Army of Ghosts 10 years later edition
Pretty GOAT build-up episode
1 more episode until the best season turns 10 years old
>>71559090
This can be eassily arranged.
>>71559081
Posting in b8 thread.
UPDATED CASTING CALL FOR THE /who/ AUDIO PRODUCTION OF "Foreman"
1.01 - 'Nirvi'
Scripts here: http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Foreman#The_Leaked_Scripts
Most of the audio has been recorded, but before we can get to mixing the episodes we need 2 more big-ish roles filled. If you want a small and quick easy part, there are still a few of those left as well. Believe in yourself
= MAJOR PARTS WE STILL NEED =
>NIRVI CHANDRATREYA
A "brittle" independent feminist biracial former-Muslim atheist politics student, who wishes to find a sense of belonging in the world.
>"I was attacked by a tentacle monster and saved by an alien who looks like a lanky white boy. Can’t get shocked after a night like that."
>ALEX STARLING
A "fiery" young man, he is disorganised and hopeless but a sexually ravenous party animal. Had a difficult past. Nirvi's 'emotional rock'.
>"Three-hundred year old space alien with razor cheekbones AND he makes a killer sandwich? You hold onto this one, Nirvi."
= MINOR PARTS STILL AVAILABLE =
>Grace Butterworth, an 'oldish white woman' who gives lectures (4 lines in Ep. 1)
"So we can take it as read that suffrage was an essential aspect of the political landscape in the following century. As soon as women entered the game --"
>Second Student, who the Doctor finds high as balls and experiencing 'extreme cognition' from the effects of the Axons' drug (11 lines in Ep. 3)
"Axis XYZ... W is time. Look at it, right? You can’t see time."
>UNIT Guardsmen 1 and 2 (1 line each in Ep. 4)
"You hear he’s Major Scobie’s boy?" "Really? What a waste."
To volunteer for a part, just post in the thread and/or email [email protected] and get recording.
Quality not required.
Any other type of contribution (eg sound design) is also welcome.
Google Drive for the project, with full cast info, files, scene lists and FAQ:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7x2P-L3p262N1hab2hVQVZBWGM&usp=sharing
I unironically liked the Stolen Earth & Journey's End.
>>71559090
This isn't a bad idea desu.
>>71559204
The Stolen Earth was pretty good. Journey's End is where it all went wrong.
Just about to watch Earthshock.
Am I in for a fun?
>>71559268
It's watchable.
>>71559231
>bring back Davros
>focus so much episode time on other nonsense he barely gets to do anything
So glad S9 gave him some actual scenes and dialogue.
>>71559283
Well, I'm not well versed in 5 Doc.
What's a kino from the early 80's?
>WHAT YEAR IS THIS?
>>71559373
Kinda
>>71558600
What the fuck are you talking about? Is this a defense or are you talking shit. I can't tell anymore
>>71559373
Enlightenment
>>71559393
Kinda what?
>>71559456
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinda_(Doctor_Who)
Watch the Special Edition if you can. It has updated CGI effects that are actually much better than the aired version.
>>71559492
Ok. Watchin' Kinda instead.
Think I'd prefer the old FX. Part of why I like old Who is seeing the wires.
>>71559575
Fair enough. I like seeing the old effects too.
http://archive.is/7eSsd Here's every Classic Episode on google drive.
>>71559608
Yeah, that's the archive I'm pulling from.
Was gonna see Battlefield but one or two wouldn't load / DL.
Spielberg said after Peter Jackson does a secret project for him they're gonna do Tintin which would be just in time when Moffat's leaving. We'll he go back to write the next one?
>>71559081
Bit of a disappointment tbqh. A meeting between the Daleks and the Cybermen should have been GOAT but instead we got a few catty remarks and some pretty pedestrian battle scenes.
>>71560059
I don't think it's that likely, apparently he dropped out of Tintin relatively early on in order to take over Doctor Who so he probably wasn't a massive part of the final script. But they might get him back, who nose.
>>71559268Adric dies.You could call that fun. Probably the best part of the serial after the cosy Cyber sentry chat.
>>71560090
His name is the first listed on the writing credits. Dunno if that means anything though.
But yeah you're probably right. He might not want to go back anyways.
Were the Victorian Torchwood audios good? All I really know about them is Jack had dodgy photoshopped sideburns on the box.
>>71559081
Not bad, though I always wondered why there was no Cyber-converted Daleklike a hybrid.
>>71560306Because that would be shit
>>71560331
Well, probably, but imagine the figurine. (They probably still had the "Cybermen only use human tissue" thing in place too)
>>71560134
Ooh. Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish. I may be able to overlook Moffat's involvement and give this a look.
>>71559081
Phuck sake, series 2 was shite.
I think most Who fans were so grateful it was back on TV we didn't dare criticize it at the time.
>>71560838
Nice image. Can I have a transparent?
>>71561227
S2 = comfy and better than the melancholic, piss poor colour corrected Capaldi era. FACT.
>>71561227
Reminder that Charlie Brooker was willing to criticise Series 2 after it aired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XAEN9gAx0
>>71561272
>s2
>comfy
>well color corrected
>not melancholic
>>71559339
GOAT scenes.
>>71561227
Truly the worst series. Worst Doctor/Companion relationship. Only has 2 good episodes, 3 if you're feeling generous.
>>71561389
Capaldi and Bleach were amazing. Too bad there are no interviews with Julian Bleach about the show. I'd love to read or hear him talk about the Role.
>>71561626
Think he refuses to do them
>>71561657
Wonder why? I can understand being overwhelmed going to a convention or something but not even a DWM interview or something? Ah well.
I forget, how did Davros get out of this one?
>>71561766
Thanks.
Stolen Earth
Davros: 14 Lines Of Dialogue
Journeys End
Davros: 44 Lines Of Dialogue
The Magician's Apprentice
Davros: 25 Lines Of Dialogue
The Witch's Familiar
Davros: 76 Lines Of Dialogue
>>71561987
>And Davros is still shit in both stories
>>71562048
Why was he shit in S9?
>>71561848
The strip Emperor of The Daleks covers the events between Revelation and Remembrance quite well IIRC.
>>71562096
Didn't get any ranty Davros moments. The biggest letdown was the story though, or there lack of.
>>71561334
Based Brooker.
The girl Girly Letters harassed to have filming info has passed away today. This makes me sick that she had to put up with GL's shit when it should have been her own privileged moment. Rest in peace.
>>71562399
Not defending GL, but it's in extremely poor taste to pretend you give the slightest fuck about the dead girl when you only see her as an excuse to shitpost about GL and feel morally justified.
Do you have it on personal testimony from this girl that she gave a shit about the time GL asked her annoying Doctor Who questions on Twitter? How long ago was that anyway, last year?
And yet you write a post telling her to rest in peace, but spend almost half of it outraged at some stupid fucker who was totally irrelevant to her life. It's very clear where your real interest lies.
>>71559268
They were running around for 4 episodes and then crashed the freighter with no survivors. I guess it was fun, but out of classics I watched, this one was not actually memorable.
>>71562577
I think its a bit overrated because ofAdric's death. It's not an awful episode though.
>>71562523
Fuck off mong anon.
>>71562523
Absolutely not, that poor girl deserved to live way longer than she did and I think I have the same age as her so it hurts me even more. And it doesn't matter that she gave a shit about GL's intrusion in her life is simply bad form and irrespective to ask her such petty details about filming, the girl had a wish and it was supposed to be her day. I really wish the girl to rest in peace, regardless of Girly Letters and what I think of what she did to her. Sorry if I came across as "he's using that girl to shit on GL" that was not the intent, it's just that we only really did know about her because of GL's actions.
Are you ordering?
>>71562681
I agree anon. GL should be ashamed. Wonder if she will tweet anything.
>>71562933
Unless it gets very positive reviews and word of mouth I'm not bothering.
>>71562933
I still don't understand how Sontarans are NuWho.
>>71563007
I imagine they are the shitty comedy Sontarans and not the based Sontarans of the classic era
>>71562939
Apparently she did.
People on GB actually think Pearl will still be the companion in Series 11.
>>71563007
>>71563027
It's been confirmed that the sotry is set during the time war.
Also, I tried psoting that pic >>71562933
earlier today but I couldn't because "they might have been some dangerous files in the pictures" or some bullshit like that. Never happened to me before.
>>71563007
It's ironic because the guy who plays Strax has been voicing Classic Sontarans in audios for a while now. So it will even sound the same.
From the description it sounds like they're basically doing 'Sontarans trying to join the Time War' and that's their justification.
>>71563027
Apparently it has to do with the Time War. And this guy? http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Jask
https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/classic-doctors-new-monsters-volume-01-1315?range=113
Idunno though. Still seems like an odd choice for a NuWho/Classic boxset. They should have used theSlitheen
>>71563125
>>71563137
But weren't the Sony Arabs left out of the Time War and that's why they hate the Time Lords?
>>71563120
>>71563137
>Time war
I thought the sontarans weren't allowed in the time war? At least thats what Staal was ranting about in the sontaran story of S4
>>71563162
Maybe? Was that said in the RTD Era?
>>71563162
>The final story is The Sontaran Ordeal by Andrew Smith. Paul McGann's Eighth Doctor do battle with his old enemies the Sontarans – but this time in a new and deadly form, ready for a War they must never take part in!
The Doctor probably stops them actually joining in.
>>71562933
Preordered
(it was a bday present)
>>71563179
Big Finish isn't canon so it doesn't matter.
>>71563245
I might have to. I'm trying to build a complete Paul McGann audio collection.
Do you think McGann will ever stop making audios? Seems like he's been doing them forever.
I never listened to any of them except the one in the River Song boxset and it wasn't that great
>>71563104
Well it's not entirely unpossible, probably won't be decided for sure until they see how Pearl's received
>>71563355
Well, he almost quit after the divergent arc because he basically thought that the storylines were bullshit. So he does not have the insane devotion to the show that, let's say, Colin has. But it's an easy job for ok cash.
>>71562933
Is it 4 hour long stories or more like main range?
>>71563492
4 hour long I think.
Maybe it's just me but I don't understand intense speculation for new doctor who series. There's been over 30. I like to just let it happen unless there's new doctor hype.
>>71559081
>mfw Yvonne Hartman
>>71563125
>>71563199
Aren't they doing the same thing in the next War Doctor set?
>"I didn’t enjoy my third year as much. It was a bit miserable," "The workload was just insane. I wasn’t coping as well. No-one else’s fault, all mine. The 50th was looming, and I didn’t know if we could make it work. It was a tough, tough time. My darkest hour on Who was that."
>"Matt, who was a friend and ally, was leaving – I couldn’t get him to stay. It felt like everything was blowing up around me. I was staggering into the 50th, with no Doctors contracted to appear in it, battered with endless hate mail about how I hadn’t got William Hartnell back and Sherlock Series Three at the same time."
>"I was pretty miserable by the end of it, and I coudn’t bear to let that be the end", he added, explaining why he stayed on after this tough series when the option to walk away was very much on the table.
>>71563686
>No-one else’s fault, all mine.
Oh Moffat, so modest. We all know it was C_______ S______'s fault, and that's why she had to be erased.
What will become of my
What will become of my daughter?
>>71559492
just finished Kinda.
reasonably entertaining commentary on colonialism, I guess?
The security guard loosing his mind was fun to watch.
Tegan seems like a waste of space and Nyssa was in the Tardis with menstrual cramps or something.
so they redid the special effects, huh? I don't much see the point. The giant Mara snake was fine and the Dark Space effects didn't bother me at all.
>>71564020
>The giant Mara snake was fine
Well, to each their own
>>71563534
New companion hype is ok too
>>71564020
>The security guard loosing his mind was fun to watch.
>>71564069
Nah. Within context, I still prefer the giant paper mache boondoggle.
>>71564130
Hindle a GOAT
>>71564130
YOU
>>71564130
Kek, only ever infosorbed Kinda in novel form and see what I missed...
>>71564177
RUINED
>>71564177
CAN'T
>>71564201
Why'd you do that?
>>71564216
MEND
>>71564277
PEOPLE
>>71564277
PEOPLE
>>71564177
LIKEKINDA
>>71564325
wow.
>>71564360
Kek I bet you thought I was gonna meme you
>>71564255
No particular reason, just happened to find the book before the DVD (this was before I discovered /who/ and dodgy ways of watching things online). It was one of my first stories ever, actually, along with Arc of Infinity and Enlightenment.
>>71564464
You're missing out.
>>71559231
They were disappointing, but Davros' scenes were awesome.
>>71563686
>>71563801
The full story about all that will be revealed eventually.WFT did Caro Skinner do so wrong?
>>71564437
Is any of you /who/vers actualy excited for this Pearl woman?
cause I've yet to feel anything. Kenda numb really.
>>71564557
Yes I'm excited for this Pearl woman. Bill will be the best companion, just you wait.
>>71564557
No. Sjw. Bring back Clara.
>>71564699
>implying Jenna isn't a SJW but just doesn't have time to retweet SJW tweets because she's busy filming
Hey, i've found a twitter page worse than Girly Letters
https://twitter.com/WhovianFeminism
>>71564661
>best companion yet
Freema's backside > everyone else
Re-watched Power of 3 today.
Was pretty comfy thought. Feeling more hopeful about the Chinball era.
>>71564807
>implying
>>71564906
not discrediting the assertion, but this particular piece of evidence is inconclusive
I'll require further convincement.
>>71564557
Yeah. Without taking Moffat's hastily written audition-sketch-clip too much to heart, it seems like they are going for a bit of an Ace like innocent punk character, except with an afro twist. Which is a welcome change from the prim sharpness of Clara or the moody sweetness of Amy. It's also a much bigger contrast with the incumbent Doctor than 11/Amy, 11/Clara or 12/Clara were. There is a clear unlikely mentor dynamic at work, again a bit like 7/Ace, with the companion's curiosity and silliness undercutting the Doctor's grandiosity. It will be fine.
>>71564906
The fact that she is a rampant SJW leftist progressive regressive puts me off. MASSIVELY.
No Gareth Roberts episode by the looks of things as well - Series 10 is looking like it will majorly flop.
>>71564981
Recall that Ace and the Professor got the show canceled.
>>71565007
This meme needs to stop.
>>71565052
Hi, Mark. How do you feel that The Caretaker was a highly rated episode, yet your Robin Hood historical was panned by millions?
I just wonder why you get to write every year? Hmm?
>>71565007
Gareth Roberts hasn't written a single good episode of NuWho. Why in the world would you want him back?
>>71565047
But they were the best pairing of the classic series.
>>71565047
Don't be silly anon.
Mary Whitehouse got the show cancelled by indirectly getting Hinchcliffe sacked.
(Although JNT following The Caves of Androzani immediately with The Twin Dilemma didn't help. Nor did all the other 10 odd years of assorted shite.)
There is such a long string of catastrophic fuckups well before Ace came anywhere near the show, the damage to Doctor Who's status as a cultural institution had been done. Michael Grade just killed it off at a convenient opportunity.
>>71565047
Nah Colin's era and Season 24 got the show cancelled.
By the time it was getting good again it was just too late. The audience had already left.
>>71565129
he suck's moffat's dick
>>71564944
>>71565047
Nah, Grade wanted to cancel the show ever since seeing the Myrka.
>>71565130
>Gareth Roberts hasn't written a single good episode of NuWho.
Ha ha! What planet are you on? Bloody Mondas?
You just cant appreciate the deep political subtext of the Gareth Roberts stories. Only the sharpest of minds tend to understand his episodes.
>>71565129
I liked Robot Hood well enough actually, at least it wasn't found footage.
>>71565254
Yeah Sherwood was fine aside from the dumb ending.
>mfw realizing the Whoodie has been here since Time Heist
>>71565129
Hi Gareth. It's above average simply because there's a little thing you forgot "written by Gareth Roberts AND Steven Moffat". You're a hack.
I wonder why you haven't come back. Hmm?
>tfw you remember you still have to wait until Christmas for more TV Who
>>71565337
What about The Shakespeare Code, Mark? At least Gareth had the balls to make it historically accurate by including the genuine attitudes towards black people during the time it was set - unlike Moffat who adheres to leftist fantasy.
I'm not Gareth, although I wish I was, but I assume he has not come back to Doctor Who because it is beneath him now. I imagine he's probably penning the screenplay for the latest deeply political Hollywood blockbuster.
>>71565424
>the genuine attitudes towards black people during the time it was set - unlike Moffat who adheres to leftist fantasy.
>walk around like you own the place
>>71565424
Human Nature did it better with Joan and Martha, though, all Shakespeare Code had was the one exchange about "just walk around like you own the place".
>>71565482
Nice rare Gareth
>>71565536
Kind of makes you wonder now we have another black companion, will we see the show trying to address racism (or even just race itself) again? How different will it come off under the Moff?
>>71565424
No one cares about historically accurate settings when the plot and everything else is shit, Gareth. But nice try.
Yeah right, Gareth, it's not very nice to lie on the Internet you know. You mean the one you're making in your basement with puppets? How are you choosing the subject, hmm? Throwing darts at pictures of Moffat or Peter? If it falls on Moffat it'll be about the Jews, if it's Peter it'll be about cutting old people's pensions? Is that how you're doing it? Because it seems like your behaviour has got you ERASED from TV and cinema altogether.
>>71565482
Am I wrong for thinking that scene was Racist?
Imagine a black person "walk around like you own the place" in the US 50s South and what do you thinks gonna happen to them...
>>71565649
No you're right. Gareth constantly shits on black people. He also called Courtney a shop lifter even though nothing suggests she is.
>>71559189
>/who/ faces its greatest challenge yet: trying to find literally a single femanon to voice a grill character
>>71565649
Yeah, London was probably *slightly* better because of occasional traders from Africa or wherever, but it's still a jarring line (maybe intended to be?)
Ah fuck ;_;
Imagine if Class was written by Gareth?
>>71565605
I imagine they'll have to do something with it if they go far in the past. I think it could make for an interesting story if done right.
>>71565482
Why is this movie poster behind him? Is he a fan?
>>71565862
She'll meet a mummy in ancient Egypt and will become its servant because she's black and they were slaves.
>>71565783
>goes to her twitter
>shes dead
Jesus Christ, anon. Why did you have to do this to me?
>>71565783
Depressing. Reminds me of Heart Failure Anon never got to see the 50th. ;_;
>>71565899
>this will never happen in Doctor Who
Why live? It's hilarious ;_;
https://youtu.be/pDWR5RkWRTY
>Pearl Mackie retweeted this
>https://twitter.com/guardian/status/749194401298145280
>She literally wants to destroy the West
>Gareth is not the new showrunner
>Why
;_;
>>71566120
Why are you doing this?
>>71566069
Let's see... Maisie Williams with some kid and his mum/big sister. How can we possibly survive such horrors?
>>71566153
Sorry anon.
>>71566182
Islamic economic migrants actually.
>>71566191
I mean if at least it served a purpose or anything. I hope she rests in peace and somehow she can watch Series 10..
>tfw Chibnall Who will have a writer's room and will lose its soul like Law and Order SVU
Why live?
>>71565862
You know, what if they did a different take on that completely?
Have a story set in a black community, and for once the Doctor is the odd one out, with all the interesting nuances that incorporates. We've had stories touching on a companion's blackness but never one on the Doctor's whiteness.
>>71565783
>that way her Twitter is active up until the day of her death and then the updates just fucking stop
>just a stony, pervasive silence across the entire page, even though you can scroll down and see her smiling and making happy tweets just like everything was normal, perfect memories frozen in time
Social networks were a mistake.
>>71566349
>implying Chibnall won't be sacked after 1 series and Gareth will be the new showunner after the BBC realise the error of their ways
>>71566413
That's enough. Seriously. Shut the fuck up you disrespectful, ignorant cunt.
>>71566413
This is horrible, please stop now
>>71566349
I think a group process of coming up with story ideas, followed by dividing the writing work to be done by individuals, might not actually be too damaging.
>>71566577
Nah its gonna be a mess. Everyone will want to do their own thing with the Doctor and the companion and it will be all over the place because Chibnall doesn't have what it takes to save the scripts. We'll see but I'm not confident.
>>71566577
Hopefully it works a bit like the VNA writer community where everyone would bounce ideas back and forth, Cornell inspiring Orman who went on to cowrite with Aaronovitch etc. And it might kill ideas like "scary eyebooger man" before they get started.
>>71566725
Let's hope Mark goes with Moffat
>>71566706
It's not confirmed that he's even doing it, he was just looking at options anyway.
>>71566725
Yeah that's my main hope. I feel like a lot of things that make it into NuWho could easily have been shot down at the concept stage if there was just another creative voice to say "that would be pretty shit, mate".
>>71566760
>if there was just another creative voice to say "that would be pretty shit, mate".
Isn't that what Brian Minchin is supposed to do?
>>71566793
I guess what I mean is "a bunch" rather than just one, and on a writing level rather than on a tryiing-to-get-a-show-made level. Although one wonders what kind of things got scrapped when dust eye cameras was the most viable choice.
>>71566760
Just having Chibnall in as opposed to Moff will make that easier, it seems like no one wants to say anything about his ideas when he's running the Beeb's two biggest franchises. Which can be a good thing - it gave him the ability to say "no, screw the marketers, I'm casting a wizened old Scottish dude" - but also brought us endless scenes of Clara leaving and returning.
>>71564888
Power of 3 is pretty good right up until the ending where it all goes to shit. Honestly Dinosaurs is really fucking underrated, now that's a fun fucking episode with some cool characters.
>yfw Chinballs brings based Riddell back as companion for series 11
>>71566850
>not liking capaldi
get out
>>71566923
What? I said it was a good thing he casted him.
/who/ here is hyped for the highly anticipated and awaited K9 movie. I know I am!
>>71566850
>endless scenes of Clara leaving and returning.
Not his fault Jenna kept changing her mind m8.
>>71566976
Sorry I misread.
Can't this be filled for harassment? He's touching her. And she's clearly terrified.
>>71566850
>it seems like no one wants to say anything about his ideas when he's running the Beeb's two biggest franchises.
That's a convenient idea but at the end of the day things like Clara's 2 false exits were a result of having to write the show as they went along and not being certain if Jenna was leaving or staying, not some crazy game plan by Moffat. I'm talking about things like "now let's put in a cat man and a sequence where they have to hide behind some furniture" or "the sleep dust can see" or "random Tivolian", no-one would have been scared to raise issues with any of that. The insularity of the script process and collective desperation/madness of the people involved is what leads to this folly.
>>71566923
>reading comprehension
>>71567214
>now let's put in a cat man and a sequence where they have to hide behind some furniture
What?
>>71567205
>that filename
About to watch the crusade (parts 1+3 on vhs and 2+4 on audio)
Am I in for a good time?
>>71567255
I think he's referring to the scene in Woman Who Lived which was rather badly directed and you could see someone wearing a microphone or something.
>>71565007
Why does it matter if she's like that outside of the show? You sound like the "Hartnell was a racist" people, even if this was true it doesn't matter as long as he didn't let it interfere with his work and you should look at it the same way with Pearl.
>>71561848
wasn't that a fake head?
>>71565783
>tfw someone who genuinely loved the show and was excited for it won't get to see series 10 but the kind of people who watch it while shitposting about how much they hate it in a live thread will
So is Capaldi going to become the Valeyard? Or is there going to be an asspull so that the writers can pander to their teenage audience who doesn't even know who Colin Baker is?
>>71569058
The answer is that there is no obligation for the Valeyard to be addressed in the show, nor has there ever been such an obligation, and it is highly unlikely that anyone will ever bother unless they have an idea so spectacularly good it justifies resurrecting a shit villain from a shit era of the show.
>>71569104
So you're saying that there's no obligation for a show to have an internally consistent plot.
Thanks for your retarded opinion, friend.
>>71569156
Ah, I see you're baiting. After all, no-one is stupid enough to think the shambles of Doctor Who continuity qualifies as a 'consistent plot'. Carry on. You might even coax someone into a kerfuffle!
>>71569058
Valeyard came from forbidden experiments Smith did on Trenzalore
>>71568556
Okay now that's the most depressing thought of all
>>71562933
I'd buy one of them, but not all of them.
>>71568556
This makes me feel a bit shitty. Fuck.
>>71569776
Which one? Five/Angels is the obvious novelty, but I dunno if it'll actually work well, would probably go for Six/Judoon myself for those sweet SCO RO JO CO voices.
>>71569876
Yeah, Five/Angels is the only one I have any interest in. I don't expect it to be SHEEP but I'm curious.
>>71569650
>treating a bad fanfic re-interpretation of an account that was literally implied to be a lie within the audio it comes from as valid
>>71569945
If someone comes along with a story that's more interesting I'll be happy to accept that, but for now it's a good enough placeholder. Heck, they might actually make it when Matt runs out of Pride Prejudice and Zombies money.
>>71570051
I'm perfectly content for it to be the nth Doctor far off in the distant future, but shoehorning it onto Trenzalore is a fucking awful idea.
Never really understood why people wanted a Valeyard "explanation". The original story doesn't really feel suitable or compatible with further explanations.
>>71570250
The original story isn't even compatible with itself. The final episode was cobbled together by Pip and Jane when Holmes' plan was thrown out. Whatever sane explanation for the Valeyard we might have got was replaced by their inept shit.
>>71570312
So Holmes didn't actually intend him to be the Doctor?
>>71570743
Wikipedia::
>Robert Holmes was originally commissioned to write the two episodes. However, he died from a chronic liver ailment after completing a draft of the first and left nothing beyond a plot outline of the second. The series script editor Eric Saward resigned around this time due to disagreements with the producer, John Nathan-Turner, but agreed to write the final episode based on Holmes' outline, and also rewrite Holmes' draft to tie the two together, for which he was credited as Script Editor. The original ending to this segment (and, indeed, the whole Trial story and possibly the series) would have seen the Doctor and the Valeyard in an inconclusive cliffhanger, both (seemingly) plunging into a void to their deaths as an extra "hook". However, Nathan-Turner felt this was too downbeat[6] and believed that it was important that the season did not end on an inconclusive note since it was important after the hiatus to prove the series was back in business. Saward refused to change the ending and withdrew permission to use his script very late in the day, by which point the production team had been assembled and the segment was entering rehearsals.
>John Nathan-Turner commissioned Pip and Jane Baker to write a replacement final episode. For copyright reasons they could not be told anything of the content of Saward's script (and there were lawyers observing all commissioning meetings).
TARDIS wiki:
>An earlier draft of The Ultimate Foe made it clear that the Doctor would definitely, at some stage, turn into the Valeyard, desperate to extend his life after his remaining regenerations had run out — a situation not dissimilar to the one earlier faced by the Master. Nathan-Turner did not favour the dark nature of these and other developments in the script, and felt this plot point would allow cancellation of the series for bookending the Doctor's future destiny.
>Great Powers
So this was a 2nd Doctor catchphrase in the old comics? I thought it was just a thing in that meme image. Does he ever say this on TV?
>>71570982
"The Doctor"fags BTFO
>>71571141
Now doubly so.
>tfw we will never get a companion from SJA
>tfw we will never get a companion from SJA
Remember this classic?
>>71574153
what the
>>71574153
DELETE THIS
>>71574294
How's everyone doing? All well? Ish?
>>71574812
Nobody wants to see that.
>mfw going in the series 5 live threads and seeing all the Moffat dick sucking
>mfw seeing all the cancerous emoticon faces, tumblr speak and underage posting
I'm now starting to be thankful for our current live threads where it's just all hate and complaining.
>>71575275
>>71575424
Liar
Why live?
>>71574153
It's funny because it's true.
>>71575707
you read it?
>>71575369
>our current live threads where it's just all hate and complaining.
Since when? I don't do live threads but /who/ seems to be filled with casuals on-season that actually like the show.
>>71575740
you can't argue with:
"works as a teacher because everyone knows what a teacher is"
You just can't do it.
>>71575707
Yes?
>>71575740
Yes.
>>71575902
>/who/ seems to be filled with casuals on-season that actually like the show.
Wot? Are you from another universe? Everyone hates the show during on-season.
>>71575930
i don't even know what that means
>>71575902
>missed pig-shit anon obviously
>>71575980
Clara couldn't very well be an oncologist, now could she?
>>71576013
i guess?
>>71576085
precisely.
>>71576137
i'm not really getting what that quote is arguing or what you're agreeing with desu. are you saying they made her a teacher because its easy to identify with or something?
>>71576178
maybe
>>71576284
okay
>>71575962
Maybe I should start browsing on-season, in that case.
>>71576309
you hate the show?
>>71576340
It's Doctor Who, after all.
>>71576385
did you hate s9?
>>71576340
Yes? I'm a fan.
>>71576447
I'm not that Anon, but no. I didn't "hate" s9.
But I did feel an overarching sense of letdown.
Perhaps I built up too much hype last August.
>>71576554
I was pretty hype too and I had a good time with it. I really liked all the cliffhangers, made it feel like Classic Who kinda.
>>71576715
Best cliffhanger was lil Davros reveal
Reminder the based Sonic Sunglasses are gone and we are forever stuck with the new shitty sonic ;_;
>>71577052
The le epic glasses will be sorely missed.
>>71577052
the new one is a pretty ugly & uncomfy design
I'd probably regret buying one if I wasn't an autist
>>71577100
It looks uncomfortable to hold and over designed.
The Sunnies were simple and Capaldi looked good in them.
Capaldi looks awkward with the sonic screwdriver, whether it was 11's or his blue dildo. He should have been a sonicless Doctor from the start.
>>71577189
Meant to reply to >>71577138
>>71577189
maybe they will reappear? he used them in the last ep.
>>71577208
Not sure getting rid of the sonic completely is a good idea. I think overall it's been used less and better S8/S9 than it was during the Smith years. I hope they don't overuse the new one in S10.
>>71577337
i hope nardhole steps on it and breaks it into tiny little pieces in the opening episode
