>"The Saga [Sequel Trilogy] films focus on the Skywalker family saga," she explains. "The stories follow a linear narrative that connects to the previous six films. The Force Awakens follows Return of the Jedi and continues that generational story. The Anthology films offer opportunities to explore fresh characters, new storylines and a variety of genres inside the Star Wars universe."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-force-awakens-kathleen-828680
So, do we all agree Rey is Han and Leia's daughter and that Kylo is Luke's dark side convert son?
>british
>steals Falcon by chance
>Han has no clue who she is
>Leia willing to kill her
REY SKYWALKER EVERYONE
What was the Emperor's obsessian with getting Anakin/Luke on his side?
>>62977929
Wincest
>>62977929
Why wouldn't you want the most powerful force users on your side?
Hey remember that trailer voiceover where Luke brings back the "Force is strong in my family" monologue and it cuts to images of Vader, Luke and Leia when he says, "My father had it, I have it, my sister has it" and then the new cast when he says "You have that power too"?
Apparently that wasn't for no reason at all! Who saw that coming?
considering the fucking spoilers that came out before the trailers already confirmed i think so, tourist
>Luke's son
But Luke is a true Jedi and true Jedi's don't reproduce
adam driver is too fucking ugly to be anyone son.
i'm betting on emperor's experiment that got smudged on the inside of the testtube at some point.
What will be the better Anthology movie?
Rogue Squadron
or
Boba Fett
??????
Pic related, it's Boba Fett
>>62977860
Why does everyone think that Rey = new Han and Finn = new Luke?
Why not the other way around? I want a hot female Jedi lead who turns to the dark side starts wearing black hotpants
>>62977860
>So, do we all agree Rey is Han and Leia's daughter and that Kylo is Luke's dark side convert son?
Think you got it backwards.
Finn is a Skywalker. Leia and Lando's son
>>62977999
You know that's a line from Return of the Jedi, right?
but they definitely chose to use it in that trailer for a reason.
>>62978016
Right, and Anakin was born because his mom snorted a line of Mediclorians.
Rey will be the son of Luke, Kylo is the son of Han and Leia. Its so obvious
>>62977989
Sounds like a liability, especially with how siths keep stabbing their masters in the back.
>>62978091
yeah but, almost too obvious.
>>62978070
That's why I said "brings back" genius. They take the line where Luke reveals to Leia that she's related to him and a potential Jedi and update it implying that he's revealing to someone that they're related to him and a potential Jedi.
I just noticed that Leia is the only female human in the original trilogy
I couldn't care less
>>62978069
How the fuck would the son of Leia and Lando wind up a Stormtrooper?
That shit's retarded.
>>62977860
>connects to the previous six film
Anti-PTfags BTFO
>So, do we all agree Rey is Han and Leia's daughter and that Kylo is Luke's dark side convert son?
Rey is Luke's kid desu
>>62977910
You forgot
>Jedi not allowed to have kids
LUKES DAUGHTER
>>62978141
Not true, there are at least 2 more. The aunt that gets killed by storm troopers, and that woman talking to the rebels.
>>62977860
Who cares?
>>62978141
I just noticed that you're a fucking idiot.
>>62978170
Luke was definitely a different kind of Jedi. He wasn't a prequel Jedi.
>>62978170
>You forgot
>>Jedi not allowed to have kids
>LUKES DAUGHTER
>Jedi not allowed to have kids
DUDE ANAKIN'S OFFSPRING LMAO
Where does Oscar Isaacs character play into all of this? Who's his daddy?
>>62978211
So basically Luke has to be a sith now.
>>62978211
Anakin broke the Jedi rules and impregnated Padme.
Luke would never do such a thing because he knows it would lead him to the dark side.
>>62978141
Mon Mothma
>>62978239
>sex
>dark side
lmao
>>62978212Wedge
>>62978070
It's not the same audio though. It was re recorded.
>>62978212
I'm assuming he's like Han from the original trilogy, not apart of "the family" but dragged into the drama.
Oscar Isaac looks like he is a clone trooper so maybe he will become the new Boba fett when he learns his past?
What if Kylo is Shmi's second son she had after Anakin left? The reason he's still alive and is because he somehow got frozen in Carbonite.
DUDE JUST GLOSS OVER SOMETHING AS MAJOR AS LUKE HAVING A WIFE IN 2015 THE YEAR OF THE EMPOWERED STRONK WOMYN CHARACTERS LMAO
What if before Luke became a Jedi he had a one night stand with some beezy at the hashi station who went on to have his child who turned out to be Oscar Isaac? That would excuse him from breaking the Jedi rules and turning dark side because it was before he swore an oath.
>>62978289
>Luke not giving two shits about learning about his mother in original movie
It's poetry
>>62978046
Rey is the new Luke
Finn is the new Han
Kylo is the new Vader
Poe is the new Leia
So if Finn is the new Han why is he a Jedi? Or does he only grab a lightsaber and turn it on like Han did in Empire?
>>62978320
Luke never swore a fucking oath. What do you think he was doing when he was going to town to pick up some "power converters".
That's right, banging alien hookers.
>>62978281
How many times does this need to be said? They've already said the storm troopers are not clones anymore.
How can this movie keep getting worse and worse?
>>62978357
>Poe is the new Leia
So we'll get the first interracial homosexual relationship in Star Wars. Nice.
>>62978386
Because they're mixing things up
Poe is the new Leia, but he's the new cast's hotshot ace pilot with a droid buddy.
>>62978392
Did I say storm troopers were clones? Read it again. Oscar Isaac is probably a clone or Boba Fett's son.
>>62978357
bruh.
>the force is strong in my family
How do we know Finn isn't Luke's son?
>>62978433
Did Boba impregnate the Sand Vagina?
>>62978357
nah, Finn is dead at the end of this movie. Kylo won't be a bad guy the whole series.
>>62978463
I think there's a slight issue there family, I can't really put my finger on what it is but something about Finn just makes it seem unlikely that his father is Luke
>>62978463
Because he's black.
>>62978485
>kill Finn
>becomes good guy
>>62978485
>implying JJ would kill off his black character that he only created to send a message
>>62978500
>>62978502
We don't know if racemixed children look the same in SW as they look in real life. Maybe Luke just adopted him?
>>62978507
/tv/ is saved
JJ isn't continuing the "muh family drama" shit that Lucas was doing. I wouldn't be surprised if Rey was either Luke or Leia's daughter, but you guys are really reaching otherwise.
>>62978507
the entire original series was about the redemption of darth vader.. why not kylo?
>>62978485
>Finn's dead at the end of this movie
>Girl cast for episode 8 had chemistry readings with Boyega
Bruv...
>>62978485
Nah, he won't kill off Finn. That will make him seem racist since it's pretty much a trope by now, and he wants Hollywood to be less white. It would kind of be hypocritical.
>>62978463
luke isn't a monkey
>tfw just as I was kind of warming up to Boyega being the lead character and seeing his journey from Stormtrooper to Jedi it started to look like he was a red herring
>QUAD JUMPA is probably the protagonist of the entire fucking trilogy
JUST
Poe and Kylo grew up together and were lovers
Screencap this
>>62978536
If that was the case he would never be a Storm Trooper for the first order.
>>62978554
Somehow killing a black guy is worse than killing younglings, entire camps of sand people, and many more. And Rey will never forgive him.
>>62978433
Again.
There. Are. No. More. Clones.
>>62978560
I wasn't aware of this, but now I think he'll die in ep.8
>>62978595
He has a rebel jacket on after crashing in the desert, it is obvious he was always a rebel and infiltrated the First Order.
Kylo and Poe are Han and Leia's sons.
Finn is Lando's son but Finn never met his father.
Rey is Luke's daughter but not by blood, making her unable to use the force because black jedi's yes, female jedi's no
>>62978588
the fuck did u say
>>62978195
Milf mothma ?
>>62978560
he's not credited though...
I'm sure there's a whole team behind the scenes dedicated to throwing people off.
>>62978601
Why do you want him dead, bro?
>>62978016
>But Luke is a true Jedi and true Jedi's don't reproduce
Nah, Lucas said they had sex. They just couldn't raise the kid unless they left the order, which they could do if they wanted.
>>62978713
There's no official announcement yet.
>>62978743
>Lucas said
I almost took you seriously Anon.
and exactly no one is surprised by this although I'd go with Rey being Luke's daughter and Kylo being Han and Leia's.
>>62978736
Unless there's a serious leia/han like relationship between them, I don't see his character going that far in the series. He's not a jedi, he's just a guy.
I think Rey falls for him, and his death becomes motivation.
>>62978633
We already know about Poe's parents from the comics. They were with the Rebellion and he grows up on (Yavin I think?) with a magical Force tree.
Rey is our obvious Skywalker.
Finn won't be Force sensitive, he spent his whole life under Snoke at all and was never inducted into the Knights of Ren. He might somehow get training even though he's got no talent for it though, maybe.
Rey is actually Fett's daughter which explains where she is. Kylo is Luke's son and at the end of it all, when Kylo and Rey fall in love, Fett and Vader appear smiling, forever watching over them.
>>62977860
Wouldn't just being that close to a lightsaber burn you? Why is she just sitting there and not moving away from it?
>>62978824
Han was just some guy.
>>62978784
What?
>He says, "Jedi Knights aren't celibate - the thing that is forbidden is attachments - and possessive relationships."
They can leave the order if they want to raise a family, like how Dooku simply walked away from it as well.
>>62978877
Better question, why is she looking at it? Why aren't lightsaber fighters blinded by it?
>>62978824
I kinda like this.
>>62978855
The Knights of Ren aren't really connected to the Force either, are they? They tap into it, but they don't fave formal Sith training.
>>62978877
>Wouldn't just being that close to a lightsaber burn you?
No, the working theory that actually successfully explains seemingly EVERYTHING in how they work is that they are plasma contained in magnetic field. So no, being contained in the field will keep it from burning you. You have to break the field for it to hurt anything.
>>62978897
But would Luke leave to raise a family? No. He's the only Jedi in existence at the end of Jedi. He has a legacy to uphold. He wouldn't butcher the memories of Old Ben and Yoda just for some pussy.
>>62978824
I doubt it. He might sacrifice himself to deliver a killing blow on the First Order as Harrison Ford always wanted Han to do, but only in the ending of the trilogy.
Thought the one I'm certain will die further down the line is Luke.
>>62978906
I do as well.
Tumblr gets their piece to enjoy, and because JJ the Jew kills him off it'll keep the screams of racism down.
>>62978897
REEEEEKKKKKKKTTTTTTT
>>62978962
He gets drunk or raped or something, the no attachments thing would be why he abandons Rey, or at least tries to move her to some isolated place.
Maybe someone uses his genetic material to sorta clone her?
>>62978967
Luke is signed up for the next movie as well. Either alive or a force ghost I guess.
>Skywalkers continuing to fuck things up 70 years after the clone wars
its just getting silly now
>>62978824
>decent actor dies as motivation for worse actor who we follow for two more movies
Fuck, that sounds terrible.
Finn is the Old Ben of VII. Calling it now. Rey is the Luke.
>>62978926
They might be going with the whole idea that Jedi/Sith are just specific religions (even if they're the most "right") so the Knights of Ren are darksiders with beliefs we aren't quite clear on yet.
The origin of the Knights of Ren seems to be the expeditions that Palpatine was sending outside the galaxy to discover what was empowering him in the Force.
Expedition members then become the Acolytes of the Beyond which go and track down Vader's saber after Palpatine dies so they can destroy it and return it to Vader in death. They then gather their strength and become the Knights of Ren under Snoke.
Snoke might be the thing that was giving Palpatine his power, we don't know yet. Or the trilogy might be discovering what that was since they said we would learn a ton about the dark side and its nature.
>>62978884
But he's essential, he's the escort. I just don't see a reason for Finn to be there except for some emotional purpose, idk. I haven't seen the movie so I don't know.
I see Finn's character being more impactful if he's not around for that long but is the push that Rey needs to awaken the force.
>>62978127
Why does there have to be an epin tweest?
>>62978962
>But would Luke leave to raise a family? No. He's the only Jedi in existence at the end of Jedi. He has a legacy to uphold. He wouldn't butcher the memories of Old Ben and Yoda just for some pussy.
You forget that Luke is in charge now, he makes the rules.
Also remember that ultimately it was the love of a father and son that destroyed the Sith which had existed for untold millennia.
Luke may insist that family be allowed now due to the power of love.
>>62979031
Nah, he'll die in the last one.
>>62978141
Mon Mothma and Aunt Behru's bones would like a word with you.
>>62979098
He's there to climb the ranks to become the Rebel leader, for the pottery.
He has the most interesting-sounding storyline in the movie, he should go the distance.
>>62978239
>it would lead him to the dark side.
Anal?
>>62978016
Some kid wrote to George Lucas that it made him sad that Jedi can't get married and Lucas basically retconned it on the spot and said that Luke changed that.
Here's some concept art for the big bad of the trilogy (so far)
Supreme Leader Snoke
>A powerful figure on the Dark Side of the Force
And yes, everyones already made jokes about him being a snake. This might not be his final appearance though, we know they kept changing it as they were making the film.
>>62979282
That was all EU stuff anyway, we have a new set of rules. But it makes sense that Luke would support family stuff considering it was what defeated the Sith for all time...unless they bring them back for the trilogy.
>>62977860
Wouldn't rey be luke's son? She is literally living his life if he never left his farm.
>>62979302
Supreme leader Snoke AKA Darth Venomous. The pottery writes itself
>>62978953
if the energy's contained how does the light get out?
>>62978113
>Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
Jesus Christ. Talk about bad dialogue.
>>62979405
>Darth Venomous
Don't tell me this is real.
>>62979302
>we need a name for our snake villain
>it needs to be clever and original
>fuck it just call him snoke
>>62979484
Well it's not real... yet.
>>62979405
>>62979302
VENOM SNAKE
>>62979484
>>62979405
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Venamis
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Bane
>>62979382
>She is literally living his life if he never left his farm.
That whole post about the characters representing Luke is complete bullshit so pay it no mind. For one, Luke was NEVER going to actually join the Empire. We have the scene explaining why he wanted to go to their academy. He was going to pretend to be loyal so he could get the training and education they offered then jump-ship and join the Rebellion like his friends did, the scene is up on YouTube somewhere. I think its his conversation with Biggs on Tatooine.
Rey is most likely Han and Leia's daughter IMO. Because of things like the original leak sayingher name was Kira Solo...only for some months later to have them reveal her name is Rey...then have a statuett at a convention read "Kira on her speeder"
>>62979484
>Han Solo meats him
>I HATE SNAKES, ebin callback to Indiana Jones
>>62979491
Well, Vader and Sidious were literally invader and insidious. And yeah, Lucas confirmed that. So we've always had a bit of word play...don't worry though if the snake image bothers you, he might not look like that at all...
Then again he might. I don't believe the info about him being 25 feet tall per se, but I won't say it's not possible either...he could very well be a fucking Krayt dragon somehow since I don't think those exist in canon anymore at present outside the skeleton in ANH
>>62979544
I don't care, I'd love that line.
>>62977929
He wanted the boypussy.
>>62979583
its not really comparable
snoke is the equivalent of calling darth sidious to darth old guy
being insidious and being an invader were characteristic that the characters had but wasn't literally what they were.
>>62979544
>Kylo introduces Snoke to Han
>Shhhh Shhhhh.... This is Snoke
I've never seen a Star Wars flick but can someone explain to me why "the dark side" is so bad. Are the sith or whatever inherently evil? From what I know it just seems like the jedi call the sith evil and try to take them out just because they use the force differently.
>>62979778
Vader totally looks like some alien invader IMO
And again, we don't know what Snoke actually looks like yet for certain.
>Snake pic
>Cyborg man pic from a year ago
Both pics are wildly different, expect something inbetween. Some reptile cyborg perhaps, since Serkis confirmed his body is really fucked up.
>>62979510
>>62979405
>>62979302
In Outer Rim, ayys become lmaos
>>62977860
Man is there a decent gif of this scene? The lip quiver she does is hilarious. Like she saw a rat or a hobo. And now that we know that her accent is ridiculous it's even better.
>>62979866
Basically they just have a much different view on how the force should be used. They see the force as soemthing that should be used for its brute power. They do however because of this use it forcefully a lot more to murder their enemies, something Jedi don't do.
Really both of them are equal, just depending how you look at it.
You could even say that from someones point of view, the Jedi are evil.
>>62979866
Original view by Lucas is that the Jedi are good and that the Sith and their entire existence is bad. Nothing good comes from the dark side using it alone imbalanced the Force and a prophecy about the one that would ultimately kill all dark siders came to be.
In more recent years Lucas has shown the Dark Side being a seemingly necessary part of life and the Force, but still completely evil and corrupt. They exist but have to be kept in check, and if good ever wavers they have to be destroyed as part of keeping the check. (The Mortis Arc of Clone Wars)
They said the new movies will explore the dark side and its nature.
>>62979954
>>62979978
So is it possible for someone who uses the dark side force to be a perfectly good person?
>>62980013
Technically yes but they would need rediculous willpower. The dark side is addictive. Once someone starts to lean toward the dark side everything goes downhill for them.
A good example of this is in Episode II and III. Anakin makes a few bad choices and next thing he knows he has sworn his allegiance to the emperor
>>62980013
Not really because to get dark side powers you need to give into your selfishness, fear, anger, etc. I guess Kyle Katarn would be an exception but i dunno how canon his dark side powers actually are even though you can get like maximum force lighting and force choke in the games, but thats all non canon now
>>62980101
Well you can still be a good person even with those traits.
>>62979954
Jedi believe they have a responsibility to use their gift for others, they must be selfless and serve with the blessing they have been given. It's their duty to enlighten and protect.
Sith believe the opposite, that they should use the power for themselves selfishly, that they are special and above everyone else because of the Force, others should serve them and obey their will. They're destined to rule and become immortal.
They're very simple points of view at first glance but have a lot of potential that can be explored.
>Leia has a Death Star
>She's about to use it on the Empire's Planet Death Star
>General Hux orders the simultaneous destruction of all ships in orbit around Planet Death Star
>Even the TIE fighters and star destroyers
>All the rebels die except for Poe and his squadron
>Finn lightsabers a shield generator to bits
>Poe blows up a super weapon
>Snoke sets Hux on fire for his massive failure
>Han Solo tries talking his kid out of being an evil monster and gets trisabered to death in front of everyone
>Kylo Ren beats the snot out of both Finn and Rey before leaving them to die
>They are saved by Chewie
>Leia, without her Death Star and without an army, says that the current crew of the Falcon and the skeleton crew on Yavin are all that's left of the resistance
>BB-8, C3PO, R2D2 decode a puzzle of some kind
>They find Luke
>They go to Planet Ireland where Luke is hiding
>Rey meets her dad/uncle
There, I explained the whole fucking thing.
>>62978536
i dont think family force ability goes through legal documents senpai
>>62980013
Yoda gives some breakdown of the reason why not. Can't remember the quote verbatim and I'm on my phone ... Short answer, though, is no because Yoda. So, canon.
>>62980227
Once you start down that path, consume you it will.
>>62980013
It's not supposed to work that way. The natural Force is supposed to be passive and peaceful in a way, while the dark side is violent and deadly.
Lucas said the the Force (the light essentially) was like a symbiotic relationship while the dark side was like a cancer. One requires give and take while the other was advancement through sacrifice, which is why we have it deforming the bodies of people in various interpretations since it literally fucks you up when you let it in you.
EU did a lot of crazy shit though because the writers were sometimes dumb. Up to you to judge
Turns out Force lightning, y'know Palpatine's and Dooku's jazz, was actually the weak technique that Jedi could do a lot better in the EU. Luke created a version that was infinitely more powerful and if it touched you your life just ended instantly and your spirit left you.
Then you had the Sith being the only ones that could save the galaxy and the idea that the truth of the Force was that the Dark Side was the true Force actually and was always more powerful....yeah, shitting all over the films. (And yeah, a Sith ultimately saves the galaxy)
EU was real retarded sometimes...
It's obvious really. Plagueis wanting immortality isn't some crazy delusion, Qui Gon cracked the code. Powerful Sith Lords like Bane could become ghosts, but their spirits were bound to their possessions. Real Force Ghosts can go anywhere and influence the Force as a whole.
Plagueis died but then was reborn thanks to his experiments. In the book Aftermath, Sheev senses some Dark Side energy brewing beyond the known galaxy and sent scouts and scientists to investigate. That was Plagueis waiting in the wings. He corrupted those investigating troops and now they've come back from literally out of nowhere as the First Order. That's why the Rebellion is so surprised by the First Order's appearance, they though they had stopped the Empire but these few troops like Hux and Phasma were enhanced by Force Ghost Plagueis and are unlike anything they've fought before.
The whole reason Plagueis was out there in the first place was to investigate the origins of the Force, like the midichlorian planet Yoda visits in the Clone Wars or the Force beings Anakin and Ashoka encounter on Mortis. Ren is either a planet or a person but either way it's linked to Force wielders that the Knights of Ren, sensitives Plagueis has plucked from throughout the galaxy - many probably Luke's former students, are styled after, meaning that none of them wield lightsabers. Kylo's weapon is in fact a copy of the very first lightsaber ever made which explains its rough design.
Plagueis needs Kylo to accomplish his goal because, as hinted somewhat in that Clone Wars episode, the Skywalkers being born of the Force makes them into sort of halfblooded Force Celestials and are able to bend it to their will. Plagueis corrupts the Force from within while his 'son' Kylo controls it externally. Luke went into hiding because Plagueis is pervading through the Force and it takes all his will to hold him back. That's why he sends Kylo after Luke's lightsaber, so that it can be used to track Luke and kill him.
>>62979510
>yfw his full name is Ven-Ahm Snoke
>>62978390
They sure converted his power if you know what i mean
>>62978463
Lukes white? Finn looks full black. But he is dressed exactly the same as Luke at the very end of New Hope except his jacket isn't yellow
>>62980063
>>62980013
Luke used Force Choke at episode VI on some creature IIRC
>>62980437
This isn't bad... I'd be OK if this turned out to be true.
>>62978536
You cannot have a fully black child from a mixed race couple
>>62980730
Wait thats what he did to the guards in jabba's palace? I thought he just used the force to spook them since they seem to back off in fear
>>62980759
Yes. But I don't think he kills them.
There's a cool scene in one of the new Comics where Vader goes to Jabba's palace not long after Ep IV and Jabba's guards try to stop him from coming in and he just carves them up with his lightsaber and Force Chokes Jabba like a boss.
>>62978195
how many lines did she have
>>62980759
Yeah, basicly Luke has such a strong will power as a Jedi, a one time trick does not effect his mind
>>62980144
>have a lot of potential that can be explored
Like, for example, the Throne Room sequence in ROTJ.
Luke doesn't want to fight Vader, and only ends up fighting him when he threatens Leia. Luke channels the Dark Side and reks vader's shit.
Luke used the dark side to defeat vader, then immediately rejects it to tell Palpatine to go fuck himself and to show Vader that you can turn your back on the dark side.
I hope to god there's atleast something in the new trilogy that approaches this level of writing after the garbage bullshit that was the PT
>>62978239
What if he had sex on Tantooine before he knew he was a Jedi and left with Obi?
What if he never knee the girl got prefers and he had a kid? What if the sith found out, stole, and raised the kid hence evil sith kid?
>>62980437
So plagueis is the new Sheev, who in the OT was a mysterious wizard basically
>>62980437
>That was Plagueis waiting in the wings
Read Serkis' interviews, it's not Plagueis.
Snoke is going to be the dark side Yoda.
Also the Rebellion doesn't exist, Empire was defeated years ago and became the New Republic. First Order are remnants that control 5% of the galaxy and the Republic don't consider them a threat and don't want to fight a war to get rid of them so have just ceded them their territory. Resistance is full of people that don't agree with the Republic and they also control about roughly 5% of the galaxy and fight the First Order.
So, he's confirmed to be Leia's son/cuc ked Han Solo right?
How else would they explain his connection to the force?
>>62981089
Because its not just one family that has a connection to the force in the whole universe you dumb fuck.
>>62981089
>How else would they explain his connection to the force?
He's not Force sensitive, the fact he was raised from birth under Snokes nose and never inducted into the Knights of Ren proves that.
He has Luke's lightsaber because Poe was on a mission to deliver it when he got captured by Kylo. Finn sets him free and gets Poes jacket along with the lightsaber.
He might still get training later though, long time ago Lucas said anyone can get the training, some people are just better suited for it.
>>62981089
What if he's not force sensitive and just uses the life saver as an act of desperation?
>"No Kylo.. I am your father!"
How many people will audibly gasp in the theater? How many people will get up and leave? How many autists will stand up and shout "CALLED IT"
>>62981297
it wont happen until episode VIII for maximum pottery
>>62980965
Luke didn't channel the Dark Side. He was angry, but just being pissed doesn't mean you are using the Dark Side. Continue to be pissed you'll probably end up there. But a 30 second flailing session? No. If it was using the Dark Side surely just taking some deep breaths isn't enough to just switch back. If it was that easy Vader wouldn't be an evil fuck for 25 years.
>>62980198
Nah, a lot of that info is from old stuff that said Kylo was a Sith Lord.
Also the snow scene doesn't mean any deaths necessarily since they bothered to show it in the trailer.
Also these spoilers leave out Maz Kanata and shes kind of a big deal since she's some 1,000 year old Force user that has magic force Eyes and joins the team.
>>62978463
This is Finn's father.
>>62981667
I doubt it, but the fact they gave him some books feel suspicious.
>>62981297
>Fatt Skyburger
>>62978239
>Luke would never do such a thing because he knows it would lead him to the dark side.
virgin confirmed
>>62981808
I don't. Poe's parents were introduced in a comic book.
>>62980877
less than carrie fisher
>>62978016
Kylo Ren is his clone. Thats why they have his old lightsaber, they used Luke's hand to clone him.
>>62979442
>if the energy's contained how does the light get out?
Plasma is a real thing, anon.
How does one lose their kids so that one becomes an evil Force user and the other survives by scavenging wrecked scapeships?
If Kylo and/or Rey are Leia's kids, they're basically royalty. So my question is how could that happen?
https://youtu.be/n465EElYr-s
>Finn confirmed kill in Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Only 3 weeks to go.
>>62980437
I'd be fine with this.
I just wish Plagueis was recognized as such.And still a Muun
>>62977860
The actors for the movie are going to be on Jimmy Kimmel's show tonight. Tune in and have a giggle at how bad the movie is going to be.
>>62983291
15 years after RotJ Luke has a temple/academy and is training Jedi.
First Order pays a visit and kills all of them it seems. If they have the resources to attack the temple it means nowhere is safe. Doesn't matter if you have a fleet, they can get to you somehow. So the only option was to change the identities of the kids and hide them. It's Luke/Leia all over again.
>>62979302
JAR JAR BINKS CONFIRMED
>>62983373
Not gonna bother with that if they think Luke is evil, it's obviously they're retards just going off of the old lies spouted over a year ago.
We've already seen Luke, he's 100% light sider. The new bad guy is named Snoke and he's a new character. He's not fucking Luke. >>62981297
>retards thinking Luke would just go evil offscreen after facing the ultimate test for turning to the dark side and passing
>implying it's not actually Captain Phasma who is a Skywalker
>>62978025
He's han's son.
He's a bit of a Harrison Ford lookalike
just posting this webm because I like it so much
someone said he wasn't going to be evil throughout the trilogy?
Kylo looks way too much like Han to not be his son to be honest family.
My bet is that Rey is Luke's daughter and he thought she was dead after her mother - whoever she was - got killed, and she was taken/lost on an escape pod/whatever.
I'd also bet that its why he went full hermit before the start of TFA
>>62980965
The fact the force isn't so cut and dry is part of the mystique. One my favorite Star Wars villains, weidly came from kotor II, which was kreia.
Refugee: "I saw what you did to those exchange thugs, stranger. Can you spare a few credits, maybe help another refugee in need?"
Meetra Surik (The Exile): "Of course. Here's five credits." Refugee: "Thank you stranger, - I won't forget your kindness."
(Refugee exits)
Kreia: "Why would you do such a thing? Such kindness will mean nothing, his path is set. Giving him what he has not earned is like pouring sand into his hands.
Meetra Surik: "It may help him - if nothing else but to survive. As long as there is hope, there is the chance for redemption every day."
Kreia: "And would that be a kindness? What if by surviving another day, he brings a greater darkness upon another?"
Meetra Surik: "You cannot know that."
Kreia: "The Force binds all things. The slightest push, the smallest touch, sends echoes throughout life. Even an act of kindness may have more sever repercussions than you know or can see. By giving him something he has not earned, perhaps all you have helped him become is a target."
(Through the force, Kreia and Surik watch the refugee as he is mugged by another refugee)
Kreia: "Seeing another elevated often brings the eyes of others who suffer. And perhaps in the end, all you have wrought is more pain. And that is my lesson to you. Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clenched fist."
Meetra Surik: "There is wisdom in what you say. Perhaps I will not be so quick to offer aid in the future."
Kreia: "Good. Mind what I have said. Use your power, but in its proper place."
She was a Sith Master that hated that the Force would have a will, and that life intermingled with fate was meaningless and actively sook a way to destroy it, forever.
I dont think we'll get anything like this anytime soon.
>>62984677
>The fact the force isn't so cut and dry is part of the mystique
But it is cut and dry.
Only retarded EU writers wanted Sith to be more powerful than the Jedi and it be the true Force and have them be the ones to save the galaxy, all shit that happened in the EU and was retarded.
Jedi are good and Sith are evil, the end.
>>62978560
What? What girl?
>>62984384
doesn't kylo wear the mask?
>>62984677
You're not mature enough to see it yet, but Kreia was a terrible character that had no place in Star Wars.
>>62984384
Luke couldn't possibly lose his kid, he's too powerful and can look out across space no doubt like Yoda does.
Rey is going to be a Solo.This was confirmed when movie info first broke and said she was Kira Solo, months later we got her name being Rey and some time after that a statuette was made by Star Wars that read "Kira on her speeder"
>>62984677
>The fact the force isn't so cut and dry is part of the mystique
But it is, stop listening to EU garbage. All of that shit was declared non-canon for good reason. Sure it had some good stuff, but saying Dark Side and Sith can be good people is definitely not it.
>>62985490
Daisy made it clear in her interview as well.
>She's very solitary which is a hint as to who she really is
Not even trying to hide it. Luke was never solitary, had his friends and family. Rey is completely alone.
>>62985575
Han was never alone. He had his life partner Chewbacca.
>>62978590
I'm guessing Gwendoline Whatever is going to play a lesbian. Next movie she'll reveal she's in an innerspecial relationship with the weird alien pirate.
>>62981667
Then why isn't he around or seen in the trailers?
>>62985694
>Solitary
>Solo
>>62985699
Maz Kanata is like 3 feet tall, they won't be in a relationship
>>62984677
Kotor II was explicitly designed to appeal to millenial teens whos loser parents forced Star Wars down their throats culturally from an early age and who desperately wanted to enjoy what their dads enjoyed but the black and white themes of it made no impression on their edgy MTV minds so the video game inserts bs moral neutrality that has no place in Star Wars
>>62985933
Or maybe, being a sequel to KotoR 1, a game which follows the Star Wars formula to a T, the creators of KotoR 2 said to themselves, "Let's not make the exact same game, but something else."
black men are just superior. sorry whiteboys, maybe you should work out more and get more testosterone. i say this from the point of view of a white female
>>62981297
no one it's a stupid line if they have it in, in this age.
>movie takes place in the future
>white males still exist
>>62986137
>A long time ago in a galaxy far far away...
>>62986240
its in the future relative to the other movies :)
>Andy Serkis also mentioned that while filming, sound was pumped through speakers to give him a sense of scale and distance for the character, but it was still very challenging. It sounds like Supreme Leader Snoke is going to be a massive character, but I'm surprised that Serkis wasn't able to see what he would look like before filming.
Is Snoke going to be the new big guy?
>>62984370
How much are you willing to bet Adam Driver will actually be the breakthrough actor of this film?
I can already see the commercials that will start airing in February...
>"It's the spellbinding performance the world is talking about..."
>"Kylo Ren is terrifying, captivating and heartwrenching." - The New York Times
>"Adam Driver has brought the true successor of Lord Vader to life." - RogerEbert.com
>"Kylo Ren is an instant science fiction icon. The Dark Side has a new legend." - Broadcast Film Critics Association
>"Starring Oscar nominated actor Adam Driver as Kylo Ren... relive the adventure! Star Wars: The Force Awakens. STILL in theaters!"
>>62978069
The Aluminum Falcon is basically one big faster than light cu¢kshed.
>>62978141
Well its called Star WARS not Star gossip
>>62979089
that would be fucking awesome but I doubt it will actually happen.
>>62978212
Oscar Isaac's parents have been introduced in one of the Marvel comics.
They're original characters who weren't in the OT. They were both Rebel pilots who fought in the Battle of Endor.
>>62980437
Finally some fanfiction that is acceptable rather than godawful
