Endlessly repeating torture edition
Last iteration about to fry itself:
>>63137127
I'm still very much confused as to what the veil was, was it a machine?An entity of the confession dial its self?
>>63140766
Time Lord tech I reckon. Ask yourself this though, why could the doctor still see the stars inside the confession dial?
>>63142092
It was open.
>>63142133
How did the first time through go for the doctor?
How'd he figure it all out the first go without the hints?
>>63142659
Well fuck you I do what I want to do.
How big of a retard faggot would you say am I if I were to say the episode gave me a "Last two episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion" kind of vibe?
>>63142396
He didn't need hints to figure out the revival thing.
>>63142092
Because it was part of the simulation?
>>63142396
I'm not sure but I think the way we're supposed to interpret it is that the Doctor we see for most of the episode is the first one to have the idea of punching through the wall, i.e. the one who initiates the repeating loop, and the Doctors before him did shit like figuring out the bird password but ultimately ended up getting melted and pulling the lever.
>>63142710
I'd say suck my dick faggot
>>63142710
about this big
>>63142710
I can kind of see what you mean desu but it's not that similar.
Why'd he punch a door sized hole in the diamond? He could have saved a lot of time if it had been smaller
>>63142745
that's a big guy
>>63140627
River is the hybrid. She's a mix of Human/Timelord.
>>63142766
Because punching at full strength requires full body movement. If the passage was too small his punches would have weakened and halted progress.
>>63142798
You just blew my mind.
>>63142792
Technically she's a Human with triple helix DNA. She's like... A Human Lord.
>>63142809
But he wasn't punching at full strength, he just flailed his hand at it.
>>63142888
He was supposed to be punching at full strength. Capaldi can't help he's an old man who didn't want to break his hand pretending to punch a wall.
>>63142798
I would say in classic who Gallifrey occupied space and time just like any other planet. Sutekh's familiar with it for example. Then when it's timelocked a new timeline is created where no one's heard of timelords or daleks.
Is now the Doctor 2 billion years old or something? I'm tard and I didn't fucking understand anything
>>63142985
No he's the same age he was when he enetered the castle. He was killed each time but managed to use his life energy to give the transmat enough power to created a copy of himself from the signature left in memory. He did this for 2 billion years so it was a reset of sorts with the only constant being that the barrier was being penetrated more and more.
Also I heard that apparently he didn't really die over and over as this was a prison for his mind or something and it was just another form of torture.
>>63142985
Either it's a fresh copy of the doctor, like the 100 billionth or something, or it was all a resetting simulation and no amount of time passed for him at all.
>>63142985
No, because all those Doctors are all dead.
Technically now the Doctor is... a few days old. He said he loved babies. Now he is one.
>>63143037
>>63143044
>>63143054
I need to rewatch this at least two or three times
>>63143120
>>63143044
Considering it's already been established that Timelords figured out how to save & transfer sentient consciousness, (the Nethersphere, the numerous times the Master survived permadeath) I guess the answer is a little bit of both.
>>63143120
We all will but I'm pretty sure it was ambiguous. Err on the side of the Doctor didn't actually die.
NOT DEAD
The real Doctor died and the one we have now is just a copy, right?
>>63143236
Yes, the real Doctor died in The Tenth Planet.
>>63143236
Moffat said in Doctor Who Extra that the whole thing was in his mind. Once he finally escaped not much time had passed. He didn't reach Gallifrey after 2 billion years. He reached it after only a short time inside the Confession Dial.
>>63143252
I was watching that the other day on my granddads old projector, got so pissed off with that cop-out of an ending I destroyed the fucking film.
>>63143207
The round things.
I love the round things.
>>63143186
Well, this is another reason it was best to keep Gallifrey locked: Death is meaningless now. Just save everybody in a goddamn harddrive.
>>63143376
Any teleporter could do that. I believe transmats work the same way.
>>63143306
Thanks Moffat.
>>63140766
It was based on something that had terrified him personally as a child, so it was just another one of the constructs to make THIS dial the perfect torture device for The Doctor.
So just what is the purpose of the dial?
And after 2 billion years there must be a lot of skulls
>>63142792
she's a hybrid of shit and piss
>mfw i lived to see the day a tonberry would show up on doctor who
>>63143281
How did his Confession Dial open in the first place?
And didn't Ashildr have it?
>>63143207
The pussy game must beimpossible
I'm so fucking confused
So the Doctor was Trapped inside his Confession Dial for 2 Billion Years
But why inside the Confession dials? It's his, He know whats inside, But then who sent him inside his own shit and he did he now know where he was in the first place?
>>63143565
Just thinking about those lazy fuckers taking forever to waddle over and stab me while I have to wait my turn makes me furious.
>>63143623
there's another episode on saturday
>>63143637
So there's another time loop going to happen or something?
>>63143592
That's a good point. If I remember correctly, the Doctor recovers his confession dial on Gallifrey. I'm struggling to reconcile this with Ashildr taking it off him before he was teleported out of the trap street on Earth.
Moffat's writing makes my head hurt sometimes. Bloody good episode, though.
the classical-esque music repeated throughout the episode was pretty crazy
>>63143592
>>63143792
When the Doctor gave Me the dial in Face the Raven, she gave it to the Time Lords which is why the dial is on Gallifrey.
>>63143792
Try using your critical thinking skills.
>>63143623
I think it was all somewhat metaphysical, as in he had to show dedication to break through the time wall.
Ausfag here just finished the episode, thought it was 12/10 GOAT
what was /who/'s thoughts on it?
Hey, catching up on this season, I noticed that the doctor makes a lot of allusions to Clara dying and coming back. There was a part in the last minute of the the zygone two parter where he said she as dead for a month and she said only five minutes and then he got this look on his face. So, is Clara actually dead or is this a ruse?
![Silence_in_the_Library_181[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/coj4G30.jpg "Silence_in_the_Library_181[1].jpg")
>>63143376
4022 saved, No survivors
>>63143976
I need to drop some illegal drugs to understand it.
>>63143976
Same as you.
>>63143939
It's a tripcunt, what do you expect?
>>63143976
It was a pretty terrible and boring episode with shitty Moffat writing, so I just knew /who/ was going to love it.
So, I don't know if you had already noticed, but Derek Jacobi is working on an adaptation of a Ray Bradbury novel for Big Finish.
This means that he is available to work for them, right? And if he is, they would definitely want to bring him back as the Master, am I correct?
So Hurt Doctor vs Jacobi Master is pretty much confirmed to happen at some point in the future, isn't it?
> catched
so, I just started watching this literally today
any hot tips?
So is the doctor 2 billion years now or not? His body has only existed for an extra day or two but he says straight out he remembers all of the lives of punching that super diamond wall
According to imdb :
Paul McGann was the original choice for the role of Bond after Liam Neeson turned down the role. He would have been cast in the role had Pierce Brosnan turned down the role.
Paul had rough life ;_;
>>63144169
Don't listen to people who say Matt Smith is a bad Doctor. Most of those people are retards, fangirls and dumbshits who can't get over losing Tennant.
Try your best to get through the farting aliens episodes.
Bad Wolf
>>63144172
>he says straight out he remembers
By the end of each lifetime he figures out what's going on, that he's been doing it for years and that it'll take more and more copies to get it done. He doesn't remember every iteration, he just figures out all of it every time.
He isn't aged by the experience, either he's a copy that's a few days old or it was all in his head in a way and the 2 billion years had no relation to real time.
>>63144169
embrace the campiness or you'll never have fun watching the show
So where does Heaven Sent rank among the GOAT Who episodes?
>>63144169
Don't force yourself through the episodes you don't like. You can always come back.
>>63144172
Depends on your definition of age. In terms of his mind, he's still about 2000 or however old he was before this episode. In terms of his cells, he's a few days, but everybody's body refreshes every few months anyway. In terms of the time since he was born, time travelers are fucked in that way anyway.
>>63144192
>was onthe verge of being both Doctor Who and James Bond
>was Doctor Who only for a movie and James Bond never
Holy shit. Poor Paul.
>>63144240
It was great, but not GOAT. Just the Doctor wrestling with an interesting problem and it all coming together nicely. I have high hopes for next week.
>mfw moffat's just triggered an endless autistic debate about the nature and ramifications of teleportation in doctor who
>>63144298
>yfw pierce brosnan is the 14th doctor
>>63144240
It was boring. The only payoff was his perseverance.
Felt like a goddamn filler episode.
>>63144329
And you know he did it on purpose, he's a sci-fi geek, he knows the teleporter debate
>>63144298
He's also the sexiest doctor
Tennantkids don't know shit.
>>63144315
>>63144348
Really? Not just two threads ago we were all chanting GOAT.
>>63144329
That debate has been around forever. Any whofag who starts that shit will just be late to the party.
>>63144361
beware of day/who/ and the ending of the honeymoon period
stick to your own opinion instead of following the hivemind
>>63144361
There are always one or two faggots.
This is the most universally loved I can remember any episode being on /who/. Remember that the exact things most people liked about it, ie the focus and the use of JUST Capaldi and only one puzzle, the pacing etc, these are things that some braindead cunts actively hate.
The Pandorica Opens was better.
>>63144387
What's wrong, tumblr? Can't handle it when people don't agree with you? I hear shotgun mouthwash is the cure for hurt feelings.
>>63143911
I did consider that, but it just seemed to present more problems. Why would the Time Lords just discard the confession dial in a random patch of desert outside of the Citadel? If they knew that it would bring the Doctor to them, then surely they would be monitoring it? Why would the Doctor need to announce his presence? Surely the whole point of them acquiring the confession dial was to lead the Doctor right to them?
If not – if the Doctor breaking through the azbantium barrier was an unintended consequence, and the Time Lords were only using the confession dial to learn more about the Hybrid – I still think it makes no sense for them to be so careless with the confession dial. You would think they would value it more.
Missy went back and made the prophecy just to fuck with the Doctor.
>>63144361
it was shit
>>63144361
It was Moffat doing what Moffat does well; making a spooky clever problem that gets you interested, and unlike a lot of his recent episodes, he didn't go over the top with convoluted plots designed primarily to convince people of how smart Doctor Who is.
It still kind of felt like it didn't go anywhere though. It felt like a break between the story that will be continued next episode, rather than a story itself.
>>63144374
Huh. Well what does night/who/ consider to be GOAT?
>>63144387
Yeah I thought it was the best in a while.
I'm growing sick of the finale always revolving around the Doctor. At least TPO/TBB wasn't set entirely around him.
>>63144372
>So which one of us is the real Riker?
>Well, you both are!
If we ever actually invent this shit you're not gonna be able to pay me to go through the fucker.
>>63144298
M... Maybe Big finish could do a Bond series so Paul play the part ? :3
>>63144420
I want to fight these people.
>>63144341
I'd rather have Hugh Grant desu
>>63144420
>Get new writers in at least!!
She's got that bit right.
>>63144421
>he didn't go over the top with convoluted plots designed primarily to convince people of how smart Doctor Who is.
Instead he went over the top with a convoluted plot designed primarily to convince people of how smart Steven Moffat is
GOAT MURRAY GOLD
https://youtu.be/0k-x34yjNi8
>>63144426
Neither was any other finale, except for Wedding and Name.
>>63144462
HNNNGWe can at least all agree the music was GOAT right?
>>63144472
Parting and Doomsday weren't
>>63144472
Heaven Sent and Hell Bent are. That's 3 finale out of 5. And arguably, Death in Heaven too since Missy did it all because it was the Doctor's birthday.
>>63144485
fuck I read what you said wrong, ignore me
>>63144479
I don't think Doctor Who has ever fallen beneath GOAT in terms of music.
People have hated every writer and actor at one point or another, but Murray Gold is untouchable.
>>63144462
I liked it, it wasn't innovative, but it was nice. I think I am starting to be okay with Murray as long as he keeps trying new stuff.
>>63144503
People rightfully complained about the overuse of I Am the Doctor, but going by how much unused music there is in the Day OST I'm lead to believe that's the editor's fault and not marigold himself
>>63144479
Was it just me or did the music in that one scene of capaldi examining the painting sound a lot like a classic who synth bit?
>>63144499
I know between a third and half of these feels.
>>63144515
>new stuff
It's a sped up violin version of this
https://youtu.be/HhXdjUNq-Qs
>>63144538
The posts deleted. What did it say?
>>63144537
>>63144541
Huh, would kill for some synth next series. Even if it is very subdued and subtly buried in the orchestra.
>>63144558
>I wanna make a confession and this has nothing to do with Doctor Who.
>I often jerk off to incest porn, in fact I seek it out as much as I can. Incest Manga and Comics are also in this. That and a lot of cocks filling the holes of chicks is my fetish. From time to time I also watch dudes fuck and then get ashamed after watching. I wanna fuck my GF's best friend and hear her beg for my dick. I often fantasize about my GF fucking her boss and coworkers, but I know if that happened I'd go fucking insane. I often think about killing myself because I have nothing going for me career wise. Sometimes I wish I could wake up and it would be the first day of high school and I could do shit over. When I was 12 I used to shove plungers up my ass, no idea why, just did. I think transexuals are fucked up in the head, but I pretend they aren't. I act so fucking PC, when in reality I don't give a damn. I really want to fuck a black girl and say obscene shit. I wanna fuck the whole god damn rainbow actually. And to make this Doctor Who related I pretend to hate 10 because it makes me feel cool and like I'm not part of the norm.
>KYON-KUN, DENWA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpAEd17Tdro
>>63144581
Oh dear.
What's night/who/'s favorite/GOAT episode?
>>63143207
STILL LEAVING
>>63144503
In a lot of the Tennant era his music was really overbearing and WAY TOO LOUD, manipulative cheesy shit that dragged down scenes.
Some people also think I Am The Doctor was overused, but I personally like how it always came on as 11 saved the day.
>>63143508
Most of them would have turned into dust by then
>>63144610
How would you actually feel if it was a huge fakeout and she's actually still signed on for Series 10?
>>63144462
Fucking brilliant.
The soundtrack was GOAT throughout, this was probably the best bit. Murray's best work yet.
>>63143376
Why has a teleporter archive never been used to bring someone back to life before?
>>63144636
But it's already out:
https://youtu.be/HhXdjUNq-Qs (at 2:20)
Who do you guys want to be the new companion?
>>63144630
I would feel pretty good, it'd be nice if a companion leaves on better terms like they used to, instead of dying/being banished for their own good/getting stranded in another dimension etc etc etc
>>63144462
Fug.
After this episode, Capaldi might be my favourite Doctor ever. Wasn't fucking expecting this to happen.
>>63144670
Someone with huge tits and ass.
Now that the Doctor is on Gallifrey, will we finally learn more about his family and other previous series Time Lords?
Will we find out if Susan is still alive? Or Romana?
>>63144541
>>63144652
It's not as long though.
>>63144652
Yeah, I like the sped up remix we got in Heaven Sent more, it just worked perfectly in the context of the episode.
>>63144094
wasn't that broadcast last year?
4.51m tuned in last night for Heaven Sent.
>>63144697
Even Moffat won't bring back all that continuity in one swoop. We'll have to wait until next season at least.
You know what would be a lovely ending for Hell Bent? Gallifrey gets restored, but the Doctor has to go on the run from the Time Lords again. Next season opens with something like episode 1 of An Unearthly Child.
They did say it was going to be a soft reboot.
>>63144728
Strictly really fucking raped Doctor Who this year with the timings.
>>63144576
did you not hear the synth in this episode? i heard it when 12 was looking at the portrait for the first time. I was like "holy shit synth!" but then it was gone.
>>63144697
It will be Susan regenerating in the next episode.
>>63144697
Well it's clear Timothy Dalton isn't in this episode, so Rassilon won't show up. Unless he regenerated.
Or maybe Moffat will ignore the whole omnicide thing
>>63144751
Why the fuck are people so obsessed with assholes dancing?
>>63144721
You know, you're actually right. And now that I've checked better it looks like it wasn't even produced by Big Finish.
And yet, they're the ones releasing it on CD next month. Weird.
>>63144784
Normies, anon.
I don't know why they couldn't just put Strictly on an hour earlier, or fucking swap the timings. Doctor Who is meant to be a family show, and that includes children, plenty of parents don't want their kids watching TV at half 9 like some of the starts have left them.
>>63144784
Old and late-middle aged normies used to do it for fun.
So was that the best episode of Doctor Who ever made?
I will always remember when the Doctor wasMe.
>>63144833
An Unearthly Child.
>>63144867
That's not Ashildr
>>63144591
Endless Twelve is Endless
>>63144644
Because the only reason it even worked was due to the causality/time loop resetting the teleporter
An episode where 12 versions of 12 acting like past Doctors would have been better.
>Final Episode
Here we go again
how did the 7th doctor regenerate? he flat out died.
>>63144644
Ten tried to do it in Voyage of the Damned.
>>63144867
>>63144960
its will be hugely underwhelming massivly contrived shit. every DW finale has been this. its unavoidable. everyone should be doing their best to de-hype.
don't forget the cyber-brig bullshit of last series.
>>63144984
Are you looking forward to him taking over as showrunner, /who/?
>>63144960
Only 25 months til the next series.
>>63144967
before nuWho, regeneration was explicitly depicted as actual death, then followed by regeneration. only after 2005 has it been depicted as regeneration instead of death.
I wish the castle had included more elements of the Doctor's past meant to creep him out.
Not just pictures of Clara, but pictures of past companions with giant Red Xs crossing them out, the corpses and remains of several aliens, speakers that play the screams of children, stuff like that
>>63144999
Nah. 11 months but there will only be 6 episodes.
>>63144967
Old Doctors literally had to die then regenerate
NuWho changed it
>>63145008
>before nuWho, regeneration was explicitly depicted as actual death,
Troughton, Tom Baker and Peter Davison would like a word.
>>63145013
>speakers that play the screams of children
Jesus fucking Christ this is Doctor Who not Dementium.
>>63145008
>before nuWho, regeneration was explicitly depicted as actual death, then followed by regeneration.
I argued with a sonofabitch for hours one thread about this, some people insist it was never death. I always understood it as death when I watched classic who as a kid.
>>63145013
and that's why you're not in charge of those things.
>>63144997
Yes.
This way Doctor Who can be cancelled and we can enter the new Wilderness Years.
Big Finish will be free to do as they wish with Capaldi's Doctor like they did with McGann after the TV movie.
The books won't be cheap moneymaking fodder for the BBC anymore and will become great again.
The second coming of Lawrence Miles will herald an age of peace and prosperity for all the expanded universe.
When is exactly the Christmas special lads?
>>63145036
Fucking RTD made it canon. Jesus looking back, 10's death was pure shit "I'm dead and a new man goes sauntering away", it felt like the next Doctor wouldn't be the Doctor. He keeps his fucking memory, he's the same man he's not dead. Fucking RTD.
>>63145067
5pm, December 25th.
>>63145067
on christmas
What will the Doctor's reaction to the TARDIS being covered in Graffitti be?
So what did everyone think about the music from Heaven Sent? Personally, I loved the style of it, and the repetition of the motif really fit the theme of the episode. The time lapse sequence was also GOAT.
>>63145067
>>63145091
Or if you're an ausfag like me, The ABC will air it on Boxing Day at around 7:30
>>63145091
Thanks lad
>>63145030
>Troughton
When Troughton regenerated, "regeneration" as a solid concept wasn't a thing yet. they only said they were altering his face or whatever. So i sort of agree with you and then again it's a technicality.
>Tom Baker
he died and then the watcher merged with him and then he regenerated. its not ambiguous imho.
>Davison
Died from the spectrox toxemia, then regenerated.
The main thing is that classic who was inconsistent as fuck about regeneration. When nuWho came along they explicitly avoided any possibilty that it was death by having the guy standing up (and once with the master, yelling through it)
Of course i'm excluding Ten's "it's like dying" bullshit.
>>63145008
No it fucking wasn't. Jesus fuck, why would you even have such a strong opinion about something you know nothing about?
Remember when Doctor Who was on at 6.30pm, had good ratings and was actually good?
>>63144169
DONT WATCH FEAR HER AND LOVE AND MONSTERS.
DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE THAN US
So, why was the episode called Heaven sent?
>>63145155
Why were the first two episodes called The Magician's Apprentice and The Witch's Familiar?
I swear to god if Moffat name Ashildr "Me" just for that cliffhanger im bombing his fucking house
>>63145078
He didn't. The only thing he made "canon" was that particular Doctor being afraid of regeneration.
I will never understand why people are so buttmad about this.
>>63144169
Skip everything written by Mark Gatiss
what was bird
>>63145181
The Doctor pecking away at the rock.
>>63145169
It's obvious it's her. They wouldn't have bothered with her forgetting her name and calling herself Me otherwise. How do you even forget your own name?
>>63145078
I'm the one you're quoting, I don't even consider 10's blubbering to Wilf to be any support to him dying. I look more at how each doctor actually went down. Full doses of radiation, falling on ass from an antenna, expiring with one last breath in Pertwee's case (but then someone saying "He's not dead").
Nuwho they're standing and have a full body orgasm and there's a new guy standing there.
>>63145136
Doctor Who has literally never been all three of those things simultaneously.
this era will end up the same way the late seventies era did. in retrospect it will be hailed as the best it ever was, but it will be brought to an end by people complaining that "it's not for kids anymore, it's not suitable" and will be fored to adapot a lighter softer tone which marks an unstoppable decline in quality as they struggle to pander to a dwindling audience until the show gets cancelled.
we'll have another couple of Doctors before that end happens I'm sure.
>>63145202
Ask "Captain Jack Harkness"
>there is now 0.01% of chance this plays in Hell Bent considering how Heaven Sent ended
https://youtu.be/UEgeEmsaC8Q
Why live?
>>63145170
I was a way to shit on the next actor to play the Doctor, and didn't really do much besides. I mean I agree with you that it was just 10's take on it, but it still was a line that didn't have to be written, a reimagining of the regeneration process that wasn't needed or welcome. Like it or not, quotes like that become canon in people's eyes and get banded around forever (look at us now).
>>63145132
nice shitpost. if you actually had an argument to back that meaningless post up with you'd have actually stated it.
I deduce that Ashildr is the Doctor's Mother.
Screencap this.
>>63145244
Except Ashildr's children died and she swore never to have any more.
Your logic is flaccid, a lot like your penis.
>>63144690
I agree, give us a companion with an ass, the whole two cheeks, not just one!
>>63145230
Another anon was already blowing you the fuck out, I just wanted to join in laughing at you.
>>63145258
>she swore never to have any more.
Maybe she's lost those sections of her diary and forgot all about it.
Heaven Sent was a good episode but lets face it if you'd had put the ending from it on to the end of Face The Raven you could have skipped over this episode and effected precisely nothing. All it did was pad out a two parter into a three parter just to answer the question "what's in the confession dial".
>>63145258
What if Ashildr breeds with a Time Lord?
Guys, Heaven Sent was GOAT and all, but can we talk about the real crown jewel of this week?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0suq8ipOdfg
>>63145271
I completely fail to see this "blowing the fuck out" you reference.
>>63145277
It produces the Doctor >>63145244
>>63145274
I said that yesterday. It was literally Nothing Happens: The Episode
>>63145199
HOLY SHIT
>>63145091
5pm, isn't that a bit early?
What time does the queen's message air in the UK?
>>63145282
what the actual fuck?
wait a mnute, this thing is in series 3 episode 5 ?? how long have they been pumping this shit out??
and they've done three seasons of it and Foreman hasn't even started?? hahahahaha
>>63145223
It wouldn't surprise me if that melody shows up somewhere, but now that we're actually on gallifrey and the doctor's fucking pissed the romantic reminiscence theme doesn't fit too well
>>63145286
It seems your entire argument is "B-b-but he regenerates standing up now!" in which I guess you are right. That is different now. I prefer the old lying down way better.
But it fucking obviously was not originally "die, then regenerate". That's not how it was treated at all, look at his first few regenerations, or Romana. Regeneration is how Time Lords escape death, but it's also just something that they can do/be done to them.
>>63145310
don;t bully foreman, they had to go through a lot with that 'indian' girl
The first time around, the Doctor continued on naked.
what if the doctor is a zygon/saiyan/timelord?
>>63145258
My penis may be flaccid, but my logic is not.
Eat shit faggot.
why didnt he use the spade instead of punching it
>>63145343
Nice ad hominem, shitstain.
>>63145202
Personally I would be impressed that she somehow didn't forget that she calls herself "Me"
>>63145274
What the fuck is the dial even for? It can't keep him there, and what is the purpose of him "confessing"? He claimed that the Hybrid was half Dalek and half Time Lord which turned out to be not true but it still stopped the veil
>>63145296
When it turned out to be a time loop I thought he wouldn't get out this episode just so they could start Hell Bent with him finally breaking out
>>63145274
>episodes are only good if they progress the main storyline!
You are the worst kind of faggot imaginable. Anyway, Heaven Sent DID progress things in the bit you mentioned, and before. We finally started to actually learn things about the Hybrid, plus 12 getting over his grief over Clara, etc.
>>63145155
So they could have the penultimate episode's title start with "Heaven", and the next episode's title start with "Hell".
Also, rhyming.
SYMBOLISM!
>>63145302
3pm
>>63145326
there are different kinds of regeneration. there are the kinds when you're forced into it from suffering massive trauma, there are the kinds when you're forced into it from external forces (eg the Time Lords making you), and then there's the kinds when you do it yourself because you want to.
historically, the Doctor hasn't been able to do the latter, and when he has regenerated he's not been able to control the outcome.
this is because he failed at the academy and sucks at being an actual "time lord". Romana excelled at the academy and therefore can regenerate at will into whatever form she wants, trialling out forms before settling on one permanently.
>>63145343
Prove your theory on the Ashildr being the Doctor's mother.
You can't just say "because I say so" without showing your working.
Clara regenerates. The Doctor punches the General and runs away with Clara, stealing a Type 40 TARDIS. At the end, Clara keeps the shades and the TARDIS. The Doctor goes back to Earth to get his own things back.
>>63142396
He knew it took him too long to work out the bird thing so figured he'd leave a clue. and then like this anon said >>63142725
>>63145330
>Luke Newman can somehow get a girlfriend and three seasons of this fanfilm while Claudia can only make fucking stickers.
>>63145365
>He claimed that the Hybrid was half Dalek and half Time Lord which turned out to be not true but it still stopped the veil
This didn't happen. Watch the episode again.
>>63145326
>That's not how it was treated at all, look at his first few regenerations
Hartnell going down and Pertwee going down both seem like deaths. Troughton and Baker's ends are both odd and don't fit into any sort of canon.
>or Romana.
Just showed us that they can regenerate at will. That doesn't mean anything either way to this discussion.
>>63145330
>they had to go through a lot with that 'indian' girl
what? the only reason i know about foreman is that it was mentioned on /who/ a few times. i don't know anything else about it. would you like to elabourate please?
>>63145355
She swore to never have children because of the pain she would feel when they die. Guess how much time lords live and guess how many years old the Doctor is.
I thought that you weren't that stupid and that you could figure it on your own.
I stand corrected, your body is a host to a completely worthless brain.
Nice comeback, shithead.
>>63145291
>Ashieldr killed Clara
>Doctor hates her
>She becomes the Doctor's mother
Oh, boy, we got ourselfs an Oedipus Freud here...
>>63145387
okay the veil was already stopped when he said that but still, why?
>>63145310
Luke had the brilliant idea of premiering his series around the same time as the actual show, so /who/ couldn't pay attention to the glories of Neckbeard Master or Primeval Dinosaurs.
>>63142725
Well all we know is that EVERY time he gets deaded by the Veil and works out he can use the teleporter to revive himself. Maybe every single day was exactly the same other than the end, we don't know. The skulls and the stars are the only things that change, along with the diamond wall.
>>63145108
He kidnaps Rigsy and forces him to clean it up, just like 9 did to that kid who dared to write Bad Wolf on his TARDIS
>>63145412
won't happen because whoever came up with that idea is a literal retard.
>>63145406
Ashildr isn't a Time Lord.
Unless you're saying the Doctor is half-human on his mother's side.
>>63145136
Society is full of delicate children of all ages now and triggering them is pretty much the same as rape/murder. I was watching one of those police camera shows on Friday and before it started and between every ad break there was the trigger warning, "the following contains antisocial behaviour and dogs fighting".
>>63145428
says the embodiment of idiocy
>>63145435
Somebody gets it.
>>63145435
You mean likea hybrid?
>>63145400
>that doesn't mean anything either way to this discussion.
Yes it does. What it establishes along with the other ones is what I said, the canonical way regeneration works which everyone other than you seems to be able to understand. It's a way to cheat death, but it can also just be done to them or they can do it themselves.
The Doctor isn't the hybrid. Me isn't the hybrid. It's Clara. They're Ace-ing her.
>>63145413
What did he actually say?
Why is everyone ignoring the Weeping Angel in the preview?
The set up is going to be Clara becoming the first Weeping Angel like someone called fucking ages ago, isn't it?
>>63145402
I'll leave you to do the hard yards but basically Claudia was one of the main driving forces behind foreman. She showed signs of some real issues (calls herself a PoC despite being pasty white because she's got indian somewhere in her heritage, typical moff-hating feminist, attempted suicide a couple times and made videos about it for attention)
A month or so ago she announced she was leaving foreman because social anxiety stops her from being able to leave the house and it was fucking up their schedule
>>63145496
I sincerely hope not, trust moffat to fuck up the best nuwho companion departure
>>63145455
>which everyone other than you seems to be able to understand.
You're arguing with at least two, possibly three other people in this thread. It's not some new-fangled theory or misunderstanding from End of Time. This is what we perceived watching those old regenerations you think are proof positive of your own point of view.
>It's a way to cheat death,
No one's arguing that, only whether they actually go down to zero before coming back.
>but it can also just be done to them or they can do it themselves.
Which has nothing to do with what happens when they do it at the point of death, all you did was restate that it did but you haven't backed this up in any way.
If you think Capaldi was at his best yesterday, hahaha, you're going to want to give him all the Oscars by this time next week.
>>63145504
Oops, forgot to link her channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-p8Eaq7vTezQH_fCl2qegQ
And this is her tumblr
http://claudiaboleyn.tumblr.com/
It's up to you now anon
>>63145468
There were many prophecies and stories, legends before the fact. One of them was about a creature called the Hybrid. Half Dalek, half Time Lord, the ultimate warrior. But whose side would it be on? Would it bring peace or destruction? Was it real, or a fantasy?
before the "I confess I know what/where the Hybrid is and I'm afraid" stuff
wait, if the prophecy mentions it will conquer Gallifrey, how do they still think it will not bring destruction?
>>63145528
Good morning Peter.
>>63145496
>weeping angel
They've been used too often. They were great for blink and shit for everything else. God damn it moffat
What was up with this?
>>63145514
If you combine all the shit that has been done to Clara in this season, you can pretty much make the Weeping Angel's power set, normally I'd include the time lord regen energy that went through the Daleks in The Witch's Familiar, but now we are on Gallifrey maybe she can get the time travel powers from them with whatever The Doctor is about to do.
>>63145529
it's ok you've satisfied my curiosity. i'm not going to bother going to her websites.
>>63145541
You'd like to give me all the Oscars.
>>63145520
Wait, what are you even trying to claim? If there are multiple people on your side of this chain, maybe you are not as retarded as they guy who said that it was ALWAYS something that happened after death.
In regards to that, I'd say it pretty fucking clearly comes before death some of the time and after death other times, and maybe at the exact moment other times as well. It all depends on the circumstances.
>>63145529
>http://claudiaboleyn.tumblr.com/
What a stupid cunt
>I'm a cis woman
>My pronouns are She/Her/Hers
No fucking shit, we can see you're female, you cunt. of course your pronouns are she/her/hers. Is this site for retarded children?
>>63145558
He took out the centre tile, buried it in the yard (wrote on it I'm in 12 to hint to himself) and it stayed there because it was lower than the energy field
>>63145538
Okay, notice that at no point does he say the Hybrid is a Time Lord Dalek there also note what actually made it stop.
>>63145582
>21 year old feminist
>feminist
You were expecting someone else?
>attacks the tardis in anger
>pulls off a 10 minute long speech
>plays electric guitar
>played over the opening theme
>wears a hoodie and pyjama pants
>carries an entire 50 minute episode on his own with zero supporting cast
>possibly sings next week
How can anyone not think Capaldi is the best doctor? He's fucking owning this role, it was made for him
>>63145496
Where is it? I don't see it
The Doctor IS the hybrid. He will be the president of both earth AND gallifrey. Two great warrior races. The reason he ran from this is because he knows it will effect his life as the Doctor. He will have to make decisions he wont want to and he will not have time to travel.
>>63145595
Ah okay, I didn't make the connection because for some reason I assumed the buried slab was rectangular rather than hexagonal.
