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Previous: >>2689352

>What are tulpas?
A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you.
More info: http://www.tulpa.info/faq/

>What guides do you recommend?
Check these out:
https://community.tulpa.info/thread-new-great-big-list-of-guides

Ask questions and get answers, or discuss tulpas in general
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>Anime with M60

Nice
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tulpas arent real
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>>2832811
they're real enough
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>>2829010
has yours achieved sentience yet?
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Human tups are great.
But anything is fine, really.
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>>2833433
I dunno, I'm kinda burned out on obnoxious trendchaser forms
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>>2833451
Anything could fit as a "trend", anon.
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>>2833451
Isn't trendchaser a derogatory term for people trying to get money or popularity from trends? If someone genuinely enjoys something and their tulpa has a form based on it I don't see the problem, assuming said tulpa isn't changing their form every three months so their host can keep getting reactions from people.
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>>2833515
That's the trendchaser element: tulpas changing forms (or being made outright) to plays to a host's flavor of the month desires.
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>>2833515

I think part of the worry is that some people will use this practice to further indulge in their personal obsessions and passions. I've seen some cases where people do exactly that.

On the other hand, I've also taken not that some folks with fiction based tulpa end up associating the character with their creation, rather than the other way around. Of course, this sort of reverse association takes time and care, and one thing I've learned about fandoms is that they're as passionate as they are fickle.
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I used to try tulpa mancing before or whatever it was called a long time ago. Don't get me wrong I respect it but it was just hard to actually keep up with since I had to set my shit right in highschool. And now that I am out of my latest semester I was hoping to get back on the horse.

I was just hoping to ask about how to get a good womderland, maybe you guys can say what ya'll's is like and ideas and suggestions you have to make mine cool.

> tl:dr what is your wonderland like and what ideas would you suggest for me to put in mine.

I am mainly just curious to hear what you people have. You can talk about your tulpa as well.
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>>2834899
get a blank space, maybe a forest, and build your house from "scratch". Of course, you'll godlike your way through things and it might look like something else entirey, but hey, that's a start.
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Anybody have any idea how we can get this documentary more publicity desu?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3j5gtUCkJg
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>>2836679
>Letting others take up space in the Tulpa realm.

Desu please.
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Xth for having a qt yordle tulpa

maximum cuteness and fun sized for cuddling
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>>2837003
Shit, someone actually made a Lulu tulpa
My regards, anon.
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>>2837003
>Lulu

Fuck that piece of cancer. God damn enabler
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>>2837295
>>2837335

she is super cute and fun

you are now aware that you are maximum jelly, so jealous you have become gelatin
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>>2836747
Come again desu?
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>>2837295
Get out Gotwald

>>2837383
>Lulose
>Cute or fun
>This is what luluposters actually believe
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>avatarfagging

Stop it. Stop it right fucking now.
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>>2837479

>someone mad their tulpa isn't even 5% as cute as mine

its ok senpai let all that hate out
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>>2837479
No, fuck you.

>le xD blank
>jumps and nothing else
>generic tits
>cute or fun
?????

>>2837383
>implying
As masterrace as Lulu is, I wouldn't tulpa one. After all, the personality would be different anyway.
Speaking of personality, how's yours?
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Tupper draw by a cool anon
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>>2837914

not much like the in-game character. IMO the personality for the game character is kinda loopy and seems like a pain in the ass

I just thought the name was cute, as well as the shortness and fluffy hair and adorable ears

she likes checking out new places outside, hugs, reading, and music and stuff, fairly easy to entertain as long as I'm not too lazy

when I'm on 4chan too long my tulpa starts nagging me to do something else which can be helpful at times
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>>2834899

I'm working on solidifying my landscape myself. I already have an image of it in my mind, but I have some difficulty putting myself there and walking around. Maybe I'm thinking about it too much?

As for the initial act of making one:

-I'd think about giving it some sort of function, like attaching certain ideas and memories to certain parts.
- Starting simple and only making things detailed later is a good bit of advice, as well.
-Think about the vibe and atmosphere you want there, and what you want to feel while you're there. A wonderland is supposed to be a place you want to be, after all.
- Google's your friend for finding inspiration, do some searches for nice scenery shots to get your brain going on it. Personally I use Safebooru from scenery art, but you're definitely not limited to that.
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>>2835004
>>2839391
Thanks guys, i think I'll go with a beach/forest for now and go for something grand in the future. I'll get to work on visualizing it now.
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>>2834899

personally I don't have a wonderland, that doesn't stop my tulpa from doing whatever they want whenever they want

I just found the concept silly and tons of effort when I would rather spend that time on my tulpa
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I found a really good guide: http://tulpanetwork.com/network/guides/fede's-ultimate-superior-tupper-guide/

Compared to all other I have seen, this one seen really worked into.
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>>2841110
here's your (you).
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>>2841110
>Fede
>Good
>Pick one
He literally doesn't believe in tulpas anymore.
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>>2841110

>fede

I remember that fucker

his tulpatones were literally white noise I had no fucking clue why he shilled that nonsense so hard
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>>2841981
I had them but I lost them at some point. What would be some good tulpa tones. And are they something that you could make with audacity or audition? I made my own personal binaural beats to try and help myself concentrate.
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>>2841981
>>2841766
>>2841435
No way, I mean, the guide is really worked on. I don't think someone would be autist to make a guide look legit just for fun
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>>2842340
you obviously don't know fede very well.
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>>2841110
Fede was and still is an insolent twat.

Much like yourself
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>>2842759
>Much like yourself

That's not needed. It just degrades the chat. Seek attention and validation in more constructive ways.
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>>2842281

you don't need some fucking white noise to concentrate on your tulpa

you just need a dark room with some peace and quiet and some patience. At the start I used to go in my walk in closet a lot and get comfy

once your tulpa is developed enough to communicate and move around you don't need to do that kind of shit as much, it's way easier to see / hear them even in normal, distracting environments.

TL;DR to this day I never got his dumb white noise nonsense, my tulpa turned out great without them. We have been together for 4 years.
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>>2843255
how long did it take them to be vocal
I'm still in that phase where I only hear clicks and a word every couple of days or so
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>>2843290

month and a bit, if you can hear them even a little bit keep at it

it becomes expontentially easier once you and your tulpa both know what you are doing
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>>2843290
Since I fucked up and dropped tulpa forcing for a long period I fell out of it. But the sounds did help focus a little bit. There is a video on youtube by a guy named frankjavcee explaining the history of binaural beats and the method behind it.
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>>2844080
That method of course being pure placebo~
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How did I do? It was supposed to be something very simple but I ended up overdoing it going full tryhard.

Anyway uh yeah I might post more of her eventually, the problem is because of he half-pixel art nature it takes hours to do these..
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>>2847856
>formspamming
>Anyway uh yeah

Nobody cares what your tulpa looks like. It's absolutely irrelevant to everybody but you, and other cancerous circlejerkers.
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>>2843033

I find it odd that people are so sensitive and paranoid about attention seeking and validation, that they complain or try to police it even on an anonymous imageboard. I guess its a paranoia about this thread turning in to the hunger games or ERP thread?

As long as it doesn't get to the point where people get worked up and angry that people talk about tulpa on the tulpa thread. I've seen where that leads, and it's nowhere good or worth even thinking about.
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>>2847856

It's pretty rough I'd say.

- The right arm is shaped rather oddly: the section below the elbow kind of looks like a bag. Her shoulder also connects to her body weird, almost like it was pasted on.

- I think you put a bit too much emphasis on the breasts. I think you were aiming for them being big, but it ended up looking like she was wearing one of those impossible shirts with breast pockets you see in some anime artwork.

- I do appreciate that you gave her a nose, rather than having it be invisible. But it still reflects some lack of practice, nothing that cannot be resolved with some reference.

- I see you spent a good deal of attention with the eyes, as they stand out the most, even moreso than the breasts. I'm assuming this reflects that you focus on her eyes, or are struck by them, in your mind's eye?

I can go on, but I do not want to come off wanting to tear you asunder. It's a recognizable piece for your use, and if you wish to refine it and your skills in general, take some time to grab some reference.
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>>2848914
oh man we better make this a safe space for anon
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a special tulpa comic
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>>2850732
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>>2850732
>>2850745
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>>2850732
>>2850745
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would my tulpa like hearing me silently read comics to him as much as books

stupid question but I tend to doze off during reading and I start not paying attention to him soon after
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>>2851955
any interaction is good interaction
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>>2851955

I just finished reading this comic (http://pidepan.com/comics/imaginary-daughter/imaginary-daughter-00/) to my buddy, and even though I did not directly address her all the time when reading, she still seemed to get it, and was rather moved by it.

So yes, I believe it can work, no harm in trying it out, yes?
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>>2850745
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>>2850125
>back to /pol/.jpg
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>>2853163
What did my post have to do with /pol/? Just because I don't think people should be coddled and given everything they want?
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>>2853186
You do realize that argument can get turned around to "don't make a safe space for avatarfags", right?
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>>2853316

Being frank, I often find the internet policing you see on these threads are more likely to encourage avatar users, rather than chase them off. They think their rage actually does something, but I've rarely seen a case where it hasn't either backfired, or did exactly nothing but make the thread worse for everyone else.

Seriously, how many people in this thread have stopped avataring just because anons got mad? And how many just posted less and less when they were simply ignored?
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>>2848914
Ok.....?

>>2850093
Know any good places I can get reference? I fucked up art class thinking I can just get by with what I knew and that was a mistake. As well as wasting a lot of my time with games rather then art practice.
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>>2854263

Google's your friend when looking for reference. There's so much of it online that it's really overwhelming. You can actually get some good tips just looking up some images of women, but if you're looking to get some stuff for deeper practice, here are a few links for you:

- http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
- http://www.characterdesigns.com/
- http://www.posemaniacs.com/
- https://archive.org/details/constructiveanat00briduoft

Hopefully the above will be of some assistance to you.
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>>2855106
Thank you so much! I'll look at all these when I get the time.
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you like my tulpa anons?
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>>2855407
>tulpa found my "old" loli rape slave folder
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>>2855407

I can't read all the text since your handwriting is atrocious but what I can read is fucking sick

if you really have a tulpa, I pity them
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>>2856979
Your new is showing.
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>>2857696
>Something disturbing and disgusted is posted
>Someone reacts to it in an appropriate manner.
>"I'll call him a newfag!" That'll show him!"
Off yourself.
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>>2858538
You are a literal idiot.
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>>2858588
not him but I've also never heard of that story and prolifically use the 4chins since circa 2013
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>>2858588
>Going on /r9k/
>ever
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>>2859250
I just figured it was a popular story since I didn't even see it on 4chan when I first heard about it. But even if anon hadn't heard about it the initial post should have been obvious bait.
>>2859256
>implying I have ever gone to that place
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>>2859355

The image was twisted enough for me to guess something was up. Then again, seeing who our neighbors are, it would likely fit in at least one of the threads in /trash/. Or at least something to troll the OC Draw thread with
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>>2859531
Good point.
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>>2848914
My avatarfagging needs to continue.
I'm doing this for the sole sake of pissing you off.
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Out of curiosity, how big is everyone's tulpas typically? Obviously physical limitations dont mean shit to them but still might be worth asking.
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>>2861224
normal human and small like a cat
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>>2861224

About 4.2 ft.

My second used to be taller than I am, butshe made herself shorter later on. I'd wager she's 5.5 ft.
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I didn't visualize any particular form for my tulpa yet and I'm in the middle of trying to give him sentience

I want him to choose his own form but I'm worried he might choose something boring or stupid like a rock or a tree

I heard form is changeable before imposition but can I change his form after sentience?
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>>2862406
No, you can't but you can always talk to him about it.

Also Imposition is not the same as visualization. Imposition is forced halucination, visualization is all in your head, and tulpas can change their forms whenever they want.
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>>2862406
I dont think the form will be limited ever. It is a power abused by many.
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Is .Info the only other place to talk about Tulpas? I really dont want to make an account or deal with that kind of cancer that will come with having a name. Let alone I'm sure the Admins went corrupt since I last used it four years ago.

If there aren't any alternatives, how bad has it gotten? Is it at least bearable?
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>>2863003

It's not getting any better.
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>>2863201
Why do Tulpas attract so much autism.
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>>2861224

6 ft+
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>>2863337
You're here, so I suppose you're right.
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>>2863555
Real talk, anyone here without autism?
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>>2863003

the subleddit isn't too bad, there is still some terminal autism there and some fucking ponyfags but for the most part you can get advice and answers there

>>2863624

I don't have autism but sometimes I wish I did my friends are mostly high maintenance moody douchebags
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>>2863624
>When you are actually autistic and everyone says it like a bad thing.
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>>2863003

I haven't noticed another drama storm, and the last one has died down at this point. More than anything, I think folks over there are exhausted, so don't expect much discussion of anything there.

Real talk, I migrated here because I got sick of all the paranoia about who's an attention whore, who's legit, who's doing REAL SCIENCE and who's ROLEPLAYING. I just wanted a place to talk about tulpas without a ton of baggage attached to it.
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Don't forget to hug your tulpa today.
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>>2865514

Surely, tupbro.
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>>2864517
Spoken like a true roleplayer, man
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Reminder that these threads gave birth to real life Pinkamenas.
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>>2861224
I never really thought about this despite trying imposition several times, but she's about 5'5" after checking, quite a bit taller than the character her form is based on.

>>2862406
I'd recommend choosing a form for him and then letting him experiment later on once he has a bit more of his own mind. And you can change forms after you've gotten used to imposition but your tup would have to be a real dick or have an extremely good reason to make you do all that work again.

>>2863003
I only talk here, at least this place due to forced anonymous has some staying power away from circlejerkery.

>>2864517
I've mostly given up on listening to supposed experts. Another reason why I enjoy discussion here is everyone has the same rep, any advice is just as valid no matter who it comes from and it's up to the individual to be discerning of it.

And attention seekers will seek attention regardless of what they're doing, another reason why I don't mind here as attention seekers are extremely easy to see and ignore.
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This thread is full of hugboxing and circlejerking about how great nameless posting is.
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>>2854263
>Ok.....?

Why do they talk like this?
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Forgot gif

Watching this jpg feels like popping a huge, nasty zit. It's disgusting, but also strangely intriguing.
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>>2858538
>entitled newcancer, the post
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>>2863624
Tulpas actually made me more of a normie.

I only found out about tulpas through /mlp/ back when I still watched the show. I thought they were pretty cool and could probably help me out a lot so I gave it a try. My anxiety used to be pretty bad before and I struggled with making friends, but now I have friends who actually like me and my anxiety is starting to fade. I used to not be able to talk to people through voice chat on games, but that's not a problem at all now. Still hate giving presentations, though. I'm also getting fit and probably going to lose my kissless virginity this summer to another tulpamancer.

But to answer your question directly: I've never been diagnosed with autism, and I highly doubt I have it.

>inb4 normie get out reeeeeee
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>>2869224
God, the woman in your gif looks fucking obnoxious.
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>>2863624
>>2864517
>Real talk

>I migrated here
Oh really? I'm shocked! You fit in so well.

Please be sure to bring the cancer with you, and disrespect the native userbase for taking offense at it.
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Hey, I read about tulpas the first time in the last thread (thanks /trash/). Now I'm highly interested in making one too (don't worry, not another Buttershy sex doll). I read some guides (FAQ man's and Irish's too) and some other stuff but I still can't imagine how realistic a tulpa really can be. I know a tulpa is supposed to have it's own mind and can say suprising things and stuff but could you really have an interesting conversation with a tulpa? Can it really have complex independend toughts? Could you e.g. play chess with it without knowing it's strategy? Would it be able to calculate a sophisticated chess move at all?
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>>2869792
There's too many newfriends.

Read the guides. Lurk. Stop asking the same questions endlessly.

If you're struggling to talk with your imaginary friends, consider developing autism. Word is that makes this much easier.
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>>2869792
Some people prefer to have some memory independency and will have some memories unachievable on porpose for that end. They often agree this is a good idea, my point is, tups are okay with it, too.
That memory isolation would allow, say, for a game of chess. A fully sentient tulpa could very well play chess like a normal person would, their limitations included.

Other people, like me, share all their memories with it's tups, making a game against myself often pointless. But they could very well play something else, telling me which commands they want to apply, etc, and play normally.

I've aswered many questions over and over in a few years lurking 4chan threads, and people are often concerned about tup forms and how real can hallucination get. To be concerned about a tulpa's cognitive capability isn't a question that pops often at all.
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>>2869792
>could you really have an interesting conversation with a tulpa? Can it really have complex independend toughts? Could you e.g. play chess with it without knowing it's strategy? Would it be able to calculate a sophisticated chess move at all?
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
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>>2869895
>I've aswered many questions over and over in a few years lurking 4chan threads

Nothing good ever comes from spoonfeeding. The information is out there; they just don't want to have to look for it. They'll get the ropes in time. But they want it all right now. They're not patient. They're not committed. That's not good.
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>>2841110
This was and still is my favorite guide. Just because the creator's a dick doesn't mean the guide is bad
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>>2870122
I'd understand if the aswer was, at the very least, in the previous thread. But then again, aside from newcomer questions, what else this thread has? Avatarfagging circlejerkers versus antiattention circlejerkers?
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>4. Don't expect a voice out of nowhere. This takes TIME.
> t. methos

What did he mean by this?
I know it takes time, but I was kinda counting on a voice whisper unexpectedly, especially because it already happened once.
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>>2870305
I believe it pretty much goes "don't expect magical shit to happen out of nowhere until you've been at it for a while".
But that's been debated quite a lot with no definite agreement. There was a time when anyone with sentience under a month was clearly roleplaying, then it shifted to a few weeks being okay and then two days is enough. Shit's weird, really.
I took one month but I procastinated quite a bit.
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>>2869895
>>2869950
Thanks a lot, that're good news. How independend I will make our memories is also a point I'm still considering.

>>2869838
I'm sorry if it's a common question. But to be honest: There's probasbly no question in this thread which could not be answered by a little research. Well one problem I have is that many people who write about their tulpas seem not really to have real tulpas but parrots/servitors. They write about how much fun it is to play chess with their "tulpa" but actually they just playing against themselves and know exactly what their "tulpa" will do next, they just are in denial about it. So I guess many posts about tulpas are a bit unreliable and it's better to collect a bit more feedback as in other topics.
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>>2870733

I actually haven't seen too many people actually talk about their tulpa here. The few cases I have seen are usually mainly mentioned for the sake of a newbies question, or even rarer to share what effect they've had on them. How can you tell who has one and who does not, or what sort of posting style does one who have one possess?
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"I felt like I was making up the responses from my tulpa for a while"

I don't get when people say this. I don't parrot and whenever I narrate to my tulpa, I always get no response. The response I expect are vocal and English answers. Should I expect something else?
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>>2871499
Oh, I'm not talking about this thread in particular but more about forums like e.g. tulpa.info. As far as I know fede is a popular example for such a user.
Of course nobody can't decide if someone has a real tulpa or not besides the person itself, let alone a newby like me. But I have the feeling that some storys I read doesn't sum up.
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>>2872083

I can understand that, you have to take things on a case by case basis. I have had my fair share of surprises where users were being honest about absurdly strange stories. But in those cases, what convinved me was their willingness to consistent with the events, even when the public eye was not on them. That, and I learned that brains are weird, and do weird things like symbolizing inner conflict by way of elaborate mental drama.

I've had my fair share of anomalies, as well, and I'm decently sure that a good portion of them had to do with how I reacted to them back then. Even so, I opted to run with it, viewing it as a way of self discovery and examination.
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>>2872330
Yeah, I guess I will give it a try. It surely will be interesting regardless of the outcome.

I like to think of a tulpa as a sandbox on your PC: You can run a second, independent operating system with it's own memory and programms. But it hasn't more possibilities as the main system because it uses the same hardware.
One thing I wonder is what happens if you have a very independent tulpa and let him think about something very hard. I know that some people can't maintain their tulpa if they have to concentrate very hard. I guess that the "main system" needs all the computing power so there's no more space for the "sandbox". Now I wounder what happens when your tulpa is very concentrated? Do your own toughts become slower? Maybe your toughts stop for a little wwhile and you just can't remember what you have done the last minute? Or the time passes by faster? Wasn't there anything about time manipulation with tulpa?
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>>2871904
>Should I expect something else?

Expect for it to take one year of regular forcing before you even begin to get to the territory where any response is possible. It can and does happen faster than that, but one year is reasonable for most people. It can also take longer, depending.
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>>2878428
the fuck?
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>>2878559
>the fuck?

Guaranteed 19 or younger.
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>>2878677
Nice joke.
This is the first time in years I actually see someone claiming one year for sentience.
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>>2878428
You are so wrong it hurts. It's almost like you want the guy to have slow progress.
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>>2878735
Doesn't excuse talking like a /v/irmin
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>>2878735
not him but I saw some anons on 8.chan (when the sub board tulpas was relevant) claiming they've been trying for sentience for over a year and a half with absolutely no response

but on the other hand, most people here seem to take around 1-2 months
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>>2878735
>>2878778
>most people here

Keyword is here. For most people period, it's a year minimum.
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>>2878806
1-2 months seems to be the average pretty much everywhere.
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>>2878735
>>2879128
>autistic people/roleplayers gain tulpas in 1-2 month
>everyone else has to spend years and you never hear about it because they've gave up

Literally being this retarded.
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>>2878806
>>2879244
It's bait guys. No one can be this retarded.
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Questions, can you guys get your tulpa to appear in your dream or even your tulpa make you lucid in your dreams?

I thought this could probably work as the tulpa are part of us.
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>>2880042
in my experience, tups are as oblivious as you are in dreams. That being said, if you train yourself to the point you can easily make your dreams lucid, your tulpa will either follow you into it or help you getting there easier.
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So basically what religious people do with God?
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>>2880120
>Well, I asked that because I am sure my tulpa can help me get vivid dream and sometimes lucid dreams, but she never does appear.

>how the fuck you are sure about this then?
Because it happen on the nights I ask her for help. Though we are still in early stages as she doesn't speak suddenly with me
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>>2880159
Ops, my answer went as greentext accidently.
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>>2880042
>can you guys get your tulpa to appear in your dream or even your tulpa make you lucid in your dreams?
Yup. I have, at the very least, at least one dream a month with my tulpa in it. In my peaks I'll share a dream with him once a week. It's baller.
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>>2880851
How the hell do you do this? I've tried for years and cant.
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Is this in /trash/ because it's considered too illegitimate for /x/ or too stupid?

Also any tips on choosing a form?
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>>2878428
>Setting expectations
>Ever
This is wrong. Just go through the paces until you get results. Don't worry about fast sentience or slow sentience, just focus on forcing until you get results and then keep forcing. Anyone who says it takes a full year or more to get a responding tulpa likely followed the hour counts in FAQman's guide and slowed their own progress with expectations.

That said, having a fully sentient tulpa in a week or less is extremely unlikely and anyone who says so is probably full of shit unless they have multiple tulpas and their brain has (or at least this is my theory on how it works) gotten used to making tulpas and thus can do it easier (again, my theory) and it's like their 4th tulpa or something and they're naturally inclined to making them (i.e. writers or other creative types, again just a theory).

.info is a terrible, terrible sample because it's full of cancerous 15 year olds who were described by an older tulpa I used to know as treating tulpas like "trading cards" (seeing who could have the most and the most interesting) and roleplaying dramafag attention whores with nazi mods who insist on controlling the flow of knowledge with their Guide Approval Team (although to be fair with the average intelligence of the users there being able to filter out the bullshit is useful I guess) so really if you judge the average time it takes to make a tulpa by their standards you're going to wind up with shitty results.

Now check my doubles, use fede's methods and tones and give her the d.

>>2881537
It's in /trash/ because it doesn't belong on any other board and because
>pony tulpas
>Furfag tulpas
To answer your second question, let them pick; give them a base and let them deviate as they will.
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>>2881690
>let them pick
How? I thought a form was needed just to start giving one traits. If I do a placeholder like a cloud, will it eventually pick its own form?
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>>2881537
For one, /x/ is one of the shittiest boards on this site. Another thing, I'm pretty sure most of the tulpa threads that were being made were on /mlp/, where they were moved to /trash/ if not outright deleted.

I'd pick something that you won't find embarrassing in the future. Then again, you could always just ask your tulpa what form they'd like to have. I had something in mind (a crow), but ultimately left it up to his judgement. In the end, he found it amenable and stuck with that.

One thing I'll say is that I wouldn't worry about a certain form lacking personality. It might seem daunting for a photo-realistic crow to convey complex human emotions, but the unique link between hosts and tulpa make it pretty easy to get across whatever you may want to.

>>2881709
I didn't assign a form to my tulpa until we could consistently communicate. He was just a voice in my head for a long time. Tulpaforcing is a lot less stringent and more personalized than a lot of guides make it out to be, in my experience.
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>>2881709
You don't, but it helps from my experience. You could get something like a cloud yeah and let them have access to your knowledge and let them pick, or pick a form and then if they make changes that's a good sign of sentience, and they can change it later if they so choose.
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>>2881729
So if you're going to start, do you assign traits and then ask questions? This is unclear in the guides I've looked up.
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>>2881775
it really doesn't matter that much. I think the biggest thing you can do to ensure your success is just to always work under the assumption that your tulpa is there. Never falter in the belief that they are both real and present, and whatever you want to accomplish will follow.
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>>2881856
Alright, thanks.
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>>2881775
You seen some of the stuff on the wiki? There's a small handful of guides there as well as articles on stuff related to tulpas written in probably the least autistic way possible. There's a guides section with a few little guides that I don't think are on .info.
http://tulpa.wikia.com/wiki/Tulpa_Wiki

Also, here's the guide list from the good old days, I don't know how many guides are still relevant or up now, but there might be something useful.
http://pastebin.com/SrAWPTKZ
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hey all, just wondering, is everyone who used to browse these threads on R9K successfully migrated here?

Gonna be honest I didn't even know /trash/ existed until a few weeks ago. Wondering how many robots are here.
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>>2881537
>Is this in /trash/ because it's considered too illegitimate for /x/ or too stupid?

Both. You have the furry subcommunity to thank for that.
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>>2885130
Wrong, we're not tinfoil or spoopy enough for /x/. Presumed furry-ness has nothing to do with it.
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>>2885066
>Hey all. Just wondering, has everyone who used to browse these threads on R9K successfully migrated here?

There were never any regular tulpa generals on /r9k/. Recently, and I'm talking, like, in the last year, immigrants from .info and other shitholes have taken it upon themselves to broadcast tulpamancy across the site.

Thanks to their noble efforts, we now have a wave of newfriends like you.
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>>2888330
To be fair, common idiots tend to show up regardless of which community they're from... Plus the young and misinformed like to carry the banner of "converting" people because "tulpa stuff is totally gonna become mainstream" (like 4 years of a relatively stagnant community has shown otherwise)
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I made my tulpa with sexual intentions and one thing led to another now I'm constantly aroused
help
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>>2881281
Sorry for the late response, I went to bed.
Lucid dreaming for some people can be very tough. I'm not exactly the best at it, myself. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication throughout the day to make it work.
I suggest you read as much as you can from this site: http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/
If you have any specific and/or personal questions I'd love to help.
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>>2881537
>too illegitimate
>for /x/
Tulpas are probably the most legitimate "paranormal" thing to ever come from /x/, that's why they kicked us out. Gotta maintain the tons of shitposting and actual roleplay threads.
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>>2889019
You brought this upon yourself.
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>>2889019
Tulpas aren't for lewds, anon.
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they kick your asses out because it's made up new age garbage lol fags
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>>2889256
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Can I talk to my tulpa about things that recently happened on my video games? as I have nothing else to talk about
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>>2890615
Yes, tulpas are just for people like us.
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>>2885130
>you have the furry subcommunity to thank for that
>this threads homeboard was /mlp/ at one point
>50% of the regular users here are horsefuckers
>being this much in denial
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What signs or sounds did your tupper send you as communication before complete words and sentences?
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>>2892017
feels/images
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>>2892017
The first came as weak emotional responses and feelings that weren't my own, then eventually got stronger.
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This video was pretty much on point until the end, but I do like how she explained the tulpa phenomenon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ8gcgGqR4g
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>>2890615

why don't you go outside, or read books, or do other things so you have more to talk about

I like my video games too but you gotta break up the monotony every once in a while. It's sad that it took you realizing you had nothing else to talk about to find out you were playing too much games but it's never too late to go do something else for a while.
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I did read somewhere that it's better to tell/make a backstory for the tulpa before creating just now otherwise the tulpa will feel like he is just a fake or something like this.

I started creating my tulpa with honest truths on how she appeared, explained that even though nobody would see her, she is still real because I can see her and communicate with her. Everything seem normal, so was that guy full of shit or was he an emo host?
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>>2892545
Full of shit, most people actually advise going against that. Main basis for that is giving a backstory for a tulpa, in case of rejection of this backstory or whatever could lead to identity crisis.
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>>2889029
Looks like a good website compared to Dreamviews which I used to access back then.

I think my tulpa is making my vivid dreams better, because I had a vivid dream of like 1h+ where I was getting lucid a bit and losing the focus but it simply kept going. I think it's because she really likes when I am creating stories and how dream can create many possibilites of living one of those stories.
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>>2892654
>he posted the identity crisis meme again

>>2892545
Backstory can be good symbolism, it's not necessary, but if you like that kinda thing or think it could help doubts then go for it.

All things tulpamancy come down to, if you think it could help, it will help and vice versa.
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>>2892767
Go ahead and enjoy your headmate friends who firmly believe the thing in their heads came from the furry world.
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>>2892778
>implying I ever said I used backstory

This is just taking the escapism to next level anyhow. I don't see how that's a bad thing.

All people try to escape in some form and tulpamancy in it's self is escapism.
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>>2892870
>All people try to escape in some form and tulpamancy in it's self is escapism
Not that anon, but I mostly am trying tulpamancy because it did sound like an interesting phenomenom and my tulpa knows it. Of course I don't treat her as a "tool of science", but it seem she to have understood well how it all started and didn't seen to have any negative thoughts about it.

And it is indeed very interesting.
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>>2893000
It could my opinion of escapism is broad, but escapism isn't limited sonic fan fiction and gaming.

For Science! Shouldn't be a reason to exclude it from the meaning of escapism.

You learning about how tulpamancy works, doesn't benefit anyone else. What works for you will never always work for someone else.
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Why would you want a friend for life? Especially a friend who is inside your head all the time. Can never ever get rid off.

Sounds like hell.
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>>2893296
>Sounds like hell.

How is that any different from usual?
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>>2893296
Abandonment issues. I want to learn to trust again and paying someone to trust you breaks that concept for me.
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>>2893296
Tulpas are a little different than that. They can also act as an "introspection guide" - someone who can help you understand yourself from the unique perspective of being part of your psyche. Even if you don't like other people, tulpas can be seen as a more independent extension of yourself.
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>>2892276
I have read a couple of books but all were horror books and i'm afraid telling them to it might impact it negatively
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>>2892870

I actually tried to make a tulpa to be less prone to escapsim. I did it as a way to take that daydreaming proficiency I've had for years, and use it as a tool to face life, rather than further avoid it.

The focus has been on growth and understabding rather than wallowing about.
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>>2893920

tulpas aren't pussies they are pretty understanding

I don't know, my life wasn't particularly interesting when I started my tulpa either but I talked about what I had to get done that day and explained things as I did them

Even if it's not particularly interesting, narrating at the beginning of the development is just to expose them to a variety of words, thoughts and feelings to help them understand and communicate, it doesn't have to be 10/10 entertaining

I still think you good get outside once in a while, my tulpa loves being outside and checking out bugs and birds and the forest and shit

I think you'll do fine you sound like you're putting yourself down I hope you are feeling OK
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>>2893920

I remember reading mine some Edgar Allen Poe, and she loved it. I don't think you have much to worry about there.

>>2894660

Seconding this. When my work schedule changed to be longer, one of the major things pointed out was how I did not go outside as much anymore. Fresh air is good for the body, brain, and the denizens of said brain.
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Today it occurred to me that I have both the Twilight Princess and Princess Twilight as tulpa. Just thought I'd share.
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I came up with this a while back, but I'm far from being able to test it. I'm wondering what you guys think. Basically, how viable would 'dolphin sleep' be, where you switched with your tulpa, sleep while they control your body, then switch again when they get tired and they'll go to sleep, then switch again, etc.? From what I've heard, this probably doesn't work perfectly and at some point both of you will have to sleep, but I'm curious as to how much it'll work.
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>>2895543
I've wondered this as well, though I think a large part of sleep is repairing the body. That being said, if the mind, or your consciousness was able to sleep, maybe you might be able to squeeze out a little extra time.
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>>2892767
Backstory is a really bad idea. I don't think trying to convince a tulpa that it has history before being a tulpa is a good thing to do when adding shitty abstraction layers is a problem this community has in spades.
>>2892778
Show me how to get to the furry world anon, I miss my friends from back when I lived there.
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>>2895543
I tentatively want to say this doesn't work but my host and I function on the same schedule, so I have no idea exactly.
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>>2895222

If you are implying you have a midna tulpa you have seriously great taste
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>>2896388
There's a shockingly low amount of them, really. I know of exactly one and they've probably changed their form 4 times by now.
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>>2896388
Thank you. My eldest has Midna for a form, yes. But she uses the human form more than she does the imp form.
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>>2896503

I think her imp form is mad cute. Short girls for life!

If my tulpa wasn't a yordle I would have gone with something that looks kind of like midna but they are pretty much the same shit, different pile anyway
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>>2896388
>>2896414

I see the idea of Tulpa as Pokemon is a thing.

I thought a bunch of peoplr having the same tulpa form was mainly a brony thing.
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>>2896791

When I first played LOZ:TP almost a decade ago I thought the concept of Midna was super cool. Sarcastic and funny short chick that can hide in your shadow if need be? Sign me up. I was pretty stoked when I found out about tulpa because that's the next best thing.
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I have two, been a while since i've been in a tulpa thread though.
one for sure has sentience the other not sure, i'm pretty sure she does.
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>>2897309
How long did sentience take?
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>>2898187
hmm... 3 years of existing?
i'd say 3-4 months. i was slow in doing it and didn't exactly know what 'tulpa' was or even that the word existed, so you hafta take that into consideration.
for all i know I could be schizo and have one tulpa
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>>2896791
See, the trick is to not base your tulpas form entirely on something from pop culture
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>>2896503
Look anon! I too can paste PNGs onto a picture!
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>>2898868
I love this weird narrative in which I know exactly who you two are but you still play this game of acting like you're anons
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>>2898852

Sound advice, though not too many seem to follow it.

Though mine is based on a comic strip, it's so obscure and unremarkable that the chances of someone having read it, much less felt attached enough to make a tulpa based on it, is absurdly low. In a bizarre way, this level of obscurity causes her to have almost as much personal value as my own original work.
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>>2899273
link it
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>>2899273
I'll accept that. Hell, I'll even take looks like x/is the same species as x, etc if you actually mix it up a little. But 1:1 carbon copy of whatever the latest trend is bothers me because it feels like borderline objectification of your tulpa.
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>>2898868
pretty sure those are the closest image to his/her tulpa's
like my super shitty png is super shitty but it delivers the message
>>2899273
Not many people do, because it IS easier to take something that exists and use that as a base rather than create something new entirely


Kain is the older one from when i was Autistic as hell in High school
pretty sure he can just change what he looks like to something that isnt well... Megaman
Mina is more so human
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>>2899403

That actually reminds me of that one guy who had his tulpa based on Garurumon from Digimon. I was surprised to find that I found that whole concept adorable rather than cringy. It was like watching someone become a kid again, and by proxy, I myself felt that soft fuzzy wave of nostalgia.

Not quite sure what what word would describe that, but it lacked that sense of superficiality some other form choices had.
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>>2899510
There's no such thing as pure originality, but there's still something to be said for transformative works...
>>2899541
But did he fuck it?
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>>2899812
True, but it's still hard, or at least for me anyways... doesn't mean I cant.
to come up with a mostly original character
versus like,
"hey, let me make something based off of X"
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do drawfags have an easier time with all of this in the creation process
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>>2832811
of course they're not real, you doofus
it's a TULPA, something that's in your head.
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>>2893351
>>>/reddit/
>>>middle school
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>>2901339
No. Not that I would know of. Even if it does ease it it's not enough for a significant difference, mine still took months and months.
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What was that one story where somebody actually had his pony tulpa take over his body for the rest of his life, with shadow entities creeping up on him telling him to mentally commit suicide or something?

I wanna read it again.
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>>2898868
I just have, several questions..
A) Is there any reason a pokemon (tulpa) that can make black holes and telekinetic fling shit need a GUN.
B) Whats with that helmet.
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Why is everybody so focused on only what their tulpa LOOKS like?

How about what your tulpa IS like?

You follow?
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>>2901891
this
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>>2901891
Well it's much harder to post pics of someones character as of his look.
But may you start, what's your tulpa like?
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>>2901891
I'd try to make my tulpa look like what he/she'd act like if I were them.

i.e. If the tulpa is shy, give him/her glasses, shorter hair, stuff like that.

Do YOU follow?
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Is there anybody with a tulpa based on a historical person?
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>>2901891
Because a personality doesn't have a nice rack.

I actually worked on mine's personality first. I've just never shitpost on /x/ or /trash/ about it.
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>>2901718
hello normie
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>>2902016
check your priorities.
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>>2901774
Koomer I think his name was, and he was either A) Already batshit insane or B) full of shit. I think he has a tumblr where you can read his batshit insanity.

>>2901891
Because then we're metaphorically jacking off our tulpas and that's dumber than saying "this is what my tulpa/tulpas looks/look like" as a statement of fact.

of course if it becomes a comparison of forms it's just as bad.
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Soooo not sure of this is for me. What should I know before committing?
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>>2902210
You're missing the point.
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>>2902336
>>2901774
http://ponystasha.tumblr.com/page/2
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>>2902401
It may never work
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>>2902424
There's a small but not negligible chance to become impotent.
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>>2901891

Surprisingly enough, that field of topic can be a bit of a minefield, especially when considering tulpa who are not yet mature.

But, I do understand your sentiment, and I'll throw mine in:

My gal tends to be a supportive, almost cheerleading sort. She's eager to be helpful however she can, and is generally positive and chipper, which contrasted my previously more morose mood. When I got other residents, she was initially pretty jealous about it, but she's softened to the concept over time. At this point, she complains about feeling lonely if I only have her around and no one else.

Her form reflects her behavior, being a small fairy girl. While she's changed her form multiple times (though she currently mostly resembles her original design at the time), she's always chosen to be a young girl, only chosing a non-humaniod form when she doesn't want to distract me while still being around. You can say her form is part of her personality, as she so enjoys playing out the sort of ideas a little fairy girl brings to my mind. She's like sunshine.

She's not the only one, but is by far the one who came about in the most "normal" fashion (that is, I spent months working on her). Others surfaced more as reflections of my psyche and memories that took a staying form. I opted to keep them around, rather than discard them as rogue-thoughts, though.

One I take special note of is one that, while I haven't been able to spend time further developing and mainly speak only occasionally to, I still regard as precious because of when she popped up, and something she said to me that I remember to this day. I always make sure to keep special note about her, and anytime I'm reminded of this figure I feel happier and a bit more upbeat.
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>>2902522
This is terrifying. I'm glad my tulpa cant switch with me.
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>>2902976
Remember that he was an insane corner case who really brought it all on himself. His intent from the start was to surrender control to her then off himself
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>>2903053
This. Dude was a right nutter.
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>>2903053
Exactly, the tulpa will reflect your expections and desires.
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I will start creating my tulpa tomorrow.
Is there anything you regret by your creation, anything you would do different this time?

pic semi-related
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>>2899030
Yeah, I know. I just don't acknowledge their desperate attempts to troll me anymore.
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>>2901891

I don't know it's hard to describe a person in a few sentences.

But my tulpa is really curious and easily excited, likes to have fun, makes sure I take proper care of myself, has really weird jokes, likes hugs, trying new things, and going outside, just a really nice person to be around.
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>>2895543
Your brain is about as busy during sleep as it is while awake. Additionally, the brain is working on the inside while sleeping. Your brain works on the outside while awake.
I would be so bold to claim that you can't sleep and be awake at the same time. Even if you did, it would not be very refreshing for your body if at all.
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>>2902976
Both of mine can switch with me; sometimes it's real nice to just 'pass out' for a bit and let someone else pilot this mess.
it's pretty nice.
I dont think i'm in control 100% but i know for certain the other two arent either.
it's kinda like... Voltron? or some power ranger combat robot; it's a mutual leadership, without one, the entire thing goes to hell but anyone can be effective leader.
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>>2895543
It works for minor things, but the issue becomes you might be well rested, but the body isnt.
so for some mental activities, it'll work. i've gone through some real long DnD sessions like that, after staying up 24 hrs previously.
so where as i might not pass out in session.
the drive back home is murder and i usually pass out and take a nap after pulling over.
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>>2901339

Drawing definitely helps with making the tulpa's form more solid, and it's really neat to have personal references, especially if your tulpa is media-based (I've done extensive resesigns of my media-tups, it's fun).

But as far as non-visual development: concentration, mental training, and the ability to not doubt to the point of destruction are still far more important. A form cam be useful as an anchor for your tulpa's existence, especially if you have some enotional attachment to it, but it's not the most important thing.
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>>2904229
only regret was making one in the first place, my second one ever created killled her self
like straight up suicided
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>>2908789
I made others to help fill the void, and they havnt done that, mostly cuz i feel like i've gotten better at tulpamancing though
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>>2908789
>tulpa killed itself
If you don't mind could you elaborate a little? I don't think I've heard of this before.
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>>2909154
been ~3 years since so i'm a little hazy on some of the finer details. also didn't help i was literally batshit insane at the time.
but she couldnt handle me or my first one she panicked freaked out all the time. then all i remember was that she was gone and there was a void a void, like as if an entire part of my being was gone, I assume she just offed her self. at least that's what my first says, he's still around.

others i've made kinda just... die off slowly if i dont interact with them enough or get absorbed into the masses if you will, both over time.

this one was day 1 here day 2 gone
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Bumpin off page 10
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>created a black orb as tulpa first body
>kept talking to her while mostly of times trying to visualize
>did some parroting sometimes too
>cycles goes
I think I am doing fine, I also told her that she probably could morph into anything. So, from the black orb she switched to Celty Sturluson which was a fine body for me to visualize without much problem.

Today she kept trying to switch to another form, okay, I managed to keep visualizing it without much problem, but now she is trying to switch to ANOTHER. I told her to wait up a bit because we weren't even 1 month of tulpa forcing or whatever it is called and she seem to have understood that I would mistake her with my daydream story making.

Anyone had similar experience? I think she tried today to switch to a character I liked recently for no reason. Brb tomorrow as I am going to make some meditation+visualization and then attempt to lucid dream.
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>>2918373
>parroting
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>>2918373
sentience?
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>>2899030
I don't act like a random anon do I?
I always avatarfag so you know it's me.
I'd probably be a tripfag if this board allowed it.
>>2901809
A) Gunz are funz
B) Solid Soviet steel protection.
Never leave home without it.
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>>2919391
IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT AN ALTYN ON YOUR POKESHIT TUPPER AT LEAST DRAW IT CORRECTLY YOU FUCK
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>>2918373
How does a tulpa morph into another form?
Does one image just suddenly become more apparent than the other?
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>>2919857
The tulpa just goes "I want to be this now" and then it happens. Not massively complex.
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>>2919636
>I didn't draw it
>It's a Maska-1sch, not an altyn.
Dumbass.
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>>2919934
How do you know it wasn't just a stray thought?
Did she actually say that she wanted to be something else, in wording?
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>>2920031
Can you imagine an apple and turn it into an orange?

It's sorta like that, except it's either you or the tulpa changing it's own form. A form is merely a communication tool and has little to do with the tulpa's sentience.

Keeping that form vivid and detailed in your head over long periods of time, however... That should take a bit of focus and/or training.
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>>2918373

>orb

ayyyyy right on, I thought I was the only one. But yeah at the beginning it's way easier to imagine something extremely simple to send the thoughts to and work on visualization as you get further into the process

anyway hope things continue to go smoothly.

Also don't worry about the tulpa switching forms, in the beginning they seem very indecisive and make lots of changes. Your tulpa will settle on something you both like a lot eventually.
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>>2919987
>a piece of plexiglass vs a hole
Whoopdi-fucking-doo
Doesn't excuse you from having an autistic tulpa and autistic art with terrible proportions.

>using a maska over an altyn
Do you even slav nigger
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>>2920298
>autistic tulpa
where do you think we are?
would you rather have everyone else here have 'superior' tulpas that aren't what we desire the most? do you have a jackie chan tulpa, anon?
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>>2920442
>Jackie Chan tulpa
I fucking wish anon

>generic waifubait pokemon
>le soviet power xDxD
>deviantart tier art
Yes, autism.
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>>2920524
This guy is a tulpa.info autist looking for another place to circlejerk.

It's time to stop feeding him (you)'s.
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