's made excuses, but he admits his endings aren't the Hail Mary that most other writers go for.

In his book On writing he says "I put endings on my books for the same reason I put pants on before going outside - it's culturally demanded"
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>>63490457
That's another movie I won't be seeing, then.

I'm not surprised, though. I learned through reluctant hope and its destruction that there's no sanctity whatsoever in any aspect of the human life. This shouldn't be any different, so it doesn't come as a shock.
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>>63498048
it was a meta ending. you only earn a true meta ending if the work is a meticulously planned thematic pyramid leading to that conclusion, on par with The Sopranos or Wide Sargasso Sea.

Stephen King doesn't plan his novels so he never could have justified that ending. It only seems to work to some people because of the sunk cost fallacy - they invested so much time into reading the books that a crumb of intelligence was acceptable.
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>>63497424

I just sat there laughing. I was filled with such rage, but all I could do was laugh. THIS is how he ends it? Seriously? Then I realized all the years I had wasted waiting for that moment and what it would be, only to get that shit he crapped out. Put the book back on the shelf, and haven't bought a King book since.
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>>63498382

>meta ending

Dropped.
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>>63498504

But you're really missing out on Doctor Sleep.
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>it's about the journey

Great motherfucking journey in Wolves of Calla and Roland Tapdancing Deschain, King
Great journey going to that one street in New York about 300 times too
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>>63490849
>Roland to be white so Odetta Holmes can mistrust him due to the fact of him being white. Without that dicotomy the series can't highlight how hate+racism is a monster in human form as the book did brilliantly.
Couldn't they just make the Odetta person white ad distrust Elba because he's black, is that not racism?
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>>63498382
>it was a meta ending
yeah the whole last 2 books were his head stuck up his ass. i don't know, even it's not deserved or planned or whatever i still think it works well with how ruthless and how determined he was to get there.


maybe the journey won't veer off into retardedness this time around.
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>>63490457
I'm not even mad, I'm just tired of it. Stop making white characters black. I'm done with this fucking diversity meme.
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>>63498644

1. Making a black character white is whitewashing and wrong
2. Perpetuating the stereotype that black people are scary is wrong.
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>>63498644
>Couldn't they just make the Odetta person white ad distrust Elba because he's black
A big part of her character is the contrast between the violent side and the peaceful civil rights activist. Is she meant to be an advocate for white rights in the 60s?
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>>63492504
olyphant in 15 years
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>>63490457
>this is a nightmare and you can't wake up.
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>>63491219
I found the flash back to his days with susan rather taxing and don't care much for king's style of writing 2Bhonest pham.
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>>63498750
>>63498682
>>63498644

In the OVERALL scheme of the story, Detta is insignificant. She'll be removed altogether.
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>>63498935

So you're ok with erasing black people from history?
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>>63498935
She was a big part of the earlier books (i.e. the ones people actually read). The later wank is the stuff thats going to be cut
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>>63498988

Sacrifices must be made to give our black young men heroes. And nobody really cares about black women anyway.
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>>63499005

>She was a big part of the earlier books

Not really. I always felt her story was shoehorned in so King didn't come off as gay or so he could write "Honky" over and over.
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>>63499049

King has always had issues with racism and homophobia. I'm only into book 4 so far but I'm surprised at the lack of homosexual content that I come to expect from King novels.
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>>63491048
why the fuck do people write like this, is it an illness?
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>>63494354
Who or what are you quoting?
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>>63490457
well I'm not a fan of the idea of making roland blac, but elba is a great actor and if they give him ice-blue contact lenses, I might be somewhat okay with it.

as long as eddie is white. don't fuck with eddie
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>>63499744

Am I the only one who thought of Bill Paxton from Aliens as Eddie when reading the books?
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>>63491119
he could, but he's too handsome
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>>63499780
well no, because eddie's in the mid-20's

ever since I heard that aaron paul wants to play eddie, I kind of imagined him. but not really. just some resemblence. I think joseph gordon-levitt would be a good eddie too
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>>63499785

This is who I would pick for Roland. Old enough, grizzled, still slightly handsome. Also a man of few words.
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>>63499829

Bill was around that age then. Obviously he couldn't do it now.
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>>63499842
telling from the looks: eeeh maybe
telling from his personality and in general: eeeeh maybe not so much
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>>63491048
Half the posts you linked didnt have a problem with the decision, you knuckledragging agendamonkey
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>>63499876

I think he's got it for personality. Roland is often short, blunt, and unemotional. All things Shannon has done well.
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>>63499903
I'm still not convinced for him to be roland.
maybe flagg as martin?
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>>63499956

Maybe. Who would you prefer for Roland then?
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What a load of marks.
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>>63499982
viggo mortensen
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>>63500046

Not a bad pick at all. If only he still acted.
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