So I just watched the Phantom Menace for the first time. Is that really the beginning and end of Darth Maul? What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
He's been in the clone wars show and was going to get his own game before it got cancelled.
>>62963958
>What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
You just described Boba Fett
Boys between the ages of 7 and 10 are universally guaranteed to think he's cool. He sells a lot of toys.
Same goes for >>62964068
Introduces a new and mysterious evil force to a lawful, Jedi Order-controlled galaxy. Maul's entire existence was a lead up to the "He's just the Padawan - there must be another" discussion.
Introduces the growing threat of the Sith to the series, establishes that Palpatine has been training and failing with several apprentices before finally meeting Anakin.
Also, inb4 several people saying "Lucas sucks, prequels sucked." Maybe it's true. but it doesn't add anything to the discussion.
Everything past Empire Strikes Back was carefully calculated to sell toys.
>>62963958
what was the point of literally anything that happened in the prequels other than Anakin becoming Vader?
>toys
>Toys
>TOYS!
Darth Maul looked badass. He dominated the screen just about everytime he was on simply because of how cool he looked. Even though he was on the side of evil, people still loved the sheer awesomeness of how he was presented with all the vaguness and mystery to him.
(This passage can also be used for Boba Fett)
Man I remember the Darth Maul hype. People were so onboard with this character and George "Poetry" Lucas just kills him off. It's so fucking strange, it's obvious the dude needs a writing partner or at least someone to keep him from making this baffling decisions.
buttttt moooommmmmmmm I NEEED A LIGHTSABER STAFFFFFFF!!
>>62964068
Boba fett was not the main final fight of the movie in which he appeared. He was a lackey and he died like a bitch.
I still cant believe that Darth Maul, whos probably been training himself as a deadly assassin his whole life, and is the second most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy, destinated to be the first most, is killed by some padawan.
Like, in EP II, Anakin poses no threat against Dooku, and he was a padawan.
>>62964189
Lucas bought much of the concept vehicle and character art Kenner created for their own EU concepts
>>62964263
There's nothing wrong with having characters with a lot of mystery surrounding them.
>>62964184
But we see this guy who's the big bad guy's apprentice. That's what Vader was in the OT, but they literally didn't develop Darth Maul beyond the fact that he was an apprentice, and then he gets killed by a Jedi apprentice. Felt like really shitty writing to me, even if Obi Wan was destined for greatness.
>>62964133
>>62964237
>>62964189
Were the prequels just one big toy advert?
>>62964184
fuck off, Lucas shat the bed with Maul. He had the potential to be Darth Vader 2.0
The prequels are written like video games, each with replacable, unremarkable villains who come and go out of nowhere at the end of their 'level'
>Maul, never heard of before, dies at the end of EP1
>Dooku, never heard of before, dies at the very start of EP2
>Grievous, never heard of before, dies at the end of EP3
Boy that sure is a neat comparison to the original trilogy where we had Vader for the entire time and the Emperor pretty much too.
>>62964500
Sheev was the real villain in all three movies though
Maul's purpose was to kill Qui Gon which leads to Anakin being trained as a Jedi
>>62963958
I never realized how glued-on his horns look
Fuck
>>62964536
Then why bother with these three fucks who add nothing of value to the movie and don't particularly help Sheev in his evil plan?
>>62964647
they do help Sheev though, at least Dooku does with the whole war and everything
>>62964682
There is nothing any of these do that is essential to his grand plan couldn't have been handled by the nameless mook.
The originals had the admirals and such as minor villains too, but they didn't bother spending much time on them as characters because in the end they're just minor characters.
The prequel villains are just as minor but they keep getting shoved in our face with their blandness.
>>62964740
>There is nothing any of these do that is essential to his grand plan couldn't have been handled by the nameless mook.
Yeah, and you guys totally wouldn't have been bitching about that.
>>62964936
That's an assumption.
And I don't see people bitching about admiral whatshisface not getting enough screentime in the original trilogy or how a big character like Vader should have been the one to blown up Alderaan or something, so really, you have no basis for that claim.
>>62963958
>those horns
>so obviously stuck on
>this is considered acceptable
>>62965023
Tarkin had more screentime than Maul or Dooku tb.h
He's there to be a throwaway villain and sell toys and Halloween costumes.
Leaving his character as a mystery and never having him speak is partly why people thought he was cool. Darh Maul never has any stupid lines or lame scenes, he just looks menacing, does some badass flips and fights the protagonists in some of the best action scenes featured in the prequels.
But it was somewhat of a waste to kill off a character with such a well recognized and popular design.
>>62965023
>That's an assumption.
No, it's really not. People in this very thread are bitching about Darth Maul not being developed enough, you think a nameless mook taking over all of his roles would go over better?
>>62964342
>Were the prequels just one big toy advert?
Yes anon, just the prequels, ignore the fact that Lucas specifically took toy rights for the originals as compensation, he totally didn't shill that for toys, those movies are just too masterful and perfect.
>>62963958
Wow I love the subtle horns, kind of makes him look like the devil
>>62965660
why is the devil in Star Wars?
>>62965300
A nameless mook getting less screentime? Absolutely. The thing is Maul was essentially a nameless mook, but the film treated him like this big character, so everyone feels he's underdeveloped.
To make his role work you either develop him better or cut his screentime and replace him by a random bad guy #134.
>>62965686
Pretty much. He was in a position similar to Vader, but he may has well had been a redshirt.
>>62964640
Fuck man, now I can't unsee it.
>>62965660
Why is the devil wearing fake horns?
His purpose was to teach obi wan the value of having the high ground
>>62963958
>named after a tool
>because that is all he is
plus you faggots couldn't wait to buy all the merch with his stupid face on it, especially the action figure
>>62964278
he will return
Is everyone in this thread fucking retarded?
Maul didnt die in Episode 1, he became a half robot spider
>>62963958
One of the main problems with the prequels is that every character, every situation, every scene, and every line of dialog is just a stepping stone to get to the OT storyline. Nothing is treated as if it should be a cohesive story on its own, no character is given any consideration or significant development, its just a this guy did this and look Anakin became Vader!, thats why all the characters feel shallow and terrible.
>>62965133
I think hes talking about Admiral Piett
>>62963958
>What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
To sell toys.
They made him the face of the movie.
And that stupid CORN ON THE KABOB song.
>>62963958
Toys
>>62967292
Darth Vader had lines and character was the face of the movie and sold an assload of toys
>>62967475
Ray Park was probably more expensive than David Prowse because he did stunts.
>>62964500
maul lived and had his legs replaced with android spider legs in the comic book
- it's arguable if this is canon anymore since disney took over, but emperor not only survived return of the jedi but had a cloning factory where he could just get a new body here and there until luke fucked it up
>>62963958
Maul was the puppet all along, there was another hidden apprentice somewhere in the film.
No, it wasn't Jar Jar.
Its not fucking Star Wars without huge final boss esque lightsaber battles
>>62967570
Clone Wars is in the Disney Canon. Ahsoka who was introduced in the Clone Wars was brought back for Star Wars Rebels which is also canon.
>>62964500
Dooku is all throughout 2 and dies in 3.
>>62967814
W-what.
>>62963958
He wrecks Pre Vizsla in The Clone Wars.
>>62964133
It is almost like every business in the US exists to make money! When will these greedy capitalist pigs learn!
Hey guys here's an idea.
What if they had introduced Maul as Dooku's apprentice and Dooku would've been the one controlling the trade federation from the shadows. They could've also had Maul survive the first encounter with Obi-Wan to give him a goal and use Maul to replace Grievous to make up the Sith duo that are the main villains of the PT.
That would've given them both more background and also hidden Sheev's plan of playing both sides until ep3.
>>62968571
stop posting in my thread
>>62968571
I like the idea that Sheev was playing both sides equally, rather than just one side.
But it also confuses things with their being so many dark lords.
Dooku should have been a gray Jedi. That 'What if Episode II were good?' video had it perfect: he was a Jedi Master who was tempted by the dark side, so he went into the outer rim to cleanse his mind.
>>62968487
>Clone Wars is in the Disney Canon
Thank god they kept the good one, The Clone Wars was full of fucking awful CGI designs and stupid plots.
>>62968739
Other one
>>62963958
>What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
Very little about Episode I makes any sense. It's so tangentially related to Episode II / III that you can almost consider it a standalone star wars film since the only thing of any consequence that happens in it is that they find anakin skywalker. Palpatine would have used his insane senate manipulation powers to get the chancellor position in a few years regardless of what happened on Naboo. Hell are we even sure that he planned the Naboo fiasco to get the job? like what the fuck was that treaty supposed to do, it wouldn't have gotten padme in the senate to foster a vote to oust the current chancellor.
This movie is a goddamn headache.
>>62963958
>that shitty makeup around the horns
>>62968834
This. If you completely cut out Phantom Menace, the overall story barely changes. Anything that does happen in that movie could be explained in the other two, except maybe Anakin meeting Hershlag.
>>62964263
Did he die?
He got cut in half, but Vader and grievous got fucked up to. Frieza keeps coming back, why not maul?
the Maul and Death Watch team up was some good shit
>>62969845
Boy are you in for a treat
>>62971627
what is this? 9gag?
>So I just watched the Casino Royale for the first time. Is that really the beginning and end of Le Chiffre? What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
>So I just watched the The Lion King for the first time. Is that really the beginning and end of Mufasa? What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
>So I just watched the Die Hard for the first time. Is that really the beginning and end of Karl? What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
>So I just watched Jurassic Park for the first time. Is that really the beginning and end of Muldoon? What the point of bringing him in, telling us nothing about him, then killing him?
>>62969845
this
As far as we know Maul's race could survive some hardcore shit. Losing a body and surviving? Try losing a head #justmaulshit. He might be indestructible and able to regenerate his body like a worm
>>62964500
so many stories resemble video games much more than that
especially those level progression films like the one on a building and the train
>>62972276
>>62969845
You guys do know that he officially survived and got a cyborg lower torso right?
>>62968739
Wrong one. Also, from what I've heard, it gets much better around Season 3. And I've seen a couple of good episodes during Season 1 ("Rookies" being the best).
>>62972415
Who said that famm?
>>62972518
I did, it's why you're responding to my post?
>>62972518
The Clone Wars you dingus
>>62964068
uhm as far as I remember, boba fett was introduced in episode V and defeated in episode VI, ignoring the prequels where he got more screen time>>62964068
>>62963958
Yes, its universally agreed on that Lucas should have made him the main villain of the prequels (ultimately dying at the end of EP III of course)
>>62964640
Oh Jesus you weren't kidding, how did they not catch that?
