Great atmosphere
Great acting
WW2 film not about Yanks for once
That sex scene
>what's not to like?
All the cliches and tortured dialog and acting?
>>62906313
>muh historical accuracy
but yeah, entertaining movie, and who doesn't love a traitorous little shit getting his just deserts?
>DUDE LMAO GERMANS WERE BAD FOR WANTING TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM BOLSHEVIST SAVAGERY
>STALIN DINDU NUFFINS
>>62908020
>the only thing Germany did wrong was lose
;___;
No one having at least accents?
>horrible romantic subplot
>defamation of danilov and konig
>vassili is a fuck up
>annoying kid who deserved to die
>a waste of a potentially interesting concept
The biggest surprise for me was looking at the budget.
>>62908020
>>62908025
Get a room you fucking queens.
>>62908020
>he thinks that communists and national socialists are not the same thing
The enemy wasn't at the gates they were inside the city.
German Jews were the largest group of soldiers in the German army during the first war.
>>62908130
They're polar opposites on the political spectrum you half wit
>>62908106
>hanging out in Jodhpurs with your BAOO (before any other obersturmfuhrer) is gay
Jealous
>>62908156
kek
>>62908185
>both extreme leftist socialist statist ideologies
>polar opposites
sure
>>62908224
>both extreme leftist socialist statist ideologies
Good luck with that shit.
>>62906313
>europoors inferiority complex is so massive he has to pretend like this mediocre trash that only was made to try in cash in on the massive wave of WW2 media created by Saving Private Ryan
lol
>>62908185
this is "you only use 10% of your brain" tier though
>>62908337
>violent rejection of marxism in favor of a quasi-feudal fantasy in which any will to dissent in the lower classes is suppressed by sheer national pride despite vast economic inequality
>socialism
sure bro
>>62908475
meant for
>>62908224
>>62908475
>quasi-feudal fantasy in which any will to dissent in the lower classes is suppressed by sheer national pride despite vast economic inequality
LITERALLY Pol Pot
>>62908475
>>62908475
There's nothing feudal about social nationalism, in fact it could be argued that feudalism and natsoc ideology go against each other
>>62908475
You just described every socialist dictatorship in history including Stalinism and Maoism.
National Socialism was a syncretic movement that incorporated elements from both the left and right. The traditional political spectrum doesn't apply to radical traditionalism.
>>62908164
And jews led a communist civil war against German people in 1918
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319
>>62908615
This. It took nationalism and pride in your country and people of nationalism, and the "help your neighbor" shit from socialism, hence the name
The only real difference it has with communism is that it was honest about what it was, and communism doesnt have the racism shit.
All the sniper scenes were 10/10.
Every part where people had to open their mouths and actually talk or express feelings was mind-numbing.
>>62908020
>being this gay and wrong
The whole movie shows how shit Stalinist Russia was too.
>>62908615
in theory
but not in practice
>>62908574
territories under nazi control were turned into quasi-fiefdoms and their long-term goal for german society was to "regain" a fantasy state of idealized feudalism in which a king (wealthy industrialist) is as proud of being a king as a peasant (industrial worker) is of being a peasant, and the state proceeds harmoniously as everyone just "knows their place".
>>62908730
How is this different other than the State just sponsored a certain industry leader, instead of murdering everyone and the state itself doing it?
Like wouldnt nazism be the government going to Bill Walmart and telling him he is now the guy in charge of all supermarkets, eliminating all other businesses, and making walmarts the only ones and supported by the government
and communism would be them killing Bill Walmart and every other supermarket owner, and then making their own supermarket chain
>>62908597
stalin and mao were anti-marxist quasi-feudal nationalists? they weren't very socialist then, were they?
>>62908764
>and the state proceeds harmoniously as everyone just "knows their place".
you were right up until here.
>>62908788
>not muh real communism!
here we go...
>>62908764
>were turned into quasi-fiefdoms
Wrong.
>their long-term goal for german society was to "regain" a fantasy state of idealized feudalism
Wrong again.
Maybe reddit is more suited for you.
>>62908447
the nazis and the communists literally sat at the opposite ends of the reichstag and considered each other mortal enemies. if only you could go back in time to tell them they're totally the same thing! they could have formed a coalition in '32 and ruled jointly as nazi communists instead of sitting uselessly in a deadlocked parliament.
>>62908506
literally not tho
>>62908788
They were socialists.
And they openly honored Marx, but since his drivel theories have no application in reality they did their own thing anyway.
They applied their own version of totalitarian socialism in their countries, the same way Hitler did in Germany.
>>62908857
Try telling me how they were "COMPLETE OPPOSITES DUDE I HEARD THAT ON /b/ ONCE SO IT MUST BE TRUE"
>>62908659
nope, the german people led a social democratic war against the ineffectual monarchy. good job seeing the jews as your secret masters
>>62908856
>wronk! u redid!
nice talking to you child
>>62906313
>In english
otherwise great
>>62908932
>>62908915
>>62908910
Kill yourself SJW
>>62908884
so how are any of these regimes meaningfully socialist to you if you're saying they all openly or covertly rejected actual socialist thought as developed by marx?
>>62908910
i already told you
>>62908915
Is this why the social democrats literally employed nationalist militias to crush the communist uprising in berlin, munich, the rur area and elsewhere? Lel
>>62909028
>rejected actual socialist thought as developed by marx?
Because anyone with half a brain realizes Marx was an idiot and his ideas were retarded, but they get clueless and desperate plebs to support them basically becoming king by promising them anything they want to hear
Then even after this happens time and time again, communist still sit around wondering "Next time we'll get it right!"
>>62908982
SJWism is a liberal capitalist ideology. why do you pair it up with a picture of a wannabe maoist? you seem very confused.
>>62909028
Is it some kind of metaphysical socialist dogma that only whatever Marx said is socialism and the rest is anti-socialist heresy?
Because socialism as an idea preexisted to Marx.
>>62909046
>they sat on opposite sides!
Just admit you dont know shit and are just parroting something you heard
>>62909072
you have not answered my question. why are you calling these totalitarian regimes "socialist" in the same posts in which you argue that they were not?
>>62909094
people sitting on opposite sides of a room is the source of the idea of a political spectrum. the seating is derived from where the parties see themselves on that spectrum.
>>62909079
okay. how were these regimes (of hilter, stalin, mao) meaningfully socialist while also being, openly or covertly, anti-marxist (as was claimed above)? be specific.
>character are noble
>Nazi evil as hell
>Soviet Russia evil as hell
>the nice girl is a Jew
>she will go to Israel after the war
I just can't
>>62908337
>national SOCIALISM
it was basically socialism but only for germans
>>62909298
the name is an artifact of the early development of the party, before hitler's leadership. the left-wing members were purged in the night of the long knives
>>62906313
>directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud
Zzz.
>>62908020
>there's a difference between socialists and socialists
>>62909442
Then he changed it to 'le evil natzee party gas da kikes XDDD', right?
>>62909535
what are socialists? i keep asking but nobody wants to tell me.
>>62909550
no, i guess the name was already too established to be changed. he did, however, have the actual socialists in the party shot in the face. actions speaking louder than words and so on.
>>62909552
The Swedish are somewhat socialists, but since the muslims will be probably taking control very soon in their country, I don't think they'll last for long.
>>62909600
So modern Sweden is like Nazi Germany? I live in Poland, should I be worried about a Swedish invasion? Will they want Danzig?
>>62909598
Purges of same party adversaries is a very common thing for the socialists tho.
That's probably an ulterior proof that he acted like a classic socialist dictator.
>>62909758
They are very watered down now, in the past when they applied eugenics they were more similar to the nazis.
The sniper scenes were the only great bits desu.
>Not watching the best Stalingrad movie
>tfwthe qt russian gets killed by friendly fire
>>62909778
so you're telling me that hitler killing the socialist members of the nazi party makes the nazi party more socialist and not less socialist. is socialism obi-wan kenobi?
>>62906313
Switched from a war movie into a drama with a shitty love triangle.
>>62906313
the sex scene made this awkward to watch with my dad. it was a good movie though, i think because it was an interesting story set inside of ww2 instead of just another "nazis=bad, go america" ww2 movie
