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ITT: Cinema that plebeians will never understand.
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ITT: Cinema that plebeians will never understand.
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>>63388272
ITT Pretty average movies
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Not the best, but the most Based Godzilal movie TbH Famiry
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>>63388334
kek
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>>63388272
I knew it had to be the same retard defending those two pieces of shit.
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>>63388318
No they're not average, they're borderline offensive. Stop trying to soften the blow, they got tons of flak and shitty reviews for very good reasons.
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I was good with Man of Steel but fuck Prometheus!!!
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>>63388409
I don't care what r/t says, iron man 3 is my better than man of steel. Literally how is 1 a 79 and the other a 50-something? I don't even read comics so I had no idea the mandarin was some asian dude, but they turned it cornball in the last half
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>>63388471
NOT not my

My autocorrect is shit
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It's pretty funny how fundamentally incapable /tv/ is when it comes to Prometheus.

>"muh plot holes!"

No, idiot.
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>>63388570
How do you manage to breathe on your own?
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>>63388272
man of steel will be remembered years from now as one of the best superhero films of its time once the shit storm settles and the sheep move on. 10/10 for me
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>>63389607
Yes, people get progressively more retarded with each generation, so it's plausible.
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Man of Steel is objectively entertaining.

Prometheus is objectively garbage.
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>>63388272

Man of Steel's a pretty straightforward movie. Some characters act stupidly in it but it doesn't come close to the level of shitness or plot holes Prometheus has.
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>>63390237
>missing CIA

go straight to hell faggot.
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>>63390237
good taste
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>>63390237
When I watched Unbreakable, I had no idea it was so highly regarded. It was alright, but I honestly didn't think it was anything special
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>>63388272
>cinema
>posts flicks
c'mon anon
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>>63390237
>Man of Steel
>Chronicle
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>>63390302
How cool is that that even SS soldiers got to meet Jesus in the underworld, pretty strange to see Indians and Samurais since they din't believe in anything
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>>63388272
>ITT: Cinema that plebeians think is deep

Ftfy
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>>63388272

> Le man of steel was good meme
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>>63388272
Is it a 'movies that'll be classics in 30 years thread'
I second prometheus then
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>>63390939
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> Go in to see the movie ?
> expect superman to act like a faggot like he always does
> saves cats, prevents forest fires etc
> this nigga is snapping necks, dropping houses like 9/11
movie was fuckign great
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>>63391005
>muh CGI explosions
>muh fight scenes
>muh boom boom smash smash

You are the lowest common denominator these movies specifically cater to. It's no wonder you gobble this shit up.
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>>63391073
> Muh movies being movies
> muh contrarian opinion
Fuck off to your basement to watch black and white no sound movies on roll projector familia baka blud
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>>63391005

Let him go full superman prime then. There is no middle ground.
He isn't Batman, so Superman shouldn't be angry and brooding. That is just fucking stupid.
Sad thing is that Captain America in the MCU is a better portrayal of Superman then what DC/WB gave us.

Only edgy faggots enjoyed MOS version is Superman
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>>63391111
Of*
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>>63388373
>I knew it had to be the same retard defending those two pieces of shit.
No, I fucking love MOS and only moderately like Prometheus, Prometheus's problems are much much more serious than MOSs and are relevant thru out the film (characters acting fucking retarded), mos 2 primary problems matter for only 1 scene and the conclusion. (tornado scene and the lack of superman saving people from the rubble at the end, giving us something to flow into the time skip instead of just jumping)
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>>63391073
who goes to see a capeshit film for sophistication and philosophy and deep meaning. its a fucking film about bullshit thats not real in your daily life. watch it enjoy it forget about it. go back to your great 'life'.
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>Man of Steel is the first superhero movie to be directed by a real filmmaker since Tim Burton took on Batman in 1989. Director Zack Snyder does more than reboot the past Superman franchises; he immediately gives the subject his signature–something Burton could not do until his second Batman movie, the comic/macabre Batman Returns (1992). Snyder has a grave sense of movement and excitement that is distinctly cinematic which cannot be said of the other directors who essayed previous Superman movies including the tongue-in-cheek Christopher Reeve films, as well as the various Batman flicks, X-Men, Star Wars, Star Trek, Iron Man, Punisher, Electra, Spiderman, Hellboy and Fantastic Four—the entire unsatisfying lot.

>Unlike Burton, Snyder’s sensibility derives from comic books and graphic novels yet his visual extravagance also contains the palpably erotic core of comic book fantasy. Snyder immediately invests the Superman story with this tactile realism, a feel for ancient legend: Opening scenes on the dying planet Krypton recall the stylization of 300 but with a slightly futuristic edge that never lapses into conventional superhero movie fantasy. (Snyder got that out of his system with Watchmen.) The arch otherworldliness of Jor-El (Russell Crowe) and his wife Lara Lor-Van (Ayelet Zurer) sending their newborn infant into outer space to survive Krypton’s destruction and preserve their heritage from the tyrannical threat of General Zod (Michael Shannon) also evokes a kind of classicism. It doesn’t play like sci-fi and when the story shifts to planet Earth where the alien boy Kal-El is raised as Clark Kent, Snyder effectively creates a contrasting, charged-up realism.
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>>63391111
He wasn't angry and only marginally brooded, as he was lost before discovering his origins and was conflicted about using his powers as he very likely could make things worse than if he did nothing.

Their is no he SHOULDN'T be portrayed this way, people have different fucking preferences in characters, it not catering to your narcissistic ass doesn't make it bad.

You got your 5 campy Superman films, now its our fucking turn.

Edgy is shit like the comic event Ultimatum which had the Blob fucking eating Wasp's corpse, that was garbage, there is nothing edgy in mos.
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>In Man of Steel, Snyder’s ingenuity–his realistic panache–prevents the Superman story from mainly appealing to either adolescent whimsy or adult camp. He makes a radical break from past Superman movies and the entire recent movement of comic-book/graphic-novel-based films. That genre, where commercialism overwhelms imagination and hack directors (Jon Favreau, Shane Black, Tim Story) are undifferentiated from minor auteurs (Sam Raimi, Bryan Singer, J.J. Abrams) and distinguished directors (Irvin Kershner, Richard Lester), has accustomed audiences to a type of artificiality and silliness. They accept cliché narratives, routine violence and a basic lack of seriousness as standard. Man of Steel is marvelous, serious fun which changes all that.
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>Kal-El/Clark Kent (played by Henry Cavill) isn’t called “Superman” until late in the story; his history and identity are the film’s real subject. First seen bursting through flames as a Herculean physical specimen, his alien adjustment to Earth and humanity is a personal trial neatly conveyed through screenwriter David S. Goyer’s multiple flashbacks. While Snyder gives the alien’s feats a quality of wonder, Cavil conveys surprise, urgency and torment. Snyder is good at the physics of stress (The Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole is a masterpiece, I promise you) which separates Man of Steel from The Dark Knight trilogy.

>Christopher Nolan (producer on Man of Steel) had a flat, cold directorial style only useful for his trilogy’s cynicism. Snyder’s kinetic pictorialism provides a humane essence perfectly attuned to make a story about alienation, regret and the struggle to survive a changed environment; it’s moving rather than trendily “dark.” When Kal-El learns his of background, Snyder visualizes the lesson as a bas relief of Krypton’s history: figures emerge like engravings on coins burnished by memory; it’s as amazing as the hieroglyphics sequence in The Prince of Egypt.

>Snyder’s consistent intermix of realism and legend upgrades the superhero genre. Cavill’s dramatic handsomeness recalls young Sean Connery’s exotic virility; his simultaneously otherworldly and legendary aspects suit Snyder’s sensuous action style–textured close-ups of skin and capillaries, jet trails in the sky as he flies, his red cape’s heavy swoosh. No previous Superman achieved Cavill’s perfected gesture of drawing back his right hand when flying to exert physical and spiritual will. Converting iconography from District 9, the Transformer films and Independence Day, Snyder improves on the imagery, giving it a speedy, thrilling roughness, preferable to the usual unimaginatively slick CGI.
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>>63388409
There is nothing mother fucking offensive about mos, if you don't think Superman should ever be portrayed with realistic choices that he can't magically solve with mary sue powers then you don't actually give a god damn fuck about the character enough to let him grow and be shown in different settings with different levels of tone and realism.
Fuck You.
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>What’s terrific here is that Snyder expresses Kal-El’s force, his will. The yearning to understand himself and his human-likeness gives the film depth. When Kal-El meets the earnest newspaper reporter Lois Lane (Amy Adams) their immediate attraction is so well acted it’s deeper than romance. Their passions meet and that’s Snyder and Nolan’s breakthrough. This is the most stirring, impassioned superhero movie I’ve ever seen.
By emphasizing Kal-El’s conflict with his abilities, desires and his yet uncontrollable circumstances, Snyder discovers his meager genre’s richest potential. (One scene offers a beautifully concise Christ-parallel.) Lessons from Kal-El’s two fathers are sturdily presented by both Crowe and Kevin Costner (as Jonathan Kent) so that tests of his ideals and his strength against Shannon’s Zod (that Frankenstein brow suggesting political warp yet oddly touching like Rutger Hauer’s Roy Batty) offer a continuum of masculine being. Eat that Luke Skywalker.

>Snyder doesn’t cheapen the “S” emblazoned on Superman’s chest. “In my world it means ‘Hope’” Kal-El says. That’s a significant difference from The Dark Knight trilogy’s nihilism. The fight against Zod is primarily ethical (“You have developed a sense of morality and we have not–which gives us an evolutionary advantage. If history has taught us anything, it’s that evolution always wins.”) Yet as Snyder envisions this battle, realism stays in scale with awe—something science can’t measure.
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>>63391707
Dude stop posting that fucking image, it makes if come off like your trolling even tho a good portion of what your saying is true.
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i just don't understand how someone can dislike man of steel, it's literally better than any marvel flick from the last 5 years
yet every year marvel forces another few shitty flicks out to make some money and they always do with their trashy meme dialogue, shitty writing and shitty directing yet people eat it up and the critics always give each and every single one 9s and 10s
while dc comes makes something different and innovative for once and everyone complains and says it sucks. and it does disappointingly at the box office. and bvs is likely to replicate the same results once a fucking again

it's over
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As the Supeman-Zod fight escalates so does its 9/11 evocation and Snyder’s vision of urban destruction attains the poetry Michael Bay did not, alas, achieve in Transformers III: Dark of the Moon. That evolution comment evokes The Godfather; its implicit “you can kill anybody” suggests 9/11 annihilation which has fed the juvenile thrall of too many comic book movies, Snyder’s Superman–symbolizing hope–counters all that. Man of Steel allows sci-fi blockbuster audiences to finally emerge from post-9/11 darkness. Thanks to Zack Snyder’s artistry, Man of Steel is The Godfather of superhero movies.
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>>63391772

i dont understand how anyone can tolerate an hour of exploding cgi
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>>63391772
i feels you
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>>63391824
Because we actually watch said cgi and can see what is taking place on the screen and in the story, which you apparently.
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>>63390978
underrated as fuck desu senpai
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MoS was just so awful. Cavill couldn't act his way out of a high school play.
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>>63391631

> our
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>>63392103
> our
People who like Superman taken as a serious sci-fi concept instead of campy joke, and writing him as a real person instead of a can do anything and everything perfectly mary sue.
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I just dont understand the hate for MOS when most other capeshit movies are way worse. We finally got the first superman movie where he is not a pussy the entire film and everyone complains.
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>>63389607

gr8 b8
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>>63388272
I like both those movies
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>>63393051
whoa whoa whoa. you like both? you must be a happy person. unlike the rest of the filth here
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>>63391107
The contrarian opinion is that MoS is good. Anyone with half a brain can recognize it for the dog shit it is.
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>>63391582
>who goes to see a capeshit film

Moronic manchildren.
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>>63393291
Except it is not in any way beyond "not muh", on a film making and story telling level it is perfectly competently done you lying sack of worthless trash.
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>>63393502
>zack snyder is competent
another contrarian position.
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>>63388272
Only gripe I have with MoS is Zack Snyder trying to be Christopher Nolan. Superman doesn't need every scene to be filled with 'deep dialogue'
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>>63393956
that's goyer's fault
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>>63393559
indeed, /tv/ is a contrarian shithole like this guy
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Most of the hate I saw Prometheus get here on /tv/ seemed to stem from people who apparently had no sense of what symbolism is at all.

I'm not saying it was a great movie, but it wasn't subtle about its symbols, and most of its critics here seemed hellbent on viewing it only in a very literal, hard sci-fi sense.
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