New Yorkers of /trv/ help me
I'm from San Francisco and my company is sending me to our NYC office in July, so I need to find a place to live. Is it true that you need to make 50x your rent in order to even get a place?
I'll be working in lower manhattan. What are some decent places (when I say 'decent' I mean that I won't get robbed/stabbed and has access to the subway, not some fancy ass trendy neighborhood) in NYC that I can live that don't have ridiculous rent stipulations? Also, is it possible for me to rent without signing a lease, as I'm not 100% sure how long i'll be living in new york
One more thing, my co-worker that got sent to the NY branch is living in the Eastern part of PA and drives an hour to NYC every morning. Does anyone have any experience with this? She says she is making a lot of money with this arrangement, what are the pros and cons?
>>1120838
Where's your office?
>>1120838
Ugh I missed the lower Manhattan part.
What's the closest subway line?
>>1120851
I don't know. My office is in the financial district.
find an apartment across the river in nj or somewhere in queens maybe. i have friends in jersey city, hoboken, and astoria and they all enjoy where they live and have easy access to subway lines. i also live in the suburbs of northern nj where lots of family people who work in the city commute from.
>>1120838
You'll find the same kind of overpriced mess you did in SF. You might have to live in Queens or Jersey.
>>1120838
>Eastern part of PA and drives an hour to NYC every morning
Don't fall for this trap. It is an hour outside of rush hour only.
>>1121066
Yeah I can't imagine commuting from PA to NYC every day. Sounds hellish. What's the point of getting a job in NYC if you're going to do something like that?
Anyway OP if you'e moving here from San Francisco I don't think you'll find the cost of living very shocking. NYC is much bigger and has more affordable neighborhoods than SFO.
If your company is sending you to NYC can't you negotiate some kind of moving/lodging stipend?
Not OP but what are peoples thoughts on the far rockaway neighborhood of queens? I realize it's a 75 minute train ride to manhattan, but you are close to brooklyn and right by the water. Is it niggery over there or what?
>>1121652
You bet your ass. Especially the Redfern houses. Ghetto is the proper term. Small hasidic neighborhood.
>>1121652
Rockaway Park is generally nicer and it's still affordable. That's a terrible commute but when the ferry comes it might be better.
>>1121641
They do it to stack chips. Earning an NYC salary and being able to live in a giant home in PA.
>>1121953
Sure but gas, tolls, and parking aren't exactly cheap. Not to mention the early death assured by doing that drive every day. If having a giant home is your top priority then go for it...
Where did you live in SF?
Much to the north is expensive, but not NYC prices. Westchester is still expensive, and Putnam is really far north at that point (we're talking 75 minutes or more for an express train to/from grand central). Parking at Metro north railroad stations is generally $3/day; a permit is a little cheaper but there's a waiting list to get them. You can sleep on the train which is nice. Putnam county is definitely cheaper than Westchester. White plains is about 45 minutes north of Grand central in westchester...again, bit more expensive, but not NYC prices.
I personally would not want to live on the Jersey side or take a car into NY. Between tolls, traffic and cost of parking it isn't worth it.
If you go further east in Westchester (around ossining) it's cheaper than some of the other communities (That being said there are bad and good parts of ossining). That's westchester, but much closer to NYC (45min-1hr). Peekskill is 60 minutes.
Monthly train ticket prices vary by the fare zone; the further north you go, the more the monthly ticket costs. I was in zone 7 (I think) on the Harlem line, and last time I was buying monthly unlimited tickets for peak it was ~$360/mo in 2011.
An hour from PA sounds extremely optimistic, but if your coworker can vouch for it and the bus is a reliable option, that probably would be cheaper than going elsewhere in New York. And it might not be that bad too if your employer gives you flexible options on work.
Serious question. How are there even low income people in NYC? Like, obviously NYC has pizza delivery boys and shit. How do they literally survive?
>>1120838
OP, unless you're a celebrity with crazybank salary that is no object, you need to simply talk to a realtor and know your options for commuting and if they make sense to your energy level vs cost of living. Renting without a lease is called a short term rental, or month by month, and you can expect to pay about 30% more for the privilege of them pasting and re-renting the unit more frequently than yearly. There are realtors that specialize in this too, and they check their MLS listings and receive about $500 or so in a signing bonus for the placement. Some brokerages even manage the properties like this. Or you could try the kinds of hotels that are for long term/extended stays and do your own hunting for lovable neighborhoods and commuting ideas once there. Surprised your company isn't putting you in touch with a relocation specialist who would do this for you...
>>1122487
>Serious question. How are there even low income people in NYC? Like, obviously NYC has pizza delivery boys and shit. How do they literally survive?
All of manhattan is high income, most everyone else commutes or lives on the floor of other people's apartments 10 people at once. That's the immigrant experience everywhere, from Miami to Chicago. The more people are contributing to the rent the cheaper, esp when it's your cousin letting you stay for cheap as long as you don't mind living third world style on top of each other. But, you can be sure the low income jobs in NYC actually have a higher wage and.or living wage, that's supply and demand for you. Also, some people are in rent controlled units (section 8 style housing) in every neighborhood, though the waiting list is long.
in new york 60% of people are immigrants/niggers, and the rest that look like white people, wear nice clothes and live in good neighborhoods, are actually Jews. Very hard to find actual white people in this city. You should only move here if you enjoy the nigger/jew experience
>>1122520
Check out Williamsburg
>when I say 'decent' I mean that I won't get robbed/stabbed
Holy shit do people base their view of NYC on 80's and 90's films? Fuckin hell this place has been gentrified for years. I wish people would stop being so ignorant on that subject.
>>1122520
The jew kid looks pretty friendly
>>1122520
White Catholics are the majority in NYC, you ignorant fool. Jews only make up 13% of the city and blacks 25%.
Idiot.
>>1122499
Rent control is not Section 8. Rent control was put in to freeze rates. Later when market value was established you could charge anything you want except for the rent controlled places that were already established. Section 8 is when the government pays landlords to rent to low income people. Also there are still a lot of projects and big co-ops like Rochdale Village and Co-op City.
>>1122981
how did you get out of your /int/ containment board?
back you go
shoo
>>1120838
the only way it would be possible to make it from eastern PA to lower manhattan in an hour was if there was some independence day type shit going on and everyone was trying to leave. even then there would still probably be inbound traffic
How much are you going to make annually, OP? This information will help me give better advice.
It sounds like you don't want to rent a single room, so consider the minimum rent for one-bedrooms in this city to be $1500. The good news is that I'm sure it's even worse in SF. Since you're going to work in the Financial District I suggest living in Brooklyn or across the river in Jersey City, if you want to keep your commute as short as possible. Here are some options that are about 30 minutes or less from your work neighborhood:
More expensive neighborhoods: the neighborhoods around Downtown Brooklyn, Park Slope, Prospect Heights, Clinton Hill, Williamsburg, the eastern part of Jersey City.
Less expensive neighborhoods: Bushwick, Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights, the western part of Jersey City. These neighborhoods begin to be "unsafe" but Bushwick in particular is much more benign than people make it out to be. Generally, the closer you are to Brownsville in Brooklyn the worse the neighborhood gets.
Obviously this list grows with your tolerance for longer commutes.
>>1124532
Bushwick,Crown Heights and Bed-Stuy are no longer cheap neighborhoods. Hipsters have breached. When the Hasids start moving out of Crown Heights that should tell you something
>>1122487
>How are there even low income people in NYC? Like, obviously NYC has pizza delivery boys and shit
several possibilities
1 they own the homes that they inherited ; the mortgage is all paid out, or is very low b/c the place was bought when it was much cheaper. Note that property tax in NYC is almost nothing (there's 4% income tax instead) I know a lower middle class dude who lives in a $7mil mansion inherited from his parents.
2 some people live in low-income government housing such as NYCHA (NYC housing authority). Generally the rent is a (small) percentage of your income, so the poor pay almost nothing.
3 a few poor people rent in private sector but get "section 8" vouchers ot pay some of the rent.
4 some people live in rent-controlled or rent-stabilized housing - privately owned, but the state severely limits rent increases when the lease is renewed. It's possible for someone to have rented the same place for 30 years and to pay 1/10 of current market rent.
people who move to NYC now are very unlikely to get any of these good deals.
