What made the Star Wars prequels so bad? This is from someone who never watched a star wars movie. Im thinking of starting from the prequels.
>>62893034
Half-assed callbacks to the OT, flat line delivery, too many lightsabers, uneven tone, and poor dialogue.
I always felt like the first two prequels played more like a weird assemblage of George Lucas' ideas that were only half-baked and yet pushed through anyway. The characters and relationships aren't really empathetic and the plot is near incomprehensible at times. For my money, the third one feels more like actual fleshed-out storytelling, with humor and pathos and likable characters in situations that we care about.
Well I am not old timey 40 years old faggot who loves the first 3 movies, they are shit that always made me fall asleep and C3PO is IMO same thing as jar jar faggot
But I was actually kid watching in cinema the phantom menace and the entrance of Darth Maul is the greatest thing in cinema
Anyway, watching in now when older, the dialogs were written by retards. Otherwise its fine movies, nothing IMO to break records they are breaking, but whatever...
The prequels are more complex than the OT, but this is a double-edged sword as they forget to finish their thoughts, and fail to create believable arcs.
Characters are largely interchangeable. They receive the destiny which fate has allotted to them, and not one that arises from their personality. It's matter-of-fact, purely causal, very Classical... Predating the style of Western Drama.
And many characters are also introduced without much introduction, and disappear without doing anything memorable, like Dooku in Episode II. Who nevertheless, is one of the best characters in the Star Wars prequels, from an archetypical perspecfive.
I'm only here for hershlag pics
If I wanted to watch an animated movie I would watch actual animation. Not a few fuckwads dicking around in front of a green screen with dozens of effects going on.
You guys know that the new movie will be gutted as meh in 6 months?
>>62893270
It isn't already?
You really have to know going into the prequels
>Qui-Gon stands for emotion over rationalistic thought, and he may have romanced Shmi and wiped her memory.
>Obi-Wan is all about rationalistic thought, he's an old soul; dependable, considerate and uncreative. He's a portrait of a pastoral, democratic dullard.
>Anakin is all about action, and avoiding serious thought or emotion.
>Count Dooku represents the Fronde in a way, he's a Classical Greek tyrant lording himself over these barbaric creatures. He represents every form of opposition to democracy, and should have been a great match for Obi-Wan, yet he barely managed to squeeze a monologue in.
I don't think they are the worst things ever but there are some huge issues.
The biggest issues revolve around the characters and the dialogue. It's not like the original trilogy is some work of Shakespeare, but the prequels are significantly worse in this respect. The characters are completely lifeless, and deliver the dialogue in monotone. There's no passion or intensity or humor from any of the lead roles.
The second problem I have deals with the special effects/CGI. George Lucas went all-in on this technology that looks shitty 10 years later. The environments of these movies were heavily computer generated, and they just don't hold up that well, which is a real shame considering how expensive they were. In particular, take a look at the lava in the big showdown between Anakin and Obi Wan in episode 3, it looks like a Windows desktop screensaver.
So that's what irks me the most, boring characters and dialogue, and heavy visual effects that don't hold up.
>>62893187
>The prequels are more complex than the OT, but this is a double-edged sword as they forget to finish their thoughts, and fail to create believable arcs.
This is really the most concise explanation of what separates the two. The original trilogy, and A New Hope in particular, is almost elegant in its storytelling simplicity and archetypal characters. It was meant as an homage to classic Hollywood action epics, just IN SPACE and with cool special effects to punch it up a bit. The prequels lost sight of that somewhere and just jumped and zigzagged all over the place.
>>62893188
imgur.com/a/72v1x
>>62893034
They turned Sheev from a powerful, mysterious and creepy old man into an autistic sperglord.
>>62893375
Qui-Gon is a date rapist?
>>62893579
No, that's just how Jedi get rid of a trifling witch who won't stop calling or hanging around your spaceport.
>>62893165
>I am not old timey 40 years old faggot
You tastes in Canadian porn say otherwise.
>>62893034
Can somebody make her butt bigger?
>>62893673
Bump for this.
>>62893034
The proper order is IV V I II III VI
>>62893485
In particular, you never see Obi-Wan developed as a character in the first movie. He's just the new kid on the block and totally unproven until he goes up against Maul.
>>62894560
The proper order is the order they were released in theaters. End of discussion.
>>62893034
I'm sure someone will be triggered, but the plinkett reviews do a pretty good job of deconstructing the prequels, and why they didn't work.
I'd recommend watching the series in release order. The OT, and then the prequels. If you can get the specialized edition, I would recommend starting there. Then watch the special editions, then watch the prequels, then find some good fanedits of the prequels.
>Star Wars didn't ruin my childhood.
>Fucking POLIO did
She looked so good in clones
It's been revealed in a new interview with George. He's buttmad about the new trilogy because: "Nobody realizes Star Wars is a soap opera."
that's a nice ass
>>62893034
They weren't actually that bad. What people have to realize is that Star Wars is a soap opera, not a space opera. It's about family, not spaceships.
>>62894724
Found George
>>62893034
nothing, they are all great movies.
Also, Natalie Portman and Hayden Christianson were great in this movie.
>>62894594
Shit
>NAFTA, not NATO
>>62894743
Yup that's what he said. And if you look at them like that (they way they were intended) they get much better.
>>62894711
george should leak the movie
>>62894724
>What people have to realize is that Star Wars is a soap opera, not a space opera. It's about family, not spaceships.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_YozYt8l-g
>>62893052
Writing, Cinematography, terrible use of CGI, complete switch of tone from the original trilogy
>prequel apologists
Awful
>>62894865
this guy gets it
>>62894594
Episode II
>>62894984
It's hip to defend the prequels now.
They are OK.
The thing is it has become hip to hate them for some reason. I don't get it.
>>62894594
>>62895061
What is this autism?
>>62895109
They're only okay by the lowest of standards.
>>62895149
I couldn't figure out what these movies were even about, so I tried to apply the Roman 5-Act method to them.
>>62894893
>>62893034
well-known actors?
>Samuel L Jackson
literally everything
G-d, Hershlag is so delicious
I bet her bunghole tastes like vanilla
>>62895189
Shenanigans! Alec Guiness was an established and well respected actor. Star wars was at the end of his career.
>>62895179
You sound like you have a severe case of Asperger's.
>>62893673
>>62895250
I don't watch the movies, or own them. I just like to take it apart and reassemble them.
Definitely DON'T start from the prequels.
There's a 100 reasons I noticed when my friend (never saw star wars before) decided to start there.
Reasons include:
>see how characters SHOULD be (intimidating Darth Vader, wise yoda, cool Boba fett, etc)
>no boring crap to annoy you
>you wont suffer a step down in action
etc
>>62895326
>we ricci now
>>62895380
>I don't watch the movies
Then how did you analyze their structure?
>>62895179
Had the same problem when I watched the first (didn't care to see the rest after that). Nothing made sense and you didnät know who was the bad guys and what they wanted.
Other than that everything else was bad too. Especially the dialog between boring soulless characters and the pointless boring fights.
It was interesting that the film wasn't really hated in the beginning. People was just confused and blamed all on Jar Jar or the scientific explanation of the force. It took a while before people could admit how really bad the movie were.
>>62893165
god i wish she didn't stop doing porn
>>62895410
I did a Google search for the chapter titles online
>>62895464
That doesn't make sense, your bad spelling ridden analyses have more details than can be gleaned from the chapter titles. So the real question is, why did you stop taking your medication?
>>62895398
jej
The writing, acting, and effects are all terrible, and they fuck with the lore.
I'll put it to you this way.
George Lucas killed off Liam Neeson in the very first movie. Fuck Lucas.
>>62894865
Yeah, after the superhero fight that was a pretty good scene.
>>62895618
Like most people, I've seen them once and tried to articulate those impressions.
They're not awful as kids flicks, I might rewatch them when my nephew's old enough.
>>62893673
>>62894150
meh
could be worse, I guess
>>62896012
GODSPEED, KIND ANON
>>62893165
who dat
>>62894824
A-are her nipples poking out?
>>62896134
Her nipples are always poking out
>>62893034
Nothing really. They are decent movies. Jar Jar is over the top and kind of useless, but so is C3-PO. R2-D2 carried him throughout the OT and PT. People also can't get over that big dark Vader was at one point a bratty ignorant kid.
Don't even bother with the prequels seriously.
They are just . . . bland. I don't hate them, I don't like them, I'm just apathetic towards them.
>>62893034
WATCH IT IN THIS ORDER:
4 5 1 2 3 6
>>62895179
Same. Who's good, who's bad? Why are they doing these things? Why don't I even care?
>>62893052
>natalie portman will never seduce 12 year old you and teach you to please her
;_;
>>62896655
stop with this shit meme
>>62894711
When the prequels were coming out, he was mad that people didn't realize "Star Wars is for kids."
He'll say anything to make himself look like less of a hack.
>>62898144
He's not incorrect, though. Star Wars IS for kids.
But even most kids should be insulted by what Lucas shat on their plates. I watched Star Wars Episode IV as an 8-year old and hated it.
