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ITT: feminism done right
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>>62749817

Pic unrelated
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>feminism
>right
Also see your grandma, that's a real strong woman. Most likely.
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Feminists hate LoTR and Tolkien in general.
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>>62749817

I thought the scene was laughable at best, but I didnt care much because the rest is so good
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Can't think of any examples in film.
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>>62749817
i.e. done long before it was cool
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>>62749817
>even Gandalf has problems with the Witchking
>LE I'M NO MAN xDD :^)
no
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Here's an example.
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Reminder that it was merry that actually killed him, as he's not a man. Her stabbing him in the face was just for show, he was already in the process of death and the attack physically did nothing.
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>>62750057
He got stabbed in the back by Merry first, though. Eowyn was getting rekt and even had her entire arm shattered.
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>>62750144
>>62750148
>womyn can't do anything on their own and need a male to set it up for them
so yes, feminism done correctly.
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Still the best handled "stronk female" character to date.
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Is a whore and knows it
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>>62750648
my absolute forever waifu
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>>62750729
me too desu ;_;
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Are you guys just shitposting or do you not understand the point of the prophecy?
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Sarah Connor
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Ripley
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>>62751111
still would
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>>62751111
what? She looks disgustingly androgynous, she's a lame "IT'S ALL MEN'S FAULT" bullshit character.
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>>62749817
>feminism
>right
pick one.
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Furiosa
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>>62749817
She would have been killed if it wasn't for a man half her size.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqS9jxruy-A
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If they're just good characters without any 'Man Up! hehe' tough girl jokes or big foucs on her gender.

Anyway, this beast pic related.
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A good feminist is when a women can be proud of being a slut while having the same or similar ability of men in a particular role.
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>>62751300
Fun Fact: She makes bras for large chested woman now.
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>>62750404
And then take credit for work of said male
Wow, can't believe I never noticed the strong feminist message there before.
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>>62750508
Just like your face
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>>62749817
They botched her character in the sequels, though.
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>>62751372
They botched a lot things in the sequels.
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>>62751397
Ergo
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>>62751212
>she's a lame "IT'S ALL MEN'S FAULT" bullshit character.
This is obvious bait, but I'll bite anyway

Sarah Connor started off as a weaker damsel character in the first movie and was forced through her circumstances to get hard. She doesn't blame men, that's stupid. She recognizes there's a global threat from skynet and she's the only one capable of preparing for it. I also appreciate that it is arguably her motherly instinct to protect her son that drives her to surrender her more feminine nature to protect him - taking on a more fatherly role. It's the way she responds to her circumstances, not as a woman but as a person that make her great.

She is a realistic character with realistic motivations, and looks visually capable of doing tough things. This is part of the reason why everyone really hated Emilia Clarke in the role in the new movie. She looked soft and weak- not properly embodying the character visually.

Good "strong" feminist characters need to be realistic/believable - not just a woman being strong.
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>>62751454
that scene literally makes no sense
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>>62751132
Yep
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>>62750508
How is the fact that feminists hate LotR inane?
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I AM NO MAN

I AM

WO MAN
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>>62751479
You just don't understand it. It's okay, I didn't either the first few times.
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>>62751479
I'd really like architectposting to become a thing
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>>62751300
>Do you ever get mistaken for a man?
>Do you?
>MRW
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>>62749817
post Miranda Otto BLACKED scene
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>>62751457
Well said.
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So the only good female characters are the one that are most masculine and "le bad ass" ?
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>>62751550
http://xhamster.com/movies/2872688/miranda_otto_interracial_scene.html
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>>62751479
You'd have to be a teenager or younger to think that. It's so painfully obvious what he says despite the "big words" that can very easily be inferred.
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>>62751540
from what I gathered, the architect is an avatar of the main computer, and he explains that chosen ones like Neo have existed a bunch of times in previous versions of the matrix as a means of giving people hope? For some reason...

There's lots of psudo-intilectial/religious bullshit prickled through-out, it's hard to follow.

How far off am I? What am I missing?
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A bit unconventional, but I really appreciate the strength of Miss Brisby's character from The Secret of Nihm.

She's a character who isn't a bad-ass, she's just a mother who will do anything to save her children. Too rarely is maternalism treated as a strength in female characters - it's a shame
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>>62751457
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>>62751616
Literally watch it and stop being retarded and shitting up Matrix threads with your terribly misinformed opinions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKpFFD7aX3c
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>>62749817
>Climactic scene
>They confront the witch king
>Shits about to get metal
>We finally get to see what this mysterious dude is all about
>He says "DIE" like peter jackson let a producer's child write the dialogue

At least everything else went okay
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>>62751763
okay, so i was mostly right. I miss-remembered the chosen one thing being an intentional thing as opposed to an unintentional anomaly.

The fact that there is an engineer of the matrix living in the matrix is still dumb - unless he's some kind of avatar of the central computer or a master program that's job is to oversee the matrix and continually re-create it.
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>>62749817
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>>62751714
Agreed wholeheartedly.

There aren't enough maternal women in movies. I don't know why, but my guess is because it doesn't directly lead to violence and sex, which is what draws in an audience.
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>>62751546
it was. years ago.

thatd be like in 4 years, asking for baneposting to start up again.

its never going away
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>>62751714
The whole kitchen scene with her trying to drug the cat was some intense stuff
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Searcy
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>>62749817
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>>62750144

That's false. In the books, Merry's dagger removed all the spells and protections the Witch King had placed on himself which allowed Eowyn to strike the final blow.

In the movies, I guess it might be the same and just not explained, but it's implied that Merry simply weakened the Witch King long enough for Eowyn to kill him.

No matter how you look at it, this interpretation isn't supported by what's read in the book or seen in the movie.
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>>62751905
>The fact that there is an engineer of the matrix living in the matrix is still dumb

Why? He's a computer program just like the Oracle, and the Matrix is his creation. He is closely tied to it. He's not like a human or president of a nation. In a sense he IS the Matrix since he resides at the source.
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>>62751540
>Scene filled with pointless dead end dialouge
>Reveals more history of the setting and the cyclic nature of the One
>lol you don't understand
The Wachowskis have proven they don't have real depth. You're fooling yourself if you think it makes total sense.
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>>62753683
>lol you don't understand

You idiots always take offense to this when referencing the Wakowskis. Just because they write it in language that is difficult for most people to understand doesn't mean anyone is calling them profound. A chicken dressed as a peacock is still just a chicken.
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>>62750508
>can't even spell insane
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>>62751457
fuckin' a well said m8.

ellen ripley is a good example too.
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>>62753739
Eloquent diction is one thing. Hiding your subpar plot point under flowery language isn't terrible. That scene is only nessecary because they needed to make Neo appear to have a moment of noncombative conflict and limitation. It's pointless, does little for the movie, and is a prime example of Wachowski brand convolution.
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>ITT: scenes that would trigger pol if shown today
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>>62749817
Selina Kyle is a strong independent woman that needs no man.
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This is the only example of true feminism I have seen.
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>>62751132
>>62751111
>>62751300
>make female character ugly and boyish
>yep, this is a proper portrait of women
No.
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>>62754222
She needs a man to teach her how to land a kick lmao
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>>62754389
Sure is words, anon.
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Nearly any Miyazaki movie

imo what's particularly cool about Lady Eboshi though is how she's accidentally a subversion of tired weaksauce western "feminism" tropes. She's this strong warrior, scholar, leader that everyone looks up, protects women, all around super woman, but she's boderline villainous in the story. So all her stonk womyn characteristics take on a sort of malevolent quality as her great efficiency is made all the more dangerous because of her inability to see the reasoning and good the hero is trying to do. You know, almost as if she were just a full human being with pluses and minuses rather than a fantasy fulfillment for insecure women.
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This thread stinks.
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>>62749957
>The Boss
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You really can't find a better or more realistic portrayal of a female main character than this one.
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>>62755211
Skully is a better cop
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>>62755020
>Criticizing the story of mgs this way.
Oh common, mgs3 is even the one with least nonsens, Its part of what makes mgs so fun. The boss was cool as fuck too.
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For a board obsessed with TDKR, She hardly gets any attention here.
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>>62755448
It's a great game but I can't help but laugh at how ridiculous it really is when I see that picture.
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Xena

loved by feminists for stronk independent women
loved by men for fap material
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>>62755718
Obviously, but its just part of the mgs charm.
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>>62755531


good movie..terrible catwoman...she aint much to talk about
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>>62755531

I only remember the plane scene.
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>>62753191
I suppose I agree, but the show nearly pushes it too far with her.

>>62753187
I do kind of agree. I like her show portrayal better than the book version, actually. The book is a little biased against her. Or Martin is anyway.
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>protagonist is a woman
>protagonist is a woman police officer
>protagonist is a woman police officer who is pregnant

>No "but you're a lady cop lol"
>No "you can't do anything you're pregnant"
>No "go home sally lol"

>Never once is her gender or pregnancy addressed
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>>62756164
to stay in the theme
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Feminism is bullshit. What you are looking for are strong female characters. Most tend to be Mary sues or grrlpower cartoon characters.

Kill Bill works since it's a woman avenging her daughter and femininity is at the core of why she fights. She is a strong woman without being a male emulator. Feminists love pretending that men and women are interchangeable, but it never works.
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>>62756164
>No "but you're a lady cop lol"
>No "you can't do anything you're pregnant"
>No "go home sally lol"

But when this stuff is brought up it doesn't inherently make it bad. There are a few scenes in Silence of the Lambs where those things are crucial to developing Clarice as a character. When her superior asks her to clear the room of local police officers they at first look at her like "who the fuck is this?" so she has to assert herself.
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>>62753664
You see - this is exactly the psudo-intilectual bullshit i was talking about

The computers created the matrix to keep the people occupied - there is no need for an engineer that resides in the matrix like a god. the engineer didn't create the matrix, the computers created it and he resides over it.
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>>62756497
it doesnt come up aside from the occasional "how's your baby doin"
which is why I like it
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>>62754821

Animu in general is feminist as fuck when you look past the LN harem garbage.

Anime girls can be strong and kick ass without turning into men with tits.
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>>62756497
Was gonna say just this. Putting a female in a heavily male-dominated environment and pretending there isn't anything odd or unusual about that is basically just fantasy or wish-fulfillment.
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>>62751212
>>62754389
virgins detected
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>>62751457
Nice
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>>62754389
physical strength is a masculine characteristic.

If you want to portray women with physical strength in a story, they must be in many ways masculine themselves in order to be believable.
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>>62756566
Most of the "strong" anime females are fetishized fap fuel for lonely betas who want to be dominated.
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>>62756566
it's a good thing she has her physical strength supplemented with magic, or else she'd barely be able to pick up that sword with her lack of muscles and poorly thought through outfit.
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>>62749817

More like Strong Happy woman that isn't bitter as fuck even though she was rejected by her husbandfu. She moves on and finds Boromir's bro.

That's what stronk womyn is. No petty feminism BS.
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>>62755020
>>62755020

Major Zero was the true boss
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>>62756646

You know that PreCure is the most popular Asian show for little girls for the last 12 years right?

Shit makes half a billion $ annually. That's more than Batman.
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>>62756867
why would little girls care about fighting? it's there to pander to the male fans who shouldn't even be watching it due to their age
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>>62749817
Where did she go?
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>>62755531
Why would you want her to be a meme?
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>>62749817
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>>62749817
>"I AM NOMAN"
I thought she was Éowyn
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>>62756944
>why would little girls care about fighting?

Maybe because asian girls are not brainwashed western women? Girls should only like dolls and love right?

You know women make over half of the anime fandom in Japan? And are fans of genres like mecha for decades?

Oh, the silly sexist Japan.
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>>62751454
vis a vis
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>>62749817
>feminism
>done right
so not at all?
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>>62757168

They are making a movie right?
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>>62753187
*Cearcy you fucking mong
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Sucker punch, kick ass and look qt doin it
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Basically a standard action flick but with chicks instead of dudes
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>>62751454
Concordantly
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>>62751343
Hey! That was *my* fun fact.

https://www.jenettebras.com/about
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Kickass obviously

strong lolis are best
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>>62756325
AWFUL

exact opposite of what you quoted
>but MOM, you are le woman!!
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>>62758465
This looks pretty rad. What's it from?
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