Remember that time the Enterprise found an advanced space station the size of a sun? What ever happened to that?
it became the inspiration behind the best main number Final Fantasy
>>62789506
nice try
>>62789409
>the size of a sun?
It was bigger than that. iirc it was the size of a small planetary system.
>>62789409
Didn't they done self destruct it?
>>62789594
Nope, they just left it there.
they gave the federation's greatest engineer the federation's slowest shuttle too
>>62789409
Wait so they ripped off star wars?
>>62790100
star wars never had anything remotely this big
yeah
>>62789409
>2369 Enterprise discovers Dyson sphere
>2370 Starfleet secretly analyses tactical danger
>2371 lack of resources without broad Federation support (given the size and complexity)
>2372 Data turned over to Federation council for long term science mission
>2373 Preparation for the mission
>2374 Construction of mission hardware
>2375 Ship refit with new hardware
>2376 Preliminary survey
>2377 Advanced study of tractor beam situation
>2378 Think tank to study situation
.....
isnt it a dyson sphere?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere
>>62789506
>XIII
>best FF
Yeah, you enjoy your hallway simulator, faggot.
remember that one time star trek went warp 10 and it made them evolve backwards into lizards because warp 10 was too fast
>>62791823
Yeah. It's the remnants of a Type II civilization. I don't think they ever went into what exactly happened to the people who built it though.
>>62791834
And it won an Emmy forweakest premise for a science fiction show.
>>62789409
If the sun is inside, what's illuminating the outside?
>>62791901
>I don't think they ever went into what exactly happened to the people who built it though.
They don't. Star Trek does a great job of talking about lost civilizations but never gives them any meaningful background. They're usually just a plot device.
>>62791825
XII-2 and Lightning's Return were good at least
>>62791825
FFX was a hallway simulator and I enjoyed it. XIII just plain sucked.
>>62792006
eh it more cinnamon raisin sucked
>>62791973
LED's
>>62791973
Light.
>>62792006
XIII only good part was Ch 13, you know after all the story and you're just hunting monsters. rest of the game is ass. And never have I wanted to punch a character so hard, fucking Hope faggot.
>>62789409
Remember that time the Enterprise went outside of outer space? What ever happened to that?
its explored in star trek online not that anyone cares
>Q is obsessed with humans because of their potential to become near-gods like them
>there have been plenty of other civilizations that got way farther technologically than humans and their puny federation
>>62792124
Yes, I remember that. It opens up a bit and then you go back to the hallway. Fuck that game. I couldn't care if any of the characters lived or died. Also the battle system was mostly boring. Square is completely out of touch with their market.
Remember when Barkley became ultra smart and sent them to the planet of super smart beings halfway across the Galaxy? Why didn't they ever use the technology they learned from them?
>>62791984
Now I know you're trolling.
>>62792205
barcley unlearned it when the aliens diconnected him from the computer
>>62792240
>Computer, load Holodeck program Barkley-Enterprise-Brain-Interface 1
>>62792205
That was a really odd way of getting people to come find you.
>>62792148
Magic space dude showed up a few more times and took angsty Wesley back to his four dimensional conversion van of rape.
>>62792182
>plenty of other civilizations that got way farther technologically than humans
Who did it together, besides the first federation?
>>62792231
What? Those were two fine games I don't see how that's trolling
>>62792282
what good would hooking up a normal brain to a computer do?
>>62792182
It had more to do with the human ambition than with how far they had advanced technologically. Q thought humans had the it factor.
>>62791834
Is that the episode where Paris turns into a lizard, and literally fucks Janeway as a lizard?
>>62789409
Remember that time when they show's writers had to bring Q into the Voyager story line to make it worth watching? What ever happened to that?
>>62792345
What good does showing new technology to a scientist do?
>>62792378
>wasitrape.jpg
>>62791834
"Let's invent a new warp drive that can take us home."
>they invent a new warp drive that can take them home
"Oh no, there are some problems with our new warp drive."
>they solve the problems with the new warp drive
"Okay, so now we have a problem-free warp drive that can take us home."
>they forget it ever happened and move on to the next episode
>>62792378
I'm going to have to watch voyager now for reasons
>>62792503
I remember a website from when Voyager was on that calculated all the time traveled and they figured they should have crossed out of the delta quadrant into beta like by season 6 or 7.
>>62792503
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>>62792639
http://www.stdimension.org/int/Cartography/Voyager.htm
>>62792688
i'm on like season 5 of voyager now. this website is impressive
according to one of the novels the dyson sphere was a giant sun teleporter to beam the sun to another system with a dying sun and a civil war was happening, but then q and his gimp friend messed it up and fired muskets and togas at each other
>>62792940
Novels are garbage. Please ignore them.
>>62791640
The curvature of a star system sized sphere shouldn't be at all noticable that close to it.
>>62793107
how do you know how close the enterprise is?
>>62793107
this baka desu senpai
it looks just like a regular planet there
>>62793107
You literally have no idea how close they are to it by just looking at them flying up to it
>>62793132
It...looks quite close. But I also remember that they end up going inside, so they shouldn't be far enough out for it to look that curved. And I just can't figure the positioning of the camera having the Enterprise pass close to it, then going off into the distance, yet having the sphere very curved.
>>62789409
it didnt work and the sun killed everyone inside
>>62792345
It was so Barclay could control the computer quicker. Also he eventually needed the memory space of the Enterprise's computer since his brain was too small to house his growing intellect.
>>62793235
>>62793132
You can still see the curvature when it goes into the door
>>62793107
maybe its an ant planet
>>62793274
Oh, and if the ship's still on a distant approach, it should be pointed almost right at the sphere, not flying to the side of it.
>>62792205
They did three weeks later after visiting with the Cythereans. To get home.
>>62793107
>He doesn't understand the novelty of a dyson sphere
>>62793319
you don't fly directly at any celestial body or you will crash into it. especially something as massive as a dyson sphere. you fly to orbit it.
>>62793604
If you're far enough out that you can see it's curvature, and you're presumably at least aiming near it, you shouldn't be notably to one side - yet.
>>62793388
It would be more novel to see the Enterprise near a vast 'wall' of matter than the usual ball shape of any planet-of-the-week.
>>62791901
the Pak Protectors who built it came back and killed them all.
>>62789409
some asshole contractor realized that he forgot to put it in a slipspace pocket the size of a small house and left it there because he had already gotten paid
>>62789506
It's past your bed time anon.
>>62793107
looks like they are pretty far away to be honest
in OP you can't see the curve
>>62789409
>the Enterprise found an advanced space station the size of a sun? What ever happened to that?
that wasn't even the most absurd thing about that episode
>the size of a sun
It was AT LEAST two AUs in diameter.
Also, that implies that the star it was built around was a near match for our own sun. If it were more powerful (that is, in its "mid-life" not near the end of its life as was the case in the episode), then it would need to be larger than two AUs across. As many as needed.
Then again, if the star in question was lower on the scale, during its mid-life, then the sphere would've had to've been smaller, but I doubt "as small as our sun" is viable. For that to be the case, the star in question would be closer in size to Jupiter than anything we know to be visibly glowing.
>it's a Dyson Spheres are real episode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852
>>62792148
One of the early episodes that was interesting. They never went that far again. Even Q only took them to the Delta Quadrant.
>>62792182
It's possible Q was a remnant of one of those lost civilizations. I believe in one episode they explain that the reason that humans, Vulcans, Klingons, all have the same humanoid shape is because they're descendants of some older alien race that colonized their planets. So humans are the result of the mystery alien race (?) breeding with apes, Klingons are the "?" that bred with crustaceans, etc.
>>62796058
And I thought religions were crazy..
>>62796130
It's not really that crazy of an idea. Q is just the TNG version of Sargon and his bros from The Original Series.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Sargon
>>62793107
That would depend on FOV, which is obviously quite high in the webm.
>>62796058
I don't think it was colonisation, it was an ancient race seeding the galaxy with a common ancestor so ending up with a sentient two legged two eyed humanoid was a likely outcome of evolution
reminder that generations flat out contradicts this episode
>>62796058
I think it was the whole genetic code of the ecosystem, the animals and humanoids just evolved differently depending on planetary conditions
it would make sense why the galaxy is so full for m-class planets with vegetation, even if they didn't all have humanoids
>>62796232
>>62796243
Yes, thanks for correcting me. It's a genetic seeding type of thing. Very similar concept to 2001:space odyssey's black obelisk.
Would this also explain why all of the races got spacefaring technology within a few thousand years of each other instead of hundreds of thousands of years apart?
>>62796316
Never really got into Star Trek, but didn't humans receive space tech from the first time they made contact with the aliens?
I recall people referring to "first contact"
It wasn't just any space station, it was a full blown Dyson sphere
>>62796333
this was a main theme in Star Trek: Enterprise
no the vuclans sort of already had their own kind of prime directive and didn't give them anything, just spent about 100 years standing around on earth as the peanut gallery watching the humans space program grow telling them how inferior they were, and how they'll never make it
>>62792182
Humans are speshal :^)
which star trek series is best?
>>62796058
They didnt breed with the locals. That's genetically impossible. They seeded planets with their DNA
Like that Martian asteroid that might have brought microbes to earth
>>62796058
Stargate's explanation that some planets have human or humanoid inhabitants because an advanced alien race took humans from Earth as slaves in prehistoric times and unintentionally seeded over 9000 planets with humanity makes a lot more sense.
How's this for a TNG plot?
>the ship automatically goes to yellow alert having detected a thermo-nuclear explosion, unimpressed word.jpg, in the vicinity
>it is traced to a large asteroid that has just changed course!
>another is detected
>altering its course again
>that's no asteroid! Its an O'Neil type space ship using a sub-light nuclear pulse propulsion!
>Tracing the changing orbit to its origin system several light years away they discover a dead civilisation at 20th century level of technology, the remains of an enormous shipyard still in orbit
>the ship is a Generation Ship taking centuries to try to reach a habitable planet
>debate rages on whether or not to contact its inhabitants, it goes to the sector admiral, it goes all the way to the federation council
>Picard argues they should, that having crossed into the middle of interstellar space they now qualify, that their design may not be as robust and capable as they had thought and may need help or transport
>after much debate a shuttle docks at the airlock
>they cut through it
>its interior
>Is dead
>the biosphere collapsed decades ago
Remember that time when Data fucked Tasha with his anatomically correct penis? That was a good episode.
>>62796495
Word=Worf
Fucking ipad
>>62796503
>not saying he was a good friend
Fag
>>62796495
for it to be star trek it would have not just end there a virus would have to infect the ship or data or the holodeck or the crew would get possessed etc
>>62796495
Unfortunately the requirement for being contacted hasn't been met (achieving faster than light travel), and Picard is quite strict on the rules. It's more likely another crew member would argue this, like Geordie.
They would also not detect any life signs.
Otherwise yes an interesting premise.
>>62796609
But they've reached interstellar space
Then again there could be the conflict of the story, something Rodenberry always forgot drama needs, could perhaps Geordie defy orders and take a shuttle?
>>62796609
Scanning for life signs on planets is usually based on radio transmissions, atmospheric content, thermal signatures, etc
For a ship, well maybe the asteroids nickel iron surface would be thick enough to prevent detection
Hey, remember that episode where Data - a programmed machine - breaks the prime directive and contacts a little girl on an undeveloped planet?
And then forces Picard to break the prime directive and stop the volcano?
>>62789409
>Remember that time the Enterprise found an advanced space station the size of a sun?
This is just not feasible at all. It would be impossible to maintain, and the prospect of a chain reaction of catastrophic failures is just too strong.
>>62796650
life signs and signs of intelligent life are different things
>>62796683
>not feasible
>impossible to maintain
Apparently not because they found one and it was millions of years old.
>>62791640
Did they use models for this? Looks way better than I remember Next Generation's CGI being.
>>62796683
characters in the Star Trek universe worrying about whether something is "possible to maintain" sounds like the funniest shit ever.
>>62789409
I remember when they beamed through the shield
>>62796800
tng was all model, with some digital enhancement towards the end
it wasn't till a couple seasons into DS9 they went CGI
they were very derisive of B5 and its use of CGI, insistent that they would never ever do that, models superior, etc
Well guess what they hired Foundation Imaging the company that did B5s cgi to do theirs
>>62790100
>star trek ripping off star wars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmU9HLGA5fQ
so if i've never seen star trek aside from a couple of episodes of TNG, what do i start with?
>>62797576
at season 3
the first two seasons when gene rodenberry was in charge were terrible
I dont know how it got renewed at the end of each of those years
>>62797594
no.
>>62797576
TOS or TNG. watch ALL seasons if you can. I would say watch TOS first just because there are only three seasons.
>>62797576
TNG is the only one worth watching. First couple of seasons are pretty bad, villain of the week tier.
>>62797627
dont watch the third season of TOS
there is a reason why people call it the 'turd season'
NBC renewed it after cancelling it thanks to a letter writing campaign
and put a terrible producer in charge to replace rodenberry
who comissioned terrible stories
shit like that Spocks Brain episode are pretty typical of TOS season 3
>>62797646
DS9 is the best
mainly cause it ripped off B5 of course
forget Voyager and Enterprise
>>62797684
lol ds9 is worse than voyager
>>62794468
>its a scotty is fat and useless episode
>>62789560
Suns are bigger than planets.
>>62789506
jesus christ anon
have a fuckin reply
>>62793107
>>62793201
Retard alert
>>62799244
forgot to add >>62797708
>>62797735
Scotty doesn't know
Should I buy the TNG or Voyager(if they ever come out?) blurays or download them?
Ive read that the discs are defective, anyone recently bought a boxset?
>>62793784
>It would be more novel to see the Enterprise near a vast 'wall' of matter than the usual ball shape of any planet-of-the-week.
Shh. Don't let the production design team know.
>>62791834
At least it didn't turn them into penguins or wool dolls knit by hipsters.
>>62796609
>detecting life signs
It's star trek were talking here. They would make some bullshit up.
"The fluxing radiation output from the main thermal exhaust port is messing with our sensors. I can't get a read of what's going on inside the ship captain."
>>62801375
>everlasting ting I don't like is hipster
>>62798007
Another interesting fact: planetary systems are larger than stars
>>62801281
Both of them are on netflix.
>>62801746
Not HD, though.
>>62791640
How is it being illuminated like a planet? God I hate star trek
>>62793345
>Cythereans
The squirting aliens, right?
>>62794311
Weren't they going to make a Ringworld movie?
>>62801281
>>62801746
and amazon prime
>>62790039
Which is a clever plan if you think about it, stick Scotty on a slow ship, deprive him of scotch, watch him figure out a way to make the shuttle transwarp to avoid alcohol withdrawals.
>>62796363
Which is a perfectly logical method of motivating humans to greatness.
Nothing drives someone to invent like being told they can't do it by a snooty asshole.
>>62791973
the enterprise? In the vidya anon posted the spot closest to the enterprise gets shiner the closer the ship gets to it.
>how is anything visible in space?
because it's on tv/movie and the audience needs to see it
>>62796800
>thinks Next Generation used CGI
underage faggot detected
>>62803221
I'm 28 m8, just haven't watched TNG in over a decade now. Last thing Star Trek I watched was DS9.
>>62803874
I'm 28 and even I know that TNG didn't use CGI.
The only thing that ever annoyed me about the 90's era star treks is that they ALL used the same generic 2 "alien planet" city scenes.
>>62803949
im 33, I always thought it was cgi, what was it? practical effects? overlays?
>>62803221
then what was the grid that Q created in the first episode? or much later the weird multicolor thing that was the "offspring" of the ship itself?
fucking cg
>>62804119
both.
>>62803221
It did sometimes. The Crystalline Entity was CGI.
>>62792688
>2001 internet site
Those were good years for web design.
>>62803949
>>62797454
>>62803221
Hey, what kind of models do you think they used for the background shown in this picture of a season 1 episode?
>>62805317
I meant to have >>62792148 there goddamnit, that'd have shown you, that'd show you all.
They did use some fucking CGI goddamnit, was the impotently passive aggressive sarcastic point of my post.
>>62805317
>>62805345
>Some effects in the episode were created in Robert Legato's basement with water reflections and Christmas tree lights. The script was vague about what was seen at the end of the universe, so Legato played with the effects of water reflections on his basement wall. Shooting through BoPET film, he created multiple images which were layered over one another for the final effect (which Legato described as "peculiar and bizarre").[9] Christmas tree lights were suspended and moved, to create the blinking effect seen on screen.[9]
>>62796683
I'm sure an advanced space station the size of a star has solutions to maintenance beyond manually oiling the ol' gears every hundred years or so.
Also probably uses materials like fullerenes but much more robust and advanced, perhaps made of something other than carbon.
>>62796707
See that's some bullshit though, it should be riddled with holes after a million years. The gravity alone would pull so much shit towards it.
>>62803949
I remember this belonging into a series of similar homeworlds (from Year of Hell), but quickly couldn't find a reference.
>>62805648
its too advanced for that
>>62792503
It's especially retarded when they could all just have been cured by the doctor unless he devolved into a candle or a Balinese shadow puppet. Then Starfleet could have just been full of infinite velocity ships crewed by perfect holograms. Maybe that's the real reason they could never make any series after Voyager.
>>62789409
if it's built around a sun how is there any light to see so much of the surface of it other than the barest glint of the enterprises lights
>>62789409
It asplode.
>>62804119
It's called matte paintings (sometimes overlayed with motion models).
