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ITT Barry Lyndon
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>>63242647
>tfw your Irish ancestor fought at Waterloo but you still don't like the British
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>>63242647

Beautifully filmed and I like historical movies but Ryan O'Neal was a terrible casting choice, the guy can't act and was only picked because he was the hot thing back then.
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Was Bullingdom a cluck?
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barry lyndon is the best film ever made
debate me, theists
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>>63242751

napoleon dindu nuffin wrong
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>>63244488
if we were doing (psuedo)-objective top 10s and the whole ryan o'neal thing was solved by a slightly above replacement level actor or better, barry lyndon would show up in a fuckload of lists.

as is, nope, sorry. but it is kubricks best work regardless
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>>63242751

he was probably british you retard
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>>63244488

m8 its lauded for the sets and costume work, but that's not enough to make something the best donchuknow
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The only Kubrick movie I feel is a bit lengthy. Everything up to the marriage is amazing, so are the visuals
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>>63242751

>MUH heritage
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>don't mind me, just being a better movie...
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Maybe my favorite Kubrick movie, but his most soulless and empty. People who claim it's his best are really trying too hard.
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>>63243093
I'm personally glad they didn't choose Peter O'Toole or Robert Redford, as O'Neal just seems more restrained or wounded in some way. It's sad to see this character descend into materialism, whereas with almost any other actor, it would have been enthralling.

Spiritual enthrallment with Materialistic or Englightenment values didn't seem to be the goal here.

http://youtu.be/Rti_nDcnTPw
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>>63245609
Its not soulless, the film oftens feel like a satire from the grotesque depiction of characters to the scorn fueled speechs from the narrator but its not totally devoid of empathy. Kubrick clearly feels for Lady Lyndon for example.
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The 18th and 19th centuries seem to have been the best centuries to be alive as a white straight male in the western world
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>>63243093
>only picked because he was the hot thing
Yeah, that's true. Still though. He's not that famous anymore, and that makes the movie good.
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>>63242647

This thread is brought to you by Carl Zeiss ® Master Race f0.7 planar ™

Seriously this movie is the definition of cinematic.
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1605, Ludovico Cordi - The Adoration of the Magi

http://youtu.be/Vn7WUUuwCLs
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>>63242647
>The old guy he keks to death
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SuperCameraman : the movie

https://youtu.be/FmSDnPvslnA
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>>63245918
As much as I love BL Kubrick should have done Napoleon with Al Pacino in the lead role. He spent a lot of time researching every minor detail about his life and ended up not making the film because he was afraid of a Box Office flop, and yet he got a mindboggling 20M budget (WAY too much money for a film in 1975) to make a slow paced period piece like BL, which didnt make the budget back.
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>>63246379
I think Mathieu Demy would make a better Napoleon... The real question is, who could direct from Kubrick's script today?

Maybe Francois Ozon, if you wanted to emphasize the comedy, or Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, if you wanted the stateliness and paranoia characteristic of a Kubrick work.
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>>63245609
What exactly makes it feel soulless and empty to you?
I felt as if Kubrick took great efforts to make the film emotional and consistent with the period.

>tumblr gif I know, but I pulled it from google
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>>63246610
The thing is, you can still film an emotional scene in a cold and distant manner, and that often happens in Barry Lyndon. Still, whether you have emotional attachment to a scene or not is subjective, but the masses in general will hardly understand its subtleties.
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>>63246711
I was asking specifically what caused that poster to feel like the film was cold and distant. I genuinely felt like the characters were living in the 18th century. It's a story about love and loss, trials and tribulations. It's like saying Ben Hur or Lawrence of Arabia are emotionally distant.

I just don't understand. What do you expect from epics? Do you expect some Tom Hanks movie where sappy music plays and the camera closes in for a dramatic kiss?
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>Ryan O'Neal hate

Redmond Barry is a stiff, unlikable cunt.
O'Neal is the perfect choice.
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>>63246780
Some people probably view it as being distant in its attempt to depict the passing of time, as Bullingdon grows up and develops a sense of grievance.

Barry Lyndon is a bit like Lawrence of Arabia if Michael Wilson had written everything, leaving Robert Bolt out of the equation entirely. It's highly structured, there's lots to be discovered, but much of the expository dialogue and riffing has been left out... it's the sort of thing you watch on a theater, without expecting to rediscover it on home video.
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>>63246909
I guess you could say the exposition is all given in the narration, but this doesn't give us an opportunity to discover Mr. Barry for ourselves, right?

The conflict with the Reverend is especially underwritten, and the fact that we see these problems developing at the periphery of the narration, is supposed to increase our sense of tension... but it's never brought home in any major way.
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>>63246780
Barry Lyndon is closer to a slice of life piece than an epic in the same vein as Spartacus or Ben Hur. And these are also heavily dramatic films. Lawrence of Arabia is another heavily dramatic film that puts emphasis on the thrilling aspects of Lawrence's missions and in the monumental war set pieces. These films are as emotionally charged as they can get, very friendly to the masses, so I don't quite understand your point.
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>>63243093
I think the fact that O'Neal couldn't act was actually one of the reasons Kubrick cast him - it helps the film rather than hinders it. When you think about it O'Neal has more than a few things in common with Redmond Barry. Both are handsome but dim,pugnacious yet cowardly and unconvincing in their respective professions (con-artist/actor). You always get the feeling in the film that Barry doesn't belong (like a big star at the time who just happened to wander onto the set that day) and that's an important part of Barry's character(he's in perpetual exile). The first time I watched it I did think it was bad casting but subsequent viewings have changed my mind and convinced me Kubrick knew what he was doing.
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>>63246379
Nah, Kubrick couldn't get a handle on the material.
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>>63246780
I didn't so much mean the movie is cold and distant, but moreso that Kubrick made it as a concession.
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This is my favourite shot in all of film

You could hang this up on your wall and legitimately convince people it's a painting

As with so many shots in this film, my god it's just gorgeous all the time, and you can really see just how much Kubrick studied 18th century paintings in a lot of compositions
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Somehow Barry's role as Lyndon is almost akin to Lawrence's brief role as a Circassian, before that character's comeuppance.

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>>63242751
my great grand dad fought WW1 but I'd still scowl if i saw somebody wearing a poppy
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Did Lord Lyndon actually manage to sire Bullingdon? Or is Kubrick suggesting that the Reverend has Lady Lyndon intermittently?

Is the reverend essentially in the role of a therapist here, or why is he so closely associated with them?
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>>63242647
What a boring shit movie.
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>/tv/ circlejerks this movie all the time
>it's literally about cvckolding
BRAVO /tv/
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>>63248249
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>63247327
I dont know about your last point, I mean did you study 18th century painting? I dont think you could name 3 painters yet you assume, just because he makes painterly pictures in BL, that he did this extensively?

No offense toward those and this shot though, beautiful cinematography, literally scenes that could be painted 1:1 and would be masterpieces today.
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>its a magic circle episode....
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>It's an incredibly belaboured autistic allusion to the tarot...
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>>63244488
better movie coming through
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>>63245609
Soulless? I cried when his kid died which no other film has been able to make me do so fuck you. You're the only here trying too hard.
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>Barry is Aeneas carrying Anchises
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>hangin' round on your horse in the forest
>see this
>what you do /tv/
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>ywn grope her supple breasts
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>>63248503
I don't assume, it has been stated that he studied them for the movie

just like how he went through extensive catalogues of classical music of the time before settling on the current soundtrack
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>>63246221

> cums
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>>63248992
>that horrific 70s bloom
Fuck, Kubrick satirised trends before they even really got going. I knew I was going to love the film from this scene alone, even though it's easily the most uncomfortable.
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>>63248992
i'll also never be that much of a pussy
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love this movie and its really underrated.
i understand its slow and long but it's what i find so pleasurable about it. it's not for everybody tho
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>>63250830
>Kubrick
>underrated

reddit pls
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>>63246379
He cared way too much that somebody else made a cheaper film than he would've made.
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>>63248106
I read an interview where Kubrick does pretty much state that Reverend Runt loved her.
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