>reintroducing blofeld using the best villain actor in history
>using plot points from OHMSS to do it
>subtle nods to goldfinger
>best henchman since oddjob
>best opening in a while
>that tracking shot in the opening scene
actual autists living in assisted living homes are shitting on this movie right now
>>62666440
>too creatively bankrupt to make their own original villain so they pander to nostalgiafags
You guys talk about how minorities should make their own heroes but OL WHITEY CAN RECYCLE HIS TRASH AND SHOVE IT DOWN THE MASSES' THROATS AND CALL IT FILET MIGNON?!?
FUCK YOU
>>62666440
>Blofeld is butthurt because daddy didn't love him
Yeah, 10/10 villain
I liked it more than Skyfall, but that's about it
>>62666440
>best villain actor in history
you what?
![ChristopherWalken[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uIrC2oO.jpg "ChristopherWalken[1].jpg")
>>62666440
>>62666622
What's going..on here..exactly?
Because they did jack shit with his character.
UR ALL KEKS AND NIGGERS
>>62666440
Waltz was weak in the movie, so was Batista. I still liked the movie!
>>62666440
>re-using old ideas is good
Fuck off.
>>62666440
Yeah, I liked this movie. It have it's own stupid moments. Like Bond "building" his gun right INFRONT window of tatrget and pretty whole opening action scene. BUT this movie is something that I can't hate because it's like Dark Knight with nostalgic moments to past-era films (even thou most of people even didn't recognized them), biy SPECTRE is a whole bond-nostalgia set in modern times with modern style of filming and etc.
Train scene (it's ironic that Craig have similar face and appeareance to Robert Show's character Red Grant in train scene in From Russia with Love), snow scene, helicopter staling, a fully weaponized superspeed bulletproof YOBA car with ejection seat, costume refferences (with tuxedo to Brilliants are forever (which is wierdly consirdered as iconic Bond's suit), Moore's polo neck form Live or let die (which is seen on Spectre's poster, but not clearly in moie (wich is also can be refference to Connery's air gun Walter)) ) and skull suit and whole day of dead also from Live or let die, AND MOTHERFUCKING BLOFELD (never belive to Waltz anymore)
If Skyfall was like Bondiana < Realism and actually was like anti-Bond movie all the way (protagonist during whole film considered like something from long campy past, barely saving day to the end),then SPECTRE is pro-Bond movie with Bondiana > Realism, which is I think greatest moment for Putin to leave his role for somebody else.
Again it have some pretty weak points like whole plottwist straight oughtta Captain America 2 or Blofeld's motivation, Skyfall had them too (like explosion by hacking computer, or stupidity for M to use flashlight lone church during the night when they barely escaped Silva), but for SPECTRE something like blurting out damn heli with just pistol is normal because it is normal James Bond movie. That so.
Sry for bad english tho.
You realize he died in the chair right?
Casino Royale>Skyfall>Spectre>Quantum
It's such a fucking long movie.
I don't mind a lengthy running time, especially when the film is so well paced that you can barely tell that 2 and a half hours have passed.
So many pointless locations, as though the producers handed the scriptwriter a list of countries that MUST feature and so they had to tick them off.
>>62666440
Problem is it doesn't work how they reintroduced him. I mean, the Brother angle was literally stolen from fucking Austin Powers.
>What sound does a kekoo make?
Okay, I understand this one. Kekoo's steal a nest and push the other baby birds out of the nest to their deaths.
>What sound does a peacock make?
This retort I did not get
>>62666440
>using the best villain actor in history
Good Luck with that Bro...
>>62666440
>best villain actor in history
wrong
>best henchman since oddjob
that's not Jaws
>>62670066
You just CAN'T take normal Bond movie too seriouosly, anon. 007 always was parody on itself.
>>62670264
No.
I think it had a lot of issues. Some of which being that some of what you listed were false. With characters, writing in general, as a whole package it let me down.
It was a Moor script for a Craig Bond. It didn't fit. For three films we've learned this is a serious Bond and for the most part liked it. Each Bond has had their own style, with the odd few exceptions. Now all of a sudden we're thrown into something tonally completely different.
It was a visually boring film for the most part too, again with the previous films, or at least Casino Royale and certainly Skyfall, we've had a visual treat. Now every shot is a block of a single colour, rarely does anything visually interesting actually happen. It feels like the story - formulaic.
The story feels simply like it had ripped scenes from previous films, in particular the last 3. The torture/interrogation scene definitely felt exactly like a combo of Casino and Skyfall.
Worst of all it has the worst song yet, and for the first time the opening title design was straight up shite.
>>62670393
Also,I don't even know what the Blofeld motivation was. He didn't seem to have any purpose or goal at all.
>>62669460
Huh?
>>62666440
>best villain actor in history
>>62666440
You are right OP it's classic Bond
The criticisms about plot are kind of justified though but it's a James Bond film so who really cares? 2 1/2 solid entertainment hours
>>62666440
>OFFAL YAPANE
What did he mean by this?
>>62666440
There's next to no characterisation for Blofeld, only drops a couple lines around the whole "Wah daddy loved you more than me".
Fucking great visuals throughout, shame about the story and characters. Obvious setup for future movies is obvious.
>>62670421
This. Fucking all over this. I was so hyped when I found out Waltz was the villain. Was looking forward to a fleshed out, interesting, fucking creepy bad guy like Bardem delivered. Instead, we got minimal development for the villain. He was underused.
>>62666440
>best henchman since oddjob
A giant mute guy who punches through walls and doesn't react to pain. Original.
>>62666647
He was great but the first half of his film was bad. Felt he was kind of wasted in that role
Cinematography was better than skyfall
Sexyness of Locations rivaled Casino Royale
The masses requested a toning down of Jason Bond for a more campy one and they got served
If you follow the sartorial side of James Bond, this film was the best dressed Bond in forever. Blofeld looked like shit but everyone else was top tier, especially Moneypenny/The Widow and Madelaine.
The return of the "main" Henchman trope. I doubted this at first, holy shit was I wrong. HE was amazing. A great opposite for Bond, stronger more intimidating, more efficient, just as confident. For the first time since the Aston martin (TM) scene in Casino Royale I felt Bond was truly in Danger.
Dat soundtrack
dat intro scene. I watch James bond for the luxury travel feels (airplanes, suits, cocktails, exotic destinations, women, feeling important) and that carnival intro just gave me a travel boner.
I love that they brought the gift dog back, dunno why
I actually laughed at every terrible joke including the hippie cocktail that looked like puke
Bond getting actual character development
Weaknesses here and there: blofeld rather petty and incompetent, sub-par third act just like the two last films, second HACKING XDDD plot in a fucking row, reproduced the QoS blowing up villain desert hideout AGAIN, &then some
Weird thing is, I actually miss the awkward so up in your face and bad it becomes good and funny product placement from Casino royale (Virgin, Vaio, Omega? BIOUTIFUL etc..) Everytime I watch CR I fucking love how corny it is but it weirdly fits into the materialistic vibe the film is naturally set in.
Worst Spectre character: Q
Best besides 007, Bautista
Under-used: Widow
Great stuntwork all around, love that they kept it vehicle centric (moving train fight, helicopter, classic light plane chase, car -dat limited edition jaguar henchman drives-
I know it's not an exceptional movie, but it's a damn good one by blockbuster franchise standards. This year was a grand cru for spy flicks.
You're all just a bunch of kites dancing in a hurricane.
Peasants.
>autists
you mean just about everybody?
>>62672427
>I know it's not an exceptional movie, but it's a damn good one by blockbuster franchise standards.
Totally agree. It's not exactly pushing the boundaries of cinema but it's a very well crafted film that looks stunning.
>>62666440
Henchman was run of the mill. Pales in comparison to Jaws, Knick Knack, Baron Samedi, Oddjob, and many other non-pleb henchmen. Also...
>I will be able to spy on you all
>okay, for what purpose
>idk senpai, fun I guess
Additionally
>henchman dies half way through the movie
>Blofeld's plot gets btfo pretty quick
>mediocre at best soundtrack
>computers and surveillance were a thing before the evens of YOLT
http://moviepilot.com/posts/3634817?lt_source=external,manual
>So what should we take from this regarding Bond's future?
>My theory is, based on the evidence, that Sony is restarting Bond from the beginning. Spectre was first mentioned in the initial 1962 film, Dr. No, and both the organization and Blofeld wreaked havoc on Bond and MI6 for seven films. Well, eight films including Spectre. Given the inclusion of Bond walking away from his 007 duties with Madeleine Swann and Blofeld not being killed, but "captured," by MI6, I am led to believe previous storylines are being recycled to some degree.
>Even if Daniel Craig does walk away and we get a new Bond for the next installment, they could continue this storyline and Waltz could return as Blofeld. It's only a matter of waiting to see what the studio does with the franchise.
Unfuckingbelievable.. How can someone like that write for a moviewebsite?
The problem is that Blofeld hated Bond for no reason.
>>62666440
>reintroducing blofeld using the best villain actor in history
too bad his character just said a few words and looked evil a bit
>best henchman since oddjob
too bad he was just a shittier version of Jaws
>best opening in a while
Since Skyfall?
>that tracking shot in the opening scene
That one that obviously kept cutting whenever the camera went by a door?
>>62669546
This guy gets it
>>62672427
>Cinematography was better than skyfall
stopped reading there
Don't mess with Roger Deakins
Good:
>Well made action movie
>Some humor is nice after the last movies
>Batista is slightly bland but feels like a proper opponant
>Mr. White
>I like the setup for a multiple movie story line
>torture device is a nice modern twist on the laser concept (but it doesn't work?)
>Q is allright
Bad
>3rd act doesn't make sense and is disconnected from the rest of the movie
>too many location jumps in the first half
>Monica Belluci for 3 minutes. Come the fuck on.
>No chemistry at all between Bond and Seydoux. He's supposed to give up his life as a spy for her but it's unclear what the pull is. They have one awkward conversation and they get drunk in Marocco.
>Blofeld is underwelming after the huge buildup.
>Underused moneypenny
>Mendes pls stop with the "Bond+backup team" approach. This isn't Mission Impossible. I just want to see Bond own people. I don't have to see M fight some guy with his fists.
Weird
>Blofelds motive is that he has father issues..
>What's SPECTRE's goal?
>What was the point of the 9 eyes project? Why wasn't this woven into the third plot better
>Torturedevice doesn't work? didn't it drill into his head? why didn't it deactivate his recognition? Does bond have a magical brain?
>Bond doesn't even watch the Vesper tape. Why show it in the first place?
In the end it was fun. Half hour too long and the 3rd act felt tact on. It's unclear how the plans of the three forgoing villains connect in a larger SPECTRE plot to rule the world (tbqh I don't remember their plans that well senpai). Bonds girl will probably be shot in the next movie.
>>62672427
I like your review, anon and agree with you, exept Q.
Blofeld is petty thou he guarantee will be in future movies. Too bad probably not played by Waltz.
>>62669265
>craig
>bond
>>62673488
oh yeah forgot:
>bond and blofeld are fucking stepbrothers now? why is that necessary?
>also how does a 14 year old kid go from faking his own death to becoming a top criminal?
>>62672939
Are we really considering Knick Knacks existence a good thing?
>>62673543
What?
>>62673550
>2015
>not even ruler of underground empire
I kek'd from you.
>>62672939
>Pales
I kek'd from you.
>>62668433
What? Batista was the best part until he opened his mouth.
>>62674212
Did he open his mouth? I don't remember..
Why did he kill that guy at the assembly?
>>62674338
To establish for all SPECTRE members that he is Big Guy enough for them.
Besides killing deutsches isn't bad.
>>62674338
To establish for all SPECTRE members that he is Big Guy enough for them.
Besides killing deutsches and espaniolas isn't bad.
>>62669546
correct
>>62669546
>Seydoux's ass when they were walking towards the room with the meteorite
>>62675187
webm? I don't remember this for some reason and I have a great ass memory
>>62675486
>webm?
Yeah lemme just make a webm from some shitty cam version for ya
>>62675563
>Yeah lemme just make a webm from some shitty cam version for ya
ok, sounds fine
ill wait
>>62675563
thanks you're a good sport
>You're a kike dancing in a hurricane, Mr. Bond
What did he mean by this?
>>62675187
Been in love with her for 7 years before anyone knew who she was
now normies are all falling in love with my qt
>I'm zee author of "Allyapane"
What did he mean by this?
>>62672939
>mediocre
>soundtrack
huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgbQnQcRN2c
Not on board with this opinion. Some gems in this. Definitely above the average action flick.
>>62672138
>no memory loss
>no motor skills lost
>shoots one gas tank, whole base blows up
>that impossible helicopter shot
>doesn't kill the bad guy for once
>happy ending with pretty girl and nice car driving off
He's dead
>>62666440
>shit Bond coming from a line of shit Bond movies with no charm
it's a good action movie, terrible Bond movie
I honestly found the cinematography pretty bland
everything was way too washed out and monotone and occasionally looked very soft
costume design was incredible though
>>62676160
If you had actually read one of the novels you'd know these movies are much closer to them in terms of tone. Bond was never supposed to be the parody meme shit that Moore turned the franchise into.
>>62675016
Are you legitimately retarded? Dude was Italian
>>62676350
i agree that Roger Moore dialed up the campiness a bit too much, i still enjoyed his movies though
i think Pierce Brosnan was the perfect mix of charm, camp, machismo and action, too bad his later movies had such a bad quality to them, he was a great Bond
>>62676061
>>no memory loss
>>no motor skills lost
this really bugged me since they did set up it
>>shoots one gas tank, whole base blows up
>>that impossible helicopter shot
it's stupid but that's something I'm used to with bond films
>>doesn't kill the bad guy for once
>>happy ending with pretty girl and nice car driving off
last caig's film, they brought all the villains back and shit to get a closure on everything, I have no problem with that
>>62676486
he's still on contract for bond 25 so I highly doubt this is craig's last
>>62676546
it think I've read on multiple occasions that he's not coming back (unless the check they offer him would be really convincing)
Bumo
>>62666440
>long cut opening shot
I bet you liked that in True Detective as well and consider that scene the high point of the season although nothing happens in the plot
>best opening
Bond wears a spoppy skeltal mask then tries to kill some guy in Mexico (while it is also the Day of the Dead, because why not). Then it turns out he was on vacation. Does MI6 really let their agent leave the reservation whenever? Wouldn't they want them to stay in-country whenever they are not on a mission?
>Blofeld is bond's bitchy older brother, gets scar after surviving unsurvivable explosion
All ya pain
>best henchman
big bearded man with pointy thumbnails, fights good, has one witty line before he dies
>>62675940
>normies falling in love with my qt
I don't think a lot of normies saw the raunchy sex scenes in Blue is the Warmest Color family
>>62666440
>blofeld is just a butthurt jelly brother
>bond girl doesn't die at the end
>james leaves the MI6 with his gf
>in skyfall james was too old, suddenly he's young enough in this movie
>vilain is a cliché from 60-70's ("let me invite you then I'll fail to kill you")
the action was good tho
that's why casino royale will be superior
>>62669546
Casino >>> Skfall > Spectre >>>>>> Quantum
>>62678870
Llmao I forgot the scene where M is a field agent too
fucking joke
>>62666440
>implying Sam Mendes is a better director of action than Martin Campbell
Fuck all the way off.
Just came back from seeing this.
Pretty good, minus the campy shit and nonexistent motivations for the actions of most characters.
Are we seriously led to think Blofeld did everything because of daddy issues?
>>62666440
>reintroducing blofeld using the best villain actor in history
By showing him for a whole three scenes and making his motivations borderline satirical.
>using plot points from OHMSS to do it
That doesn't make it good.
>subtle nods to goldfinger
That still doesn't make it good
>best henchman since oddjob
I think he's been the only real henchman since oddjob. Also he had no cool "trick" like the other henchmen did (metal teeth, the hat)
>best opening in a while
Agree, although Casino Royale is a close second.
>that tracking shot in the opening scene
Best part of the movie, I don't think anyone discredits that.
So a whole 15 minutes of the movie were bearable. Doesn't excuse the other 3 hours.
>>62681303
>James bond supervillan
>Not satirical
You sound like some high class faggot criticizing an irish Riverdance because poor people like it.
>>62666440
The plot was barebones and it was fucking boring. Tell me one memorable scene from Spectre?
Nostalgia's cool and all but if everything else fucking sucks it doesn't make a shit movie good.
anything is better than Skyfall
>>62681303
Didn't he have metal thumbnails? Also what the fuck kind of information gathering installation goes up like a goddamn nuke from one goddamn shot, are there no safety checks in that place?
>>62666622
This
Tfw there will never be films like the patriot again
>>62681303
>Every minute of a movie must have a clear purpose and I must be entertained for every minute of every movie
Stop perpetuating this ADHD video game logic. Please?
>>62681472
Scenes I like (not expecting everyone to like them):
>Bond piloting a plane following Batista with no clue how to stop him except flying into him (gradually each part of the plane is destroyed leaving him with a cockpit on two wheels)
>The train fight scene (not as long as the one in From Russia With Love but with graver portent)
>The prolonged torture scene as Bond dangles his trump card
>Bond shooting a helicopter down with a fucking pistol hundreds of metres away
The opening tracking shot and the Blofeld face to face in London with the glass window superimposing Blofeld's face onto Bond's are also great.
It's superior to Skyfall but not quite Casino Royale.
>LOCATIONS LOCATIONS LOCATIONS
>most travel in the film is pointless
>film ends thirty yards away Bond's office
Can't believe Mendes' and crew wasn't smart enough to cut this down properly.
>le secret meteor base
Pointless. Might as well have taken place in the new National Security building, and then you could use all the additional time you save to properly develop Moneypenny, C, Blofield, Swan.
>>62670111
Probably a jab at Blofeld being a boastful prick.
It was too long, struggled to stay awake.
Also, didn't like how they made Lea into Vesper 2.0, didn't feel the love between them.
>>62682682
I was waiting on Bond to execute Blofeld or Blofeld to shoot Lea, like maybe he aims for Bond and the bullet misses bond's vitals but hits her in the heart.
Nope, happy ending.
also that's the fastes I've ever seen a Bon villain's hideout go up in smoke holy shit, one fucking shot?
>Cast Monica Belluci
>completely waste her on a pointless character
Crime against humanity.
I think I figured out another major problem.
Blofelds key threat is his NSA access to the planet...which he never uses against Bond. They needed to show him actually hunting and hurting people with his tech access. It's like having a movie where someone steals a tank but never drives it.
>>62666622
Hello
>>62682875
>sorry about your dead husband
>boom chika wow
>that I killed
>boom chika wow wow
>maybe I can
>UNGH
>takeyourmindoffitafteryoutellmehowtogetintothismeeting
>OH JAMES!
someone told me spectre was a bit of a nod to the whole NSA leaks thing, true?
>>62682925
She should have been the main girl instead of just a toss-away fug.
Would work better with the more 'realistic'-tone they were going for with Craig. They're about the same age and she can actually portray a woman that's his equal counterpart.
>>62682949
Wouldn't that have been Skyfall's bag?
>>62683022
As cool as that is Lea was top QT.Belluci and her under the covers shlicking each other like weasels in heat would've been cool too
>>62682949
>>62683024
Nah. The entire subplot with M was a rather heavy handed reference to wiretapping. Even more blatant than the Dark Knight.
Some nice posts in here. People know their shit. Not sure how to feel about the new one. It's a bizarre movie that seems to be so referential as to throw nods back to Skyfall as a classic that ranks with the greats. I like continuity but please just tell a good story instead of jerking off over the same things. When you think about it Craig has made two separate 4 1/2 hour Bonds.
>>62666622
he did nothing wrong
>>62683165
>kills two of Mel's sons and acts like it ain't no thing
>>62683024
>Skyfall
>>62683059
that and, uh... skyfall came out in 2012, while snowden's leaks were 2013's news, so unless skyfalls writers where timetravelers...
>>62669546
this is actually correct
>>62683258
Hey man X-files predicted 9/11. But yeah I forgot exactly when the Snowden leaks were.
>>62683258
Yes, but it has been part of the zeitgeist since the Patriot Act. In fiction it was always the logical extreme. Snowden just showed it was reality.
I wish it wasn't so meta
The first scene was amazing. That mask gave me a boner, really really great costume design.
Crater base completly destroyed by one handgun bullet are you kidding me?
Overral it was worse than Skyfall but could have been so much more
oh man, I just had a thought.IS THE CAT OK?!?
>>62683383
Wait, which cat?
>>62683403
Blofeld's cat, man!
>>62670393
>worst song yet
For Craig? No, that's Another way to die.
For Bond series in general? Don't be stupid, that title cannot be taken from Madonna and "Die Another Day".
>>62683602
>Don't be stupid, that title cannot be taken from Madonna and "Die Another Day".
At least Madonna was born a woman and not pretending to sing like one.Fuck all y'all DaD haters
>>62683595
Oh shit, I forgot about mr Fluff!
It survived and in the next film it's going to be an ugly bald cat after it's incineration, thematic with Blofeld.
>>62683632
>Madonna was born a woman
Questionable. Sean Penn did nothing wrong.
>>62683664
>It survived and in the next film it's going to be an ugly bald cat after it's incineration, thematic with Blofeld.
More like thematic withMR BIGGLESWORTH
>>62683697
>>62666440
I'm not sure what I think so I'll just blog.
Belluci was criminally underused, and a single shot blowing up and entire base and downing a chopper was stupid.
I keep hearing this argument but I think its slightly off.
>>62666559
Blofeld didn't seem to hate bond for his daddy issues, he blamed/killed his father and tossed aside his old identity, and left bond behind, after all, he is some kind of sociopath.
However, when bond constantly interferes in his plans, he kills those around him as a retaliation.
Which brings us to the theme of "revenge can't save those you love/make you happy". As bond kills and delves deeper, getting closer to spectre, he gives inspiration for the NYT bestseller "Allyourpain".
Bond ends by showing restraint and choosing the girl over revenge, which is foreshadowed when he doesn't watch or take the vesper tape; he has moved on in this regard.
If only these themes had been better shown and executed. Or even if they all were in the accident that killed the father so the audience could at least slightly sympathize with blofeld.
Also blofeld never really gave a good reason for his actions, no explanation about why power was desirable for him, since unlike in skyfall, his motives were not simply revenge. The issue was the ending didn't really enforce this idea, bond didn't have to choose between chasing blofeld and saving his grill in the end.
>>62682925
Dear lord, the whole chemistry at their sex scene was laughably bad. I almost laughed out loud when I saw how awkward the body language was.
His relationship with Lea was was just as badly paced. Like it takes 3 scenes between "I hate you, get away from me" to hardcore flirting and raunchy sex after killing some dude. I get that Bond is a master seducer, but this is the work of a fucking magician.
