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What's the most realistic depiction of Hell in film history?
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Problem Child 2
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Never been there.
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Life, desu.
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>What's the most realistic depiction of Hell in film history?
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Dirty Work
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star wars
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Star Wars
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>>63170007
Pretty painless way to go getting cut off at the brainstem.
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Are we referring to hell's we wouldn't want to be stuck in? Because Hellraiser would certainly suck. Also if I may branch out to other media, Dantes Inferno, the game based off the divine comedy, certainly wasn't pleasant either
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>>63170007
Hell isn't real anon.
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Honestly little Nicky seconded closely by bogus journey
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beetlejuice
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What dreams may come.

We need a serious Dantes Inferno type movie though with some of Diablo. A proper look at hell.
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>>63170007

no question
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>>63170007
Hellraiser 2
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>>63170007
What dreams may come
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>>63170007
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>>63170007
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
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>>63170253
was it really this bad?
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how do you accurately depict something that doesn't exist?
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>>63170253
Michael Jai White is a pretty terrible actor. If it weren't for Black Dynamite he'd be stuck with direct to DVD movies and being "remember that guy who was in Spawn"
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>>63170218
My mom likes that movie
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>>63170253
That's better CGI than Avatar
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>>63170007
The Devil (1972)
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because it's the closest thing to real life i could think of
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Room 1408.

But what hell is, is really abstract and more of a feeling.
Hell can be in our darkest moments or as small as being humiliated infront of a bunch of people.

Imo.
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>>63170322
The dark knight. Mortal kombat
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>>63170007
Event Horizon

I don't see how there can be a more correct answer.
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Robocop is a pretty accurate depiction of Detroit
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Reflections of Evil
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As someone who constantly visits Hell -- I have annual passes -- no movie captures it correctly.
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>>63170007
what dreams may come
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>>63170209
>Diablo
Every time I hear about the Warcraft movie I can't help but think Blizzard backed the wrong horse. I mean seriously, who gives a fuck about Warcraft story? Diablo arguably has the most bearable story out of the big 3
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>>63170418
He played a bit part in The Dark Knight and when I looked up him being in Mortal Kombat it turns out you were talking about a Youtube only webseries for some Machinima channel
Those are hardly bigger deals than the feature role in a failed capeshit movie
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>>63170474
What's it like?
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>>63170505
>Who cares about Warcraft
Literally millions of people.
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>>63170243
this
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1. There is no "Hell".

2. "Hell" as a place of eternal torture was created by Milton and Dante.

3. The Bible never mentions "Hell" the place

4. When it does say "Hell", it's just a translation from "Hades" and not the Greek mythology world, but basically to mean "tomb"

5. In actuality, according to the Bible, if you die not believing in Christ, you don't go to Hell, because on the contrary you remain "forever dead".


So no Hell. But you're just forever dead
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>>63170181
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>>63170322
I barely even remember Spawn other than digging the soundtrack. I'll always remember MJW as the" guy from that HBO Tyson biopic"
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>>63170566
>Is fedora to believe in God
Do you also believe in the Norse gods? Aztec maybe? Please tell me what makes the Christian god the right one, fucking retard.

Religion is fucking stupid, literally bullshit made up to explain what the sun is by unga bunga people.
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>>63170486
that's Hades not Hell
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>>63170659
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>>63170659
>you can get a reaction this passionate from posting one picture
Maybe I should start saving these fedora images
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>>63170659
Hey. The Norse gods are some badass motherfuckers.
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>>63170692
It's the smugness that kills me. You don't want to believe in God, fine, I don't care. But don't lord it over people like you're automatically superior.
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>>63170505
>tfw your new mythic guild is too hardcore and strict
>they shout at each other harshly in raids
>want to quit but have nowhere else to go that would be at my raiding level
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>>63170692
Is that image meant to prove something? "You sound like a faggot so what you say is untrue" maybe?

>>63170726
Never said they weren't, they are stories though. Great stories, but stories.
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>>63170565
you stay in the grave, sheol
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>>63170659
Religion has a purpose beyond explaining natural phenomenon. Religion forms the basis of belief systems and provides social cohesion. Religion is an inevitable part of the development of society and is the basis of all modern culture. I am an athiest but I respect the role religion has played in the development of humankind.
>inb4 apologizing for atrocities committed in the name of religion
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>>63170737
>>63170710
>>63170692
>>63170659
>>63170566
Oh boy here we go....
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>>63170737
>You don't want to believe in God, fine, I don't care. But don't lord it over people like you're automatically superior.
>automatically superior
But atheists are. They've accepted something that is plain to see by any educated, unbrainwashed person. Yeah they can still be fucking faggots and the worst kind of people, but in this regard, they are superior.
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>>63170322
Michael Jai White is fucking awesome. You shut your mouth white boi
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>>63170777
you've transcended (pun intended) into meta euphoria, m'good sir.
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>>63170659
Any of those can be the right one for you, its a matter of following a doctrine to have a respectful place in society. We just don't practice em because they involve murder, cannibalism, and more. Not good practices for any civilized society.
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>>63170789
>I am an athiest but I respect the role religion has played in the development of humankind.
Yeah all those wars were fucking great man. The crusades was the tits and a total benifit to mankind. The witch hunts? Yeah thank god for them.

And where would we be without the wonder that was the dark ages. Fucking kill yourself.
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>>63170647
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, probably this.
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>>63170253

>this movie was rated r just because of hell
>americans
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>>63170829
What he's trying to convey is don't be a smug asshole regardless in what you believe/don't believe
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>>63170522
Still good regardless
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>4chan "Christians"
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>>63170902
>Having to relive all your awkward moments for the rest of time
Robot hell.
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>>63170873
>Still believing in the Dark Ages meme
And we're the ignorant ones, fucking kek.
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>>63170873
>Crusades
political response of resurgent Europe against Muslim invasions
>witch hunts
way less than die in commie purges
>Dark Ages
due to the collapse of Rome, the Church was the only thing that kept even a bit of civilization alive in Western Europe
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>>63170873
>public school education
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what exactly is the metric to calculate realism here? have you ever been to hell?
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>>63170256
this sempai
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>>63170935
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>>63170873
Did you even read my entire post? I specifically mentioned that I am not apologizing for atrocities committed in the name of religion. Stop trying to mischaracterize me or my argument. You sound like a child having a tantrum. Also
>believing in the "dark ages" meme
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>>63170873
>The crusades was the tits and a total benifit to mankind

Established trade routes, nigger.
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>>63170007
They haven't made a biopic of my life yet.

>>63170218
If there is an afterlife, this movie is probably pretty close.

>>63170243
Leviathan's realm isn't technically hell. It's basically another dimension sort of similar to hell.

>>63170434
Lel. Not black enough.
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>>63170935
As long as we confess our sins before death we can do whatever.
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>>63170857
That is beyond fucked.
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>>63170962
>Witch Hunting didn't kill as many people as X or Y so it was fine
Nice argument bro
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>>63170565
Google "Gehenna" and "outer darkness".
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>>63170873
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>>63170873
Are you, perchance, feeling euphoric, my friend. Have another Hot Pocket® it will calm you down.
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>>63170007
>What's the most realistic depiction of Hell in film history?
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>>63170873
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>>63170565
This.

In Presbyterianism (aka Protestant Lite) hell is simply separation from God. You don't get to enjoy the bliss of God's love, and that is your own self-inflicted punishment.
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>>63170873
>religion caused the dark ages

Literally kill yourself, my man.
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>>63170873
>American education
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>>63171008
No
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>>63170997
Except for the 4th Crusade. That one was just retarded.
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>>63170007
>realistic
>hell
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>>63170997
Which brought the bubonic plague to Europe
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Holy shit, you fundies are fucking ridiculous. Please stop being contratian twats and realize that there is no magic sky wizard.

edit: thanks for the gold! :)
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>>63171091
>yfw
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>Few years ago 4chan is overwhelmingly atheist, you'd be laughed at for expressing religious views
>Now because atheism is more popular, 4chan must be contrarian and act like they're fundamental Christians
lmao
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>>63170829
>implying agnosticism isn't objectively correct until the beginning of the universe is scientifically proven
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>>63171116
m8 I really don't think anyone here actually believes in a god. We've just grown passed the edgy phase of blaming all of mankind's woes on le bronze age magic sky daddyxD.
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>>63170007
Wills hallucination of Hannibal looked pretty fucking evil
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>realistic depiction
>of hell
>of a fictional place
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>>63171197
I've been Christposting since 2007.
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>>63171015
It really is a insignificant number of people.
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>>63171235
M'lady
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>>63171197
See >>63171212
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>>63171197
>4chan act like fundamentalist christians
That didn't happen though.
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>this triggers the fedoras
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>>63171235
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>>63171278
what if neither are right and we just get reincarnated like curry niggers believe?
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>>63171238
>Spanish Inquisition killed 2,000 people over a 400+ year period

>Atheist Communist routinely slaughtered that many people per day

DUDE TOTALLY THE SAME. LMAO.
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>implying Christianity isn't the best way to live your life and isn't the guideline the best civilizations in the world built themselves from

ungrateful degenerate jew heathens
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>>63171156
This is a realistic depiction of hell
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>>63171278
>tfw it's real but you followed the wrong religion
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>>63171278
>You're wrong
>Nothing
I'm not fedora or anything but that's blatantly untrue.
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great thread guys XD
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>>63171212
we're not acting though.
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>>63171278
BRO DONT YOU SEE??? I HAVE TO BE RIGHT!! Although the Bible says the only thing I have to do is confess, I can't do that, because then it will make it impossible for me to continue my quest to be the most enlightened philosopher in the Milly Way!!!!
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>>63171034
Literally nothing in those "lost books" contained valuable information. It was just religious stuff, like tales of various old Gods and shit that has no real world value.

There wasn't a lost book detailing how to make a fucking hoverboard or something retard.
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>>63171221
Yeah but that's a wendigo, not the devil.
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>>63171156
>Girl is clearly humoring him
>Poor Fedora the Explorer doesn't understand
This hurts to watch, everytime.
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>>63171332
I'm talking about "witch hunts" and the inquisition, its completely irrelevant numbers compared to anything else
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>>63171409
>ancient human writing isn't important because its religious!!1
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>>63171197

If Christians were as annoying as you faggots are, we'd tell them to fuck off too.
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>It's a r/atheism raids /tv/ episode
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>>63170032
This. Second only to part 3.
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>>63171409
>bruh
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>>63171329
>implying people who can't figure out a toilet could ever into metaphysics
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>>63170857
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>>63170434
http://m.efukt.com/21126_I_don't_remember_this_in_Robocop.html
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>>63171465
>Visit /r/atheism
>Its just atheists patting each other on the back as they link various news articles about religious people doing bad things
>Visit any religious subreddit
>Its just nice people chatting away to each other, ruined only by atheist trolls popping in to stur shit
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>"If 'hell' existed.. we'd call it life."
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>>63171570
>visiting reddit
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>>63171409
>no real world value
>#1 country on earth was created because of it
>only starts deteriorating when idiots turn their back on God for liberal jew degeneracy

if christian countries suck so much why don't you fuck off to tribal africa
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>>63171570
>being reddit filth
>can't even spell 'stir'

Eat shit and die
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In bruges
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>>63171600
>Reddit is bad meme
>Not understanding that the quality varies from subreddit to subreddit
I bet you visited adviceanimals and made up your mind there and then.

Which would be like visiting /pol/ and saying all of 4chan is like that.
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>>63171596
>If there is a "god" he will have to beg for my forgiveness
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>>63170873
The church was the one shining light in all of the dark ages you fucking nincompoop. Monks in Monasteries kept the knowledge of the ancients alive, and are the very few who could do so. Cathedrals were architectural marvels that still astound and stupefy to the present day. Religion was the driving force behind art. The fucking university has its origins in Christian Monks teaching people. The guy who proposed that stars are actually distant stars with solar systems and that there is no center of the universe was a Friar.

Fuck you.
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The Beyond was awesome in its depiction of hell. You only actually see a tiny bit of it, and it actually looks kind of pretty in an eerie way, but the way it's presented is really creepy
and effective. Hell is one of my favourite themes in horror movies.


Also counter-euphoria posting is gay and psuedo-intellectual. Just leave them alone you faggots, you aren't Thomas Aquinas, nothing theologically important will be accomplished here.
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>>63171034

>be charles darwin...

Know what I'm saying?
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>>63171570
That's just how it is in real life.
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>>63171647
>The church was the one shining light in all of the dark ages you fucking nincompoop.
>Church murdering people for reading and thinking too much
>A shining light
W O W
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>>63170253

Fun fact, that's the same CG model they ended up using in American Werewolf in Paris
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>>63171696
>memeposting
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>>63171746
HOW IS WHAT I SAID A FUCKING MEME FUCK OF
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what's that movie where hell is under the staircase or something
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>>63171765
you're not even putting in effort into your b8
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>>63171650
I don't remember anything from this movie except the dumbass in the morgue wasting all his bullets shooting the zombies in the torso.
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>>63171696
>Church murdering people for reading and thinking too much
>implying that ever happened
You need to go back to reddit m8
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>>63171629

it's purgatory so slightly different

plus in bruges was merely the specific form of purgatory for ray
but I like your answer. there's people not getting the metaphoric stuff despite liking the movie
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>>63171696
>literally ignoring the good it did from the collapse of Rome to the renaissance
pls die
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>>63171777
Nice trips, you might be thinking of >>63171650 but I doubt it. That one's more of a basement.
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>>63171696
Name one person murdered for thinking too much between AD 500 and AD 1500.
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>atheism isn't a religion bro, we believe in SCIENCE
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>>63171278
What if God exists but only rewards those who are atheist because of their refusal to believe in something there is no evidence for?
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>>63171803
Dark Ages.

An era when the church basically got worried that people were learning and questioning their ways, so they forbid learning or alternate thinking. Leading to years of dumb sheep living under their thumb and dying because washing was a sin lel
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>>63171596
that's a big sword
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One of the Coffin Joe movies has a trippy version of hell. The whole movie's in black and white except for the hell scene which is Technicolor fuckery.
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>>63171765
Just stop, pls
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>>63171825
I could sit here and list off the hundreds of people killed at the hands of the Church during that era, but instead why don't you leave your basement, enroll in a class and educate yourself?
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>pre 2016
>still caring about the - isms

Come on.
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>>63171156

maaaaan that kid.
I really feel for him.
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>>63171840
think what you want about fedora tippers but Richard Dawkins is based
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>>63171202
Why didn't you jump out the window today instead of using your bedroom door? You don't KNOW what would happen either way. We can't know nuffin. Why do you eat food? You don't KNOW that you need to eat food. You just think you do.
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>>63170829
>In this regard, I am superior
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dubs say little nicky
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>>63171881
4 u
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>>63171863
This literally never happened.
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>>63171863
>Dark Ages.

you're a troll but replying anyway

it's called the Dark Ages not because Christianity suppressed some atheistic scientific revolution it's called that because the Holy Roman Empire collapsed thanks to barbarians and almost took down human civilization with it.
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>>63171928
Even without dubs Little Nicky is underrated as fuck.

>get in the flask
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might be a little 2deep4u for some of you but its this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuRmLBWbCkY
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>>63171914
>Sweden, despite all its greatness is shit because the accommodate the idea that some people might want religious freedom.
Dawkins is a hack, he is no different than the religious nuts who run around screaming loudly to sell their books. Literally the same shit this retard does.
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>I unironically believe in god.
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>>63171941
>Never happened
It did, try educating yourself from something other than an image macro you found online.
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Hell is watching Gummo next to black people?

Makes sense
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>>63171863
Then why can't you point to a single instance of it actually happening?
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>>63171971
>Sweden, despite all its greatness

LMAO how's your rape capital of Europe going kuck?
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>>63171965
Is this art?
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>>63171941
>>63171943
Why the fuck do you faggots keep replying? What are you trying to accomplish? Your lack of self-control is what derails threads, not some idiot who just has to say "hurf durf church burned people and kept science back 5000000 years" and you faggots provide 20 (you)'s per post because you have to demonstrate how reasonable and knowledgeable you are.

People posting lazy bait will always be here, but you faggots are the real problem. Stop shitting up /tv/ and jerk youselves off over your wikipedia-skimmer understanding of history on /his/.
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>>63171965
Is this from a pasolini movie?
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>>63171941
atheists confirmed from getting their much beloved facts and logic from neckbeards on reddit and sensationalized jew media portrayals
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>>63171986
>fedoras are so assblasted they try to appropriate the meme that blows them the fuck out
lol at ur life tbqh
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>>63171965
man what the fuck is this
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>>63172034
I agree with you, but it's not like this thread was interesting before the fedora guys showed up though.
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>>63172036
Yes, The Canterbury Tales.
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>>63170857
this is why nobody likes atheists
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>>63172034
if you don't say anything, you'll get swarmed by actual retards later on
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>>63171914
maybe but you'd have to be a literal C UCK to spend all that money to go on a date with him to talk shit about christfags
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>>63172110
Based Pasolini bringing back middle ages ribaldry back to popular culture. Fucking Gargantua and Pantagruel movie when??
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>>63172109
We should be trying to make /tv/ threads more interesting by discussing television and film, not by farting image macro's and unsourced generalizations in each others faces.
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>>63171915
But I do know both of those things.
They've both been proven.
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>>63172153
Agreed. I would love to have more /film/ threads but they never seem to get traction or get shitposted to death. What good threads did you post today?
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>>63171278
Even if you believe it doesn't mean you'd go to heaven if you're right.
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>>63172127
What, do you think if we don't interject with "ackshually, there were no dark ages" every time somebody meme-texts ">god, >real" /tv/ will become the homeboard of inaccurate history or some shit? The person posting the euphoric shit is probably just as smart as you and is fishing for (you)'s. Stop being a faggot.
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>>63172202
but if you don't believe you're DEFINITELY going to hell if you're wrong
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>>63172202
He's probably one of those "faith over works" fags.

That said, if I were God, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be rewarding dickheads who only believed in my religion because they're afraid of the off-chance that it's real something bad will happen if they don't.
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>>63172153
this t b h (to be honest)
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>>63172216
>don't disagree with stupid shit

yeah nah I'm not a kuck like you
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>>63171630
Hell-fucking-o reddit!
>>>/a/nywherebuthere

>>63171696
Jesus fuck you idiots need to return to /r/atheism
This entire thread has been nuke by false-flagging from redditards
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>>63172253
hell isn't even in the bible though
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>>63171008
This guy gets it desu senpai
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>>63171278
>implying God wouldn't see through that bullshit
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>>63171278
Nobody gonna post the real one? Enjoy razor bats in Xibalba motherfucker.
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>>63172322
>>63172260
>I'm smarter than Pascal
*tips*
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hell in Dragon Ball Z is pretty bad tbqh family
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>>63172084
>thinks posting fedora memes is an argument
Christians, you're not helping yourselves.
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>>63172356
>Pascal is smarter than God
*thumps*
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>>63172148
I think Gargantua and Pantagruel would work well as a trippy, animation film since Gargantua changes size throughout the book.
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>>63172356
Pascal's Wager only works if the God in question isn't omniscient. If God is, you're fucked.
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>>63171630
(You)
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>>63171965
wut
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I like the jewish concept of hell being a temporary thing that lasts maximum 11 months if you're a real dick.

I also like how in judaism, christians and muslims also go to heaven since they follow the 7 laws of Noah and believe in God. Only jews has to follow the jew laws because of their pact with god.

I also like how jews still believe the holocaust actually happened when clearly it was just another Hollywood conspiracy.

I also like how Israel still exist and how we havent removed it yet for some reason.
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>>63172280
What's to disagree with? If I started posting in random threads "2+2=19" would you feel compelled to correct me every time and respond to every argument I make to try and rationalize it? Because that's what the other anon's doing, he's talking bullshit because he knows you'll keep replying, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you pay attention. I think that the euphoria bait works so well because it appeals to the need of wannabe intellectual fags to feel wordly and educated because they can counter the sheeple with their learnings and knowledge. Christposting on 4chan is similar to euphoriaposting almost now, it's all contrarians who want to look smart without doing any real self-education or facing real intellectual challenges. I'm not posting any more on this shit or else I'm just as bad as you.

>>63170007
BACK TO FUCKING MOVIES. Who else thought that the secular, scientific approach to hell and the battle between good & evil in Prince of Darkness was interesting? I love how it starts out as a handful of young scientists looking for something unknown in an old church basement and then it quickly turns into stopping hell from conquering earth. The lack of big over the top monsters was also cool. I recently drew this picture in a MS Paint thread.
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>>63171202
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>>63170857
>They say the cancer has reached her brain and is unoperable. We love you mom?
>red scribble and3 others liked this.

Facebook should really have a different option for showing support for posts like this.
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>>63172399
I could go in for this. Make it kind of low-brow like Heavy Metal and go direct to download.
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>>63171863
dark ages is an invalid term not used in academia. it used to be called dark ages because we didn't know much about it. now it's the medieval ages.
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>>63171283
>A hat is an argument
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>>63172493
>I'm so contrarian I'm advocating for no discussion completely on a discussion board

you should open up a blank text file bruh
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Dawkins has a lot of good points but he is so fucking smug about it and so fucking unlikable that I almost want to convert to Christianity just to spite his dumb face
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>>63170007
You already posted it.
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>>63170007
Realistic portrayal of a fictional concept....yeah.
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>>63172493
Prince of Darkness was a great one. I was super creeped out by pic related.
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>>63172558
>he still doesn't realize that atheists get made fun of for arguing about peoples' personal beliefs.
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>>63171630
But all of 4chan IS like /pol/
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>>63170962
what a rudimentary understanding of history you have
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>>63172558

*telepoos behind you*

*prrrrt*

*tips cow*
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It's not a movie, but I really like the depiction of Hell in The Darkness game; I don't know if it was portrayed the same in the comic. But it was an eternal World War 1 scenario with fucked up creatures and stuff.
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>>63170007
>realistic depiction
hell aint real tho

or if you subscribe to the sartre misquote "hell is other people," then the best movie for depicting that is probably closer, or maybe naked
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>>63172633
I heard that movie sucked
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>>63172648
I've heard some very good stuff about this movie. Anything you want to share or should I just watch it?

>>63172633
The backwards world concept should feel incredibly stupid all the time but in Prince of Darkness it's legit creepy.
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>>63171003
>Leviathan's realm isn't technically hell. It's basically another dimension sort of similar to hell.

you need a pedantectomy, stat
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>>63171202
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>>63172722
It's John Carpenter, how can it suck?
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>4chan "christians"
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>>63170647
Yer, this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpKHSHrtRHc
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>>63170253
lel beat me to it.
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>>63170406
This desu
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>>63172652
Kek
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>>63172722
I liked it even if it was kind of cheesy at times. Like >>63172493 said the unique scientific approach to paranormal phenomenon is a cool way to tell the story.
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>>63172342
>if you're an atheist and you turn out to be right, you go to heaven

wut
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>>63172648
This desu

"Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: 'The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you,' he said. 'They're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.'"
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>>63172743
>The backwards world concept should feel stupid
Jean Cocteau did it super well in Orpheus and Blood of a Poet.
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Dantes Inferno (1911)
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>>63172839
That's not what that chart says. Try again.
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>>63170007
Hell is a pagan belief. There is no reason for a Christian to believe in "Hell". By believing in "Hell" you are insulting God's love.
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>>63172743
>should I just watch it?

Yes.
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>>63172839
If you are an Atheist, according to Atheism "nothing" happens to you after death.

It seems like you have misread the chart.
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>>63170565
Also, jews don't even believe in a hell. Everyone goes to heaven, even hitler. They just have to have all the evil removed from them.
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The thing is, it's just people being contrarians and trying to keep Reddit out, right?

Or are there actual religious people on fucking 4chan of all places?
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>>63172956
>butthurt atheists trying to meme
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>mfw agnostic
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>>63172772
thanks for the laugh, breh
saved
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>>63172973
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>>63172973
>that article

i'm amazed leftkucks are this pathetic. as if France has any meaningful right wing extremists and haven't been bending over for muslims for decades not to mention pissing in the eye of the USA when it wants to kill muslims and that didn't stop them from killing a shit ton of kucks who would've loved to just suck muslim dick.

you can't kuck your way out of this.
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>>63172973
Atheists are just obnoxious faggots easy to trigger desu.

Also, if you can't appreciate the value religion had on shaping human history and culture, you really are a childish fedoralord.
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