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Groove-y Edition!
CW Groove is supposedly getting a wider release online on May 24th if you haven't gotten yours yet.
Old thread:
>>5687297
So I got CW Deluxe Groove in the mail from Amazon last evening. Just opened him. Current thoughts:
>like the paint apps and light piping for once
>two guns!
>kickstand hides in his forearm, like this a lot for some reason
>the way the wheels swivel to the insides of his legs is neat
>hfg port looks thick enough, as opposed to blades's
>chest ratchet feels a lot smoother when moving it, but has a little give in each position
>legs wouldn't initially close up right (you know the weird way most CW legs collapse), there was some mold flash on one of the peg slots in the shin, had to exacto a little out
>legs feel like they tab together wayy too tight, but also easy to separate for some reason?
>front wheel assembly feels really dangerous to rotate (not backpack, but the front wheel and pistons attached to it), feels like something's gonna twist off like sprues on a plamo kit
>don't even know the purpose of that part being able to rotate
>bike mode looks kinda odd, like it's a bit too long or stretched out- but I'm not a bike expert
I wouldn't much worry- the previous CW exclusives got scalped but I can't tell you how many times I've seen loose Superions or Menasors in BSTs with those guys for really cheap prices for the set. Crap, someone had Menasor complete for $80 shipped last week.
>>5689352
I'm gonna get one at TFCon.
>>5689357
That's the weird thing isn't it? Hard to find the dude, but people will clear out the whole team.
>>5689352
No one's had the peg for the hand feet parts break?
>>5689363
Odder thing is that people are selling them. These are some of the best TF releases hands down in years.
>>5689359
CW Skylynx is really fun with Legends figures.
>>5689352
I got mine yesterday too. He's nice, but he's replacing rook in defensor if only because rook is more fun to mess around with. I agree with most of what you pointed out, with a couple other things
>He seems like the right size for 1/12th stuff. I have figma labris riding him now and the scale looks about right.
>His back tire is wide as fuck. He actually balanced perfectly without the kickstand the first time I put him down on the table.
>>5689383
The "seat" parts of mine's shins don't wanna tab into the pegs on the back of his body when in bike mode. Anyone else have that problem?
>>5689365
As in the port? I've only put the hfg in mine once so far, and I haven't used him on my Defensor yet. I'd hope it'd hold up a bit better, it's got thicker walls and stuff compared to the copter mold.
>>5689410
>The "seat" parts of mine's shins don't wanna tab into the pegs on the back of his body when in bike mode. Anyone else have that problem?
Yeah, that was a pain in the ass to tab together the first time I transformed him. I don't know what changed, but it hasn't been an issue since. Are you sure the back section with his legs is lining up properly?
>>5689374
some people just buy "flavor of the month" or impulse stuff, then need quick cash/empty shelf space to do it all over again a few months later.
>>5689380
I imagine he'd be really nice with WSTs
>>5689374
People are still in their "things where better 6 years ago" phase. In 5 years we'll see these lines the same way we do the 2010/RTS/Generations 1 lines now.
>>5689423
I think so. It's clipping in a little better now.
>>5689380
the only reason I haven't got Sky Lynx is due to 1.) him only just recently in the past few weeks being released at Canadian retail and 2.) wanting to see what Takara Sky Reign is all about.
>>5689428
That seems like a terrible waste of money.
>>5689437
>g1 sky reign.jpg
>>5689450
So are beer, weed and cigarettes by that logic.
At least the toys can be resold.
>>5689450
well wow, adults buying things marketed to kids can't handle money? How much shit is sold on BST so someone can pay rent because they blew it all on toys?
It's not even just toys, it seems to be childish things in general. Furries are really bad at this, they will pay $500 to get their "fursona" drawn having sex with cartoon characters, then they find themselves unable to buy food, pay rent or pay utilities and can't figure out why they are broke.
Video game collectors are even worse- they could emulate all those old games for free, yet they spend 80% of their income on trash and end up living in houses that look like shit.
>>5689464
Beer is a waste of money. Hard alcohol is much better for getting the job done (assuming you drink to get drunk). Weed is a waste if you buy it on a regular basis (eg more than once a week). Fuck buying cigarettes ever. Smoking hold absolutely no appeal to me.
Honestly out of all my habits, buying TFs is probably the least damaging.
>order PE hands and feet from TFsource on Saturday
>they still haven't even charged me
In stock and ready to ship my ass.
>>5689437
>mfw someone still has my shops.
>>5689352
/tfg/, I'm curious
Which Transformer can use the most weapons at once?
>>5689483
Something with lots of minicon ports (armada) or c-clips.
>>5689483
Six Gun
He is literally guns
>>5689483
Probably Lugnut or one of his contemporaries who also has C clips
>>5689487
12 different weapons. Plus a knife.
>>5689480
You're a gem.
>>5689483
Whatever has the most 5mm holes.
>>5689479
TFsource is very slow, that's a major factor why it usually sells out of hot product last because it's about on the same speed as a Chinese storefront.
I shop with them a lot but it's gifts for friends, family and my wife because fuck waiting 2 weeks on a US order for something I want.
You'll get an email tommrow that the label is made and by Wednesday it should officially ship.
If you are West Coast expect 3 to 5 days
East coast expect 5 to 8
never lived mid states so I can't tell you how slow they are there.
>>5689494
Even if you add in other weapons, he has two Mincon ports and two free hands for more guns.
>>5689494
Optimus Primal (first one) and the ROTF Ironhide remold with all the 3mm clip weapons probably win out.
Although Primus has a lot too.
>>5689494
AOE Hound and ROTF Recon Ironhide both have tons of weapons but idk if they can hold everything at once.
Generations Roadbuster has lots of weapons, too.
>>5689483
Armada Megatron might not be #1, but probably up there. He has 5 million Mini-con ports and can even wear Tidal Wave as extra armor. Total overkill.
>>5689429
Good idea, probably better than Legends considering how big Skylynx is supposed. Also, I really need to get Hailstorm.
If we count minicon ports, Unicron has to be the winner as you can put about a dozen on the ring.
>>5689510
*supposed to be.
>>5689519
>>5689519
The only CW Protectobot I still have right now is Rook.
>>5689527
This is the best one.
>>5689466
>mfw I collect games, Transformers (including 3P ones), and comics
>poor as shit because poorfag
>but is good enough at managing all of my bills are paid on time each month, never go hungry, and still get damn near everything I want
>never have to sell shit off
>only actual problem is shelf space because poorfag in tiny apartment and can't put up shelves due to rent agreement
>>5689521
>>5689528
To be clear, I meant >>5689527 was the best, not the one I posted myself.
>>5689483
Gen Roadbuster, not the best toy, but here hes holding all his arsenal at once and still have one empty hand and 3 free ports,1 on the right side of the chest and 1 on each shin.
>>5689528
I disagree
>>5689537
Whirl's got a ton too.
>>5689548
Yep, a gun, a t-shirt cannon, a missile rack and a camera.
>>5689495
Thanks for the info familia.
>>5689483
I could probably fit more on him but I don't want to take my Defensor apart right now just to put more shit on him.
Rook is truly one of the BEST fucking single figures since Gen Springer.
>>5689536
>windblade takes a piss while the other femmebots watch.jpg
>>5689537
road buster is the best when it comes to making some oc guns.
>>5689559
I'd say Hotspot deserves a spot like that too. He's so good.
>>5689574
Yeah, CW Hotspot is really nice since his ladder basically functions as a stand for him. Mark my words, CW is going to go down as one of the best lines in TF history. Just about everything in it is pretty good, even if you get mad at repaints.
>>5689556
Override's bust is too big!
>>5689559
Hes also the tiniest city/bunker.
![dev10[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PRqr2T0.jpg "dev10[1].jpg")
>>5689527
>>5689588
I really want to see a series of TF comics like this which is just everyone goofing around and having fun.
>>5689588
>thanks to this pic, I dug out Classics Hoist and Grapple
Hadn't transformed Grapple in years, holy cow what a fun transformation.
>>5689540
Best gif.
>>5689588
Long Haul looks like he's depressed.
>>5689537
Yeah, he aight. Woulda been better with wrist swivels, but I still like him.
>>5689602
He didn't join this outfit to be a dump truck.
>>5689586
Pretty sweet, gotta do that with mine now.
>>5689586
>Laying on your belly is a mode
>>5689615
Yes.
>>5689380
I've kept him combined so far. Despite the terrible ratchest (which I fixed), he's easily capable of pulling of posses the other combiner could only dream of.
>>5689529
Are you me?
You people have Sky Lynxes? Where did you get him?
>>5689780
I suspect a lot of people live like us poorfags.
>>5689529
>>5689791
If you can be a collector of multiple franchises, have all your bills paid, never be hungry, and pretty much get everything you want...then you're not a poorfag dude.
Your parents are probably upper class, and you're used to that kind of lifestyle, and anything different is considered poor to you.
>>5689787
store
>>5689787
eBay. $29.99.
>>5689822
What store? I'm striking out over here.
>>5689591
>Idw
Transformers is about the war between OPTIMUS PRIME snd Megatron, NOTHING ELSE.
>>5689814
I make $1200 a month, Pay 850 a month in rent, 65 on internet and phone together. I'm a poor fag. My cubard is basically oatmeal, cereals, ramen, and kraft mac and cheese. My fridge has hot dogs and buns and milk. Woo.
>>5689864
Not him, but poor is relative. There are people who have to go into debt just to put food on the table.
I'm in a similar boat to you, and I do call myself "poor" from time to time, but let's be honest, there are a lot of folks out there in utter poverty and we've lucky to not be down quite that low.
Anyone else imagine Groove to sound and act kinda like pic related?
>>5689814
No, I live on much less than this Anon >>5689864 per month.
I just happen to live in a part of the country where rent is dirt cheap on an apt because there is literally nothing around here. The only expensive thing is heating bills, and those drop to nothing come spring/summer/up until about mid fall.
Downside is there is literally nothing around except for maybe some hicks in the copious forests and mountains making meth and moonshine.
>>5689864
Where do you live where rent is that high, San Fran?
Oh shit it's the fuzz!
>>5689903
>850 is high
Where I used to live you couldn't find a diseased ridden shack in the worst ghetto that was only held up by all the termites and roaches holding hands, for less than $900/mo.
Shits retarded in some areas. Funny part is the area used to be poor as dirt, then all of these middle class/upper middle/rich sorts started moving in and suddenly everything built up and prices went through the roof for everything.
>>5689907
What, no Streetwise?
>>5689907
the whole scale thing with legends Groove was stupid anyway.
>"we don't want a motorcycle as big as a car or an ambulance, that's dumb
>says the company that has a helicopter in a bot with fighter jets and a combiner that has a copter, Jeep, tank and fighter jet together
>>5689879
My head canon voice is Ric Flair because why not.
>>5689914
He isn't hardline enough on crime. Only a cop while Prowl is a force of justice.
>>5689872
Well I'll be riding the debt boat within 3 months when my rent goes up $100 and I gotta start buying baby food for my son because he'll be needing more than breastmilk. Toot-toot.
>>5689914
Prowl and Groove matched each other more in terms of deco.
(Also cuz my streetwise is in storage abd i didn't wanna get it out)
>>5689930
>procreating before you're financially stable
>>5689932
>Procreating
>Not just being a neet forever while pretending to look for jobs online when you are actually shitposting about toy robots
>>5689903
>850 in sanfrancisco
Oh you niave anon, if only
I live in Cali in the valley and it ranges from 600-1200 depending on size and location and were a couple hours from the beach, cali has 10$ minimum wage but good luck finding a job thatll give more than 20 hours a week
>>5689930
>"I can buy what I want and never sell shit stay above water and Im specail snowflake poor"
>get called out on what poor really means
>"well in three months I'll be underwater and be in debut see Im poor!"
Sounds like your just shitposting now.
>>5689928
>>5689949
>>5689944
Shit that sucks man.
I live in Louisiana (New Orleans). Back when I was renting, my wife (then girlfriend) and I had a 2 bedroom, 2 bath apartment in the best part of town next to the mall and it was only $1,050 a month.
But I had a cousin of mine who left here and went to film school in LA. He said that shit was ridiculous. He and his wife had a flat in a decent part of town and were paying almost $1,500 a month.
>>5689955
>>5689958
Oh yeah LAs really bad too, anywhere along the coast in cali is expensive and really small due to how packed in it is, plus LA has garbage air, gave me breathing issues as a kid till we moved. Inward is better, but its going up too, used to pay 850 for a nice 2bed apt but my fiance and I just started renting a pretty nice 2bed house for 700, bathroom is tiny but cant complain otherwise
Eventually I want to leave cali altogether though, too damn hot, shitty air, bad job market and somehow my town is scalper central, used to work at target and fuckers lined up for amiibos on opening day n shit, did meet a cool dude who tipped me off sometimes though
>>5689944
I moved from Sacramento to the middle of nowhere Kentucky
People always find out about that and go "Why would move from THERE to HERE"?
They don't seem to grasp that I can -afford- to live where I do now.
>>5689903
Hahahahahaha I wish it was SanFran. It's a fucking tiny ass town in central new york that panders to Cornell Students. The rent is high because the landlords are pirates and know that wealthy student families will pay it to get their kids out of the house, and townies like me get the fist in the bumbum.
>>5690028
How is the availability of goods and services? Job opportunities in fields you like?
>>5690039
Ultimately it's a farm town, but big enough to be the county seat. If you're not in farms, the factories, or the medical field, the big money's in the coal mines.
Myself, I work retail. And cost of living is so low I can sustain myself on that. I certainly couldn't do that out back in New York or California.
>>5689588
Why are there two Hooks?
>>5690055
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hauler
>>5689588
That episode where they get to build that energy tower gave me so many feels
>>5690065
Huh. I never knew he existed. Kind of like a lost Constructicon who joined the Autobots.
Is there a way to mistransform the Animated Jet Twins to give them cockpit chests in bot mode?
>>5690100
No, at best they can wear them as hoodies like Swerve.
>>5689591
Most of the Takara pack-in comics are like that, especially the Legends ones which is basically "Beast Wars as an office sitcom, guest starring whichever TF the comic came with" and the Kre-O ones.
Funniest part, they're written and drawn by one of the biggest TF geeks in Japan, formerly one of the Takara toy designers, and mangaka of the only GOOD Unicron Trilogy story "Micron Linkage", so they are CRAMMED with obscure trivia and Easter eggs.
Downside, all moonspeak all the time.
>>5690180
>formerly one of the Takara toy designers, and mangaka of the only GOOD Unicron Trilogy story "Micron Linkage
umm, you're thinking of Hirofumi Ichikawa, who unfortunately seemed to drop off the face of the planet after creating the Alternity toys
Hayato Sakamoto makes the Takara comics
>>5689634
to be fair, hes still splayed open.
>>5690192
i'll splay you open, anon
>>5690208
>Doesn't know that was how china factories were in the 80's and the health codes were less strict then for US manufacturing
>>5690208
The only shit around here is the racist crap comming from your mouth, i prefer wasted molds guy to ppl like you
>>5690208
>Curry niger
They moved their factories from China to Vietnam and to India now?
>>5690225
Lol mac n cheese ass white boy detected
>>5690225
lol Jin Saotome detected. You still a bitch slave to pluv? You still refuse to get a job? You still got brown skin? You still crying like a bitch because some liberal told you he wouldn't be your best friend? You still buy $200 worth of MLP toys a week because you're Hasbro's ass slave?
Yeah cry all you want, you'll still buy 5 of everything Hasbro makes, because you're Brian Goldner's bitch.
>>5690225
Does acting like an idiot racist online make you feel like a big man?
Shouldn't you be putting down your edgy katana and getting ready for school in the morning?
>>5690223
>They should bring back prodction here in the US.
The masses including you will not willing pay $45 USD for a Hasbro quality Deluxe.
But You already knew that
You're just shitposting because what else are you going to do tonight?
What's a fair price to hope/expect for regarding Generations Metroplex?
Groove is up on BBTS, $24.99.
>>5690273
OH
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has25038&mode=retail
>>5690265
150 flat, shipping. 250 for tak including shipping
max is 149.99 USD
>>5690281
I should have jumped on the 18.99 amazon price, but I'll accept the extra as a dumbass tax for waiting.
>>5690289
Man I'd love to know what toy shows you go to, all the ones here overcharge for shit like that. Last Gen Metroplex I saw at a toy show was like $300.
>>5690301
TFcon and local toyshows in Toronto for the most part.
>>5690296
You'll be lucky if he lasts till morning. The Amazon one's got sold out in seconds, this will last longer but I'm betting less than two hours.
>>5690315
Well, maybe Amazon will get more, or HTS will finally get some, or...Etc.
I want him just to have a bike most other 6" figures can reasonably ride.
Is hasbro toyshop likely to go up with groove tonight? Id like to get the 15% and shipping
>>5690296
>waiting till tomorrow
I found a listing for 7 Grooves at $20 USD each from Taiwan and that got sold out in the span of an hour. I was lucky to be checking ebay so I bought one as well.
Groove is $17.99 on Entertainment Earth http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSB8826R&id=CA-108070822
Can someone link me a page or explain to me where does the Japanese G1 continuity splits off from American G1?
and I'm pretty sure I'm missing something between G1 Season 2 and the G1 Movie.
>>5690328
Feels bad that a "Who?" character is probably being scalped so hard.
>>5689537
>not the best toy
Maybe not but he' still pretty great. Accuracy be damned, he's a lot of fun.
>>5690308
What's the general price range for TFcon specifically?
>>5690336
The movie was being written while season 2 was airing so many characters introduced in that season didn't make appearances in the film.
>>5690298
fort max not plex.
>>5690338
And the bitching starts. Who cares it's a "Who?" character since people do care enough for it to be bought like that to be scalped.
>>5690343
For the admission or toys there in general?
>>5690360
Sorry, for Metroplex if you can recall
>>5690338
despite all the sour grapes who claimed they didn't want him and that legends groove was perfect, it's pretty fucking clear everyone wanted one and not many could afford the entire takara boxset for one motorcycle deluxe transformer.
17.99 get it while it's in stock boys
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSB8826R#.V0PgQr7er3A
And hts broke...
>>5690364
>and that legends groove was perfect
Hey, he's still fun.
>>5690336
North America:
- G1 seasons 1 & 2
- The Movie
- G1 season 3 & 4
- Beast Wars
- Beast Machines
Japan:
- G1 seasons 1 & 2
- Scramble City OVA
- The Movie (was released later, but fits in here)
- G1 Season 3
- Headmasters
- Super God Masterforce
- Victory
- Zone OVA
- Beast Wars
- Beast Machines
- Beast Wars II (II and Neo were released during BW, but take place after BM)
- Beast Wars Neo
>>5690368
fucker sold out WHILE in checkout.
>>5690336
>and I'm pretty sure I'm missing something between G1 Season 2 and the G1 Movie.
Look up episode lists to see if you're missing anything. If you're just going by English media, there's nothing but a timeskip between season 2 and the movie.
>>5690378
>everything selling out damn near instantly in the middle of the night even
Do stores just order like, 5 of the guy or something and figure that'll be enough?
>>5690375
Oh, and the BWII OVA that takes place between episodes 32 and 33
>>5690338
>an original member of the Protectobots is a "Who?" character
Are you soft in the head?
>>5690369
>manchildren breaking a website specializing in toys for kids all over one single deluxe
>>5690387
Groove's only real defining characteristics are "giant motorcycle" and "shitty robot mode even by G1 standards"
>>5690375
Also, RID2001 is supposed to be part of the Japanese continuity, at the ass end.
>>5690364
Transformer fans are tsundere as shit when a figure's cost can't be justified in their logic.
Look at the skyrocketing price of the classics redeco of Optimus Prime when City Commander was made. This was a toy that nobody wanted, went to clearance prices, and was seen as the shackle holding back SKYWARP in the two pack.
>>5690390
Oh right, I forgot about that.
>>5690375
>take place after BM
How, didn't Cybertron get terraformed
>>5690382
Anon check the traffic of the sites
There are threads in a lot of Transformers boards that are dedicated to reporting when listings go up.
There are people staying up hitting f5 to a wall of pages ready to pounce when the listing is up.
Also most places will let you order up to 10 with no issue so it might be more like 10+ guys buying 10 at once each.
>>5690368
Grabbed, thanks senpai.
>>5690389
>no defining character
His defining characteristic, aside from bikeformer, is that he is a key part of the Protectobots, being a limb that is necessary to form the complete gestalt.
You mental case.
>>5690389
He's still a character transformers fans know, especially if they are combiner fans. For me, an obscure character would be somebody like Ironfist
>>5690399
you're welcome... I didn't get mine because I spent time posting it here for you fucks. Wish me luck in getting myself one.
>>5690400
>is that he is a key part of the Protectobots, being a limb that is necessary to form the complete gestalt.
Apparently not anymore :)
>>5690400 again
>key part
Also one of the original members who should not have been traded out to begin with.
>and now we wait for the Rook defense force to storm this post.
>>5690331
>go to link
>click the transformers link to see if they have any TR shit
>just the leaders
I want Sentinel Prime and Fort Max but this is getting crazy how most listings are just the leaders
>>5690368
Thanks senpai. I THINK I got my order in before it sold out, it's still listed as "Processing" which I HOPE means that, but I'll keep my fingers crossed regardless.
>>5690406
I think he should've replaced blades because that mold sucks.
>>5690395
>tfw actually getting the TRU Masterpiece Optimus Prime from their website before it sold out mere moments later.
>>5690402
All best wishes and luck to you, noble servant of Primus.
>>5690393
BWII takes places thousands of years after BM. Plenty of time for shit to happen.
>>5690400
>being a limb that is necessary to form the complete gestalt.
Not necessarily
>>5690408
Fair warning Entertainment Earth is awful stock online. It might take them days to finally break it to you that they over order and you were one of the unlucky ones.
That said anyone taking this as a sign he will likely glut the market for a bit?
I mean they pop up a pre-order for August, that tells me that Hasbro might ensure demand is fed.
>>5690407
They're probably coming out first Anon. BBTS has had the 2 leaders up for a while now.
>>5690409
>still replacing original member with literally who
You are missing the entire point here.
>>5690400
He's there as chest armor.
>>5690413
>I mean they pop up a pre-order for August, that tells me that Hasbro might ensure demand is fed.
I hope so, if only so scalpers get shitterslammed where it hurts the most: The wallet.
>>5690413
Yeah, I don't really trust EE after some bad experiences. I preordered two on BBTS as safety nets, but I'll keep an eye open for other ones instead.
>>5690412
>not necessary
If you want to have the complete team of Protectobots, then yes he is.
>>5690422
There are other Protectobots that can replace him.
>>5690414
Which is awful because I don't want either leader.
Was really hopping this was going to be like CW and the Leaders would tickle in last.
>>5690412
What happens to the trapped sparks after they go back into their own bodies, do they become organic or remain technic?
>>5690417
No. I would've liked for the team to have all decent to good molds instead of one shitty one crammed in. The characters don't matter, and never did, as long as the combined mode is good.
>>5690425
Well, given aussieland is already getting Fortmax's and stuff, maybe Hasbro decided to roll out all the expensive shit first this time.
>>5690424
But Rook isn't a Protectobot
He's a Militarized Swat tank and doesn't match the theme
>>5690422
But Groove is already on the team. He was replaced as a limb. He wasn't replaced as part of the team.
>>5690419
>He's there as chest armor
And that was a terrible decision. Should have just been the leg to begin with. Scale should never have been taken into account.
>>5690432
>SWAT tank
>not a part of law enforcement
>Protectobot
>>5690431
Fort Max I can deal with but the leaders especially Blaster I can't.
They are the worse toys for that price point that I have seen in awhile for the TF line.
>>5690432
>armoured personal carrier
>not fitting the theme of protection
>>5690434
Why?
>>5690438
Whats wrong with Blaster? Optimus, sure, he just doesn't look that good, but Blaster looks nice.
>>5690434
But why does what you want matter more than what others prefer?
>>5690429
>I would've liked for the team to have all decent to good molds instead of one shitty one crammed in.
So you would be ok if they had fixed the helicopter mold then vs replacing it outright?
>>5690362
It really depends, like the guy I got mine from wanted his gone so he sold me an ACG Metroplex for $125 Canadian but I've always seen them whenever there are any from $150~250 Canadian and that really depends on who is selling them and if they just want it gone or trying to turn it in for some buck. I think one of my contacts there still has like a couple of cases of them for $200 per pop that he either sells or use for customizing. Other than that the price range really fluctuates from anywhere $150~250 and the SDCC versions at 300ish CAD. At the end of it all you might have to wait another 20 years for a reissue before getting one lol.
Pic related that was the one I got from TFcon last year. It's complete with unapplied stickers so I have the option to get my customizer acquaintance to get it to paint nicely.
>We will never be able to make a modern Destron Super Scramble
>>5690444
Fix? It would have to be a new mold. Everything about it is either bad or boring. I would've been very happy if blades was the one chosen to be left out. I prefer bikeformers. That being said rook is still a fun mold.
>>5690375
>Japan
>Movie (where wheeljack is dead)
>Victory (where wheeljack is alive and suggests salvaging Ginrai into Victory Leo)
your timeline doesn't make sense
>>5690447
>to end threats not directly save lives
The threat is against civilians. That's protection.
>>5690447
He's an ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIER
he can TRANSPORT PEOPLE OUT OF DANGER
>>5690441
Very chunky to where posing will be an issue and his helmet gimmick works as poorly as Gavlatron's
HOT DIGGITY
http://www.dorksidetoys.com/Transformers-Generations-Combiner-Wars-Series-May-p/b8826as0.htm
>>5690452
he was just resting
>>5690453
It's not the theme of the cast.
The other 4 are saving lives
Rooks alt is based on ending threats by your logic all miltary machines could be protectobot alts
>>5690456
Haven't really seen any close up shots of his face yet to see if it'll look off, but he looks decently poseable to me. And lets face it, Blaster/Soundwave were always boxy, chunky guys.
>>5690455
That dosnt change the fact his alt is a miltary machine used to end living threats
>>5690452
>G1 Transformers, Season 1, Episode 1
>All the transformers are dead
>Magical Cybertron satellite shit pops out of a console and brings everyone back to life
Does it really matter that much? Maybe there was another magical space laser thingy doohickey.
>>5690460
How's a motorcycle saving lives?
>>5690460
Except is on a more city level. He's protecting people. His vehicle is used for protecting civilians. I mean you can keep trying but it's the truth.
>>5690447
>Rook is more like miltary than civil protection.
Ok then, tell me why Streetwise is ok then if he's a police car.
>make a stale joke about Rooks alt mode based on a 5 month old shitposting that lasted 4 threads
>people take it seriously
>some asshat keeps feeding them bait
>they keep biting
come on guys try and at least pretend you have shame
>>5690440
Why should it have changed at all?
>>5690433
Being replaced as a limb is replacing him on the team.
>>5690443
I never claimed it did. But that logic applies both ways, does it not? As far as I've seen more people prefer limb Groove to legends Groove. But the outcry of Rook supporters makes even suggesting the opinion "the team didn't need a new member" an uphill battle.
Are there any ninja transformers?
>>5690462
So? He has a protective function. Blades turns into a rescue helicopter but is a ruthless street fighter. Broadside turns into and aircraft carrier AND fighter jet, but hates water and flying. Mirage drives around in the desert and doesn't race. Vehicle modes don't always match the character or intended use.
![BZtADjjCAAAglTg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1M3VBrw.png "BZtADjjCAAAglTg[1].png")
>>5690460
Hasbro thinks so.
>>5690451
>another rook defender
suspected as much
>>5690473
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ninja
![stakeout-protectobots-010[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Xm0FEBy.jpg "stakeout-protectobots-010[1].jpg")
>>5690476
>>5690472
>Being replaced as a limb is replacing him on the team.
Nope, it's canon that the Protectobots have extra members just to make sure Defensor can always be formed. He's a modular member, not replaced.
All this commotion over Groove and poor Heatrock and Skyfeather are stuck wasting away in obscurity.
>>5690473
G1 Sixshot and there's a two pack of bikeformers from RID2001 where the crotchrocket is a ninja
>autist defending Rook again
please mister shit poster leave our retards alone. I know r9k is slow on a Monday night but could you at least bother co with a Civil War Tony was right thread or something?
>>5690467
He's alt has one fuction irl:
To get through a wartime or dangerous area to deploy troops to kill people
>>5690489
>irl
We're not talking about real life here, we're talking about a world of transconfiguring mechanobeings
>>5690478
>thinking the helicopter mold is better than the rook mold
I'm sorry groove wasn't originally a limb on the Hasbro team and that you're hurt by this but even an idiot knows the rook mold is better than the copter.
>>5690494
No, I'm just saying Hasbro has no standards for what classifies as a Protectobot.
>>5690492
>Even in a world with transforming crazy weird ass robots that combine we still have niggers.
Makes sense to have Groove be a Swat Vehicle to me.
>>5690489
You mean like stopping riots from destroying property and hurting many? Not protection at all.
>>5690483
I'm glad there's actually a Nightbird TF now so no one has to respond with "Nightbird's not a Transformer"
>>5690473
Space ninja mercenary consultant with 6 forms and a 7th secret one.
>>5690492
So why are you even arguing with him? Why even engage it?
>>5690489
>>5690494
Seriously stop baiting
>>5690485
>google heatrock
>those shoulder drills
TwinTwist remold when?
>>5690497
Same could be said about missiles aimed at enemies
>>5690473
Bioverse Tanratulas
>>5690493
>still defending rook
I'm sorry that you are completely okay with altering established canon simply "for reasons".
>>5690489
And yet his weapon of choice is the jaws of life.
>>5690500
>>5690504
Poor poor kid.
>>5690485
Heatrock, Skyfeather, and Rook need another three limb members so they can be a complete secondary protectobots team.
(Heatrock and Skyfeather form a torso for anyone who doesn't know.)
>>5690511
>poorfag argument
kek
>maximumdamagecontrol.jpg
>>5690515
Ratchet and Medix are two more for the team
>>5690521
>>5690513
>shouldn't have been shuttle
No one has said this, I'm sure.
>>5690520
Now that did crack me up. I mean obviously you knew it wasn't an insult on one's wealth but you rolled with it. Pretty clever.
