How accurate is the Aramaic and Latin spoken in The Passion of the Christ?
The effeminate Catholic depiction of Jesus is completely wrong. He did not have long hair.
This is how the Lord most likely looked.
>>62912329
How the fuck would we know?
It's not like we have recordings of Aramaic or Latin.
>>62912464
>green eyes on a paki/jew
>>62912464
And where have you heard this? Or did you just pull it out of your ass?
>>62912464
kenny loggins?
The language doesn't matter aslong as the Gospel is correctly shown.
Jesus did not stumble but the movie emphasizes that myth. He is also shown with only 1 eye open half the movie (Antichrist symbolism).
Satanic movie, wouldn't recommend it.
>>62912660
>He is also shown with only 1 eye open half the movie (Antichrist symbolism).
w-w-what?
>>62912660
JIDF pls go
>>62912464
[citation needed]
we all know jesus was a pure aryan man
>>62912652
I knew it
>>62912623
Catholic equated Jesus Christ as being Nazirite (the one taking an oath of never cutting your hair and never drinking any wine) but rather he is a Nazarene, i.e. a person from Nazareth.
Also, from Paul's teachings, having long hair for men is a shameful act
1 Corinth 11:14 King James Version
Does not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame to him?
>>62912746
An 8 year old girl drew that portrait.
She claimed to see Christ in a vision.
It also matches the shroud of Turin.
He was a carpenter, not a liberal hippie that most European drawings make Him out to be.
>>62912828
Except it doesn't. Animals that have courting involved in their mating often do so with their appearance, have larger features is dominant.
This movie is so bad
>>62912880
>comparing animals to humans
Evolutionist retard detected.
>>62912828
As i thought, a bunch of protestant garbage pulled out of your own ass.
God created man in his own image, Jesus is the perfect man, that's why he has long hair and a beard.
>>62912934
That's not long hair you moron.
Jesus had a lot of hair (like all Jews of the time) but it didn't go below the shoulders like a woman.
Catholics going directly against scripture, as usual.
>>62912934
>protestant garbage
I gave you a verse didn't I? please give me a verse if you'll be refuting what I said.
Also, Jesus made made wine as well as evidenced from the Wedding at Canaa which is his first miracle.
They would've both spoken Greek more often than not at that time, especially any Roman official.
The use of Latin and Hebrew was an artistic choice to create more juxtaposition
>>62912984
>>62913018
Where's the verse that says Christ had short hair?
Don't know about the Aramaic, but he used the wrong kind of Latin.
He used Church Latin, as opposed to the vulgar Latin they would have spoken.
Granted, they don't know how that kind of vulgar latin was spoken, but they could have used Classical
The Roman Catholic church is the Whore of Babylon.
Popes are antichrists and false prophets.
>>62912660
>Protestants commentating on films
>>62912828
>Also, from Paul's teachings, having long hair for men is a shameful act
Paul is a little bitch desu, clearly stuck in the closet.
>>62912931
>appeal to nature
>not that nature!
>>62912880
BIG
>>62913242
To be fair, protestants are literally the down syndrome kids of christianity.
>>62913116
Right next to the verse saying he then grew it out and it was long and he saw that it was good
>>62913242
>>62913401
Don't you have a Mary statue to worship, heretic?
>>62912828
>King James Version
Shitty translation m8.
Original greek verse:
ἢ οὐδὲ αὐτὴ ἡ φύσις διδάσkει ὑμᾶς ὅτι ἀνὴρ μὲν ἐὰν kομᾷ, ἀτιμία αὐτῷ ἐστι
He says kομᾷ which means "to cut and style hair", you are not allowed to style your hair like a woman, otherwise what sense would it make to say nature is against long hair when hair naturally grows long? If anything it's against nature to cut your hair.
>>62912329
Reminder that there was no Roman legion stationed in or close to Jerusalem in ~30 AD. The "Roman" soldiers should have been locally raised auxilia.
>>62913437
>God's inspired and preserved Word
>shitty translation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHcf3E8qOqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omEtycMrmlg
If you don't have a King James Bible, you don't have a Bible at all.
>>62913437
#rekt
>>62913437
>>62913517
samefag
>>62913490
>>God's inspired and preserved Word
Yes, but for those faithful, not protestant heretics, as proven by your king james bad translation.
>>62913423
Don't you have to make every other christian looking like a fool by denying evolution and making shitty movies?
>>62913538
Watch the videos you retard.
The KJV is well known for being the best Bible version.
All other versions have verses omitted or simply twist and perverse verses.
>>62912828
Who the fuck cares what Paul said? I'm pretty sure he never met Jesus Christ except during his ghost tour and he was blind during that iirc.
>>62912329
Not at all, they would have spoken Greek.
>>62912464
Jesus was a middle-eastern Jew.
If you saw that guy at the supermarket would you think he was a middle-eastern Jew?
>>62912464
>green eyes
ajjjj lmau
>>62912660
>>62912464
Christians are so fucking dumb
>>62913550
Evolution was debunked years ago you fucking retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyI-aQaXD0
>claims to be a Christian
>believes in secular myths and fairy tales
Catholic logic.
>>62913490
It's a shitty translation get over it. Why don't you just learn greek?
>>62913667
Evolution can be observed in nature, it's absolutely not debunked. We understand how it works very well, but its difficult to figure out the lineage of every species.
>>62913689
Why don't you just watch the videos and do some research?
KJV is well known to be the best Bible, for good reasons.
Your precious Catholic NIV has over 60,000 words gone, aswell as confusing Jesus with Lucifer.
>>62913725
Variation within kinds =/= Evolution
Kent Hovind and Trey Smith have already gone over this.
>>62913761
>Variation within kinds =/= Evolution
It's speciation, which is small-scale evolution. Evolution is based on the same principle, only on a larger scale both timewise and in terms of the differences.
>>62913586
Shroud of Turin face looks like a Middle Eastern guy.
>>62913761
Variation within kinds slowly separate themselves over millions of years, this can very clearly be observed in numerous instances. The problem is that it's just hard to find a full direct link because it's such a long process and bodies decompose.
Please take a biology course, I promise it's not a satanist conspiracy (lol). Also, please explain pic related.
>>62913725
That picture is the equivalent of growing toe nails.
That's not proof of evolution.
>>62913792
>speciation
You don't even have a proper definition of "species". Sometimes you refer it to a kind of animal, other times you use for different races/variations of a kind.
You're also going by a slippery slope. You see variations of an animal and automatically assume we all came from a rock 9 gorillion years ago?
It's wishful thinking and there is no scientific evidence for it. Evolution is a religion.
It's fine to believe your grandparents were monkeys - but don't call it science.
>>62913823
Shroud of Turin is also like a thousand years old.
>>62913833
>posting an image that was proven to be a fraud
Haeckel's gill slits was debunked years ago mate.
It's funny how evolutionists point to hoaxes to support their theory.
>>62913841
>That picture is the equivalent of growing toe nails.
It's really not. A bird's beak doesn't just grow like that over the course of time.
>Sometimes you refer it to a kind of animal, other times you use for different races/variations of a kind.
What the fuck are you even blathering about? Are you referring to a ring species?
>You're also going by a slippery slope. You see variations of an animal and automatically assume we all came from a rock 9 gorillion years ago?
Literally nobody said that. But judging from the use of the word "gorillion" I'm gonna guess that you're just baiting.
>>62913841
>That picture is the equivalent of growing toe nails.
No, the equivalent of growing toenails is change of that nature in a single specimen in a single generation.
That picture is an analogy to longer toenails being more effective in the local environment, and therefore being more effective for survival, thus a likely trait to be passed on to the next generation (evolution)
>It's fine to believe your grandparents were monkeys - but don't call it science.
>>62913899
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
>>62913859
>>62913823
>trusting a piece of strained carpet
>>62913566
Better than the original greek version?
>>62913952
>m-muh Alexandrian manuscripts!
Yes, because God would preserve His Word in a trash bin..
>>62913667
>the average protestant is this dumb
lmao. Anyway, enjoy hell.
>>62912464
NOW I GOTTA CUT LOOSE YOUR SINS KICK OFF YOUR SUNDAY SHOES
>>62913919
>spewing the same garbage that has been debunked by Kent Hovind in his 18-hour seminar videos
Not even gonna bother when the information is so easily accessable online.
>>62913729
And why don't you learn greek?
>>62913423
>Protestants
>Denying Christ (through the Eucharist)
>Denying the Holy Bible (by denying the deuterocanonical books, Luther calling for the burning of the Epistle of James)
>Denying the teaching of the Apostles (rejecting Tradition)
>Denying the communion of Saints
>Denying purgatory and praying for the dead
>Demonizing Mary
>Desecrating effigies of God, Jesus, Mary, Saints, and destroying biblical depictions and crucifixes
>The rapture
>Creationism
>The Earth is 6000 years old
>Anti-science
>Prosperity gospel
>Usury is OK!
>Once saved, always saved
>Just need to say you're Christian/believe in Jesus to be saved
>Predestination (born with a silver spoon and golden crucifix going to heaven or born poor and going to hell)
>Jews are God's chosen people (free from any blemishes and we all must be subservient to them and Israel)
>Schism is actively encouraged and readily practiced
>Rejection of all theology in favor of a shallow believe whatever you want to believe nonsense
>Personal relationship with Jesus trumps all (including the bible and church) telling you everything you need to know so don't ask them preachers questions
>"Born again" virgins
>"Call no one father"
>Completely reject Jesus' incredibly clear teachings on marriage and divorce (see Matthew 19:1-12) by allowing anyone to marry and divorce
>Rejecting the millennia-old Christian teachings on abortion
>Rejecting God's plan of female mothers giving birth to human life and male priests giving birth to spiritual life (through mass and the sacraments)
>Denying any and all sacraments
>Denying the Divinity of Christ and Trinity
>"Born again" "again" virgins
>Denying apostolic succession and allowing uneducated laity to preach (universal priesthood of all believers)
>Speaking gibberish and calling it tongues
>In league with the devil by wanting to rebuild a third temple for the Jews so they can bring about the end of the world and all its sufferings asap
>Referring to God or Jesus as female
>>62913981
No, god would only reveal the truth to a sect of Christianity that only exists because a greedy king wanted to divorce his wife and take all the cash from the monasteries for himself.
>>62914063
http://www.remnantofgod.org/666-char.htm
>Catholics
>Paganism
>Idolatry
>Rejecting the Genesis creation
>Worshipping Mary over Jesus Christ/God
>Traditions and vain repetitions
>Calling priests "Father"
>Child baptism
>Murdering over 50 million Christians at the stakes
>Working with Jesuits, Illuminati, Freemasons and other occult Satanic organizations
I can go on and on.
"Apostolic succession" is nowhere in the Bible. Your religion has nothing to do with Christianity.
You should call yourself Maryists or Peterists or Papists, but not Christians.
>>62913667
#BTFO
atheists and catholics got their ass teared apart in that video
god bless
Let's not kid ourselves, protestantism is the meme pop-culture version of christianity. Protestants are like those white american "hindus" and "buddhists" that play pretend.
If your so called evolution, is real why isnt this rock a monkey? explain that pinheads
>>62914154
Apostolic succession is absolutely in the bible, Christ built his church on Peter.
>>62912541
Yeah, totally not like the catholic church uses latin as its main language since literally forever.
>>62914154
So jesus and the isrealites were idolaters? k m8.
>>62912541
american education, everyone
>>62914154
>implying there's anything wrong with the freemasons
baka desu senpai
>>62914214
Protestants are actual real Christians who read the Bible.
Catholics are role-players and "Deus Vult" shitposters who worship a child-raping pope.
>>62912464
>long hair implies femininity
And that beard meant he had big titties, right?
>>62914154
>Linking me to conspiracy website, akin to linking someone to a Youtube video and claiming it's more truthful than the work of various theologians
>Biblical literalism (Genesis)
Also Apostolic succession is in the Bible, whereas the rapture (common Protestant heresy) isn't.
>>62913437
Americans BTFO
>>62914223
>>62914249
lol at the idiots who think Latin spoken by the Catholic Church today is the same as the Latin spoken in Roman times.
Or Aramaic, for that matter.
The Catholic Church founders used Ancient Greek, not Latin.
>>62914273
>Protestants are actual real Christians who read the Bible.
Not even close. Memetestants read the bible but they misinterpret it and think they know better than people smarter and more devoted than them and spread false teachings like "paul said long hair is against nature". You are a joke.
>>62913823
Put a hand with the index finger pointing upwards and you've got a typical ISIS fighter.
>>62914291
>Roman Catholic church fits all the descriptions of the Antichrist Beast system of Revelation
>I-it's just a coincidence1!1!!!
As for creation, the Bible is very clear. God made the world in 6 days. It's later reaffirmed by saying "THE first day". How many "first" days are there? Just 1.
It's impossible to take the creation story not literally, God made it simple for us to understand.
Both science and scripture points towards a Biblical creation story. Evolution is a myth that has been destroyed years ago.
Apostolic succession is nowhere in the Bible.
1. Peter was married.
2. Mary did not remain a virgin forever. She was a sinner like all of mankind yet you elevate her to a "goddess" which is blasphemy.
>christians debating with other christians over weather or not proven fact is indeed fact or not
>>62914372
>Both science and scripture points towards a Biblical creation story. Evolution is a myth that has been destroyed years ago.
DUDE WE RODE DINOSAURS LMAO.
>>62914372
>Both science and scripture points towards a Biblical creation story. Evolution is a myth that has been destroyed years ago.
reminder that there is now god and we are all of us, in the grand scheme, as significant as snails (which frenchies eat). basically, I fuck your god in the ass, familia.
you're so so so so so wrong. to believe in god is to deny the obvious truth (which is that there is, ultimately, only nothingness). aquinas was a fat hack who spread false hope. he has been eaten by worms so it's all good.
>87 replies
>3 posters
Jesus Christ you autists can't be serious
>>62914405
1. Inca drawings on pots literally shows people riding on dinosaurs.
2. Fresh dinosaur tissue has been recently found.
3. "Dinosaur" is a word invented in 1842. It means 'terrible lizard'. Before that, people knew them as dragons.
Why do you think all cultures and ancient civilizations have stories of dragons? Just a coincidence?
Even Alexander the Great found a giant lizard in his conquest of India.
>>62914463
it says 36, though.
>>62914463
There are 36 posters
>>62914486
>1. Inca drawings on pots literally shows people riding on dinosaurs.
Those were ancient aliens.
>>62914352
You mean the Orthodox Chuch.
>>62914510
I mean you're an idiot. Greek was the lingua franca back in the day.
>>62914510
The New Testament was written in Koine Greek.
>>62914535
No i mean the early chuch was orthodox not catholic.
Also no, greek was lingua franca in the eastern med, in the west it was latin.
>>62914385
>>62914430
Cognitive dissonance
Ever wonder why evolutionists never come up with any arguments? They only shitpost and throw logical fallacies.
Science is what you can observe and see.
Macro-evolution or Darwinism has never been observed, infact it violates the second law of thermodynamics.
>>62914486
Dinosaurs weren't even alive during the dawn of man. I'm pretty sure you're b8ing as apart from bible belt Amerifats, no one can genuinely dismiss actual scientific data and look toward sketchy sites and Youtube video slideshows as actual scientific data.
>Incan pots
>Using pre-Colombian artwork to imply that
>The same people that had pantheon of Gods, one of whom was a Sun with a meme face
>>62914505
>>62914605
don't bother
atheists/catholikeks are just baiting.
don't reply to them.
>tfw i feel sorry for being mean to the protestantfag
Sorry for being mean protestantfag, even though you are wrong.
>>62914583
the New Testament contains of twenty-seven books originally written in Koine Greek.
The Christian Bible was written in Greek.
Deal with it.
>>62914649
I'm right though.
You believe in a fairy tale (evolutionism) and I'm happy to educate you with scientific facts:
>Evolution Debunked
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
>Kent Hovind debunks Evolution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyI-aQaXD0
>Hovind destroys an atheist critic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wAxPG4WpN8
>Evolution is a modern fairy tale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjvuwne0RrE
>The Greatest Lie Ever Told
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1ufK04tjOI
>Evidence for a Global Flood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lktmmd7YnD8
Evolution is a religion. Yes, evolution is the faith of atheism because it replaces God with man. When you've conned yourself into believing that some kind of ancient slime morphed into progressively complex and directional life forms, you are in the realm of faith, not science.
If anyone can come up with any actual scientific evidence for evolution, post it.
Otherwise I'll just assume you're trolling/baiting.
>>62914731
Catholic status:
[ ] not rekt
[X] Rekt
the only reason catlicks believe in evolution is to please the secular world. they care about what the world thinks of them.
The bible said Satan is the prince of this world, and we Christians are not of this world (we look forward to heaven) and yet here you have catholics being carnal and worldly
God bless brother
>>62914731
>If anyone can come up with any actual scientific evidence for evolution, post it.
Please define evolution first.
>>62914372
>Mary did not remain a virgin forever
sauce?
I'm not catholic I've just never heard this
>it's a protestan get BTFO thread
>>62914731
Do you believe that you can breed dogs? How can you be so retarded that you don't see how nature naturally breeds all living organisms through natural selection?
>>62914790
Evolution has 6 meanings:
1. Cosmic evolution- the origin of time, space and matter, ie. Big Bang
2. Chemical evolution- the origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar and planetary evolution. Origin of stars and planets. No one has ever seen a star or planet form.
4. Organic evolution. Origin of Life.
5. Macro-evolution. Changing from one kind of animal into another.
6. Micro-evolution. Variations within a kind.
Only the last one is scientific, the rest requires faith.
When we talk about evolution we mostly mean point #5. This does not happen, infact it violates so many laws of nature it's not even funny.
There are many ways to refute evolution, like DNA, fossils, showing the flaws of radiometric dating, etc.
>>62915008
How about all of you just agree that you're all horribly unprepared to back up anything you have to say on the subject and just shut the fuck up.
>>62914731
>that image
I am triggered.
The modern monkeys are not the same kind of primates that existed when man was still a "close relative". They went extinct and/or evolved to the primated we know today.
Also, evolution isn't about "Improving" but "adapting". A "less evolved" version of an animal could survive to present day if they were more adaptated to their current enviroment than another more "modern" species. That's why we and other older primates survived but the australopithecus died.
>>62914996
Variations of an animal is NOT evolution.
Breeding dogs is not adding new information, you are not magically creating new stuff. You are selecting from a gene pool.
There is a limit, you can't breed a dog the size of Texas or as small as an insect. There is a limit to the DNA genetic code.
Evolutionists claim that animals evolve through mutations, but mutations are always a LOSS of code. It's getting worse, not better. Mutations are always harmful, not beneficient.
As for breeding, notice how all dogs are inferior to the original product: a wolf. Breeding is a scrambling of DNA, not evolution.
Guess what, dogs will always be dogs. They will never grow wings or turn into a whale. They do not have the genetic code to do that.
Friendly reminder that the scientific accuracy of Genesis is NOT important
God created all things visible and invisible, that's the only part that really matters
>>62915077
Why would your magical evolution be exempt from the law of entropy? We are getting worse, not better.
"Neanderthal" skulls are superior to ours in every single way.
>bigger brain capacity
>stronger bones
The more you eat, the stronger your jaw bones get. Those skulls have much stronger jaw bones which signify they lived much longer than we do (just as the Bible says).
What you call "Neanderthalls" were infact people from the pre-flood world, and they were not caveman as is depicted in your cartoons and comics.
The original man (Adam) was superior to us. The more you get down the lineage, the more diluted our DNA becomes and more fragile our bones.
Imagine a piece of paper, and making a copy of that paper. Then make a copy of the copy. Repeat and papers will constantly get more watered down and harder to read.
We are a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of the first human which was much greater than we are.
There is no evolution, there is entropy.
It is Satan that wants you to believe we are 'evolving', with the whole "ye shall be as gods!" thing.
>>62914964
all I'm seeing here is catholics getting BTFO
science points to creation and a young earth
>>62912541
>It's not like we have recordings of Aramaic or Latin.
>>62915243
#REKT
evolution is a hoax
>>62915243
Do you work in a Burlington Coat Factory store?
>>62915304
Audio recordings. Learn2 English.
>>62915243
>Why would your magical evolution be exempt from the law of entropy? We are getting worse, not better.
Evolution can go "better", because it isn't limited to fuel. Don't abuse the second law of thermodynamics, it's a logical fallacy, whether in the mouth of creationists or their opponents.
It's like saying a PC from 2015 can't be more complicated than a toaster from 1954.
Entropy is about energy, not information. Genetics is more information than energy.
>>62915243
>Neanderthal" skulls are superior to ours in every single way.
>bigger brain capacity
>stronger bones
As I've said, evolution isn't about what it's "superior" but about what is more adapted to a current enviroment.
And those aren't exacly pros if you are thinking about energy conservation and the protection of the brain (look up shaken baby syndrome).
>>62913437
>>62913517
It sets up a direct contrast in v. 15, "If a woman has long hair, it is her glory?"
Pls stop making stuff up out of context.
>>62912880
This also takes the idea out of context. Human features are mostly jawline and other dominant features.
>>62914685
Why should i deal with it when i know this and i agree with it? Where did i imply that i disagree?
What the fuck did I start when I made this thread?
>>62915646
Nice attempt at saving face.
Let's make a small list of evolutionist lies that have been debunked throughout the years:
1. Haeckel's embryo with "gill slits" photo. It was proven to be a fraudulant drawing.
2. The "geologic column" which was made up by 1 person. The funny thing is that all of the world's geology can be explained by a global flood (see Hydroplate Theory).
3. "Missing links", see image. There is no missing link, the ENTIRE CHAIN is missing. We should have billions of fossils showing transformation from an animal to another, yet we have zero.
4. Radiometric dating. It has been proven to be unreliable yet evolutionists constantly use to "date" things incorrectly. They also imply that radioactive levels have always been the same in the world (not taking into account the flood and its catastrophical changes to the world).
When anything comes up that suggests the Earth is 6000 years old, evolutionists scramble to suppress it and prevent people from seeing it. Carbon 14, fresh dinosaur tissue, tracing mankind (Adam & Eve all the way to 2000 adds exactly to a population of about 7 billion). Sea salt, erosion, sediments and geological formations that all point towards a global flood. Brimstone balls found in Jordan, chariot wheels found in the Red Sea, etc.
The reason you don't want to believe in creation is because you don't want to believe in God.
You want to do whatever you want so you'd rather believe you came from a rock [insert imaginary number of years] ago. Satan gladly helps you with his theory of evolution.
"Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator" Romans 1:25
"The fool has said in his heart, there is no God." Psalm 14:1
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" Romans 1:22
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie" 2 Thessalonians 2:11
"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts" 2 Peter 3:3
>>62915567
>"If a woman has long hair, it is her glory?"
Again uses the word kομᾷ
δὲ ἐὰν kομᾷ δόξα αὐτῇ
way too tryhard
>>62915671
Where can I find this fresh dinosaur tissue?
>>62912845
>shroud of Turin
You do know it's a proven hoax, right?
>>62915712
Yet, every translation lists "long hair".
>>62915753
>can't type "dinosaur soft tissue" in Google
>>62913018
>first miracle
Wasn't he bringing animals back to life well before he was a teen?
>>62912464
>>62912828
>>62913423
>>62913490
>>62913667
>>62914154
>protestant heretics
>actual Christians
Proof the Earth is 6000 years old.
1. Population: The rate of population growth has been steady for the time that we have records. The present six billion is the right number of people to have multiplied from the eight survivors of the universal flood about 4400 years ago. If man had been around for millions of years, the same growth rate would have produced 150,000 people per square inch of land surface.
2. The planets are losing heat. If they had been formed millions of years ago, they would have no internal heat left given the present rate of heat loss. If a hot cup of coffee were left standing for 400 years, it would have no internal heat left.
3. The planet Saturn is losing its rings. They are slowly moving away. If the planet were millions of years old, the material in the rings would have dissipated long ago.
4. The moon: Space dust accumulates on the surface of the moon at the rate of about one inch for every ten thousand years. Astronauts found an average of one-half inch, just about what you would expect in six thousand years. Also, the moon is very slowly moving away from the earth. If it were millions of years old, it would have had to start very close to the earth, causing ocean tides so severe it would have drowned every thing on land twice a day.
5. Comets: As comets travel through space they continually shed some of their material. Any comet more than 10,000 years old would have long since disintegrated into nothing.
6. Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe.
>>62915831
7. Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of one thousandth of a second per day. At this rate a billion years ago it would have been spinning so fast that centrifugal force would have caused it to fly apart.
8. Petroleum in the ground is under tremendous pressure. The rocks that contain it are porous. If the oil had been there for millions of years the pressure would have dissipated long ago.
9. The oldest living plants, the bristlecone pine tree and the coral reefs only go back about 4500 years. If earth had existed for millions of years, why aren't there older plants still alive?
10. Ocean salt: Now at 3.8 percent, the salinity of the oceans would have been much greater. The present rate of increase points back to a beginning about six thousand years ago.
11. Evolutionists point to stalactites in caves as proof of an old earth, but there are stalactites in the basement of the Lincoln Memorial several feet long that have grown in less than 100 years.
The evidence continues to accumulate, exposing the evolutionist's erroneous assumptions. Yet, in blind faith, they cling to their absurd theories rather than accept the Biblical record of creation.
>>62915085
For a while I thought people on 4chan were trolling with all this anti-science stuff and christian stuff.
Either it is a very elaborate ruse that people put a lot of time into or I share this site with idiots. I'm gonna pretend its the former.
>>62915436
It be fair entropy can be about information in the cryptography field or in other informatic fields.
But it still doesn't say anything about evolution lol. Doesn't make that guy any less full of shit
http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/378/what-is-entropy
>>62915869
You suffer from cognitive dissonance.
>>62915799
And you have credible links for as well?
Anyone can photoshop shit together.
itt: cognitive dissonance
>>62915937
>>62915937
Have you studied any of the things you are talking about? Or do you work at Target? Genuinely curious what someone with this mind set does professionally.
Likely you are like me, 20 something, work in a white collar job, shitting the day away trolling on 4chan.
>>62915436
Strawman. There's no argument in this post about genetics.
>>62915824
>Protestants
>Herectics
This is what Catholics actually believe. Nevermind their tyranny has ruined the European continent for far longer then Islam has.
Checkmate evolutionists.
>>62916047
The catholic church is one of the pillars of western civilization. Typical that jews and their protestant lackeys that worship them would want to destroy it.
Jesus christ, are people actually serious with this "evolution is a myth" bullshit? Not only you are straight up heretics for not following the one true Church of God that is Orthodox, but you also fail to grasp notions that a 5th grader handles with ease.
>>62915860
>>62915831
>>62915671
>must have been
>would have been
>was proven
WHERE. IS. THE. EVIDENCE. FAGGOT?
>>62916114
>jews and their protestant lackeys
Have you ever read Luther on Jews m8?
>Pillars of western civilization
Wat.
>>62916078
That is pretty amazing.
Catholicism in a nutshell:
1. Roman empire persecutes Christians and attempts to wipe them out. Doesn't work because the faith continues to spread
2. Constantine "converts" to Christianity and the Roman empire becomes "Christian". Adds all sorts of unscriptural doctrines, pagan traditions and philosophy to make this new religion more attractive to pagans.
3. Vóila: Roman Catholicism is born.
A mix between paganism and Christianity, it was Rome's way to continued survival.
Satan couldn't destroy Christianity so he infiltrated and corrupted it instead.
Thank God for the Reformation and the revival of true Biblical Christianity.
Many lives were lost. Many martyrs killed by the Catholics for simply reading the Bible and believing in Jesus Christ.
>>62912613
You do know Pakistan is almost 2000 miles from where Jesus lived?
>>62916173
>Have you ever read Luther on Jews m8?
So you're a lutheran then? Then you accept faggots and female priests, topkek
Daily reminder that Catholics have Jesuits that are literally trained to assassinate and murder real Christians.
Daily reminder that Catholics worship the pagan goddess of fertility disguised as "Mary".
Daily reminder that the pope wears a Babylonian fish hat which refers to Dagon the sea god (Satan).
Daily reminder that Catholic priests fuck little children.
>>62916219
I'm agnosticinb4 fedora, Calvinist by birth. 1579 never forget.
>>62916205
Let me fix that for you:
1. Roman empire persecutes Christians and attempts to wipe them out. Doesn't work because the faith continues to spread
2. Constantine converts to Christianity and the Roman empire becomes Christian. Gathers all wise and learned christian leaders to remove made up extra canonical shit and define what is christian and what is made up crap
3. Orthodox Church is born
4. centuries later it splits and it's western half becomes corrupt, catholic church is born
5. a little while after luther becomes fed up with the corrupt shit so instead of coming back to the true church he invents his own because he thinks he knows better and is smarter than thousands of others before him
6. then everyone and their mom invents their own church that even luther becomes sickened with what is happening and viola protestantism is born
>>62913615
Wouldn't that crush his body?
>this thread
>>62915831
>>62915860
I was going to write a long point-by-point reply to this, but then I realize it as basically the same argument used over and over, so I'm just going to sum up this whole thing as: Rates of degenation must be constant because I say so, which is retarded.
>>62916392
Baptist > Orthodox > Catholic
Fundamental Bible-believing Christian is the most purest form of Christianity.
Orthodoxy atleast has no retarded pope or central power, you have local elders which is exactly what Paul set up throughout minor Asia.
>>62916458
>Rates of degenation must be constant because I say so
But that's exactly what evolutionists say when it comes to dating methods.
>>62916491
>baptists think alcohol is a sin
>jesus drank wine
into le trash you go
>>62916527
Drink in moderation.
There are plenty of verses that say to be sober and not a drunken fool.
>>62912464
Looks like a typical sand nigger getting ready to allah Akbar himself
>>62916491
Baptists are the best protestants imo.
>>62916448
The theological descussion about Catholicism versus Protestantism is really fun cuz both can cherry pick their little quotes to support their won preferences, because, suprise suprise: The Bible wasn't writen by a single person or a single "Inspirational Vision".
62914486
>Dinosaurs' iron-rich blood, combined with a good environment for fossilization, may explain the amazing existence of soft tissue from the Cretaceous (a period that lasted from about 65.5 million to 145.5 million years ago) and even earlier.
Faggot.
Why isn't there a /rel/ board yet?Watching a FFA Christian shit-flinging fest with the occasional Fedora joining amuses me.
>>62916582
>Green Eyes
>sand nigger
Have you even seen sand niggers IRL?
Christ has white woolly hair right now, which this pic >>62912464 proves. He has wool hair here.
When He returns for His bride and to exact wrath and justice on the unbelieving world, He will have blazing fiery red eyes and white hair.
>>62912329
Almost nobody should have been speaking Latin.
>>62916680
>m-muh geologic column
Into the trash your debunked shit goes.
>>62916692
technically religious and "philosophical" baiting should go on /his/ now
but then again political baiting should go on /pol/ and that hasn't really affected /tv/
Catholics are insane.
They base their entire religion on ONE single verse about Peter, which they have misinterpreted and taken out of context.
Out of a single verse they based an entire religion.
Catholics are retarded.
>>62912845
>An 8 year old girl drew that portrait.
>The parents of an 8 year old girl drew that portrait and pretended it was her daughter
Fixed that for you fellow believer
>>62916734
Sure have! Spent three years fighting them on their homeland. Saw plenty of blonde hair/blue eyes and green eyes.
Christian tier list:
Top tier: Christ. This is the only tier because Christ was the last Christian.
Paulite tier list:
Trash tier: Catholics, Orthodox
Shit tier: Lutherans
Poison tier: American Fundamentalist
Cancer tier: Luther
Ebola tier, may his name be cursed for all of eternity: Paul
>>62917070
>>62916609
There are actually very few countering ideas from the New Testament.. if any. Implying that the major bases are controversial is a bit ludicrous.
>>62914583
No it wasn't. Greek was the lingua franca in the Western Roman empire back in the days of the Republic.
>>62917034
Why would they lie?
There was no money or fame involved.
The 8 year old also spoke very genuinely.
It's easy to tell if a child is lying.
>>62917155
Nope, only the elites knew Greek and hired Greek professors for their kids. The masses spoke vulgar Latin.
On the other hand Greek was spoken throughout Asia Minor in the 5th century. It was actually very ironic to see the Byzantine Empire call itself Roman Empire despite that nobody spoke Latin except the educated few.
>>62912329
>covering jesus niples
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>>62917279
That's not Jesus, it's an actor.
>>62917244
Who cares about the masses lol
>>62914605
>infact it violates the second law of thermodynamics.
Holy fuck are you fucking kidding me with this shit? You understand this doesn't constantly apply to every minute thing in the universe? Otherwise the world would be completely fucked by now.
>>62917279
>implying
>>62917185
>being this gullible
there's dozens of Indian kids that claim to remember their past life before this reincarnation. I guess Hinduism is correct
>There was no money or fame involved.
There's definitely fame involved, even if it's something as little as making your kid the center of attention in church because of some experience she thinks she's had. Not to mention the boy who claimed he went to heaven who got a best selling book and I think TV movie out of it, that's definitely fame and money
>The 8 year old also spoke very genuinely
OK? It's an 8 year old, it's very easy to convince them of things with the right forms of suggestion. In the 80's there was a massive panic about satanist cultists in schools because kids gave very convincing testimony about them. Surprise surprise it turns out there weren't any satanist cults and it was just investigators and the community hyping things up to the point that kids started actually believing it
>>62917185
Because attention whoring and scamming into faith.
As the child growths and the brain develops, so the childs perception changes. And with change in perception the human brain learns to express itself differently. A 4 year old sucks at perspective and anatomy, if it wants to draw that shit. A 8 year old would be slightly better, but it depends on personal experience. Still, most of the time you have to be older than 8 years to wrap your head around art and how you realise it.
>>62917185
>Heaven is totes for real, Guys!
as a fluent speaker of both, I can confidently say it was spot on
especially the bit where Jesus calls the other guy a huge faggot who should die in a fire to be quite honest family member
the accent was a bit wonky ... but other than that he was spot on
>>62917526
God loves all of his children equally
>>62912660
One eye represented His presence in the physical world as one like a son of man; this eye suffers physical damage, but still opens at times in the latter half of the film. The other eye? Well that was the eye representing His presence in the divine realm.
This is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. You lot couldn't figure it out, though, because you can't Google this explanation. This generation is pathetic, and it is doomed.
>>62912464
This guy speaks the truth
The only reason that most people think that Jesus has long hair was because thats how he was depicted in Renaissance paintings
The Renaissance was a rediscovering of Greco-Roman culture, and a lot of men in the times of Ancient Greece and Rome were quite effeminate.
>>62912613
I'm Sardinian and I have green eyes
>>62912464
Jesus was black.
>>62915085
>As for breeding, notice how all dogs are inferior to the original product: a wolf. Breeding is a scrambling of DNA, not evolution.
I'm a creationist, but the theory of evolution isn't about something improving; it's about how living things survive their environment. Individuals in a population that can't hack it, don't pass on their genes.
The fact that the dog population far outnumbers the wolf population is a testament to the fact that the dog is more fit than a wolf to live in a world that humans dominate.
>>62918666
Jesus built my hotrod. It's a love affair, mainly Jesus and my car
>>62919057
>I'm a creationist
>>62915671
Isn't that a page from a Chick comic book?
I love his art, but sheesh. What a crackpot that guy was.
>>62919113
>was
Jack Chick is still alive.
>>62912329
Very accurate they had linguistics experts teach the actors.
That movie makes me cry during the torture and the cross bearing. I never well up but for some reason those scenes just had me crying.
>>62919087
So, you say that I'm not a creationist, simply because I demand that both sides mount an even-handed and honest argument?
>>62919167
>Jack Chick is still alive.
Alright, but how should that change what I said? I have never read anything of his published after 1990, so all of my knowledge of him is in past tense.
>>62919334
I was sobbing and snotting during those scenes. It was way worse than "Up" for me.
Some dumb ass young couple decided to bring their 3 year old with them to see Passion of the Christ. Why do they do this
>>62917070
>Paulite tier list
The correct adjective is "Pauline"
>>62919477
Jack Chick is still alive and hasn't moderated his views.
>I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too
>>62919356
So you want evidence from both sides? But you say you're a creationist, a side that doesn't have any evidence to support it? I don't even know how to comprehend that.
Do you legitimately believe that a man in the sky or some "higher power" or whatever created every single living thing? Do you deny evolution e en though it's supported by a lot more evidence than something crating everything?
>>62917244
>vulgar Latin.
So, you think Latin people are vulgar? You racist.
>>62919642
>Jack Chick is still alive and hasn't moderated his views.
That's a far more useful statement. I thank you.
>>62919649
>So you want evidence from both sides?
When did I say evidence? Neither side has compelling evidence. Both sides, however, have an argument, and there's no room for erecting strawmen
Creationists:
>you think we came from chimpanzees. Why do chimpanzees still exist?
They don't say we come from chimps; they say that chimps and humans come from the same ancestor.
Evolutionists:
>the Bible says the earth is 6000 years old.
No, it doesn't. Dates are not mentioned in the Word of God; that 6000 year thing is the result of:
>1: some guy's weird calculation based on the idea that, in the Biblical genealogies, "father" necessarily means "one-generation paternal ascendant"
I'm of African descent. If I say I'm a "son of Ham," does that mean that Japheth is my uncle? No, it doesn't.
>2: the idea that the apocalyptic millennium plus the age of man should equal 7000 years
Says who?
>>62919688
I'm sure you could have figured that out from context if you'd bothered to try, but it's possible your neurons have been trained to rely on external utilities to make normally obvious connections. I'd normally feel annoyed, but in consideration I just feel pity.
Any normal people ITT? You all seem like freaks. I wish to speak with a normal person about the subject of this thread.
>>62920089
...
I have no idea what you're trying to convey
>>62919649
>I haven't read about scientific creationism
>>62920246
That's because you're lazy and stupid.
>>62920187
Is that your usual reaction to a "thank you"?
Wow. Someone needs a big hug
>>62916932
What's the verse
>>62920458
>wah, someone responded to my passive-aggressiveness with aggression
Grow a) up and b) a set.
>>62913242
Calvary is not a catholic movie. McDonagh himself said that it is an anti-authority film. It has social commentary on the catholic church, and as such is not essentially catholic. Father James is a mythical Jesus-figure but not an allegorical one. Calvary uses the easter story of the gospels (with the least amount of material from John) as an inspiration to the narrative, but not the theological content. Usage of christian mythology does not make a film christian nor from a certain denomination.
Did my bachelor's thesis on Calvary, step up nigga.
>>62912329
You'd think The Machine would have warned him about this.
>>62919661
Check your pleb privilege before you make ignorant remarks like this. I can't even, I'm so done!
>>62913227
popes aren't prophets you stupid prot. return to the truth and abandon your foolish ahistoric ways
>>62920529
>inspiring you to improve the clarity and thus the effectiveness of your posts is an act of passive-aggression
Victim much?
>>62920959
>inspiring you
If you're what amounts to my muse, then yes, I do feel victimized.
>>62920216
Yes, hello!
I don't know about ancient languages so I can't really say if the movie is accurate, sorry.
>>62920463
Matthew 16:18 (also 19) (including other verses for context)
(KJV)
>13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
>14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
>15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
>16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
>17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
>18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
>19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
>20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
>>62912541
Not as stupid of a question as the people replying to you seem to think.
It's hard as fuck to know how ancient versions of languages were pronounced and what accents were like.
However you can guess how languages were pronounced through common misspellings (people trying to spell phonetically) and through stuff like poetry (if you read Shakespeare you can see words that are meant to rhyme that don't in modern English but it's obvious how they used to be pronounced).
I watch this film every night before going to bed. It's so purgative, though I wouldn't call it totally cathartic.
>>62912541
>>62921433
In 200 years archaeoacoustics will dramatically change history as we know it.
>>62912329
Jesus looks like he competed in the light tube deathmatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcA2njtApjY
>>62913035
Nah, they were poor and uneducated people, so they would've known just few phrases of greek max.
>>62921462
>I watch this film every night before going to bed.
dude thats fucking creepy .. bunch of weirdos in this thread .... yikes
>>62921462
You'd be better off reading the bible every night if you want to be a better Christian
>>62921914
I've read the Holy Bible front to back in various translations and also most notable commentaries, multiple times. I think I'm a pretty good Christian, even though I don't believe. I don't watch the movie nightly as proof of virtue, I do it because it's a good emotional dump.
I used to watch Fletch Lives every night but that wasn't as satisfying.
>>62921433
>if you read Shakespeare you can see words that are meant to rhyme that don't in modern English but it's obvious how they used to be pronounced
That's quite the extrapolation, that they were spoken because they were made to rhyme.
>>62916218
Well I guess they just drove down there and picked up a new set of eyes
>>62922152
Shakspere wrote large swaths of KJV
i never saw this flick, is it any gud?
>>62924206
It's not for you.
>>62924222
but i love braveheart..
