https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-PdhARgL0c
>>62920573
>He just speaks his mind and he doesn't care
>"You go to make a movie and all you do is get criticized"
ok
>>62920605
George, what are you doing in this little square??
>>62920676
>"You shit all over people's childhoods with a shitty fuckfest like Jar Jar Binks or some fucking clown like Hayden and all you do is get criticized.
ORLY
>>62920573
Jarjar is the key to all this
>>62921151
inb4 prequel apologists
>>62920573
"let me put it to you this way: Suck my balls, Charlie."
lol this guy is off his rails
What the hell is he talking about? this new movie looks like it's way more about the generations and family problems than the political bullshit in the prequels. why's he so bitter?
he also wasn't interesting most in telling a story with the prequels. he was interested in showing off what his computers could do and pushing the technology.
>>62921305
He may have gone too far in a few places
George is the one who made the Star Wars saga's story. These new films will be hollow, pointless, money-grubbing ''fan service.''
>>62921448
Yeah, since the last three Star Wars movies he made wasn't what you described at all right?
his rambling and unfinished fragments is like poetry to the ears bravo lucas
>>62921520
You might not have liked the prequels but they had a purpose. Which was to expand on the back story of Vader/Anakin and his rise to evil.
These sequels are not a part of the original vision of his franchise and are nothing more then disneys new cash grab.
>>62921556
>These sequels are not a part of the original vision of his franchise and are nothing more then disneys new cash grab.
I completely agree.
But the prequels were still completely unnecessary, Darth Vader didn't need any more backstory than what was told in the originals.
>>62921448
>George is the one who made the Star Wars saga's story.
You know that isn't true.
>>62920573
Based Lucas. Who gives a fuck, fucK Disney.
>>62921151
It's odd because he said "I may have gone too far in some places" but then every time he talks now it seems like he is totally unaware of why people don't like those movies... Is he a sperg /tv/?
>>62921726
most definitely
>>62921556
After reading through all the old story notes for Empire and Jedi with Lucas and Kasdan, I'm starting to think he tried to give the fans what he thought they wanted with the prequels.
Most of the ideas - have to be born a certain way to use the force, Yoda fights with a lightsaber, etc - seemed to come from Kasdan. Lucas was originally totally against both of those ideas.
In fact, after reading those notes I'm thinking it was a bad call on Disney's part hiring Kasdan as their lead writer. The last big thing he worked on was Dreamcatcher, the Stephen King adaptation...
>>62921632
Search your feelings
>>62921726
With the kind of fuck you money he has, he hasn't anyone tell him "no" in decades.
>>62921827
>have to be born a certain way to use the force
This a midichlorians are the things I hate the most about the prequels, it completely ruins the mysticism about the force.
Learning to use the force is more of a metaphor for when becoming a man and growing up, and deciding if you want to use your influence for good or evil.
>>62921827
>Most of the ideas - have to be born a certain way to use the force, Yoda fights with a lightsaber, etc - seemed to come from Kasdan. Lucas was originally totally against both of those ideas.
Interesting. I remember some audio transcripts where Lucas was explaining the backstory and said that Yoda was like a wise sage and didn't fight, he only trained others.
Maybe you're right and Lucas changed his mind because he thought it would be crowd-pleasing. He did make a comment in the Episode I making-of about how everyone's waiting for Yoda to pull out his lightsaber.
SPIKE DIES!
>>62922100
xDD
It's like it's really /a/ in 2007
>>62922124
s-sorry, I was just about to post a spoiler in another thread in which I could be identified by the post.
no matter of many times I used spoilers I still have that fear in my guts that I fucked up and someone will make fun of me
I just picked a thread randomly, I'm so sorry ;-;
Did anyone else who grew up watching th OT in the 80s and early 90s always envision the Ep1-3 going way, way back before Vader?
Like, when I was a kid I always got the feeling that the Empire was something that had been running strong for a long ass time. And making it a relatively fledgling government in the PT kinda cheapened the Rebels' victory.
>>62921305
It's because George wrote an outline for episode 7 that involved Luke training his white son who would have been the main and JJ threw it out to make a kuck film
>>62922050
And a lot of his ideas, like Darth Icky, are just him clearly fucking around.
I think a lot of people go against the prequels so hard to look like they're fans of Star Wars. The old grognards that dominated the internet in the 90s and early 00s shat on prequels because NOT MUH CHILDHOOD JAR JAR IS WORSE THAN HITLER MUH 70S AND 80S. So that carried over to the new generation, full of people that were trying to fit in on message boards. And the next generation after that thought that everyone who was intelligent hates the prequels. So the modern consensus is that the prequels are clearly worse than the originals, when in fact the originals (sans Empire) were stunningly mediocre and prequels slightly worse than them.
Empire was the only really noteworthy movie of the series, and it was a dramatic shift that sets it clearly apart from the rest.
Seriously, you ask a normie what they think of the prequels, you won't get 1/10th of the vitriol you would get from a star wars fan or "fan."
>>62922209
I always imagined the Empire being more foreign. Like an invading country that had become larger and larger in star space.
>>62922297
His wife is black, he would have forced us the same shit.
>>62922357
No way man he is a reverse kuck. He is taking the black women to piss black men off with his superior white cock. It's not like they will breed interracial kids they are too old. He is just fucking black puss to rustle the black men. Pretty respectable. He already raised three white kids so he did his part.
>>62922050
The transcripts get posted here quite often. Lucas originally envisioned the Force as something anyone could tap into with sufficient training, like yoga or a martial art - but the only people who generally went to the monumental time and effort it took to master it were the Jedi and the Sith.
He also believed Yoda would never fight, and wasn't even a Jedi - rather he was like a spiritual mentor or yogi who taught aspiring Jedi the ways of the force.
Yoda being a Jedi and fighting was Kasdan's idea, he wanted it in the OT. Kasdan also thought the Force should be something you were born with.
I honestly think at this point the older, rustier, prozac-addled Lucas simply ran with what Kasdan and Spielberg suggested for the prequels as the fans always talked about liking their ideas best, rather than heeding his own advice and trusting his feelings.
>>62922209
Yes. I always imagined the Empire having been around for much longer and Obi-Wan's final confrontation with Anakin coming years after he'd betrayed the Jedi order and joined the Empire.
>>62922466
superior white bank account you mean
>>62920573
>Lucas wanted the 3rd Indiana Jones to be set in a haunted house
What the fuck.
>>62920573
>i just wanted to tell the story of how it happened
this is why the prequels are dull
they're not movies, they just "show what happened" like its a history lesson.
>>62922665
>I honestly think at this point the older, rustier, prozac-addled Lucas simply ran with what Kasdan and Spielberg suggested for the prequels as the fans always talked about liking their ideas best, rather than heeding his own advice and trusting his feelings.
Yeah.
This right here.
I also think personal issues made him question himself more than necessary and caused the stuff in the prequels about yoda being a fighter, etc. He wanted to please the fans.
The other half is just shit-tier art direction and cinematography, which is on the art director and the cinematographer.
If the OT was filmed as poorly as the prequels they would have not had the same impact.
Lucas problem was not surrounding himself with yes-men but surrounding himself with talentless suckers.
>>62922777
At least he tried to change up things.
A haunted nazi castle might've been cool.
Better than indy 4.
If you read the raiders transcripts you realize lucas is the only reason why the indy movies were great in the first place.
Spielberg and kasdan only had absolute shit ideas.
>>62922466
>It's not like they will breed interracial kids they are too old
>He doesn't know
someone needs to do a george lucas spurdo
>>62922932
>his white wife c u c k ed him and denied him children
>knocked up a black chick instead
Can you really blame him?
>>62920605
What have you done with my franchise, JJ?
>>62921827
He did please child viewers. Proof in any Star Wars youtube comment section where millennials all jump to defend the prequel trilogy. Looking at some of the scenes of the prequels (Jar Jar) I wonder if that was intentional.
>>62922963
nice thumbnail
>>62922777
Haunted mansion with a prized artifact from blahblah who ruled in the Garbage Dynasty and a ton of booby traps. His dad also wants to adventure, but is senile. Indy begrudgingly allows this to get him out of the nursing home. His dad is also more prone to seeing ghosts, but Indy disregards it as his dad's dementia. Eventually Indy gets frustrated at his dad and tells him to fuck off. Then a ghost spooks Indy, who then realizes his dad was right. Moreover, although his dad was senile, his dad is STILL his dad. Indy gets the artifact (throw in Nazis or whatever as a rival), and comes to terms with how little time his father has left. His father smiles, stumbles and Indy catches him. They talk until the sun rises, when Indy's dad tells him "I couldn't have asked for a better son," and passes in Indy's arms.
You could even throw in a character arc at the beginning, where Indy is easily angered (due to his dad's senility) and then goes through the stages of grief.
It's a nice movie for the kids, who learn to respect their dads, and a nice movie for the parents dealing with their parent's dementia.
>>62922844
While I agree that there's some very questionable cinematography and lighting thanks to Lucas insisting on the digital backlot (although given what I've since learned about his depression, I can't honestly blame him for not wanting to go through another hellish shoot like Tunisia's for Episode IV), the art direction and production design in the prequels is absolutely top-notch. There's so many amazing vehicles, suits of armour, monster designs, alien designs, architecture - all of which carry some of the spirit of the original movies, but sensibly establish their own identity and design philosophy - the problem is that most of those good designs weren't built practically and were made out of shitty early-2000's CGI instead.
>>62923029
you got the point senpai
Obviously he was pretty misguided with many of his choices when he was making the prequels, but I can't help but feel a bit bad about just how much people shit on him, I imagine it really would make you feel pretty sad. It'd be a weird thing to wrap your head around. You made this thing, and everyone hates you because you didn't do it "right"
>>62920573
>it's a soap opera
And that sums up why George was so out of touch by the time of the prequels.
The shitty acting
The retarded looking "sets" (in actual fact it was mostly CGI)
The clunky dialogue and scripting
All of it was soap quality.
>>62923049
>the art direction and production design in the prequels is absolutely top-notch. There's so many amazing vehicles, suits of armour, monster designs, alien designs, architecture -
My problem with the art direction is that it was too zany and full of itself.
Sure it looked sleak and nice but sometimes less is more and a more subdued approache would've been better.
>>62921151
>MUH CHILDHOOD
Can you autists fucking stop? The prequels were shit but if they diminish your appreciation of the OT you have something wrong with you
>Lucas as troubled genius surrounded by artistic enemies succumbing to commercialist pressure
This is a pretty dank meme desu. Lucas's rehabilitation carries on...
>>62922466
he made Red Tails
>I-I-It's not MY fault for making a shit movie with a terrible script, excessive CGI bloat and awful characters
>It's YOUR fault for not liking it! How dare you get upset? You just don't understand my genius! Pleasing the fanbase is wrong!
>>62923171
It does bring up the strange issue of where did all this technology go by the time of the original trilogy?
I remember at the time thinking it was stupid and irritating that C3PO and R2D2 and robots like them were in the prequels, but now what bothers me more is how they're the only thing from that time that really remains in the future of the OT. Especially when scenes on Tatooiene had this very much dirty junker aesthetic to them - there should be broken robots and stuff from the prequels everywhere
The timescale is weird. In the gap between the prequel trilogy and the original trilogy, everything changed, the look of everything changed, the politics changed, everyone forgot massive things that happened only a few decades prior, and now in the gap between the original trilogy and the sequel trilogy the amount that's changed is minimal.
>>62923319
It was always a plot point that the Empire controlled and suppressed technology, even in the earliest spin-off material from the OT.
That's why people remember the time of the Old Republic in the OT with a kind of rose-tinted nostalgia, it's like some glittering impossible fantasyland vs what the Empire have left them with.
>>62922209
>Jedis became legends in a 20 year span
>>62923425
I hate how I have to explain this to fucking everybody every time
when there's only 10k Jedi in a galaxy of 100 Quadrillion sentients it's really not hard for an authoritarian regime to convince most of the people that they didn't actually have any powers and were just a crazy cult. You just THINK the Jedi were everywhere because the prequels are all about them.
Remember, it's canon that the Clone wars were actually only a series of small skirmishes and there were only three million clones.
>>62920605
JUST
>>62923113
Just like the Original Trilogy
>>62923588
didnt they have a huge temple on the main planet or some shit
>>62923425
Yeah this bullshit too. Not even 20, I think Luke was supposed to be 16 in ANH.
>>62923588
Which would be fine if Sheev hadn't mentioned them several times in his speech where he establishes the galactic empire.
You don't think they had to learn that speech in imperial public school? It would be like Lincoln talking about Sasquatch in the emancipation proclamation.
>>62923588
>Jedi Temple right across the street from the Galactic Senate
>lel no one knew about em xD!
>>62923868
There's a Freemason Lodge outside of the US Senate, and a statue of a Confederate General who's irrelevant outside of his contribution to Masonry (Albert Pike). Yet people will tell you they're just a bunch of old guys with no real power anymore.
>>62923113
>in actual fact it was mostly CGI
It was mostly miniatures. CGI was for robots and other moving stuff. Hell even those shiny chrome ships were models. People jump on the cgi boat way to easily.
>>62923319
>It does bring up the strange issue of where did all this technology go by the time of the original trilogy?
It's still there somewhere? We see mostly military technology in OT and visit places that aren't really near civliziation; forest moons, snow planets, etc. Bespin the most futuristic place is pretty in line with the Flash Gordon esthetic of the prequels.
It's basically the difference between a Hummer and a 1930' Rolls Royce. The Rolls is pretty and sleek, but that blocky gas guzzling thing is the more advanced machine.
>>62923588
Uh huh, and when Qui-Gon casually waves his hand or keeps his "laser sword" on his belt the first god damn thing that a scummy junk dealer and an impoverished slave boy on a remote desert planet think of is Jedi.
And Nute Gunray and his cronies are genuinely terrified of them. So in a galaxy as large and populated as you say the Empire managed to quash any memory of it from every inhabitant in every corner?
And in AotC, regardless of how many of them there are there's no commotion or awe when they just casually walk into a bar, cut somebody's hand off and everybody seems pretty satisfied with "Jedi business" as the explanation. And that's not in some shithole cantina on tatooine that's the capitol planet.
>>62923868
>>62923675
>>62923857
>massive plot holes and the movie isn't even out yet
>>62923425
They are not legends. Its just that Han doesn't believe in the Force. Chances of running into a Jedi are slim and running into one that just happens to levitate something are even slimmer. And some sceptics like Han wouldn't even take that as proof.
There's a Pope in Rome and I bet we could find someone who thinks that Jesus was basically capeshit for jewish sheepherders.
>>62923986
>Hell even those shiny chrome ships were models
Are you sure about that? They're almost pure reflection, if anything they'd be first choice for CGI over other ships.
>>62924052
It isn't like people didn't know what the Jedi were, it's that they doubted their power. As most people would never see a Jedi in their life, it wouldn't be hard to make most people think they were just a cult of weirdoes
Obviously Admiral Motti would know that the Jedi existed but he scoffed at Vader's "sorcerer's ways" as being a sad devotion to an ancient religion and not actual power until he got choked
>>62920605
kek
>>62924249
Models.
>>62920605
please shop the brendan hair
>>62921151
HOW WUDE
>>62922466
>>62923233
That, and he also said Red Tails was a failure because America is still a very racist country that didn't want to see a film about black history.
>>62923986
>>62923319
The disparity in technology is probably on of the things I enjoyed between the PT and OT. That actually did make sense for me. I'm actually not even convinced the technology did downgrade in the time between, it all just seems a lot less ornamental than say the Naboo starfighters which look like they'd be more at home flying formation overhead a parade rather than seeing any large scale combat.
It kind of reminds me, aesthetically, of the difference between post and pre industrial revolution Russia. The Empire we saw in ANH was largely a military operation and as the budget for weopons increased evertyhing would appear a lot more bleak, austere, and spartan.
>Reminder that Lucas' VII would have starred a straight white male, once again,
>Reminder that Lucas would have saved Star Wars
>Reminder that JJ didn't cast the movie based on actors' ability, but because he 'wanted it to look the world' which makes no sense anyway, since SW is a fictional universe
>>62924647
Honestly, the "Luke" being a girl is a change I welcome. There's poetry, and then there's outright writing the exact same poem twice over. I don't see why anyone would be so against it. At least not until we've seen the movie and are able to judge how her acting is or how the story is. Same for Boyega. Him being black is a more superficial change, than Rey being a girl if you ask me. Though I admit his looks are pretty ape-like. That won't ruin Star Wars alone. It's a confluence of many bad ideas that would do that.
>anakin skywalker gives birth to luke
>>62924332
I can see how some would but Jabba and Watto both acknowledge the existence of the Jedi's (at least psychic) powers.
Jabba:"He's using an old Jedi mind trick"
Watto:"Minda tricks, they ino worka on me, babagoulle"
And even if their supposed space magic was scene as a hoax it seems as though they were still largely viewed as skilled fighters and natural leaders. I understand Palpatine's placing them in positions of leadership in the grand army of the Republic was largely a ruse make order 66 as efgective as possible but it seems like something the public at large would hear about.
>>62923985
Albert Pike is even on record stating that he is a satanist and DC is shaped like an upside down pentagram.
It's a shame that The Force Awakens is pretty much just a fan film. The shit with the villain saying he's going to finish what Vader started is so fucking infantile.
>>62924647
once the movies out everyones gonna forget this shit. we've just had too much time to sit and complain about it. unless boyega is bad in the movie which i doubt.
>>62924891
I have no idea, but for some strange reason I feel fucking bad for Lucas. Even if he fucked up the prequels, everyone just dumping the man who envisioned all of this because he is no longer good is sad.
>>62923029
Post the muslim one.
All of it aside.
Hack Lucas still looks good almost 2 decades on since the Prequels, still has his looks.
>>62925091
I wonder if selling Star Wars improved his health. He seems a bit slimmer than he used to be. His beard is no longer a device to indicate the separation between his neck and his face.
i fucking hate george lucas for those shit prequels and being an ass and editing the original trilogy but...
i so want to know what he thinks of the force awakens
>>62920573
>They weren't that keen to have me involved anyway.
Well at least he's honest about that
episode 7 is going to be nothing but hacky references to the originals. How can anyone WANT that?
>>62924876
To be fair, Watto and Jabba seem to be rather intelligent and perhaps even knowledgeable, not to mention they weren't stuffed to the brim with propaganda.
>>62926165
It's gonna be exactly like the Star Trek movies. It'll be "OK". 7/10. No complaints, but it won't set any new bars or have any impact on popular culture.
>>62921305
>he was interested in showing off what his computers could do and pushing the technology
Too bad he fucking failed that too.
>>62926345
>That perspective on the three at the bottom left
>>62925785
He's indifferent. It's someone else's product now
>>62926345
How long are the entries on the star wars wookipedia for those three at the bottom left
>>62926476
Pure fucking autism
He created the intellectual property. Of course he gives a shit.
say binks does become the final boss sith lord for maximum pottery, how would you handle it?
>>62926562
>pure fucking autism
Lol to react with such hostility at a minor comment, you've got to wonder who the real autist is.
OOOOOGA BOOGA WE JEDI NOW
>>62926599
A stupid comment. Think before you post, or if that's too hard, fuck off back to Reddit
>>62926579
I know the theory's all in good fun but Jar Jar's eyes there don't even look the same as the others
>>62921151
It's not a matter of shitting on childhoods, it's that his sequels were shite for the lowest common denominator. You could make an argument that he didn't even wait for the prequels before selling out thanks to Lando and the Ewoks, but those movies were good in spite of them pandering to the "urban" and child audience respectively because the rest of the material was good.
>>62926629
I wasn't the person you initially responded to, my friend, I'm just a kind stranger here to tell you to calm the fuck down you autistic little basement dweller.
>getting upset over star wars
lel
>>62926418
The longer you stare at the picture the more you can find wrong. There's just so much wrong that it's mindboggling someone oked this not once but several times.
It's from the fucking blueray release afterall.
>>62926345
10/10 reference in the filename. I guarantee nobody here gets it.
Lucas has a good hair line desu
>>62926660
Why do you give a shit if you we're the original poster?
Getting involved when it isn't even your business easily makes you the most pathetic of the three
>>62926345
>>62922873
Lucas is obviously an autismo with rich inner world and imagination. He has just always needed some level-headed people to polish those ideas or else the result is crystal skulls vortex.
>>62926667
no one gets snakes on the plane?
>>62921151
I watched the prequels as they released in theaters as a kid and loved every single one. I was obsessed with the Phantom Menace as a kid. Stop projecting.
>there are actually people in this thread giving Lucas an iota of credibility after watching the prequels
missa thinkin yousa real hat da black guy
>>62923265
Read it in his voice and immediately became angry.
>>62924936
Honestly, controversial opinion but I think the prequel trilogy will probably end up better than the new movies.
The prequel trilogy is poorly executed, but the ideas are okay. It still feels like Star Wars. Bad Star Wars, but it does connect nicely with the OT. I just get this feeling that TFA is going to be literal fanfiction and fanpandering. And not resemble what George Lucas envisioned.
>>62924647
Reminder that Attack of the Clones is still one of the worst Hollywood movies of all time.
