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Dammit, NECA.
>http://necaonline.com/56438/blog/san-diego-comic-con/sdcc-exclusive-tmnt-arcade-turtles-and-foot-clan-box-sets-video
>>5688807
Oh fuck,
I need these in my life. Like now. Fuck...how much? I was so excited that I didn't notice any pricing info.
>>5688807
>SDCC Exclusive
ffs
>>5688810
>>5688807
Ohhh fuck!
>>5688807
fucking fuck all the exclusivers with a rake and their sons too.
![TMNT15-1300x[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4p2gaId.jpg "TMNT15-1300x[1].jpg")
>SDCC exclusive
I wonder if this is the only reason Playmates is allowing NECA to release them? I know Playmates has some kind of nebulous monopoly on 6' TMNT figures.
(A QUALITY SHREDDER FIGURE AT LONG LAST HOLY SHIT)
>>5688807
>SDCC exclusive
>>5688903
Except Bluefin is bringing the SHF ones into the US, so likely Playmates wants money more than a monopoly.
>>5688924
when?
I'm such a pleb and don't even know what bluefin is, I get SHF = S.H. Figuarts?
Also, are they classic turtles or more modern ones?
>>5688934
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/search.aspx?search=figuarts%20ninja%20turtles
October supposedly
The box sets are just the exclusive, just like how the older NECA Turtles sets were exclusives, and we'll get single packaged releases soon, right? Right?!
>2 sets
>SDCC exclusives
Well, guaranteed $200 minimum per set.
Fuck SDCC exclusives.
I bought these today while on vacation, they're the secret of the ooze classic collection figures
>>5688951
We got a box in at my store, they have a decent amount of accessories but their faces are fucking goofy and painted pretty bad.
>>5688951
the heads are horrible. Do they come with alts?
>>5688945
Likely, yeah.
>>5688977
>>5688975
Yeah I put the heads that I thought worked best on the figures, they all come with 4 heads but Donny and Mikey have it the worst
All the accessories are in the back
>>5688934
Bluefin = US distributor of Bandai products, amongst other things
>>5688989
Eh, I'll be painting over their pupils anyway so I can call them the 2K3/Default turtles.
>>5688989
>>5688807
I would think this was going to be just a 1 use thing if they reuse the Mirage molds.
But no. this are brand new thing.
So probably we are going to see more of it.
At least on a "sold alone" kind.
It just took 8 years so neca could give it another shot.
>>5688939
shieet nigga, $63 per figure? dayum
>>5689080
There is where you should decide what you want.
You prefer a figure that is probably perfectly crafted with ton of articulation and stuff.
or for that price buy almost 3 decently looking figures.
all depend of your philosophy
How likely is a reissue ofethe old comic Turtles that NECA made? I know the bootlegs are pretty good, I own one myself, but it'd be cool to get some real ones at retail.
These new ones look great. Hoping they won't be extremely difficult to get, or that each figure gets standalone releases at some point.
>>5689091
Pretty unlikely
>>5688989
ow my knee
>>5688807
Fuck me. I want these.
>>5688807
I caled this years ago and I've been asking for it since they made the video game line, and Randy always told me it wasn't possible. I hope they sell them on their blog.
As long as it's made "for the convention and in boxed sets" they'll be holding up their end of the deal, so whatever leftovers they have can be sold online. Let's just hope they're forward thinking and not afraid of money.
I just want a fuckin Shredder figure goddamnit. Why is life so hard?
>>5688875
im pretty sure these have to suck first in order to be released in mass retail. like that shitty Guile.
>>5689373
Because Playmates are fucking shitbags that have an iron grip on the Turtles license.
>>5689432
I'd be upset if they looked good.
>>5688807
NECA: "Fuck You! TMNT fans. Can't get to SDCC? Too bad. Made it to SDCC but sets were sold out to scalpers? Too bad. FUCK YOU!
SAVE US CHINA
>>5688807
These looked great until I noticed the pixels.
>>5689432
Figured they'd be able to get around it via Video Game Colors like they did with Batman.
>>5689498
Yeah, not a fan of the pixels... but for a decent Shredder and foot ninjas I might be able to work with it. Just depends on how much I'm willing to put up with the inevitable scalper prices.
>>5689499
>Mattel let video game Batman get out
>they also let the 89 Batman get out as long as it was sold with Batman 89 DVDs exclusive to TRU
>they then let them do the same with Reeve Superman, Ledger Joker, and West Batman
>mfw we are living in an age where Mattel is a less stingy and less shitty company than Playmates
ooooooh shit
I normally only want the cartoon ones, but the arcade game was a childhood favorite and actually stands up today.
Best TMNT figures? UNF UNF UNF
>>5689453
Implying that's NECA and not Playmates fault, they won't let them sell through the NECAclub site like usual.
>Just want a decent 80's shredder
>The world is always against it
>>5689453
Yo dipshit, it's Playmate's fault. They're the ones with the stranglehold on the license and forcing NECA into this.
>>5689544
Haven't explicitly stated that.
>>5689525
Mattel probably didn't let them do shit. That was all Warner. Warner has all control on those properties, and NECA went straight to them.
The problem is that Playmates has had TMNT on lock since the 80's. Its really the only thing they have at this point.
>>5689585
Well of course they aren't going to come right out and say it's playmates fault, that'd be in bad taste. But it's easy enough to read between the lines and see who's holding them back.
>>5688903
all of these figures are gorgeous.
>>5688951
I saw these at Wal-Mart today for $20 each. Easy pass. They should be valued at $16 at most, especially bc of those heads and Raph's dildo sai.
>>5688807
>at long last neca releases Shredder and FS
>SDCC exclusives
Can't Playmates just go out of business already? It almost too bad TMNT is a license to print money because its the only thing keeping them afloat. Look at their busy 2016 line-up! Yep, that's TWO lines, one of which doens't launch until Fall. What a joke.
I know people here hate Hasbro and Mattel and everything, but they'd do a much better job with this line at this point. Even bandai USA would do a better job. Let alone Neca or Mezco.
>>5688951
>mouth opens to solid flat piece
it's like they hired the artist who drew the vaginas in HuniePop to design these faces.
>>5689673
It sucks because they prevent absolutely everything from happening with that license. We'll never get IDW comic turtles, we'll never get fully painted figures...all because Playmates is being Playmates.
>>5689679
I bet they won't let Bandai make Shredder or anyone else. It'll be like Revo and their only allowed to do the turtles.
>>5689679
It even sucks for those who actually work at playmates, too. The actual sculptors have been their since the 80's/90's. They're still good; the new Muckman shows that. Playmates just gives them no budget.
I wonder how much these are going to cost for all of them
$200?
$400?
Much better than paying $200 for the Figuarts that are just based on the Dollar Tree logos.
>>5689689
revo wasn't only allowed turtles they just didnt necessarily wanna expand afaik
bandai did say sdcc would have prototypes for more characters (i think it was casey & bebop/rocksteady?) so we might be in the clear for once
>>5689695
$100 bucks each if you can actually get a hold of them without a middleman.
>>5689673
>Can't Playmates just go out of business already?
And then what?
It's Nickelodean who made the shitty license that prevents everyone else from making toys.
Instead of Playmates, we'd get Mattel's bullshit and we'd be worse off because they wouldn't be making new molds.
look like shit
>>5689637
>they won't let them sell through the NECAclub site like usual.
>>5689703
Pretty sure NECA got blocked from doing Shredder and the foot clan before the Nick deal. Its a very borderline thing but the Nick deal was in late 2009, and the turtles line was around 2008, so they had time to get the rest out.
I think Hasbro would do the best job out of the big western companies as a new licensor. yeah they're /toy/'s whipping boy, but at least they actually make figures that exist. A new license deal would also probably end up being less iron-clad as Playmate's license; they scooped it up before the cartoon was even a ting, after all.
>>5689703
>It's Nickelodean who made the shitty license that prevents everyone else from making toys.
Actually, no, it's squarely on Playmates. They've got a contract going that's lasted since the 80s, Nickelodeon just reupped with them because, business.
>>5689724
Literally this. They inherited the property & pre-existing contracts came with, other than 4kids' who were bought out.
>>5689432
$200 after they all get snatched up by scalpers.
Thanks comic-con
>>5689720
>yeah they're /toy/'s whipping boy
that would be Mattel. 2/3 of /toy/ are so loyal to Hasbro, they buy ponies.
>>5689728
>$200 after they all get snatched up by scalpers.
>>5688807
Can't wait for the Chinese KO with non pixel deco. Come on NECA, fund some no name china company and make more profits with these figures. Such a waste for them to be only released in few hundred pieces each.
>>5689724
> They've got a contract going that's lasted since the 80s, Nickelodeon just reupped with them because, business.
That's still Nickelodean though.
They can rewrite the contract any time they reup, especially when the ownership changed hands.
So its entirely Nickelodean's fault and they'd do the same shit again with whomever gets the license, because why not? Money is money and a company like Mattel has more of it.
>>5689773
Playmates keeps the deals from going through though, not Nickelodeon. Nick just owns the turtles, Playmates has the master merchandising license.
>>5689777
>playmates has nickelodean by the balls
You're clueless.
Again, the OWNER writes the license. They dictate everything. Playmates can only make requests.
So when another company starts to intrude on what they paid for, they have to go to the owner to ask that company to stop.
And these licenses usually only last about 5 or 4 years, so Playmates definitely had to reup since 2009 and that's another chance to change what the license gives.
So again, everything you're complaining about is because of Nickelodean.
>>5689793
You're a moron if you don't think Playmates has the power here. It is not because of Nickelodeon.
Playmates even began their own Mirage Turtles line JUST to push NECA's out of retail. They're able to do as they please with the license. Nick is just in the background.
>>5689842
>$100 for all 4 turtles and some extra accessories and a pair of hands each.
>~$280 for all 4 turtles with some extra accessories, a few more hands, and heads.
Take your pick.
And they're representing 2 different versions of the Turtles, there's no reason to compare them other than you're trying to start something pointless.
>>5689852
>100 dollars for four turtles with a shit paint style, the most blocky and generic looking style of turtle, and Neca quality
Not that guy but comparing the two is ok to me considering these are the best two we've got, and 99% of people wont be able to get the neca ones
>>5689852
You forgot about articulation, bro. People will claim the articulation on the NECAs are alright, but they're literally 8 year old NECA figures. They won't be able to pull off a quarter of the poses the Figuarts can.
Plus only hipsters care about the Mirage turtles, everyone really cares about the 80's turtles.
>>5689793
No, YOU are clueless. Playmates /literally funds/ the Nickelodeon animated series. This was explicitly stated by its executive producers, it is why they are forced to do "mutant of the week" episodes that promote toyetic characters. Playmates designs the vehicles, they help develop themes for the series that are the foundation of their many variants, their involvement is significant. It's always been this way, too. Even the 4kids cartoon, while largely being the baby of Peter Laird, had a whole bunch of horse-shit product shilling in it for stupid motorcycles & costumes.
>>5689884
I mean, they kinda do, but it's subjective. Hope you can get your hands on the turtles of your choice!
>>5689880
>>5689808
>no one wanted the TMNt license, so playmates gots all the rights!!!
LOL, you guys are nuts.
I have never seen a license where the licensee dictates anything.
Prove any of the bullshit you guys believe or fuck off.
And no, NECA being barred from releasing Footclan or Shredder isn't proof of anything, because that's normal shit that belongs in every license. That's what a license is for, to specify who, what, where is made.
To dumb it down for you kids: it's like when a parent (nickelodean) gives a room (merch rights) in a house (the world) to each of their kids. Sometimes a kid has to share a room (like say, merch rights for 6" figures) and the parents dictate what side of the room they get (country/continent).
So what happens with the kids who share a room and the littlest one keeps on touching his brother's side? The parents have to come in tell the other one to stop. They're sharing and they need to learn to respect the other's side.
>>5688989
god fuck these playdoh faces
BURY MY WALLET AT WOUNDED KNEE
Little-no chance turtles will be online during con through them.
https://twitter.com/NECA_TOYS/status/734853604348039168
>>5689852
Lets be honest here, the majority of people who get these sets for $100 are going to immediately turn and resell them for a lot more than that.
Comparing a regular priced item to the price of an exclusive you know will be scalp bate is naive and pointless.
>>5689938
>regular priced item
One of the biggest rip offs ever.
A figure should only cost that much if it's limited, thus they have to charge more per figure to make up the cost of production.
>>5689938
BTW, since most popular Marvel and Star Wars characters are scalped, do you consider ML and BS figures to be expensive?
>>5689909
You fucking twat, Playmates is what keeps all TMNT shit from retail. Playmates is why NECA couldn't release series 2 of their figures. Playmates is why you'll never see action figures from any other company in the United States. It's exactly like Hasbro blocking many of the Japanese Star Wars items from being released over here officially. NECA has said they have to work with Playmates, who ALLOWS these figures to exist. They even had to get Playmate's permission just to produce the Sliders. Playmates is the one in control of TMNT action figure merch, and they hold on to that as tight as they can.
Quit being a fucking moron for once in your life.
>>5689979
>implying Playmates writes the licenses
Sure is 12 year old who doesn't understand how licensing works.
Want me to teach you? Join me in my van, that has "FREE CANDY" written on it, down by the river. : ]
Also, if what you're saying is true, then that means Playmates has third party sourcing, which means most anyone can make TMNT toys then, but like with all licensing, it's broken up into regions.
Sucks for you that you're too poor to go anywhere, but that means you wouldn't be able to buy ssomething so expensive anyway.
pic of a great line that is limited to being sold in a certain place because of how licensing works.
>>5690024
Playmates has the master license for TMNT toys. You are a dumbass.
>>5689968
Are you honestly trying to either imply that comic con exclusives aren't massive scalping targets, or that it's in any way comparable to mass release items?
Do you have any idea how dishonest either of those positions would be?
>>5689968
What do massively produced and easily located figures have to do with limited production comic con exclusives being scalping targets that very few people have a chance to get outside of scalpers?
>>5689730
>2/3 of /toy/ are so loyal to Hasbro, they buy ponies.
I mean if you like it, why not?
Counting they are new sculpts and can only be sold at Cons, wouldn't NECA need to sell a shitload of these to break even/profit?
In that case then they just might bring tons of them to SDCC or keep selling them at other cons.. Just me speculating I don't really know much about the cost of toys but from what I read the steel molds are the most expensive part.
>>5689979
But what about the ThreeZero, Mondo, and S.H.Figuarts TMNT figures all being sold in the US?
>>5690060
>like it
>implying Hastards don't suffer from Stockholm Syndrome, buying even the toys they hate because they need to "support the brand"
>>5690181
>But what about the ThreeZero, Mondo
The ThreeZero and Mondo figures are considered to be different enough from the Playmates line of figures that they're allowed to exist. Same reason why NECA is allowed to produce that line of 12' movie figures. The scale and price point are worlds apart from the Playmates dreck you see on pegs at Toys R Us.
As for the Figuarts, it's legitimately surprising to me that they're allowing Bluefin to release them stateside, but I assume the only reason it's happening is because they can only be found at non-traditional toy outlets like amazon or barnes and noble.
Why did they start doing this ugly pixel shit with the video game appearances figures? Now they don't look right displayed with the existing ones Neca did. Plus it's just kind of ugly since the sculpts of course aren't blocky or angular.
>>5688807
yea... there's no way non usfags can get this for an affordable price huh?
>>5688903
> NECA FINALLY gets to use the Shredder and Foot molds after so many years.
> It's for this.
Though from the looks of it the Shredder has a new better looking head.
Fuck... I want it.
>>5688854
100 for each 4 pack. But it'll be an SDCC exclusive so if you're not going expect to pay more.
>>5690036
>uses words without understanding what they mean
So what are you trying to prove by that? What are the specifics?
Oh, you don't even know, do you?
>>5690053
>>5690044
What? He's talking about massive scalping targets shouldn't use the MSRP for their true cost, and you're saying that Boba Fett and Jango Fett arent?
Obviously, they aren't made in as limited numbers as SDCC figures, but i sure as hell have an easier time getting SDCC figures than mass market figures at their MSRP.
>>5690147
5,000 at $30 is usually enough for them to make a profit. It should be noted that by pricing them in a bundle like that for $100 means they actually make a greater profit, even if they're getting less money per figure. Like you said, the molds are made and there is likely some reuse, so the added cost for them isn't actually that much.
And i do hope they make a ton. I'll probably want to buy 2 or 3 of the foot clan sets for army building and sell off the Shredders.
>>5690591
>And i do hope they make a ton. I'll probably want to buy 2 or 3 of the foot clan sets for army building and sell off the Shredders.
I hope so too. Have them produce way more than they're actually gonna bring to SDCC, and sell that from their site as "overstock".
>>5690601
>and sell that from their site as "overstock".
Randy said they won't and can't.
>>5690601
I should note that I am going ot SDCC and will be buying 2-3 foot clan sets.
>>5690713
I really really hope so, because it really sucks shit when they pull a "Sold Out" sign at the convention on fucking Friday, say they have no more, and then put everything online as "left overs"
Everyone who's whining are better off using that bawing energy in finding people who will middleman for you and hope they make more than 10,000 sets, but given how soft sales for exclusives were last year, they might be conservative with their production numbers.
>>5690730
They can't. Randy said it's unlikely.
>>5690591
So you're a scalper piece of shit? Wow, what a shocker.
>>5689498
I don't like the pixels, either. And to be honest, with how hard to get and expensive they'll be, I don't know if I'd wanna risk painting them if by some miracle I'm ever able to get them. But the sculpts are REALLY good...
I don't see why SDCC exclusive is a problem. Just got to SDCC!
> Take time off work
> Fly/Drive there
> Pay to park
> Pay for hotel
> Pay to get in?
> Stand in line for 900 hours
> Get toys
EASY PEASY
>>5690768
>army building to play with and getting rid of doubles = scalping
amazing logic
I don't suppose harassing Playmates through twitter would help shake their hold on the master licensing would it? No? Oh well.
Wish they'd go out of business now. I want better TMNT toys nooow.
>>5690829
Well you have shown yourself to be an unhappy bag of shit, so far. It only makes sense you'd be a scalper too. Same personality traits.
>>5690768
oh you're not going to SDCC? But you want to get your hands on this exclusive?
Oh whats that? you NEED me to go get one for you? ooohhh
>>5690846
Scalper scum everybody.
So wait, I've been following this thread and want to confirm.
These will probably end up coming out as regular releases in a more "normal" paint scheme right? They wouldn't make new molds like this JUST for a one off event, right? But also the impression I'm getting from this thread is that due to licences they may not be able to use the molds for any kind of retail release,
is that right?
>>5690887
You will 99.99% likely not see these hit retail, ever. Because Playmates has the master license, they are "being nice" and working with NECA allowing them to sell these box sets ONLY at SDCC. No other cons, no online ordering.
Randy said on Twitter if they managed to release the Mirage series 2 figures now, under this licensing agreement with Playmates lord in over all, they'd still only be able to sell it at cons and in box sets. He's said it many, many times on twitter now, this is what they're limited to by doing these.
The all new molds may get repainted for future box set exclusives, but as long as Playmates lives, we suffer.
>>5690887
NECA's twitter has reiterated a few times that these figures are con exclusive. Playmates won't allow them to be released any other way.
Whether or not they'll be re-released at other cons in the future is another question altogether, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>5690832
You are a fucking retard
I'll probably just drop $500 for both sets on ebay. Because fuck life.
>>5690591
>but i sure as hell have an easier time getting SDCC figures than mass market figures at their MSRP.
This is a bold faced lie
>>5689720
Shredder and the Foot actually got cancelled because the April wave did garbage numbers
>>5689867
These are new moulds, not based on the old turtles
>>5691366
Given how strict Playmates apparently is, it almost makes you wonder if the knockoffs are secretly just NECA.
>>5691360
This is actually wrong, do not listen to this person.
The April figure was an sdcc, and the color variants were never solicited because by that point Playmates had begun their Mirage line, which allowed them to push NECA from releasing anything else.
And then Nick bought the whole shebang.
I wish we'd get good figures of the IDW comic style Turtles. I'm getting real tired of just getting ones based on the worst version of the Turtles.
>>5691362
>Make entirely new molds just to be sold at a convention
JESUS
CHRIST
![1300-Video-Game_Batman[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cFDfj34.jpg "1300-Video-Game_Batman[1].jpg")
>>5691472
Not really the first time it's happened with NECA?
>>5691250
>stand in line 20 minutes at SDCC to get exclusive at MSRP
>get product
vs
>search for months to find popular mass market figure in dozens of stores
>may or may not find product
>resort to paying scalper scum instead of MSRP
No lies.
It's waaaay fucking easier to get shit at SDCC, and while I'm there, i'll pay the scalper scum for the popular toy i couldn't find on the shelves.
>>5691577
That was not a convention exclusive.
>>5688807
>pay aftermarket for Neca's because sdcc ran out
>pay retail for the figuarts
decisions
decisions
>>5691994
>paying for shitty pointless die-cast parts
Fuck off.
>SDCC tickets are long sold out
Well there goes that.
>>5692029
They haven't even gone up yet. Jesus Christ, get your info right. They go up tomorrow.
>>5692034
http://www.comic-con.org/cci/purchase-badges
>Comic-Con 2016 attendee badges are sold-out. We thank you for your support and are very grateful to receive such a high level of interest in our event.
Oh?
>>5692036
Oh you meant the actual SDCC tickets, I thought you were panicking about the damn turtle pre-orders. My bad.
>>5692038
Yeah. No worries anon. How do the Turtles pre-orders work? Do you need like an SDCC badge number or something?
>>5692043
All I've seen on Twitter so far is you pre-order, and you have to have your ID, an attempt to cut down on scalpers (pffff). So as long as you're in the building and they can match your ID with the order number you placed, you're fine.
>>5692043
Disregard that, I stopped being lazy and looked it up.
>>5692044
Thank you. Well since SDCC tickets are sold out, guess I'm fucked. Might as well start saving for scalper rates.
Maybe someone can help a guy out?
I'm looking for these mid-late 90's TMNT toys where there were miniature figures of the Turtles, and they'd be put into larger, maybe Figuarts size Turtle mechs that resembled the individual Turtle? I had Donnie, and I really want to find one again.
>>5692073
I loved these! Muta force turtles.
>>5692083
Fuck yes
Thank you~
>>5691472
To be fair the turtles are just 1 mold with different heads, and Shredder/Foot Soldiers are their original Mirage molds they never got to sell.
all we need is some china company making some perfect knock offs, and everybody could be happy.
>>5692224
I'm hoping it ends up just like the Mirage turtles, I wouldn't mind bootlegs at all if they were of comparable quality of the Mirage knock offs.
>people have already put up ebay listings for these
>>5692025
yeah i bet Neca has great ankle rockers and such anyway :^)
>>5692286
You're joking, right...?
Oh god you're not.
>>5692292
Actually, they do.
>>5691973
>Product that can only be obtained in one place at one time in a year at a limited quantity
vs
>Product you can preorder from many sites and is restocked frequently at every big box retailer and online retailers across the country
You are a moron if you think SDCC exclusives are easier to get at con price for people than it is to find mass release shit at msrp.
>>5691973
>Go to comic-con last year on Friday
>Go to try to get namek goku around noon
>Sold out
>Try to get to next exclusive on my list
>Sold out
Yeah, so much easier than just going on amazon.
>>5692372
>Product that can only be obtained in one place at one time in a year at a limited quantity
Dude, that's exactly why it's easier.
If you knew you could get a 3a Boba Fett at Target one day that you made plans a year ahead of time to go to, you don't think that's easy as fuck?
VERSUS
>needing to go to target multiple times a week for months with no guarantees of actually finding it.
Also
Isn't NECA offering it for preorder anyway? Sucks for those not going to SDCC.
Nevermind your analogy sucks because you usually have to buy a fucking case for mass market toys to get the figure you want and preorders sell out too.
>>5692379
>not having full membership and doing everything on the slow days
sux 4 u 2
>>5692317
I'm not sure whats worse. People putting them up or the people that will bid/buy them with virtually no guarantee the sellers will deliver.
>>5692453
>he thinks paying hundreds to thousands of dollars to risk still not getting an item is easier than going on the Internet at buying something from the many sites that will have them at retail, possibly less, at many opportunities for months
Lol
>>5692473
Seriously. Like, I'm probably going to drop $400, I've come to terms with that, but fuck them if they think I'd do it without some in-hand pics, you know, IN JULY.
>>5692317
>Scalpers charging roughly $200 per set of 4.
Hmm...about what I expected. Looks like I'll start saving I guess...
>>5692453
>Guys it's so much easier to get comic con exclusives, you just have to try to get a ticket first, then you have to fly across the country, pay for a hotel and all that shit, then go wait in line and hopefully get one before they sell out. So much easier than finding a marvel legends figure at retail!
>Denial
There's no way NECA are really making these molds solely for comic con. I bet they'll eventually do a release for TrU or something. No way I'm paying scalper prices
>Anger
You know what, fuck NECA. Their pixel paint aps are shitty anyway. And fuck those scalper scum fags too.
>Bargaining
Anyone want to middle man me a set? I mean, I'd rather they no have the pixelated paint job...but they're growing on me. Seriously, if you can middle man me a set, we can work out a deal.
>Depression
Fuck...I'm never going to own this set. Why is NECA doing this? It doesn't make any sense. All I wanted was a decent Shredder, is that too much to ask???
>Acceptance
Well, looks like I'll just have to bite the bullet and pay the scalper fees... Time to start saving guys.
>>5692494
isn't this the thought process of all /toy/ fags?
i think i'll just get the bootleg mirage ones
i can get those for 65 usd locally
>>5692519
>isn't this the thought process of all /toy/ fags?
Pretty much, yea.
Now that I reread that post...I can honestly say I've had that thought process about a toy at least 5 times this year alone.
>>5692491
>>5692475
>all that strawgrasping
geez, you're as bad as that guy pretending that you can't consider scalperbait toys to cost their MSRP because they might be hard to find.
It's not hard to get into SDCC and a lot of us go regardless of exclusives. As already stated, going the first few days ensures you get what you want.
I actually regret wasting preview night last year waiting in most of the lines, since almost nothing sold out until Saturday and Sunday. Those days are when they start allowing anyone buy an exclusive without waiting.
I really do mean it when I say it's easier to get SDCC exclusives than popular mass market toys.
Yeah, i understand that a lot of your bitching comes from living in a miserable city-state out in the boonies ruled by druglords and think it's impossible to ever leave your shitty existence, but not everyone is you.
>>5692804
>As already stated, going the first few days ensures you get what you want.
Bullshit, I wasn't able to get either of the exclusives I wanted at comic con last year on Friday.
Your entire argument is Bullshit because you never assume you can just do something like set a price or stock monitor for sites and just wait to be notified when a figure is in stock.
Let alone that you find going to the expense of TRAVELLING somewhere outside your state to be easier all around than buying something online or at walmart.
>>5692947
I have a strong suspicion you've been arguing with subjectanon.
It's literally all been in his exact style, so, just sorta stop.
>>5692947
Friday's already too late, dude.
Thursdays are slow as fuck and you can get pretty much everything that day. Preview Night is also the same way.
The exceptions are Hasbro and Mattel, who are very strict about the amount of people who can buy each day... until late Thursday and Friday, where they let in anyone. And last year, almost nothing sold out until late Saturday and even then, Sunday still had a lot of stuff left over and the booth was mostly empty.
>Your entire argument is Bullshit because you never assume you can just do something like set a price or stock monitor for sites and just wait to be notified when a figure is in stock.
Do you have any idea of how terrible this is to gauge?
Lots of people want in until they have to pay money and very few people will give up their money ahead of time. Just look at kickstarter and how few people actually sign up until AFTER it hits its goal. So it requires a lot of people to actually plan ahead and put some fucking forethought into what they're buying.
OH SHIT, sorta like Comic Con, huh? Plan ahead to get what you want, instead of being a little baby who hates everything when they're left out.
oh, and people bitch all the time about kickstarter. It's literally that whole thing someone wants in that other thread about how unfair the world is wah wah wah, yet we get wah wah wah about it too.
>>5692494
Dude, fucking get a clue. It's PLAYMATES preventing everyone from getting these toys, not NECA.
>>5692952
>I have a strong suspicion you've been arguing with subjectanon.
>It's literally all been in his exact style, so, just sorta stop.
Jesus, it's this faggot again. You can call a blade of grass a tree, but that doesn't make it any more true, no matter how loud you yell it.
>>5692974
to be fair, it is actually me.
The other threads aren't me.
Basically, a broken person is going to be right 1 out of 12 times with their emotional break downs.
>>5692804
>It's not hard to get into SDCC
BULL FUCKING SHIT
It's become increasingly harder every year. I've gone for the past 10 years and am not going this year because I couldn't get tickets at either the pre-sale or open sale. Don't go around acting like it's 8 years ago when you could get tickets on site.
>>5692960
>It's fine if you go the first few days, you'll totally get what you want!
>The second day is already too late
You don't even know what you are arguing anymore.
are playmates figures bad?
>>5693506
Yes and no. They sculpt good toys, but then they get greedy and cut the paint apps and sometimes articulation, which leave so much bare plastic that it really hurts what could've been an excellent action figure.
>>5693506
As children's toys no.
>>5693534
What makes it even worse is that they almost always advertise the figure with tons of paint aps on the back of a box. Then when you see it in person, it's missing TONS of paint to the point where it looks like a knockoff.
And this isn't something they just started doing. They used to pull that shit back in the early 90's with the original TMNT line too.
I remember being a kid and seeing awesome figures on the back of a box, going to the toy aisle, finding the figure, and being in total disbelief at how different the actual product was.
>>5692804
Not only are you impressively ignorant but I have zero doubt you are the sort of person that goes to cons alone and everyone you approach desperately runs from you.
>>5693597
Tell me about it, they did the same with the Earthworm Jim toys! "Gee, why are all his guns green? That's not right..."
>>5688807
are there non pixel versions of those. I like the toys but I dont like the paint apps.
>>5693650
No, but I'm hoping China gets on these like they did with the Mirage versions and makes some without the pixels.
I wish I could have experienced SDCC before it went full commercial/casual.
>>5693597
and then when the line got towards the end, they pumped out crack-induced toys like this.
>>5693638
Trek had painted accessories at the start, then by the end it was pink phasers and orange bat'leths.
>>5693672
They did come with stickers though to apply them.
You gotta give it to them, though: the TMNT line pumped out lots of toys and many of them had original molds, hardly any rehashing. Look at that fucking tractor. It's made with quality, durable plastic and is a 100% original mold, and I bet it was never used again. Amazing.
>>5693534
I passed on bebop and rocksteady because of all cut paint apps, it was fucking absurd they'd charge 20 dollars for a 6 inch figure with only like 5 different colors used when you could get a 7 inch neca for the same price.
>>5693597
Well most toy companies always use the hand painted prototypes on the back of packaging, it's not something Playmates does.
Also Playmates actually got pretty good with thei r weapons. IIRC their 2k3 figures all had painted weapons. I don't know why they went back to unpainted for the Nick show.
>>5688951
Wow. this is so shitty.
I still pretty sure that there is NO tmnt line better than picrelated.
Also + 9000 points for the best Bebop and Rocksteady.
Perfect quality and amazing sculpt.
PS:
>>5688989
All heads are shit and look retarded.
>SDCC Exclusive
FUCK THIS
FUCK THAT
FUCK YOU
FUCK YO FAT MOMMA
FUCK YOUR GOLDFISH
FUCK THE WORLD
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
FUCK THE UNIVERSE
FUCK LIFE
FUCK EVERYTHING
>>5693016
>Don't go around acting like it's 8 years ago when you could get tickets on site.
Pretty sure that was 5 years ago, maybe 4 if you count that fucking 1 mile long disaster where people went at 5am to be ahead of the cutoff point.
And i couldn't preregister either, but guess what? I'm still going, because i know people who can get me in.
And why didn't I get in? Fuckers never fucking replied when i sent them email after email about my code not working. Everyone else i knew got in, because they were working in groups to ensure they got in. Did you?
>>5693358
>doesn't know what few means
two days = few.
As i said, you're all but ensured if you go on Wednesday. Thursday is the same shit.
>>5693624
I don't know what to tell you, because i have no clue what you think. Do you get your info from that swede youtube personality who doesn't know shit about SDCC or something?
Either way, the fact you don't believe me just shows you don't have any first hand knowledge about the convention, especially since I've been talking about how sales were last year.
Lemme show a little proof, in the form of a 1:18 line that NO ONE here has talked about. It was on display at that vendor booth that has all those dolls in the back. The table itself usually has regular action figures and models. Couple of asians run it.
>>5692494
okay, I'm butthurt about the whole thing, but this gave me a chuckle.
>>5694370
two days = couple
as in "couple" means pair
few = 3-5
>>5694426
>hodor hodor hodor
Learn gooder english
>>5694439
I don't give a fuck what your website says, shithead.
>>5694370
>two days = few
for most people, like, 99.9% of english speakers, if you only mean two days, let alone that one of those is a like a third of a day, they'd say "couple" since "few" is regularly used to imply 3 or more.
That's the common usage.
Also, just to summarize your current position.
Getting a 4 day pass to comic-con, traveling across the country, paying for a hotel, getting in line on wednesday early enough to get in to preview night to wait in line to buy an exclusive is easier, in your opinion, than having camelcamelcamel pricewatch a site to buy a marvel legends figure when they come in stock at msrp.
>>5688903
I'll just wait for Shredder to come out in non NES colors.
I'm just glad because it appears to be the only decent Shredder figure in existence. Every other one either looks good but has shitty articulation, or has decent articulation but looks terrible.
If only figuarts made a shredder.
What are these metal hybrid figuaration things? Anyone know?
>>5694535
they said theyd have secondary figures at sdcc so its possible
pretty sure i read it was just bebop rocksteady & casey so far tho prolly to tie in with the movie hype but old cartoon style
How come they dont even try on the april oniel figures
Shots fired.
>>5694738
Savage.
>>5694524
>That's the common usage
>doesn't know how dictionaries work
dictionaries post the most common definitions and synonyms first.
Guess why couple is one of the first words?
"Few" an incredibly vague term that has no definite numbers and nothing you've said discounts the fact that "few" can and does mean "two"
Here's another tip on how to into english: CONTEXT. If I'm talking about how you can get pretty much everything on SLOW days, guess what "few" encompasses and what it doesn't? Fridays are not slow, thus the third day of SDCC isn't part of the "first few days" I was speaking about, huh?
>Also, just to summarize your current position.
Since I'm already going to SDCC, just being there on Wednesday and/or Thursday means I'll get my exclusive. It's 99.696593522552% likely I will get what i want.
They're going to be there. They're bringing all their stock for the week. Their hours are 9am-7:30pm. I'm available all day.
As opposed to the complete crapshoot of getting a popular mass market figure, where the chances of me getting it are based on an UNKNOWN ship date and UNKNOWN case orders. There's also the fact that a scalper can and do buy up all the stock they can at retail. Then there's all the potential other buyers in my area. So my success ratio for attaining popular-mass-market-toy is UNKNOWN.
It's all about luck with mass market popular toy.
SDCC exclusive? I just have to wait in line.
So what's easier? Standing in line, instead of going to dozens of stores for an unknown amount of times for an unknown amount of weeks. Even online it's all UNKNOWN and needing to pay above MSRP usually.
Also
>buying a Hasbro figure online
A very shitty example, considering how paint app quality is a crapshoot. Their stuff should only be bought in person.
>>5694856
I like how you yourself started this by setting the metric of easier to get comic con exclusives than find ML or black series figures at MSRP, and are now moving the goal posts to now be finding a flawless one ONLY in person.
Again, you think flying across country, obtaining a 4 day ticket for a notoriously difficult event to get 4 day tickets to, spending a thousand plus dollars is easier than just buying a mass market figure online.
Some part of you knows how retarded that is, and that's the best part of all this. It's the part that scares you in to moving goal posts and getting offensive out of your own defensive concerns.
>>5694856
>SDCC exclusive? I just have to wait in line.
Well, first you have to get a 4 day ticket, which can sell out in a few minutes, or a thursday ticket, but if you get a thursday ticket you'll spend the first half of the day in line getting your ticket and miss that days stock allotments for exclusives. Then you have to schedule time off from work so as to travel to san diego, get a flight, hotel, go wait in line to get your badge, go wait in line for the figure and hopefully catch the days stock allotment, travel back home.
Yeah, I mean, how could anyone not see how much EASIER that is than just buying something that is mass produced and sold through every major online and big box retailer?
>>5694885
>I like how you yourself started this by setting the metric of easier to get comic con exclusives than find ML or black series figures at MSRP
That's retarded and my comment was only to point out that it's retarded logic. A toy should only be judged on it's MSRP.
>are now moving the goal posts to now be finding a flawless one ONLY in person.
I'm not sure how it's moving the goal post, since, if I'm buying a toy, I'm going to make sure it's not derpy as fuck. Sometimes you have to go through the pegs to find the few/many. Sometimes it's your only choice....
>Again, you think flying across country, obtaining a 4 day ticket for a notoriously difficult event to get 4 day tickets to, spending a thousand plus dollars is easier than just buying a mass market figure online.
Except I'm not going to SDCC just to buy toys.
This logic is just as retarded as considering the true cost of the toy to be what scalpers charge.
If I added up the total expenses for going hunting for a mass market figure, it's probably like 10¢, since i only go hunting when I'm in the area and usually buying other shit while I'm there. Same shit applies to SDCC, but some shit at SDCC isn't stuff you can actually price, like meeting up with far off friends.
So fuck off with your retard logic. Just because you'd only go to SDCC to buy a toy doesn't mean everyone else does.
I wish somebody would make a good april figure.
>>5692494
>There's no way NECA are really making these molds solely for comic con.
The funny thing about that reasoning is that these aren't new molds. The turtles are shrunken down versions of the quarter scale ones and Shredder and the Foot are actually the Mirage ones from 8 years ago. Compare them. The Foot Soldiers even have the bulbous eyes of the Mirage versions.
>>5694926
That's still new molds.
The prototypes were already sculpted though.
>>5694926
They're entirely new molds numbnuts, not the movie versions.
>>5693671
I wish i couldve blargh di blergh la blurg
Its still lots of fun and if you can avoid the "commercial" areas then there is A LOT to see.
If you're a comic book collector that is, if you're just there to buy toys then you have to look around patiently but you always come back with something cool.
It is kinda sad when you see the comic book stands fairly empty.
BUt it feels so good when you either find TPB at half price or an old back issue you were looking for.
Toy exclusives were not even a part of the show before.
>>5688807
I'm not sure how I feel about these. I love the concept, but the pixel-shading doesn't work for me. It just looks like they have some kind of weird techno-infection.
They should have replicated the colors and the shading, but not the pixels, like pic related.
>>5691577
This was not a convention exclusive, Nor was it an entirely new mold. Stop being so dumb.
>>5694283
Who are these mutants? Are they from the new show?
>>5688989
>>5694283
>posting the prototypes
>laughingplaymatesexecutives.jpg
>>5694606
250 for a full line of turtles isn't bad considering the alternative of paying 200 for these figures that have articulation from 8 years ago with a mediocre paint scheme
What are the chances of these getting Chinese bootlegs?
>>5696171
articulation from 10 years ago > articulation today.
>>5696175
are there bootlegs for their aliens figures? or that mecha movie?
Seems like most bootlegs happen because a factory feels slighted and production was taken elsewhere. So it's unlikely a current factory would steal the molds and you won't get bootlegs anytime soon.
>>5696175
>What are the chances of these getting Chinese bootlegs?
100%
Now if you asked 'what are the chances of these getting Chinese bootlegs within the next 2-3 years?' I would have said not very high.
It's taken the bootleggers 4 years to start producing two of the most popular predators (Big Red and City Hunter), they only started showing up on ebay a few months ago.
And some sought after figures such as Isaac Clarke from the Dead Space line don't seem to have any bootlegs despite the original figures being released 7 years ago.
>>5689547
tHIS
>>5696195
>Transformers MP KOs show up months after the original comes out
>some other company takes years to KO simplified action figures
Maybe if the TF KO people did these you'd not have to wait so long.
How are the NECA bootlegs of the comic Turtles? I've been eyeing them for a while, but I'm afraid they'll be shit since they're bootlegs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzok5OKcVIk [Embed]
The Figuarts turtles are looking really good. If they do end up announcing a 2nd wave at SDCC I could definitely see this becoming the definitive TMNT action figure line.
>>5696541
They're great, honestly. I wouldn't know they were bootlegs unless someone told me.
>>5689968
A bit. I'd rather them be in the 10 to 15 range instead of the 15 to 25 range. at least for ml, black series is all around way to fucking expensive.
>>5696724
>the definitive TMNT action figure line
>at $70 per figure
Haha, no, fuck you.
>>5698497
so if they cost $10, they'd be definitive?
And really, they'd never be definitive, because they're not the 1980s cartoon TMNT.
>>5698505
speaking of which, here's some other non-80s turtles.
>>5698531
I want original comics Turtles that aren't sold at rapu prices.
>>5698700
The stylization works because they're supposed to be stylized.
The Figuarts dont because they're disappointingly not based on the originals (mirage can suck it).
>>5698900
That expression is adorable. I lthink I'm in love with these.
>>5694535
All I want is a half decent Foot Solider because none have really matched the style of the ones from the 80's show and I find that highly disappointing
>>5696195
The SHF Hulk seemed to pop up pretty fast.
And though not related, perhaps since this is a limited con set, they'll make some quickly, since the molds wouldn't be used again.
>its neca so the figures will be garbage
>>5700532
>>its neca so the figures will be garbage
'sup troll
>>5700536
But he's telling the truth, anon.
>>5700536
>responding to an obvious troll
>>5698900
>mirage can suck it
literally zero taste confirmed
I caved an pre-ordered the SH Figuarts
Suck it /toy/
>>5696724
I'm so happy I preordered these. I really hoep we get a shredder, foot clan soldier, and casey.
>>5693624
Hey I'm @ a con right now
>>5702189
can you take pictures of new things and possibly things we dont already own?
Thanks for the pictures and whatnot but some of us have these already.
>>5688807
These looks far nicer than any of the past NES NECA release. Damn I need these lol
>>5695096
I thought pic related was very well done
>>5702189
Why bring rare potatophone to a con? My Barnes and Noble has this same setup.
>>5704140
they sell the sandtrooper at B&N?
And that's a really shitty con if all they have to display is old stuff like that.
