>Like some critics and viewers, former 007 Pierce Brosnan was disappointed with “Spectre.”
>“I was looking forward to it enormously,” said Brosnan. “I thought it was too long. The story was kind of weak — it could have been condensed. It kind of went on too long. It really did.”
>https://variety.com/2015/tv/news/pierce-brosnan-spectre-james-bond-1201642753/
He's right even if 2 of his Bond movies were unwatchable garbage.
I'd have rather Brosnan had kept going a la Moore desu.
>>62811710
Only Die another Day was bad.
Don't go talking shit about Tomorrow Never Dies.
>>62811710
>implying
Besides all of Craig's movies are unwatchable because as soon as I see his badger-like potmarked face I start throwing up and going into convulsions. Worst Bond Ever
>>62811712
He starred in the worst Bond film ever. Die Another Die
OK, that's not his fault, but i was glad when they just went whole reboot. It's really fucking hard to come back from something that cancerous.
>>62811710
>2 of his Bond movies were unwatchable garbage.
best be talking about tomorrow never dies and die another day motherfucker
>>62811754
Oh fuck off, you Moore loving cunt.
>>62811767
>Die Another Die
I don't know about that. But Die Another Day was fine, you just don't like fun, we get it.
>>62811754
Craig is the best bond yet dumbfuck. Casino royale was easily the best in the series
>>62811818
Die Another Day was not fucking "fine" by any stretch of the imagination, that shit was pretty much self parody. Out and out awful. Fucking sky lasers and surfing and Madonna and invisible cars? Get the actual fuck out if that's what you want from Bond.
>>62811817
>Moore isn't his favorite Bond
Well we certainly wouldn't get along
>>62811818
>Die Another Day was fine
No, no, no, no, no.
Just no.
>>62811712
>Brosnan
>Good bond
no. He's the worst bond, and it's funny that he criticizes the story of Spectre when all of his movies, ranging from mediocre to Die Another Day, with Goldeneye being the only exception. Even then Goldeneye itself is very overrated, and Sean Bean's performance pretty much carried the entire film.
>tfw no Goldeneye with Dalton
>tfw no cameos of the older Bonds in any of their non respective films
>>62811818
>Die Another Day was fine
No it's not, it's an abortion. Moon raker was fun, DAD was awful.
>Reminder someone legitimately thought Madonna could perform a good Bond theme
>It turned out to be the worst of the entire series, no contest
>>62811754
Craig has always looked quintessentially slavic too me, I can just imagine him raping German women on the eastern front.
>ITT people who don't understand post-irony Bond
DAD was not only "fine" it was the greatest Bond movie ever made because it was intentionally a middle finger to all the Bond "fans" that take the series too seriously.
>>62811903
>Moon raker was fun
Roger Moore pls go
>>62811945
epic ruse.
You sure fooled me.
>>62811819
>craig
>bond
>>62811880
We certainly wouldn't. You're a disgrace mate. A disgrace.
>>62811967
I wish I was the creator of that masterpiece. The first scene where Bond infiltrates via surfring. I heard the laborous breathing of some fat neckbeard behind me in a goldfinger shirt. It became apparent after the movie was finished that scene gave him a stroke and that he had died, of course nobody knew it at the time since,predictably, he came to the theatre alone.
>>62811903
>He's the worst bond
>Pierce Brosnan
I don't know how anybody can say that fucking seriously when that plank of wood that starred in OHMSS exists and Moore shat all over the franchise for like eight movies straight with his smarm and elderliness.
>>62811945
This is pants on fucking head retarded.
>>62811903
>Dalton
oh the single Dalton simpleton is back. He trawls the board every day for hours at a time waiting for the slightest whiff of a Bond thread so that he can shit it up by declaring his manlove for Timothy Dalton and his bland Bond flicks. Get over it mate, nobody actually likes Dalton.
So, who was the best Bond?
>>62812118
Connery > Craig > Brosnan > Dalton > Lazenby > Moore
>>62811710
Brosnan admits DAD was shit.
>>62812118
Connery>Dalton=Brosnan>Moore>Craig=Lazenby
>>62812118
Objectively Sean Connery.
>>62812150
fuck off
>>62811656
>>62812177
The funny thing is, Spectre reminded me of the non-DAD Brosnan Bonds. A lot.
>>62812201
how the fuck is Skyfall high tier?
>>62812201
>skyfall anything higher than mid
stopped reading
>>62812200
Moore loving cunt detected.
>>62812201
>Die Another Day above Quantum of Solace
Literally Reddit
>>62812248
Fuck off Craig, your Bond will forever be remembered as Jason Bourne lite
>>62812201
>Die Another Day not in worst tier
Switch that and Quantum. I mean Quantums worst crime is that it's plain boring. DAD causes physical pain
>>62812201
The only bonds i never want to watch again are Die another day , the world is not enougth and dimonds are forever
>>62812201
Was man with the golden gun really that bad? Even with based Christopher Lee?
>>62812201
The fuck's bad about View To A Kill? It's Moore's second best at least. Walken was one of the best villains in the series.
>>62812298
Its one of the most fun bonds
its like people hate fun on here
>>62811754
The only Craig Bond I saw was Casino Royale, and actually, he's the closest to Flemming's Bond to me, or at least how I imagined it.
>Methodical with almost 0 real emotion
>Only seduces and fucks women when it serves a purpose
>Basically a wild animal with a collar who is only let off his leash to utterly wreck Britain's enemies
>Physically less like a model and more like a guy who'd kick your teeth in
>Not necessarily attractive in a traditional sense, but knows how to get what he wants
I personally loved his Bond, though my favorite isTimothy Dalton.
>>62812282
>my Bond wears a toupee
>>62812296
The World Is Not Enough is almost GOAT. Brosnan's best. better than ever Moore movie. Almost on a level with Connery's first five.
>>62812201
>TMWTGG and View To A Kill as bad as Quantum of Solace
pls
>>62812323
Are you shitting me? Why the hell would you want to see an almost 60 year old James Bond? With a wig and liver spots and a paunch and wrinkled to fucking hell and back? What was that shit with the butterfly?
>>62812326
>its like people hate fun on here
Or your idea of fun is awful. I like Adam West Batman ffs, I'm down with fun.
>>62812098
There's various people that like Dalton.
>simpleton
Go back to Reddit and circlejerk all over Brosnan. Dalton and Connery are the most accurate portrayals of Ian Fleming's Bond.
>>62812201
>View to Kill that low
>Skyfall that high
>Brosnan films that high (DAD not in its own tier below everyone else)
Also, Goldeneye is the most overrated Bond film.
>>62812323
all moore bonds are shit and meme tier
>They wasted Christoph Waltz.
Goddamnit. That was the only reason I even went to see Spectre.
>>62812455
Who cares if he's old? It was fun and memorable, unlike every Craig film after the Campbell directed one.
>>62812541
>There's various people that like Dalton
no there's not. There's literally only one and it's you samefagging every time.
>>62812478
>I like Adam West's Batman
>I don't like MWGG
Fuck off. You probably haven't seen either
>>62812601
see >>62812332
>Says the /v/edditor who legitimately likes Brosnan as Bond
>>62812627
>see my other samefag post
thanks for proving my point?
>>62812190
This is the pretty much the correct answer, but I'd also put David Niven and Peter Sellers above Craig and Lazenby. Arguably above Moore as well.
>>62812478
>likes fun
>dosent like TMWTGG
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSbj2Mx2By8
>>62812554
Hollywood has a huge issue with making villains memorable nowadays. They are so busy with plot twists and retreading villains who are already iconic that they can't just make a villain entertaining anymore. There is no point in making GOAT actor Waltz retread fucking Blofeld, an iconic as fuck villain who has already proven that Pleasance was the one true Blofeld.
>>62812653
Just go back to circlejerking about Brosnan on /v/eddit because Goldeneye was the first Bond film you ever saw.
>>62812541
Dalton and Connery are nowhere near the same performance wise. What are you talking about?
>>62812653
Actually, I only posted >>62812332
Also yes, Dalton is based.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUOimokeY7s
>>62812704
>>62812711
You should probably stop now, this is really embarrassing for you
>>62812708
Dalton's performance is the closest to Ian Fleming's Bond (in regards to the books).
>>62812748
>>62812751
Connery played him completely differently than Dalton
>>62812704
>>62812711
Dalton fans confirmed autistic
>>62811754
This. Terrible choice for bond.
>>62812768
>taking the time to photoshop
>not even doing a good job of it
jesus christ man
>>62812799
>It's autistic to show that the arguer is full of shit
>>62812748
>Still butthurt even though the post times of >>62812704
>>62812711
are 19 seconds apart
>>62812792
I guess I wasn't being clear; Connery's performances are probably the most memorable but Dalton's were the closest to Ian's books.
>>62812768
Keep churning them out. Maybe Dalton will reward you with a line reading from the Living Daylights on your birthday.
>>62812827
>Photoshop that fucking fast
Holy fuck man, just admit you're wrong.
>>62812858
No m8, it's autistic to go to these lengths to show that you're not samefagging when it's blatantly obvious that you are
>>62812670
This is another thing, why are Bond themes so shit with Craig? Skyfall got a load of plaudits because a fat cow sung it but it's just dreary, and Spectre's is a fucking joke.
>here's a better Bond theme that isn't even a Bond theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ezYDGeuQE
>>62812888
Just admit that there's only one Dalton fan ITT and in the entire world (and that it's you)
Am I the only one who actually enjoyed Lazenby as Bond? It goes without saying as well that OHMSS is objectively the best Bond film ever made.
>>62812925
Ignore him family, just your typical Brosnan /v/edditor who gets butthurt whenever someone attacks his idol (and his wooden acting).
>>62812911
This is now a thread about songs that are better Bond themes than the new Bond themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7gutsi1uT4
>>62812974
I like Brosnan, but I preferred Dalton's more vicious approach to Bond. Like a lion pretending he's a person.
>>62812978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4
>007: Snake Eater
HNNNNNNNNG
>>62812953
Not the best Bond, but OHMSS was good.
>>62813004
>Dalton's more vicious approach to Bond.
Bond was never supposed to be gentle though.
>>62812974
>>62813004
>>62813052
Samefagging
>>62812953
He was a little bit woden at times but he hads massive potential in the role
its a shame he did LSD and quit bond
Also OHMSS is at least top 5
>tfw Craig issecondbest Bond
F-fuck you too, guys...
>>62813052
Brosnan wasn't gentle, just more chill.
>>62813040
This is legitimately better than every Bond theme since Chris Cornell's, easily, how can they fuck it up so bad?
>that one psychotic Dalton fan that always shits up the thread
>>62813077
>>62813117
>>62813077
samefag
If you dont think this was best Bond song i will fucking fight you
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs8uYxTJ530
>>62813088
Daniel Craig is still my favourite Bond even after Spectre. Mainly because Casino Royale. Connery is a very close second for me though.
>>62813142
>Not Thunderball
Fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT0x7QiJI1g
>>62813142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNA7DcVppEs
>>62813142
FIGHT ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnzgdBAKyJo
>>62813142
best step up so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0uP25yxl8
>There are people ITT RIGHT NOW that don't like George Lazenby
He doesn't get a fair shake imho
>>62813188
mah nigguh!
>>62813166
>meme song
>>62813183
>woman detected
>>62813188
>>62813207
>underage detected
>>62813249
>damage control detected
>>62813276
FIGHT ME
>>62813249
>Calling Tom Jones a meme
Come say that to my face in real life and we'll see what happens
>>62813249
>implying women would like Bond films
>Calling Thunderball or Tom Jones a meme songI agree with you on Chris Cornell though. It's good but vastly overrated. It's standard whiny rock from early to mid 2000s.
>>62812231
You're right, it should be god tier.
>>62813293
Get good taste, maybe then I'll let you be in the same room as me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmMIgIygzdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efXbcfxiDnM
license to kill is the best bond movie you plebs
>>62813119
>>62813136
Samefagging
>>62813347
I dont think you know the diffence between good music and a good song
>>62813369
Living Daylights*
>>62813369
>>62813398
Samefig pls
I think we can all agree this is the best "theme"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8XNBpIkQpU
>>62813417
>>62813372
>>62813382
You only need one song to open a movie, dude.
>>62811818
It had a fun sword fight.
That's about it. I mean jesus christ they didn't even use the full name Strawberry Fields once. What kind of Bond movie doesn't use the Bond girl's ridiculous name when it's as good as that?
>>62813437
>he's still at it
>>62813462 ok DUDE
BOND MOVIE OPENING CREDITS THEME SONG RANKINGS
>high tier
goldfinger
you only live twice
live and let die
the spy who loved me
tomorrow never dies
casino royale
skyfall
>mid tier
dr. no
thunderball
diamonds are forever
for your eyes only
a view to a kill
the living daylights
goldenye
the world is not enough
>low tier
the man with the golden gun
licence to kill
spectre
>get the fuck out of here tier
die another day
quantum of solace
>I can't even remember it, maybe it's good, maybe it's not tier
from russia with love
OHMSS
moonraker
octopussy
>>62813479
That was Quantum of Solace.
>>62813556
Glad we got that sorted out, bro.
>>62813142
>not based Tina Turner channelling the days of Bassey
Forreal though You Only Live Twice is an amazing fucking song and is way close to the top of my list. I just really love Tina Turner and she fucking killed it with Goldeneye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGPBFvDz_HM
I mean come on senpai.
>>62813573
This is all kinds of fucked up, it's even worse than that shitty chart you made for the films.
>>62812201
>Skyfall as good as From Russia With Love
>Skyfall better than You Only Live Twice
>Skyfall better than ThunderballI actually liked Skyfall but you're still retarded
>>62813573
>thunderball
>mid tier
>Not GOAT tier
That's wrong.
>FRWL at literally what tier
Man, as if your rankings weren't suspect enough.Actually, I mostly agree outside of those two
>>62813573
Put OHMSS high and the other two mid
Am I the only one that hates how made Craig's Bond use the PPK exclusively after CR?
Especially since it's a modern interpretation, it would make sense to have the P99 on call for more open use or carry in hostile environments, while the PPK is kept around for carrying in a non-permissive environment (such as at a party or hotel).
Craig's films don't want to be Bond movies, they're kind of embarrassed about it, this is why all the themes sound nothing like a Bond theme always has.
>>62813621
Shit senpai, you're right. They're my least favourite Bond movies so eh. Jesus christ looking at Die Another Day they didn't even bother with fun names.
Only mildly related but who else thought Samantha Bond was a qt Moneypenny?
>>62813372
Why are you so dumb?
My first post was saying Craig was the closest to Flemming's Bond, and that my personal Bondfu is Dalton.
>>62813661
that was my first post in the thread
>>62813729
>outside of quantum, all of the openings have been done by singer/songwriters that like and try to sound like the singers of the past
>with the most recent too being outright copies of that style
You're half right, at best.
The World is Not Enough was a great theme.
Based Garbage.
>>62812978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUyB_o918Y
>>62812332
That's because Casino sticks incredibly closely to the book unlike the rest of the films which began to differ radically from the books starting from You Only Live Twice.
I really wish they'd stuck with this approach since Casino was brilliant and the writers actually did a good job of updating to the modern era.Fuck did we ever get robbed with the rest of the Craig films
>>62813842
Holy shit
right in the nostalgia
>>62813794
There's a distinct feel to a Bond theme, and Craig's don't sound remotely like it, Piefall had hints of it, but not really, it was far too slow and dead, the last one was some emasculated X Factor tier shit and the first two were generic pop.
why does the entire craig series have like 5 different endings? fuckign annoyig as shit
senpai I have to admit I really liked Another Way to Die as a theme. Throwing Jack Black and Alicia Keys together was weird and I liked the song itself, though it would have been better to just take Keys and have her belt something out.
Too bad Quantum of Solace blew.
>>62814010
Holy fuck I meant Jack White baka desu
>>62813842
I probably played this game on PC for 500 hours.
I remember getting all autistic about my clan's server.
>>62813249
>Tom jones an old school womanizer just like bond reduced to meme song
bad opinion
>>62813160
Casino Royale's premise was just perfect for a Bond movie. Playing poker in some fancy hotel over hundreds of millions of dollars that would be used to finance terrorism? That's a bond movie plot I can get behind.
>>62813711
I like the P99 and I'm disappointed it didn't get any use after Casino Royale, but I feel it's justified.
Craig's Bond may be the one that bruises the most but he's not a '90s hero like Brosnan who was basically a well-dressed and refined one man army at times, relying on automatic weapons and blowing shit the fuck up when things got dicey(and who canonically has the highest bodycounts of any Bond). He was the guy who MI6 sent in to fuck up a Soviet base, investigate some arms dealing on the Russian border, and infiltrating North Korea single-handedly.
The PPK is smaller and has a more subdued presence so it makes sense for Craig!Bond's main weapon, since he spends most of his time in civilized environments. He's more of a detective/assassin character, stalking people in urban environments.
>>62814010
AW2D was really good, the titles were really cozy too. Not as good as You Know My Name, but still bretty good.
Did Bond retire/quit at the end(again) or was he just going on a short vacation with Madeleine?
I mean, it's not like Spectre's finished just because Blofeld's arrested.
>>62813160
Craig's sense of style and gravitas are perfect for Bond.
It's sad because he was the only one who seemed like they were trying the whole movie.
Even Ralph felt like he was phoning it in.
What the fuck happened behind the camera that made the director cock it up so hard. I know the leaks happened, but God damn, the movie just had the most abysmal drop in editing quality from Skyfall.
>>62814559
Since this is a reboot, maybe this is the source of Bond's dead wife.
>>62811656
Even if Pierce is my favorite bond, Casino Royal is my favorite movie.
We can say what we want about Craig and Pierce but in the end, Pierce had more charm but is movies where more ''funny'', while Craig is less likable but the writers are better so overall, it's a better quality of bond movies.
>>62814559
>>62814679
It's too bad Craig said he's more or less done, despite having an allowance for a 5th movie in his contract.
>this shitty french slut replacing muh Contessa
I mean why didn't they get even get the qt frenchfu
>>62814679
Yeah, in a sense Madeleine is basically the Craig universe version of Tracy di Vicenzo, being the daughter of a crime lord and becomes Bond's charge at the request of her father.
I wonder if they'll go as far as to have them get married.Imagine if one film ends with Bond unknowingly getting a Bond girl pregnant like YOLT.
Which film had the best opening credits and why is it The World is Not Enough
>>62812267
>>62812291
These anons have the right idea
>>62812118
Connery >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brosnan = Craig > Moore = Dalton > Lazenby
Connery IS James Bond.
Pierce was such a great Bond. Craig just doesn't have look, even if Casino Royale was good. Goldeneye was fucking incredible.
>>62815138
>lazenby at the bottom
>>62812118
Connery>>>>>Brosnan>Moore>Lazenby>Craig>Dalton
>>62815138
>>62815305
>Dalton that low
>>62811743
A classic
Best villain
>>62815331
Tim wasn't that great of a Bond
>>62812558
>memorable
All I remember was the car breaking in half and him still driving it, and the hamfisted "what a view...to a kill" and I watched it like 5 months ago
>>62811743
Tomorrow Never Dies was fucking incredible.
I had the VHS and I watched it every weekend. I even liked the PSX game.
>>62811818
someone link the cgi windsurfing scene
>>62813842
>TFW SHUTTLE CHAMBER
This game was just pure 007 flair. So fucking cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEXKzDc0J-g
>>62815607
It really felt like a Bond movie. Dat theme.
>>62812860
Dalton felt closer to what Ian Flemming was after. Craig is too but Dalton's pretty suave when he needs to be. Whereas Craig's all pitbull.
What's the best bond theme, /tv/?
For Your Eyes Only is pretty fucking rad in my opinion.
>>62812201
All the Bonds essentially the same characteristics. To argue which is the best Bond is almost moot. What matters most is the Villain, the diabolical plot, the action and the women.
Skyfall was long and had an idiotic villain. We really dont need villains who capture Bond only to play a game of duel and ask him to join him. We need charismatic, intelligent villains back. Villains that say shit like "No Mr Bond, I expect you to die".
>>62815665
THUNDERBALL
Honorable mentions to Goldfinger FRWL and YKMN
>>62815707
>Bond is almost moot
Who the fuck is moot?
>>62815645
It was incredible. People talk about "cinematic games", and this game did everything games like Uncharted ended up taking the credit for later on.
It was a gigantic step forward as far as connecting cinema and games. The cold open the first time you put in the game, thrusting you straight into gameplay, before cutting to the opening like a bond movie, a bunch of insane setpieces, like rappeling down a falling building, or jumping from a blowing mountain, (mostly) incredible driving sections with bond moments that rewarded good gameplay with movie-like bond awesomeness, and even the melee system which was stolen by Uncharted almos beat by beat.
That's not to talk about the story which was all Bond, with an incredible cast, two bond girls, Jaws, and fucking William Dafoe as the villain.
You now remember From russia with love (the video game)
last james bond game i played actually
any of the newer games any good?
>>62815752
Bond seems to have really great licensed games, even the Craig ones are pretty good.
>>62815707
Best Bond game coming through
>>62812978
Mah nigga. This too. Beth really should get a crack at a theme.
https://youtu.be/wtl2CbgWWJI
>>62815850
Goldeneye f a m
>>62815850
Everything or Nothing and Goldeneye were better. Nightfire is still great though.
>For Your Eyes Only
>>62812201
Here's another (You), but:
>FRWL to God
>YOLT to High
>Moonraker to Garbage
>The Living Daylights to Okay
>Diamonds Are Forever to Garbage
>For Your Eyes Only to Watchable/Okay
>Octopussy to Watchable
>A View To A Kill to Awful/Watchable
Those are the only ones I care about.
This is pretty shit in general, though. I'm glad Diamonds Are Forever is so low but the fact Moonraker is two tiers above pretty much invalidates the opinion of whoever made it.
>>62812201
>>62816172
Also, Spy Who Loved me down to High or even Okay, and possibly Goldfinger down to High.
Goldfinger would be somewhere between High and God in reality, people often overlook its flaws because it's so immensely popular.
>>62813842
nightfire birthday party splitscreen best day of my life
>>62813573
I will never understand why so many people rate Live and Let Die so high. Even if it's truly deserving of being top tier, how the fuck can you justify that funk breakdown and silly part of the song?
I can kind of understand and even look past the fact it's not really conventional and doesn't really fit the trend of all the others themes and it's part of the energy of the new Moore films, but that fucking funk bit gets me every time.
Paul McCartney solo/Wings are really overrated in general in my humble opinion family.
I think the ones that go a bit more contemporary like Living Daylights and OHMSS and even TMWTGG to some extent don't age well, and great themes really need a lot of the classic and timeless elements to be considered great even over time.
>>62815752
remember when everyone said it was the worst bond game because it wasnt an FPS and had the worst gameplay? and now games like that are considered 10/10
>>62816172
>>YOLT to High
dat shit taste
>>62816383
It was incredibly ahead of it's time. It even did the whole "emerging gameplay" thing by letting you either go guns blazing or stealth your way through some of the levels.
>>62816383
Protip: "professional" "videogame" "reviewers" actually have no idea what they're doing or how to analytically review a videogame, they just rate it based on how much people will enjoy it instead of its quality.
>>62816392
I've thought about it a bit more, and I'm willing to accept it in Okay. I just remembered:
>the set and props
>the large-scale action sequences (these make any Bond film suffer)
>Connery in "Japanese" "disguise"
It's a nice film but it doesn't stand out as much as FRWL or others.
>>62811743
What if Wei Ling had married Carver and then killed him?
Then the Chinese would be able to direct right-wing propaganda throughout the West, and Bond would have to go up against her in the next movie.
>>62811656
BRING BACK BROSNAN FOR ONE MORE BOND
>>62815486
Sorry I'm late
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6w6FV8P7HXg
Goldeneye and Tnd Were fine, the rest of his are shit
>>62816689
>GLOBAL WARMING........ IS A TERRIBLE THING
Every single time. This movie was an incredible parody of Bond movies
>>62811743
No kidding. I kept hearing shit about TND and haven't seen it in ages so I went back and watched. Holy shit does it hold up well.
Sure it lacks the gritty intensity and great atmosphere of Brosnan's best Bond film Goldeneye. But it makes up for it with his most exciting and action packed film. Also David Arnold delivered a great John Barry-esque score and Carver is a top tier villain.
The only real downside is the main Bond girl, kinda dull and some mediocre dialogue. But it's just so damn well paced and exciting. There's so much action and it never gets dull IMO.
>>62811754
>Craig's movies are unwatchable because as soon as I see his badger-like potmarked face I start throwing up and going into convulsions.
I realized recently that the only people I ever hear complain about Craig's looks are men. I've yet to hear a girl call Craig ugly. Granted I don't go around asking them, but I know several who think he's fucking sexy.
>>62811945
>it was intentionally a middle finger to all the Bond "fans" that take the series too seriously.
Except it wasn't. That's just a shitty excuse you made up in your head for why it's a good movie.
If EON were really trying to give a "fuck you" to people who take Bond seriously then why the fuck did they follow it up with the most serious Bond film in years? Perhaps ever.
>>62812201
>roger moore in god tier
fuck off you have no clue about the bond character
>>62815850
better multiplayer than goldeneye.
mostly due to technical stuff and ps2 being more friendly for 4people deathmatches
>>62811656
Bond movies need sexy guy, femme fatale, and insanely over the top or just WEIRD spy tech.
TWINE is Wasted Potential: The Movie.
Fantastic premise, shoddy acting and cinematography.
Brosnan is my favorite Bond
eat me
>>62817040
>2015
>people can freely download and watch the Connery and Moore Bond films after just a few keystrokes and clicks
>despite this, people seriously and unironically hold that Connery and Moore were noticeably different
>people still shit on Moore for things that Connery had been getting away with for years
>people are perfectly willing to accept and endlessly repeat that Connery was the best
Watch the films again please. Connery is hilariously overrated and Moore is criminally underrated purely because there's so little fucking difference between them.
>>62811743
Just watching this tonight. The banter is glorious. They can barely go two lines without double entendre, sexual innuendo, etc.
>>62817311
Tomorrow Never Dies was genuinely great
Yeah it's cheesy and silly sometimes but it's still a great Bond
>>62817242
Having just watched through a majority of the Connery and Moore films again I would like you to elaborate on your point. Particularly
>>people still shit on Moore for things that Connery had been getting away with for years
Like what exactly? Corny one liners? Gadgets? Over the top plots? It's all stuff Bond is known for throughout the series. The difference is that the first few Connery films are FAR more believable and serious in tone whereas the Moore films were overall much for comical and ridiculous. Also Moore admittedly played a much sillier Bond and went for laughs.
If you seriously think Connery and Moore played the character more or less the same then I suggest watching the movies again and paying attention.
>>62817331
Agreed. I love that with the Bond series there is so much to choose from and that literally EVERYONE, no matter how similar their tastes, will have different rankings and overall ideas about what makes for a good Bond film.
IMO that one calls back to the cornier Moore movies but with much better action and a more interesting villain.
Last night I Bond Burgered your sister
>>62817350
The one-liners, the facial expressions and glances, the dry deliveries and humour - generally, in the way they both behaved with the humour aspect of the writing they were pretty much identical. Obvioisly this is only with the humour, but it's where most of Moore's criticisms are aimed at.
I'm mostly ignoring the actual jokes and gadgets and cheese because they're somewhat consistent throughout, but the biggest difference is the tone (writing) of the films, because by and large since Goldfinger (Thunderball being a fair bit of an exception), the films had started trying to appeal to be towards family audiences and have more light-hearted aspects to the stories, especially with things like henchmen.
Connery's early ones were fucking fantastic - don't get me wrong - but he and the films overall aren't consistent, and his last few are all over the place and considerably different and more identifiable with Moore's.
Moore's had shoddy and cheap writing and tone, but some are still solid and in some where you get to see Moore's Bond in a decent film or at least tone (Live and Let Die and to some extent The Spy Who Loved Me) he really doesn't stand out as bad.
The problem with Moore is that his films were subject to such a huge change in quality of writing and tone for an attempt at broadening the audience, which started with Connery's, and that he's in films that are decent but really flawed and let down by some aspects (if Octopussy was just set in Germany and not India as well it would be great).
Diamonds Are Forever is also a steaming pile of shit, and Connery's performance in it (as well as most aspects of the film) is just plain bad.
>>62817440
Like this?
>>62817718
Well you're absolutely right that both actors had their share of good and bad films and both had their more serious as well as goofy portrayals of the character.
Overall though I think it's clear that Connery was the more serious actor and gave a better performance.
Admittedly DAF is ridiculous and it's no mystery Connery didn't really put forth much effort. I'd also say that Moore gives pretty solid performances more akin to Connery's portrayal in LALD, TMWTGG and to an extent in FYEO.
But once again, overall Connery played the part with a more serious tone. Sure he did jokes and one liners but he did it in a much dryer way than Moore. I mean come on, did Connery ever raise one eyebrow or hand a tourist a dead fish while driving out of the ocean? It's little things like that that damage Moore's reputation. Or for some people make him so enjoyable.
>>62817350
>>62817718
Sorry for the typos, I'm on my phone, but what I'm getting at is that essentially most (if not all) of Moore's criticisms are related to the humour aspects of the films and his delivery, and he was really indistinguishable from Connery in that respect (ESPECIALLY the Connery of the last few films).
The fact that so many say that Connery is GOAT and Moore is absolute shit in the same breath is just really disingenuous and, to me, suggests they don't truly know or can put into words why they object to Moore's Bond over Connery's - and this really, really irritates me, because it seems like it's just repeated and underanalysed opinions that don't really stand up.
I'm by no means a Moorefag, by the way, I don't really rate a lot of his films or his Bond, but I also don't rate Connery's later films or Bond very highly either.
I know it's sacrelige, but Connery doesn't really do much for me. He doesn't really show any emotion aside from FRWL And YOLT.
At Least Moore got pissed, wanted revenge, and got Sad quite a bit
>>62817864
>did Connery ever raise one eyebrow
Yes, he did often. He also did the dry humour glances that people hate Moore for, he was just very slightly more subtle and (what I think is key), when he made the jokes (which are in both of their films), he did it with a very plain forced accent - whereas Moore's was more tonal, exagerrated and middle-class.
Connery started off with the serious tone, but they descended into the campy cheese Bond films of Moore before even Lazenby took the role.
The writing started deteriorating around Goldfinger, as well. I like tbe film but it's flawed, and Thunderball has pacing issues and an absolutely riduculous intro.
If Oddjob doesn't set alarm bells ringing then that fucking jetpack sequence definitely should.
>>62817882
>essentially most (if not all) of Moore's criticisms are related to the humour aspects of the films and his delivery
Sorry but I can't agree with that. It's usually the biggest criticism but another huge one is Moore's physicality. He essentially aged out of the role by FYEO or Octopussy (I'd argue he was too old looking in Moonraker) and appears more and more ridiculous flirting with women half his age as his films progress.
Connery was three years younger and stopped playing Bond by the early 70s so he didn't really have to deal with this issue and definitely appears as more of a physical threat as well.
Seriously go and compare the fist fights in Connery films to Moore's fights. The fights in TSWLM and MR are truly laughable.
Also I would argue Moore just comes off as far too posh.
>>62817962
>Yes, he did often.
Where eactly? I know he would give surprised facial reactions, but I don't think he did it in the way Moore did it.
And once again, Connery and Moore both did the glances, one liners and whatnot but Moore did it in a far cornier way. Sure that's subjective but you're wondering WHY people tend to complain about Moore doing these things and not Connery and it's because Connery was better at it and not as corny.
>>62812378
The World Is Not Enough has the best Bond girls by far.
>>62818107
>he World Is Not Enough has the best Bond girls by far.
>Christmas Jones
You think this is funny m8?
>liking craig
SPOT THE MILLENNIALS LADIES AND GENTLEMAN
>>62811743
the real steve jobs movie
>>62818139
>liking moore
Spot the people with shit tier taste! Seriously, there's a reason why Bond is taken more seriously today. Sure people liked Moore back in the day, because Bond was pretty much a comedic joke series. Now that there's been some solid movies made again people actually have some expectations aside from an aging gentleman with double-taking pigeons.
>>62818107
>best Bond girls
You know if you just said Bond Girl we would have given you benefit of doubt for Elektra, but you messed up
>>62812118
Connery = Craig > Brosnan > Dalton = Moore >>>> Lazenby > Niven
![MoonRaker1[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/JNf6Jgo.gif "MoonRaker1[1].gif")
>>62818390
>>62812201
>License To Kill and Moonraker
>not garbage
>For Your Eyes Only
>not Okay
Otherwise I do not disagree
>>62811710
TND was a pretty fun film anon, DAD is unwatchable though.
>>62818460
Just think. People worked on that shot. People filmed a pigeon and sat in the editing room working on getting that "just right" for the screen adaptation of Ian Fleming's "Moonraker"
I'm sure he would have been proud.
>>62818139
Millennials are aged 18-35 you dingus
>>62811656
>Pierce Brosnan
The only one, true James bond
>>62818526
Sounds like the type of people who like the Craig films.
>>62818624
It's like he was born for the role isn't it? Like he just naturally gave of the aura of Bond the moment he put on a suit. Even watching interviews with him from the 90s it's like watching James Bond IRL.
Damn shame he didn't get the part sooner. I liked the Dalton films but I think Brosnan could have lasted even longer than Moore had he taken the part in '87.
>hey let's binge watch an entire season of this show on netflix! so fucking awesome.
>omg this movie is too long. how can someone watch something for more than a few hours?
>david arnold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGZCl7trmig
Craig Bond's movies should be called "The Bond Identity".
Yeah, maybe it fits with the books better, but thats not the super suave secret agent archetype everyone knows and loves.
>>62818139
hes a damn great bond, sir now fuck off
>>62818767
>comparing Bond and Bourne
Ugh I still remember first reading these comparisons in 2006 when CR came out. The two are so fucking different it doesn't make sense to compare the two.
Bond is a spy who goes on missions, Bourne is a guy with amnesia who wants to find out who he was. Turns out he was a spy but that's not really his profession anymore.
A third of Casino Royale takes place with Bond dressing in fancy suits in a casino. Ever see shit like that in a Bourne movie?
>>62818701
fucking this for all chicks and normies that cant handle a movie, yet watch the office for fucking 3 hours
>>62818848
The "grittiness" or sense of it being grounded in reality is similar. Also the filming techniques as well. Both are rather drab.
>>62818966
Yeah the Craig films are more intense and gritty, but that doesn't mean they're Bourne tier.
The shaky cam shit is easily the main point of connection between the two. But still there's so many classic Bond tropes that are still maintained in the Craig films that they don't really come near the Bourne series.
>>62818624
Nigga can drift a fucking tank. (at 0:35)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-MKdRwhHs
Truly the GOAT
>>62813842
How were this and Everything or Nothing better Bond stories than two of Brosnan's actual movies?
>>62819162
Goldeneye is peak brosnan hotness.
That is the platonic ideal of Bond, looks wise at least.
>>62812201
To be quite honest family as long as Goldeneye is recognized as god tier this list is halfway decent
>>62819218
They were? Wasn't one of them basically Moonraker and the other was Willem Dafoe and some super silly plot with nano plasma robots or something?
There is a school of thought that says OHMSS is the best Bond film. Thoughts?
>>62819218
>Everything or Nothing
That was a disturbingly good game. Even had a decent theme song and Bond intro.
>>62819360
Not far off. I've seen a lot of people online claim it as one of the best and I agree. Not sure if it's my absolute favorite though.
If Connery had been in it I think it could have been an easy no. 1. But then Connery would have played it a lot different than Lazenby did, who was believable as Bond falling in love and marrying a girl.
>>62819396
I've heard that it's a good entry point for non-Bond fans and desu I'm having trouble seeing what's so great about it.
I want to like it. I want to like Bond...
>>62819360
It does more with the character than any other movie did. Casino Royale came close, though
>Lazenby's agent convinced him to walk on a 3-picture Bond deal because he was sure Bond would be an outmoded joke in the liberated 70s
I hope every so often, George Lazenby visits that guy and punches him in the face.
>>62819438
>I've heard that it's a good entry point for non-Bond fans
What
No. Watch Goldfinger, for God's sake
even though half of that movie has been hilariously mocked by Austin Powers
>>62819438
>I want to like it. I want to like Bond...
So are you saying you watched it and haven't seen any other Bond movies?
>>62811656
Same.
Just went tonight.
Still LOADS better than Skyfall.
Needed:
Less running time.
Having 007 shoot Batista when he was on the hood of his Jeep. To have him come back on the train, was no repercussion on the story except driving the main characters towards sex.
Focus more on how Blofield had all this surveillance, and was always a step ahead.
Focus more on Blofield/Bond's father, have flashbacks, something.
Better pacing. Felt like there was too much suspense and tension and action for some parts of the movie.
Rework the FUCKING ENDING of the climax. Called it a mile away when Bond and Swan separated that Swan would be used as leverage when the eventual "twist" of Blofield still being around to have the movie end on Bond conquering his enemy. Like, totally rework the shitty meetup of M/Q/Moneypenny and Bond and then Bond's arrival at old MI6, to something else with old MI6, like both M and Swan being captive inside, and Blofield makes Bond choose - but instead, M is just as competent (or reveal him being a former 00 for a bit, unless I missed that he was already) and being able to escape on his own.
The cinematography was stellar, loads better than Skyfall and Quantum, but on par with Casino Royale.
Still better than Skyfall, had potential; a simple script tweak, adjustment of pacing, and shortening by 15-25 minutes would have made it a GREAT Bond sendoff movie.
>>62819486
I've seen all the Brosnan ones and they all suck. I've seen Goldfinger and I just can't take it seriously. I liked Casino Royale a tremendous amount. The subsequent Craig movies lost me.
>>62819648
The whole family drama angle kind of sucks
And the Bond Girl wasn't dangerous enough, she was M I L K T O A S T
>>62819706
>doesn't enjoy Goldeneye
>can't take older movies seriously
>only likes CR
Eh, you might just not be cut out for enjoying Bond honestly.
I'd suggest watching From Russia With Love and one of the Dalton films (either The Living Daylights or Licence to Kill) before giving up on it entirely though.
>>62819828
>can't take older movies seriously
Nah, I mean my favorite film is by Clouzot. It's just Goldfinger in particular, because as someone pointed out you sort of can't help but see it through the Austin Powers lens at this point.
Goldeneye is okay but it I don't feel like it really tells me why I should be a serious Bond fan. I think Casino Royale is generally considered one of the best films in the series so I'm not sure why you're being such a dick.
>>62819816
I know. Needed more motivation and incentive for their actions.
Not just MUH FATHER.
Show some real emotions, Waltz, rather than surprise and smugness.
>>62819931
Oh no, I just meant you weren't taking the older BOND films seriously. Since Goldfinger is kind of the essential Connery era Bond film.
But that being said Dr. No, From Russia With Love and to an extend Thunderball are less silly than Goldfinger so perhaps those would be more enjoyable to you.
And Dalton's take on Bond is closer to Craig's, being more dark and gritty. But still, sounds like you'll never get into the series as a whole, I doubt you'd ever enjoy the Moore era movies. Not that they're really all that great anyway.
