>aliens sent a distress signal before dying in 1996
>it took 20 years for other aliens to arrive to Earth
how far away were they?
>>63218276
20 lightyears?
>>63218276
20 years away you dumb fuck.
>>63218311
>>63218303
10 lightyears, because the signal had to reach them and then they had to fly back.
>>63218276
Space is huge.
>>63218276
20000 miles.
>>63218303
their mothership doesn't seem capable of traveling at the speed of light
they could have easily been just one or two light years away from the other ships
>>63218337
This smart ass here.
>>63218342
Eh, not really.
>>63218303
>>63218337
Maybe they can instantly warp or something?
What movie are we talking about, anyway? Independance day?
As far as aliens go, these fuckers were pretty primitive. Their suits were bulky and didn't have good articulation. Their technology was taken down by a fucking computer virus. Sure they could communicate telepathically, but they had to actually be touching the person in order for it to work.
3/10 on the movie alien scale.
>>63218342
Space is only 1,513,716,875,612,928,000,000,000,000 meters wide.
>>63218411
What's that in first world measurements? Like 10 miles?
>>63218276
How could we know? What makes you think that the second they got the distress signal, they left?
Based on the info we have, it's impossible to know.
>>63218337
So must be closer than Tau Ceti I guess which is 11.6 lightyears away.
Must be Alpha Centauri and they took their sweet time.
Got the message in 4.6 years and then it took them 15 years to arrive.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LQfaNhC.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
HELLO BOYS
In space terms, not that far away
>>63218469
>What's that in first world measurements?
1,513,716,875,612,928,000,000,000,000 meters
>>63218351
it can travel at the speed of light. it's very massive though, they had to slow the ship down way before they arrived at the planet.
>>63218303
>>63218311
>doesn't know that the signal travels in every direction so it takes longer than 20 ly
like the beginning of contact
>>63218730
>aliens are in a specific place
>signal travels in every direction
>this means that it takes longer for the aliens to intercept the signal
What the fuck are you talking about
>>63218773
If you're one yard away from me and I toss you a football, and then you toss it back.
Did the football travel 1 yard or more than one yard?
>>63218342
for you
>>63218806
5 yards
>>63218276
>yfw the message was "YOU GOTTA GET NORTON"
>>63218806
it traveled one yard you fucking moron. Then it went one yard back. Each trip is a different point A to B not one single motion you fucking moron
>>63218730
the fuck?
the aliens are in a fixed point. the signal moves outward in a radial sphere, it pings the point it pings at the same time it pings every other point it pings as it moves outward. you idort.
>>63218927
woe there cowboy, calm down. giddyup my asshole with your gun.
his point was, it travels 1 light year to the location. then 1 light year back, that is 2 light years.
A---------------------------B
B---------------------------A
you see? DO YOU SEE. WHERE WERE GOING WE WONT NEED EYES!! DO YOU SEE!!
>>63218927
>not one single motion
That doesn't matter.
I'm asking you how long the football traveled in the scenario.
It went to you, and then back to me.
What is the total distance it traveled?
so is this basically gonna be jurassic world in space or does this actually have a chance at being a decent follow up to the first one?
>>63218509
Well you know because it is a DISTRESS signal. You either go asap or don't go at all.
>>63218983
Is the first one decent to begin with?
>>63218970
5 yards! because of interdimensional time shift along the phase variants of the sub space field radian particles that the gamma rays have polarised with a a negative tachyon beam!
ffs, its not rocket science. ok...it is rocket science.
>>63218983
Jurassic World in space, with some painful cameos.
Expect your generic "save the cat" screenplay, with every shot being focus tested with a million different groups to make sure everybody "gets it". A movie with this much money behind it can't possibly be good.
>>63218983
It's gotta be decent. The main cast is backexcept HOL UP WHY MY SON AINT IN DIS MOVIEand the plot seems to make sense. It would be unrealistic if the entire alien civilization traveled in one ship smaller than Pluto, so the idea that other aliens are out there and coming to take over isn't too bad.
>>63219007
>>63218276
One possibility is that this race is more like a Pirate race. They used shitty tactics with the invasion of earth. And instead of just using the "rod from God" tactics of leveling a planet to claim it. They instead board the vessel of earth just like pirates would do from a mother ship. Most likely the reason is to still what technology they can and all resources they can and possible enslave humans and sell them as slaves across the galaxy. They might have taken so long because these aliens arent sure how to use the tech that they have highjack on their adventures. So by the time they got the message they could have been in the middle of invaded a different planet and then had to pack up and move out to earth once they finished with that one.
Also its a fucking movie so does it really fucking matter?
However far their spaceships were away 20 years ago.
No advanced race would use anything but superposition to relay important signals instantly across infinite space.
>>63218970
The shit you are saying still doesnt make any sense. You are trying to compare the speed of signal radio waves compared to the speed of an alien spaceship which no one knows what type of propulsion. Once in space, space/time says your distance doesnt fucking matter.
>>63219039
not really funny mate. if you wanna talk about what's bothering you I'm here for you lad, to be forthright familia.
ok so its 2015, 1996 from 2015 is 19. it takes 20 years for the signal to them?
that means they were roughly 300,000 light years away. i think. i might have done a math booboo, you should ask /sci/ they will laugh at you then give you the answer if its so important.
>>63219151
>superposition
Can't be used to passed information
>>63219186
well you see, im upset that well, 20 years for a message to reach them we would need to know how fast thier signal tech is. if it moves as fast as the speed of light then i dunno
what im saying is, why do you keep calling me lad and son and boy etc.
I want more informations about their race desu
>>63219255
>kanada
>>63218337
O shit someone on 4chan has a working noggin.
>>63218303
#rekt
>>63219255
its to strip you of your femininity so you are no longer able to use being a woman as a reason for things.
also so they can call you manchild. because they like that too.
>>63218401
Yeah but they had invincible alien shields, the ability to make city sized ships that could enter an atmosphere, a mother ship capable of housing 12+ city ships and we've never really seen their ground forces fighting unless they were in a gimped state.
>>63218967
WTF is traveling both ways? A signal and then a return signal? Fucking NOPE. You are talking about a spaceship and a signal from a distress beacon. 2 waaay different things and behave waaay fucking different in the vacuum of space.
>>63218276
They should have the sequel take place one day after the original movie ended. All the characters are older from being subjected to alien radiation and Will Smith died on the way home in a car accident.
>>63219335
ill vacuum on your face mate, vacuum all over your face .
>>63219255
What about quantum Entanglement?
Maybe they figured out a way to communicate using that?
>>63218276
You can't tell with the information given.
>>63219193
>that means they were roughly 300,000 light years away. i think.
>>63219396
dis nigga knows whats up about shit.
i hope it takes place on independence day again and they release it on independence day. ill be there, with my flag wrapped around me.
>>63219335
I can tell by your grammar that you are probably an MIT graduate, perhaps you even work in a field like astrophysics or Deep-space radar telemetry.
I therefore trust your flawless and irrefutable blog post you made on this webzone just now that I will send this message as a reply to.
Peace, kike.
>>63219193
they were in intergalactic space?
Honestly it doesn't matter.
This movie is going to blow ass without Will smith in it.
>>63219434
Actually I don't. There is literally no way to communicate using quantum entanglement.... at least that we know of. But I'm fairly certain it's impossible.
>>63219396
Quantum Entanglement can not be used to relay information.
People only think it does because they have a misunderstanding of how it works due to mental poisoning by clickbait adds.
>>63218276
>Inter galactic Aliens got beaten by 90s technology
That was the moment when I left the theatre
>>63219193
what in the mercy of sweet fuck are you on about son?
>>63219450
you are right about the radar telemetry but not so much the others.
>>63219396
they had to use some kind of unknown tech.
if they used out tech that would put them just outside of our solar system. we can know how far away they were, but i would say 20 thousand light years away which is why it took 20 years.
i dunno my brain hurts i hate things.
>>63219465
No its not impossible. And we may not be. But an alien race that can build a moon sized ship probably is capable of figuring that shit out.
>>63219458
why not? we dont really know what they are capable of.
>>63219335
Signal at light speed travels back and in the best case scenario for the aliens they travel in their spaceship at light speed.
If they had ftl they would most likely not use a slower signal.
So 10 light years or less away.
Not 20.
>>63219231
For humans right now
>>63219482
it would take 300,ooo years for a ship to travel 20 light year with human tech.
so . im just saying. they must have been 300,ooo light years away and they got the signal in 20 years and thats why it took so long.
i reverse engined it. and then i re energized it.
>>63219575
you mean....for u?
>>63219524
No, it's actually literally impossible.
The mechanics of quantum entanglement make it impossible to communicate using it.
Let me explain quantum entanglement to you, imagine you had two boxes with a red ball in one and a blue ball in the other.
You get two niggas to fly to the opposite sides of the galaxy, each with a box with a ball in it. They don't know which ball they have.
Then, when they reach their destination, they open their boxes.
One of them has a red ball, so he knows the other guy has the blue ball.
The one with the blue ball knows the other guy has a red ball because he has a blue.
And that's it. That's quantum entanglement in a nutshell. There is no possible way to use the system to communicate.
You read too many popsci articles, dude.
>>63218276
jesus christ autists arguing about the distance...
distance = time x space
so either they were on the moon and came slowly as fuck, or on another galaxy lightyears away and came superfast. You can't know for sure if you don't know where they came from, or the speed
>>63219469
So you watched 95% of the movie then left?
>>63219524
>No it's not impossible
yes, it is
Quantum entanglement doesn't transmit information.
From an engineering point of view, the problems are even more basic:
In order for Aliums to create an entangled state, we must first choose a quantum system. For convenience, let's use the polarization of photons, i.e. an entangled state will be a system of two photons whose correlations show entanglement. In order to create such a pair of photons, they need to interact. It is simply not possible for one person to create a photon and another to create another on the other side of the planet such that the state for the two photons is entangled. both people need to meet with their photons and let them interact - or else: Person A creates an entangled pair and sends half of it to Person B But this means that you cannot avoid sending quantum systems (e.g. particles with spins, which must be stored somewhere like a memory or photons, which means electromagnetic radiation).
Now, when you have done this, information can only be sent by a) quantum teleportation, which requires classical information to be sent between person a and person b or b) super dense coding, where person a encodes the message they want to send into their photon and then sends it to person b - this is only interesting, because to send a two bit message, person a only needs to send their one-bit photon (because person b has already been sent a one-bit photon in advance). In any case, you cannot avoid transferring data by either transferring a memory (via postal service) or electromagnetic waves. Entanglement just doesn't let you save any physical resources for communication in the way you hope.
tl;dr it's LITERALLY Impossible.
>>63218377
Pic is from ID but OP put some fucked up years so I honestly dont know what the fuck is he on about?
Its not D9
>>63219576
keep this up and you will be responsible for the brain aneurysm that I feel forming.
>>63219575
please learn actual physics before you try to give me some speech on how humans used to think flight was impossible or something
you're just saying nonsense, like some kindergartner trying to suggest using long division as a makeshift dildo.
>>63218469
23232134353432,43444345 george washington penis lenght at his 18th birthday
That movie sux because they used Apple computer and everyone knows Apple dont have viruses and another thing,
No one in known or unknown galaxy uses plugs that Apple uses.
>>63219633
>You can't know for sure if you don't know where they came from, or the speed
Yeah but we can argue about it.And we can make estimations about their speed based on their tech and such.
>>63219660
ill do my best.
>>63219669
i love makeshift dildos!
>>63219718
so basically you're arguing about science without knowledge of it, and without any certain data, and about fiction like it was actually grounded in said science
>>63219703
But the virus was transmitted wirelessly.
>>63219766
wait we had wireless in 1996? i was still using a 56k modem :(
>>63219765
>so basically you're arguing about science without knowledge of it
no
>and without any certain data, and about fiction like it was actually grounded in said science
yes
so, how far away were they?
>>63219792
ALOHAnet existed in 1971
>>63219871
those god damn commie bastards
>implying the first alien attack wasnt from a distress signal
>implying theyd reuse the same bullshit retards.
>>63219659
Are you literally retarded?
I can't wait to see aliens traveling trillions of lightyears only to get get DDOS'd by script kiddies.
>>63219642
Ayy 1 takes his half of the entangled pairs with him to Earth, in a black box. Ayy 2 keeps their half of the entagled pairs with them in the main base.
When Ayy 1's mothership explodes, the black box converts the necessary info like co-ordinates and cause of death into the electron spins and the corresponding half on Ayy 2's ship update.
Then Ayy 2 works out where the nearest Ayys are to Ayy 1's location, and sends them to glass the planet via a secondary entanglement system that was also established in advance.
>>63219626
>quantum entanglement
http://phys.org/news/2014-07-scientists-quantum-entanglement-amplified.html
try again
>>63219626
http://www.vacuum-mechanics.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=19%E2%8C%A9=en
A simple virus won't be enough to save the day this time... Were going to needANONYMOUS and their 1337 h4x0r 5k1llzto save the planet this time.
>>63219151
>using superposition
>to pass information
do you also use microwaves to create metal alloys?
>>63219669
lol theres a shit ton of things that physics can not explain. While physics does explain a most things in our galaxy work it. Physics does seem to work very differently the more scientist look at other parts of the universe
>>63220012
>http://phys.org/news/2014-07-scientists-quantum-entanglement-amplified.html
That article explains nothing of how this would actually work.
It's a fucking pipe dream fellas. Quantum entanglement looks cool but it cannot be used for communications.
>>63219997
This is too retarded to even refute.
What if Ayyyyyyys are now equipped with state of the art Kaspersky anti-virus??
>>63220094
>Virus destroying the aliens
god, GOOD LORD THIS SO SO SO SO SO SOOOO DUMB, not sign level dumb but we're getting pretty close.
>>63219765
>no fun allowed
>>63220144
what if they didn't update their OS firewall?
>arguing about the physical intricacies of the plot of a fucking emmerich flick
>>63220115
Its really not a pipe dream at all. It just hasnt been cracked yet. You think if you told people 70 years ago that you can send data and voice in light beams across the planet that any of them would believe you.
>>63218337
Lightyears measure distance not time.
>>63220012
That article was 90% bullshit and assumptions, m8
>>63218538
What did he mean by this?
>>63220176
Phlogiston just hasn't been cracked yet
Alchemy just hasn't been cracked yet
Flat earth celestial dynamics just haven't been crack yet
Ether just hasn't been cracked yet
>>63220174
Fuck you I do what I want.
>>63219642
Not that guy, but what is the actual problem here? Is it that for QE to work the two photons have to com into contact at least initially, or that it isn't really faster than light because it works with electromagnetic waves, or that it doesn't send sufficient information?
>>63220176
look let me try to explain this to you as simply as possible so your tiny underachievenig brain can understand it.
ITS IMPOSSIBLE
the information encoded in entanglement is only extractable when you look at correlations between measurements on both the entangled systems. So to access that correlation information, you would need communication anyway, and that communication could not be FTL. If you only look at either system, but not the other, then you need no such communication, but you also can extract no information from the entanglement.
Do you understand now?
>>63220284
explain it to me like im an infant
>>63220182
how retard can you be?of course it measures distance but is still a distance DURING a year.
>>63219299
You're reading into things a bit too much, Lass.
>>63220228
you are thinking in a very small time scale. No one said its going ot be cracked over night or even this century hell maybe not even this millennium but eventually (if we dont kill ourselves) it will be cracked.
>>63220176
It's not an issue of people just not figuring out how to do it yet. It's literally impossible.
It's like dividing by zero or digging a tunnel to the moon.
>>63220271
There's no way to decode the information without having access to both of the entangled objects. You would already need a different form of communication to communicate using it.
It's like if you were passing notes to someone, but to read their notes, you had to call them on the phone to ask them what their notes say.
>>63220378
>digging a tunnel to the moon
how the fuck do you DIG a tunnel to reach something IN SPACE? are you stupid??
>>63218730
Someone failed physics
>>63220379
Couldn't they have an agreed upon system for interpreting the signals beforehand?
>>63220413
Are you stupid? It comes down during the day dude, you just have to sail over the horizon.
>>63220413
i would think that portal gun would dig a hole to the moon, so to speak .
>>63220370
You don't understand. This isn't an issue of finding a work around, this is you basically saying a non-sequitor.
You're effectively saying "eventually, with enough time, someone will figure out how to use long division as a dildo"
>>63220452
The notes are arranged in a way that you can only decipher them if you have both on hand.
>>63220349
There is no way for you to tell what the particle will be when you reveal your end of it - it's either spin up or spin down and until you observe it - it's both.
There is no way to PUT information in that particle.
if you and a friend are trying to use this to communicate When you measures the particle, the wavefunction collapses and the spin of both particles is fixed in opisite directions from here on. This seems like it could be used for communication at first. But the problem is that your friend on the other side of the galaxy still has no clue, if you have done your measurement already or not. Your friend will just get a random measurement, just in exactly opposite pattern than you did.
IE - there is no way to send information - you just know that a measurement has been made and your friend got the oppisite spin.
>>63220370
dude, it's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
>>63219997
>black box
>main base
>when Ayy 1's mothership explodes, the black box converts the necessary info
>electron spins
>glass the planet via a secondary entanglement system
honestly mate, i almost ruined my keyboard with hot tea thanks to you.
>>63220554
>>63220469
So you are saying that physics works the same everywhere in the universe? Cause it dont.
>>63220413
That's the point.
Going faster than light is literally fundamentally impossible.
>>63220527
thats prety cool. did i like go to a nice school to learn this or something? like watch cosmos by sagan?
>>63220370
It's cute how stubborn you are when you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>63220527
you know the best part about arguing with a physics major is they always think they are right and taht there is no other way. Its like a school of Bill O'Rileys.
>>63220604
It does. That's the whole point of physics. Nowhere in the universe can anything go faster than the speed of light. I'm not sure what you heard on the Discovery channel, but not even ancient aliens go faster than the speed of light.
>>63220604
Just quit, lad. Just exit gracefully before you embarrass yourself further.
>>63220562
>Ayy 1's mothership
>>63220604
Aaaaan he just admitted he was baiting all along.
Move on, lads.
>>63220527
Why does particles spin in different direction?
Also, what would happen if a photon didn't spin at all?
Could you freeze a pair of photon at absolute zero(0 degrees Celsius) and then when they are freezing you take a microscope and view them and both are still? What would happen then?
>>63220649
>but not even ancient aliens go faster than the speed of light.
>ACHUALLY just alcubierre that bitch up
>>63220628
Here's something cool, you can buy textbooks without being enrolled in university and it's a great way to learn on your own time.
Many big name university professors have their own youtube channels they host for their students that you can watch their lessons on.
All these things are a great way to learn this on your own free time.
I self taught myself a lot before uni.
>>63219469
>World superpower got beat by farmers with AKs
That was the moment I left Vietnam
>>63219193
Please explain how you came to that conclusion.
>>63220642
Same could be said about what you think you know and what you think is true and a constant everywhere. You are unable to see past that, which is the most comical part. Its something that all you physics majors have in common. Just this stubborn im right everyone else is wrong attitude. I bet you think you are way smarter than everyone else. You might even think you have everything figure out, in which how things work. You probably have terrible social skills and are very awkward in social settings. I can also bet that you get frustrated very easily when things dont go to your "plan". Its like all you fucks go to different schools for physics but all come out the fucking same. Its truly amazing .
>>63220700
>Could you freeze a pair of photon at absolute zero(0 degrees Celsius)
>absolute zero(0 degrees Celsius)
>(0 degrees Celsius)
>Celsius
Uhh, assuming Kelvin
That shit does still MOVE at-
...
No, fuck, I'm not doing this
>>63220724
Could I bother you for the name of one or two of these youtube channels?
>>63219576
>300,ooo years
![KG_NDWW_ID4_ALIEN_EXO_001[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nsVmyJK.jpg "KG_NDWW_ID4_ALIEN_EXO_001[1].jpg")
Pretty cool alien design desu.Why would they wear armor inside a space fighter? The cockpit would have to be many, many times larger.
>>63218337
Only if they're able to move at the excact speed of light.
>>63220527
If the other people light years away are able to know that a measurement has been made, then you just solved the problem. Just set up multiple entangled pairs and use a binary system.
I think you are trying to sound smarter then you actually are.
>>63220779
Depends on what you're interested in.
If you want to learn more about physics, you're gonna need math knowledge or that physics information will seem like moonspeak to you.
Do you have a good math foundation?
>>63219576
>300,ooo years
Anon, FUCK
>>63220819
>>Why would they wear armor inside a space fighter
Because those ships seems suited to atmospheric combat, and it's better to have a life support system if you crash land.
The aliens are clearly world harvesters, so their ship design would reflect that.
>>63220819
Secondary life support
Comfort
Streaming alien porn right in their face
>>63220742
lol merica didnt lose vietnam. They even want the US to build a new Naval Base there.
>>63220842
Somewhat decent. I'm sure I'll run into something I don't understand quite fast but I have faith that I will be able to figure it out by using all the tools the internet can provide.
>>63219576
You do realize that it takes light 20 years to travel 20 lightyears?
>>63220819
It's not neccesarily armor, could just be a flight-suit analogue, they're stated as not being much more robust than humans so they'd still need protection from extreme g forces/exposure to vacuum/impacts etc etc.
>>63220649
http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2011/11/another-law-of-physics-broken.html
You fucks crack me up. So bricked wall in your ways.
>>63220628
No I just read things in my spare time. used University textbooks are dirt cheap around here.
>>63220700
This is fucking bait.
>>63220759
>>63220644
>Implying I was a physics major.
I'm a poor helicopter pilot who went to flight school instead of paying 100k for college.
>>63220832
The reason your plan does not work, even theoretically, is there is no way to control the bits. Say Me and You have a pair of entangled particles: When I measure the spin of my particle as up (1) I know that you will therefore measure down (0). This is being misinterpreted as me transmitting you the signal (0) but this is not correct, I had an equal chance to measure down (0) and you would receive an up (1). All I "communicated" to you is random noise. I also can not change your spin by making more measurements. Entanglement is a one shot effect, once you have made a measurement the particles decohere, they are no longer entangled.
One important point here: I know that you will measure down (0), but I don't know if you have already measured it or if my measure is the first.
Basically you can't induce a spin up or spin down in a particle. If you could then you could use a binary system. But since you can't, there is no way to communicate.
>>63220948
>http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2011/11/another-law-of-physics-broken.html
>physicsbuzz
>never replicated experiments
>>63220819
Do they have to walk around like that all the time
>>63220927
iirc, the /sci/ sticky is really good for this
https://sites.google.com/site/scienceandmathguide/
What if you have a very long piece of string between the planet and ship with plastic cups on the end?
>>63218276
>>63218276
In the Blu-ray it says it that it was an election year by the time the aliens got the signal and they we're delayed by politics and problems at home.
Not even making this up.
>>63221134
Cup and string theory
>>63218806
The football remained static, everything else moved.
>>63221134
Speed of Push
>>63221134
String theory.
Its not as interesting now that you know what it means eh?
>goto sci
>say this bullshit
>get torn down in 5 seconds due to gaps in education
>move on with life
>>63218276
>how far away were they?
That's not the only aspect of it. Maybe the signal arrived earlier, but they didn't decide at once how to react.
Maybe they felt that another invasion was a bad idea, maybe they had to rebuild an entire space fleet etc.
>>63218730
>>63220993
ok so have the machine decode anything taht comes threw as a one and a gap in "time" as a zero. So it wouldnt matter what came out the other end the first time cause its just saying it works while the gap in time would be a zero being that no info is being transmitted.
>>63221000
http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.107.191101
>>63221232
It all suddenly makes semse
>>63221303
>>63221303
Thats the thing though, there is nothing for the machine to record until it measures the particle and on top of that there is no way to know weather or not you were the first one to measure the particle or of the person on the other end was trying to measure it.
Regardless there is no way for the other person to know that you've measured the particle unless you can first communicate with them.
You don't know what color ball you get in your box and on top of that there is no way to know if the other person has opened their box or not already.
>>63218276
Signal takes xx years to reach them.
They gather, and start flying. They need to spend time accelerating close to light speed, and then they need to take the same amount of time to slow down again.
So of they are 10 light years away, they spend half their journey accelerating, and half decelerating assuming they can approach a decent fraction of light speed. That means that their journey will take 15 years or so.
So we can guess that they are around 5, or 8 light years away and based on how fast they can accelerate, and slow down.
Everyone always forgets that in space there is no rolling resistance, no friction. You need to use the same amount of time, and energy to slow down as you did to speed up.
And at such high speeds, you can't use gravity assist to slow down enough.
>>63218806
>toss a football
For what purpose.
>>63221815
lol
fuck you anon.
i'm having a bad day and for some dammed reason that made me laugh.
fuck now I'm sad again.
>>63221469
Ahh i get it now. You are thinking of this as it needs to be a constant. You dont think you can make a Error correction device of some kind. Perhaps A master slave style of communication thats found in a lot of old tech.
>>63221941
What errors need correcting with quantum entanglement?
Peace?
>>63218806
If you're one yard away from me and I throw a football in every direction, does the football coming your way take longer to reach than if I just threw one football at you
>>63219484
How's Cheyenne mountain?
Been off-world lately?
>>63222011
how can you even throw a football in every direction? ud have to move faster than the speed of light [which you cannot]
>>63222009
NO PEACE
>>63222050
>the signal travels in every direction
That was the thing I was replying to.
I was only using anons football analogy to show how dumb his post was :^)
>>63220176
>You think if you told people 70 years ago that you can send data and voice in light beams across the planet that any of them would believe you.
They would if they were physicists, since they were already sending those things by means of radio, and radio waves are just a short way down on the electromagnetic spectrum from light.
>>63221981
none. The machine would need it. One would be a master and one would be a slave. Only the Master A measurement would count and it would constantly be checking regardless of what the other end is doing. It would do this until it found what it was looking for, that would be the 1. The second master B would constantly be looking for a zero. You then Mux these two together. With the Mux waiting for Master As 1 to begin. Repeat these steps at the other end as well. Then you would have basic coms right
>>63218806
> tossing footballs
Why not kick it, ameritard? Toss that gay handegg as much as you want, but don't you toss a manly football, faggot.
>>63218538
>10 years old
>new in town
>kid asks if I want to see independence day
>no friends yet, say yes
>normal time at the movies
>suddenly HELLO BOYS I'M BAAAAAAAAACK
>neighborhood kid jumps from his seat and yells YEEAAAHHHH! in the crowded theater
>never speak to him again
>>63222273
How are the machines going to communicate?
There is no way to communicate via quantum entanglement.
You can only make a measurement and know what spin the particle is on both sides. You can't send information.
WELCOME TO EARF
>>63220759
Get off the internet Deepak, you're supposed to be on Ellen telling bored housewives they can become rich and happy with your program of $2000 ayurvedic enemas
>>63222362
>All I "communicated" to you is random noise
>>63222520
lol I dunno even know what ayuvedic is or what the fuck a deepak is.
>computer virus somehow shuts off alien shields and is communicable across all alien ships using alien wi-fi or something
Fucken 90s
>>63222573
bitch nigga had that new boostmobile son dat shit iz 2 dope. my boy big will now wat up
this whole entire thread
>>63222756
its sciense
Probably took time to rethink their strategy.
>>63219053tfw Pluto IS their ship
Did /tv/ figure out communication through quantum entanglement? Who knew it was so simple, all those physicists must be retards.
>>63222559
Yeah, that is the tiniest fraction of what you don't know. Your familiarity with enemas is unsurprising though.
>>63223175
It just werks.
>>63223175
>all those physicists must be retards
they are just bored and have no real discoveries so they each like to make up their own bullshit theories to look cool and hip and fulfill research and publishing requirements
>>63218276
Well wasn't it based on alients landing at area 51? That is when they crash landed.
That was july 1947... The Alients got here I think July1996 (call is 49 years).
Assuming light speed travel They could have been as far as 24.5 light years away...
Assume they could bend space they could have been up to just about the entire 49 light years away.
The closest stars are well within that range.
They had to be in our close corner of the Milky Way Galaxy for sure. There might be say 1000 stars in that range. Not crazy to assume life could be on one of them.
>>63223459
>alients
>>63218303
If they had light speed travel they would be 10ly away, 10 for the signal to get there, 10 to fly back.
>>63220182
Light year is the distance light travels in a year.
The speed of light is the fastest possible achievable speed.
>>63223468
The question is was it bait or just a typo?
>>63223570
A typo.
>>63223564
Ummmm kinda.
Not even counting bending of space there are speeds beyond the typical light travel.
You can get Light to go faster than it's standard speed of light.
>>63223686
Not in a near vacuum like space
>>63223564
>The speed of light is the fastest possible achievable speed.
Wrong.
You're thinking of the constant c.
>not opening a brane hole to the edge of the solar system and cruising insystem on sublights taking photos of all the planets on the way past
>>63219335
>2 waaay different things and behave waaay fucking different in the vacuum of space
Isn't this whole thing about the speed they're both travelling?
That would be something they both have in common, assuming they're both going the same speed.
>>63222039
Not that guy,but I would love to go off-world, go to another world and study the things there.
It's my dream ;_;
>>63224227
Just leave your mommy's basement. It will be a similar experience for you. :^)
>>63224278
>>63224278
Joke's on you, tripfag. I was made homeless at 17.
The guys that attacked Earth were just basically a low level mining crew. Retaliating against Earth might not have been a huge priority.
>>63224542
Haha :)
>>63219093
>Most likely the reason is to still what technology they can and all resources they can and possible enslave humans and sell them as slaves across the galaxy.
So they're Muslims?
>>63224695
It's okay bro, aside from it being the best thing that ever happened to me, I would never expect sympathy from a narcissistic faggot like you.
Now that this turned into, whatever this is, can someone explain what spacetime is? I kind of understand classic relativity and special relativity, but spacetime rapes my brain. Help.
>I kind of understand classic relativity and special relativity
>without grasping the fundamental concept of spacetime
Sure.
>>63218806
Total displacement=0 yards
Total distance=2 yards
mfw Ameritards still use imperial units
>>63224976
Spacetime consists of two different enteties.
Space and Time.
Space = is the word for the concept of emptiness or room or the german sheudenfreude.
Time is the passage of time.
>>63218622
underrated burn
>>63225116
>Spacetime consists of two different enteties.
>Space and Time.
HOLY SHIT
>>63225116
I think you don't know what the word schadenfreude means.
>>63224907
>getting butthurt for real on 4chan
seems to me like you actually did expect sympathy
>>632182761.49 Light Years from Earth
>Radio waves travel at the speed of light.[3][4]
It took 20 years for them to arrive?
>Proxima Centauri 4.24 light years away.
That leaves 15.76 years of travel time, if they weer ready at a moment's notice and if that is where they were located and if they were traveling at the speed of light.
However, it is more plausible that they were far closer and their travel speeds were far below that of light speed. They were probably on their way to the next stop when their scout radioed them and they decided to make a pitstop at Earth as they got near.
They were probably traveling no more than 10% the speed of light (67,061,662.93 mph).
20 years is 175,200 hours and at the above speed they could travel, 11,749,203,345,336 miles. 1 light year is about 5,878,499,810,000 miles.
That puts them around 1.99 light years from Earth, but that doesn't calculate how long it took the radio signal to reach them.
If the signal took 6 months to reach them that's 0.6 light years or 2,939,249,905,000 miles. They'd have a 8,809,953,440,336 miles journey to make to reach us in 19.5 years.
That's 1.49 Light Years from Earth. This does not take into account their original trajectory, if they had one. If they did. They'd need to alter course and that could seriously add time to the trip, meaning they'd be even closer than that. Now compound that with Time Dilation at their speed. It'd be 20 years for us, but less time for them.
Essentially, they'd be so close to us that they'd have been receiving our radio transmissions without any interference.
>>63225474
nice
>>63225382
Nah, I just don't appreciate it when some cunt shits on my dreams with 'hurr le anti-social neckbeard' when not only are they compelled to label their posts with a name like it means something, but they dedicate enough time here to have felt the need to do so in the first place.
>this thread
>even thinking about having hype in 2016's movies
>trying to understand literal Ayyy Lmao's magic.
>>63225949
my mistake. your not butthurt at all
>>63220284
Couldn't you just monitor for any change and agree before hand that a change means a distress signal pleas send help? They would already know where to go because any advanced race would file flight plans ahead of time indicating which planet they are slow boating towards.
>>63224542
You mean your parents threw you out for being a cheeky cunt?
>>63220220
He was abducted before.
>>63220649
There is no compitent physicist alive today that would say "we will never go faster than the speed of light it is literally impossible"
We just don't know of a way yet.
>>63226331
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That's what I'm trying to tell you.
It's not something that is actively monitored.
It's like having two boxes with a ball each in them. The only thing you know is that one box has red and the other will be blue.
You don't know which box it is but you know you have one box.
The only way to tell what color you have is by opening it.
There is no way to tell if the other person has opened the box i.e there is no way for you to tell that someone else has made a measurement on their particle.
>>63226553
Then why is everything published about it always talking about communication and teleportation instantly across any distance?
>>63220144
The virus didn't destroy them, it took down their shields.
The humans still had to blow up their ships by suicide or shooting a missile up its shit hole.
