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Happy Thanksgiving! Let's have a nice thread.
>>5301134
Bipolar OP
>Scum pls go
>Let's have a nice thread
Update: the BJD Addicts mods made a quarantine thread for the horrifying blinking-doll gifs. thank god
>>5301147
Pretty sure it's just friendly ribbing
>>5301152
I am offended that you disagree with me
Anyone know of a good online store to buy 1:3 scale props from?
>>5301134
So, I'm considered scum now. Thanks for killing my interest in dolls.
Does anyone know how to make underwear for 6 inch dolls? Or if anyone has a pattern I can follow. I'm learning how to sew clothes but I'm having trouble with small articles of clothing.
>>5301239
faggot. if thats all it takes to kill your interest in dolls then you weren't interested to begin with.
>>5301239
Oi my negro, we are are just tired of shitty derails due to people attention whoring. Like cool, strap in, and hang on for the ride. We don't give a fuck who or what you are. Welcome to a motherfucking anonymous board. Get acquainted with the FAQs, and if there's something not clear (which yeah, it happens) feel free to ask. Don't be the fagtron that announces themselves pathetically with dank memes worthy of /r9k/
>>5301209
kek'd at filename, but sauce on the doll on the right?
>>5301239
Are you the anon from last thread? You know that casual ribbing/mocking other boards is kind of a thing all over 4chan right? This is a pretty friendly thread to be honest. Just talk about dolls, if you have questions about dolls please post them, and nobody will be mean to you.
>>5301369
April Story Jayden. But the old version, not the derptastic new one on the site now.
>>5301400
Goddamn it. And April Story is discontinuing their stuff due to warehouse fire. I think I dig Clover more, though. Thank you, anon.
>>5301400
Yikes.
>>5301436
AprilStory discontinued all their dolls last year and brought them all back but decided to 'update' them. Some looked alright with their new versions, but others like Jayden and his female counterpart Olivia didn't do so well.
70k yen for a saber alter DD v2 body stained worth it? pls dont buy it.
>>5301567
Thanks for the heads up, checking out now.
>>5299721
If it helps you any, my 63cm boy was able to wear SD13 pants perfectly fine. There was only ever one pair that was a touch short, and it looked fine when worn with black dress socks and shoes or black ankle boots.
>>5301568
Fine ill just buy the saber extra then.
>>5301567
Are all the clothes and stuff included? If so, that's a good price. She's tough to find, popular, and if you're in the US the exchange rate is very much in your favor.
>>5301761
nah no clothes and accessories unfortunately.
>>5301417
Damn, R.I.P. all their sculpts.
Is there a certain brand of eye puddy that works best?
Also, whats the main difference between glass and acrylic eyes, other than material?
>>5301417
This chinese company looks surprisingly promising.
http://bebelldoll.com/
$159 for a sd body is pretty darn good. Watch them turn out to be a recast or design stealing company tho.
>>5302538
I usually do about 2 times the size of the eyeball. It's enough to keep everything secure, but not so much that the putty starts popping out of the sockets.
bjd collecstasy is kill
>>5302552
idk, something's off to me about them. Kinda like once they reach your hands they'll be horribly unphotogenic in most angles. If you want a body that's not going to hang out naked all the time, do it!
>>5302538
Honestly, I use clean kneadable eraser as eye putty, but light-colored poster tack works well too. Most companies sell sculpey-like stuff, but it never holds things in there firmly enough for me.
Also, DO NOT USE the sculpey-like stuff for acrylic eyes. They will crack. I had this happen and was bewildered when I took them out and they were cracked, since they were fine when they went into the doll and she had never taken any rough tumbles.
Acrylic eyes:
>plastic
>often really flat and lack dimension
>cheap
>Many of the anime-styled eyes are acrylic
Silicone/Soft Glass
>Rubbery/squishy
>flat design underneath (especially in the case of Soom the last couple of years; I have eyes from them I had gotten before the first FCE that actually had a dimensional iris underneath)
>stains easily
>attracts dust like a magnet
Glass eyes
>glass (duh)
>Have more lifelike threading
>More durable
>Not prone to staining
>will cut a bitch if the backs have stems
Urethanes
>Durable
>Prone to staining
>Larger variety and customization prospects
>If you make them to order, they usually take a very long time
>High-end urethanes are expensive as hell
>Very brilliant
>>5302538
best stuff to use in my experience for sticking the eyes in the head, no matter the kind of eye, is silicone ear plugs. i use Mack's Silicone putty ear plugs. You can easily break them in half and a pack lasts forever. I use it in all my dolls, and have for years with no damage and no staining because there's no dye.
If the anon who was interested in the BTSSB DearSDs is still around, there's an info page up about them now:
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/info/dear_sd/
>>5303240
Thanks for posting the link, I wasn't the anon who asked for more info but it's nice to know you can buy the brand dresses separately.
>>5302636
No it's not (although it's called bjd collectasy, so maybe you're misspelling the url.)
>tfw you finish the final payment on your doll
>>5304355
>TFW they're to be delivered next week
>>5304385
> tfw you still have two more layaway payments to go
>>5304527
gets me every time
>>5301239
grow some thicker skin
Goddamn. Even with the overkill of abs, I really want this body.
>>5304873
The Nobilitydoll muscle female body? It's gorgeous, but every single person I've seen who actually owned one had to put in a shitton of mods to make it pose at all in even the most basic ways, and was frustrated with it. It sounds like it was even worse at posing than Mirodolls.
I know IOS is coming out with a muscular female body in the future, so there's hope for something like that but better-engineered to be available.
>>5304882
On one hand, dream fucking shattered. On the other, thank you for that ray of hope that is IOS. Fingers crossed that one is better.
Do you have links or pics to owner shots of the nobility doll body though?
>>5304886
Here's a thread detailing the posability issues and documenting the mods one person did to get it to stand, sit, etc:
https://denofangels.com/threads/nobility-muscular-girl-mods-and-posablility-update-04-17.497510/#post-8707518
Here's the group order leader's review of the quality received for the price and how disappointed she was, even for a $250 body. I think she did mods on hers as well since this person does a lot of mods but I didn't see a thread by her in my half-minute of looking:
https://denofangels.com/threads/nobility-doll-custom-order-feedback-girl-muscle-body-humbugs-design.510748/#post-8939161
If you don't have a DoA i can screenshot it for you, but here's one of the pics from the first thread to give an idea how fucked this thing was -- it would spontaneously do this when standing. If I could buy an already modded one that posed well than I would, but as is, what a mess.
>>5304910
Many thanks anon. At first glance, it already looks like a trainwreck.
But now I'm a bit confused. Was it someone else's design they just sculpted and cast? Do they have permission to use the design again if so? I'm going to read through, so these questions are a bit preemptive but I'm just thinking out loud for now.
>>5304917
it was a group order using a DoA member's design. Not sure about the other specifics though.
>>5304917
Oh wait, I found Rosslyn's thread after all, here you go:
https://denofangels.com/threads/warrior-maiden-journey-of-a-nobility-60cm-muscle-body.517037/#post-9065878
So sad. It really is a nice sculpt.
>>5304355
>final payment
How expensive are these things?
>>5305096
maybe try reading the FAQs linked right in the OP?
>>5305104
>$400
So you've all given up one having anyone over to your house?
>>5305096
My cheapest doll so far was $80 (resin).
My most expensive is $990 (resin).
There's a large spectrum of cost, depending on a fuckton of variables.
>>5305107
They're kinda cute but what's the appeal? Wouldn't real girls ever talk to you?
>>5305109
Most of the people in this thread are girls actually. It is the same at irl meetups/conventions for these dolls.
Although when it comes to the related /jp/ thread, your assessment may be accurate.
>>5305117
Anon speaks truth, pic related.
Also a collection of several $300-500 BJDs isn't actually any more eccentric budget-wise than about a hundred figmas or Transformers, which plenty of people on this board wouldnt bat an eye at.
>>5305109
Oh anon, I really need you to sit down now because this might be kinda shocking for you: most people in this thread (and hobby) are actually women.
If you want to troll the weird male dollfuckers go to /jp/.
Not to mention that your question is a bit silly on a toy board where some people spend hundreds on Transformers, Figmas and whatnot.
Okay I need to stain clean and I never see oxy-10 at Target, so if I go to Walmart tomorrow, what product can I be using to clean out some black markings left on my doll's head?
>>5305126
If it's vinyl then unfortunately you'll have to keep looking for something with that same active ingredient.
If it's resin just get a Mr. Clean magic eraser and it should take out most stains. (Magic eraser has worked on a few stains on my vinyls too, ftr; surface ones, especially on sealed parts.)
>>5305125
I thought I was talking to weird male dollfuckers, as for spending that much on other toys I don't really understand that either.
So are you all infertile or just fat? Do you want kids or just like dolls?
>>5305124
>LA Dolpa
That reminds me, did anyone ever figure out what the deal was with that confession about someone wearing a shower curtain to the event?
>>5305136
>she doesn't fuck her dolls
>>5305136
you sound angry anon, did a doll hurt you as a child
>>5305126
I thiiink anything with benzoyl peroxide (so quite a few acne products) will work, but check this thread for specifics:
http://www.dollfiedreams.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1887
But basically any acne product with that ingredient will probably do SOMETHING to reduce the stains.
>>5305136
Dude, chill. What's your fucking problem?
Want a doll but you are a poorfag who's afraid he will be mocked by his friends for it or what?
>>5305194
How could anyone spend so much on anything that is not needed to survive?
It's a luxury hobby, some people buy drugs and drink or regulary camp in front of an Apple store for the newest iPhone or were willing to cut a bitch when the first PS4s were in the stores.
We buy dolls, not much of a difference.
Regarding your question: it depends on the collector.
I personally like to paint them and to take pictures, I also earn money with accepting commissions so a good chunk of my hobby was financed by other people who collect too.
Others just like pretty things, some truly have some emotional hole to fill, others just like the thrill of hunting limited dolls.
Some are authors and just want their characters in some visible form, like people who paint their characters.
>>5305136
Most of us are pretty normal ladies, aged from late teens to middle age. A majority of us have significant others or spouses, good jobs and all around normal lives. On 4chan you're most likely to get the younger demographic who are down to earth and are bluntly honest. This is undoubtedly the best place to hang out and talk dolls.
Every niche hobby attracts freaks and you do get teenagers who are catty drama queens and have terrible taste but generally everyone's pretty normal. Even the men in this hobby are usually pretty cool guys. I personally know two dudes with dolls and one's a neckbeard and the other is a totally normal, hetero guy with a gf.
>>5305228
>Middle aged women on 4chan
Interesting though
>>5305194
you do know that designer shoes and purses are hundreds and hundreds of dollars, right? and its just a purse/shoe/pair of jeans made in a sweat shop in china, right?
a doll at least you can customize, some consider them works of art depending on who painted the face. they are poseable, fun to photograph, make clothes for, make wigs for, imo they're a better item to spend money on than an oversized $800 handbag.
>>5305341
Do you realize that houses are thousands and thousands of dollars? All they do is redirect rain and keep your shit from blowing away.
>Your order has been shipped
>>5305352
a house / roof over your head is a necessity for survival. dolls and handbags are luxury items. the money i have put aside for luxury items go towards dolls and not handbags/shoes.
>>5301585
This is really good to know! I snagged the suit that was on Mandarake from the last thread, (luckily), and it was shipped a few days ago. Getting feedback that it has a good chance at fitting makes me feel better about the impulse buy, to say the least. Now I just need to get him some shoes...
>>5305096
My cheapest doll was ~$340. Most expensive was $1300.
>>5305136
Believe it or not, the dollfags on 4chan are the "normies" of the doll community. Fat deluded fanfiction writers who make ~*OC*~ for their dolls are found on tumblr and other forums, but most of us here are young adults with decent jobs that allow us to support the hobby.
That isn't to say you won't find people in here who make dolls of their OCs - they just know how to behave and act like normal members of society.
>as for spending that much on other toys I don't really understand that either.
Are you just exploring /toy/ for funsies? Sometimes I go to /cgl/ for lulz and spend 3 hours there entertaining myself. If you're doing the same, welcome and enjoy the show! I hope you find the doll thread amusing.
>>5305109
I'm a girl so yes, real girls do talk to me! Two of my best friends I met through this hobby.
In all seriousness I drop absurd amounts of money on these stupid things because they're so damn cute and I love dressing up my dolls.
>>5305498
Back when I was majorly into vintage toys, some people on the forums started testing out acne cream under a UV lamp as a faster version of the old sunlight and cream trick. They usually used the true-sunlight craft lamps like the Ott ones. I've tested it once using a higher power nail gel lamp and it worked extremely well, as in some visible lifting of stains in the space of an hour. Obviously this is only for vinyl, and definitely don't put resin under UV lamps, but it does speed it along and is great if you live somewhere thats often cloudy this time of year.
Why not just use RemoveZit? It's specifically for removing stains on vinyl dolls.
>>5305760
it's for a dollfie dream.
I don't know which one to buy...
I thought Oxy was still a big brand.
>>5306054
Did you read the link that anon gave you above?
Look at the ingredients and look for one that has benzoyl peroxide, preferably 10% or above.
In fact I see one in your picture right now, it's that green arrow gel.
So, uh, what base body does this use? Those are some pretty weird looking knee joints.
>>5306174
Obitsu 21cm or 23cm i'd guess.
>>5306056
The $3.50 Up and UP brand pimple cream?
>>5306423
>The main problem about the doll is his neck , for some odd reason the neck is too big for the head so he looks like he got a goiter , Also the butt is way to big for his legs so he kinda looks like one of those kardashians... ( lol just a friendly warning )
This incredibly unfortunate hybrid Saint is up on ebay. Jesus fuck, my sides.
>>5300205
Spiders have eight legs and two pedipalps. The human arms on a human/spider hybrid doll SHOULD replace the pedipalps, but DC Elizabeth was just sculpted by someone who doesn't know shit about spiders or doesn't care. So I'm holding out for something LIKE that sculpt, but closer to realistic spider anatomy. I know a relatively realistic spider BJD currently exists (http://pets.evethecat.com/spiders/), so hopefully someone someday will make one with a humanoid torso and I can keep squirreling my money away until then.
Horray! DOD is back online!
>>5306629
as someone who never posted there before, would it be too late for me to get in now?
I have a MIGHTY NEED. I wish I could just buy that wig separately too.
>>5306642
Honestly I don't know. I don't post there myself, I just spend an absurd amount of time lurking and reading over old shit.
Lurk for awhile before trying to jump into conversation, that's for sure.
>>5306651
I can lurk, and was planning on doing so regardless of whether or not I ever feel the urge to post. I probably won't ever post.
I just want to read about all of the drama and not get involved in any of it.
>>5306655
It's worth joining and lurking then, yes. Especially in the terrible transactions section, since there are crappy buyers/sellers you don't necessarily see on FB, Tumblr or DOA.
>>5306642
While I'm kinda an active poster there I personally don't think it's worth posting as a new person.
DoD itself is pretty much dead and you have only one really active thread, and that is the Dear Diary one where people just chat.
Since they all know each other for a while now the topics can be pretty personal and they are seldom talking about dolls (many of them are not even really active anymore accept for having a close eye on the community).
As a new person you will need a lot of time till you are accepted in the group and they are all "no bullshit" type of people.
So if you are a jerk or act like a retard you will quickly be kicked out.
Itself all these people are very nice and helpful.
Better use DoD as a source for ye olde drama, just keep in mind that all is in the Archive and you need to dig around a bit.
>>5306520
how dumb do people have to be to not see that no head will work on the 5th motif body but the ones specifically made for it? just because both are on the dollshe site doesn't mean they are interchangeable. plus she got honeyskin. what a waste of money for a doll that will never look good.
>>5306877
I wouldn't even say DoD is no bullshit anymore. It's literally a tumblr level hugbox for middle age women who don't even care about the hobby anymore.
>>5307130
It depends, they are more like sleeping dragons.
If you poke them the wrong way they lash out.
Difference is that back then everything was mocked and pretty much everyone was fucked just for the sake of it (like 4chan does it).
But to be honest, most of the shit just got old and being a dick for the sake of being a dick is just not interesting anymore.
And back then things were mocked that nowadays are seen as "yeah, uh, seen a million times, no one cares".
Shitty looking dolls from yaoi girls won't bring people out of their holes again.
Not to mention that there are too many people lurking on DoD who then whine on some confession Tumblr about it.
Back then people at least whined with their name attached to it.
Oh lawdy, Kinda wonder how /jp/ feels about this.
>http://www.obitsu.co.jp/doll/150.html
>>5307232
I want one so I can dress it up in tacticool airsoft gear.
>>5307232
pretty sure some at /jp/ is already planning how to put an onahole on that thing.
>>5307355
I'm thinking at that size, they may try to buy some of the RealDoll attachments
TFW I don't own a warm lamp and have to resort to the sun.
>>5307508
UV lamps are pretty cheap, between $20-40
>>5307514
But then I'd have no use for it after I was done doing this!
Wish I could just her noggin near a heater or something if that sped things up.
>>5307524
I assume you like playing with your dolls, putting different outfits on them, etc?
You'll experience staining again, trust me on that one.
>>5307598
I don't do it too often lately and I've tried to use only light color clothes.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hgGPpb1MU
> she ruins the doll
why. And on television, too.
>>5307837
In what country is CN so hard-up for content that they're doing fluff pieces on local weebs
>>5307130
>tumblr level hugbox
It's more that they're all friends and thus tend to be relatively kind to each other? If you really want 24/7 hardcore doll wankery then you can just come and post here.
I'm glad DoD is back. I haven't been in a long while but am going to go and check in on them now.
>>5307837
uuurgh, at least find a customizer that knows what they are doing.
>>5307886
by being retarded. whoops
>>5307232
I honestly really want one to display dresses on, she seems way more fun than a traditional mannequin.
>>5307524
Its not the heat, its the UV rays that the lamps are useful for.
>>5307837
> sanding off the original paint job
who the fuck does that?
>>5308004
I thought with pullips you had to sand off the paint job? Like the factory paint won't come off using the regular methods.
>>5308004
It's a Pullip/Blythe quirk, sort of necessary with that material.
>>5307935
I own a traditional mannequin, she chills out in the living room. It's a pain in the ass to dress her but it's refreshing to be able to go down to Kmart or Target and buy clothes for her there. Sometimes I put my clothes on her and pin them to fit. She actually makes more of an impression with guests than the dolls. I've loved shop mannequins since I was small so it's also a kind of lifelong dream to own one.
All that being said though, it would be fun to have a life sized BJD that you could pose. I'm kind of eyeing up a Trinity for that reason, even though they're child-sized. Mannequins are actually a pain in the ass to get a hold of here in the boonies. Cost about as much as an MSD for a new one. The one I had my heart set on was second hand and a little grubby, but it wasn't anything a magic eraser couldn't fix.
>>5308225
Do you make her halloween costumes?
tfw you didn't think your doll could get any cuter but then you make her a new outfit and she gets 10000x cuter
>>5308495
Are the buttons functional?
>>5308517
I'm gonna eventually add functional button holes, but for now they're just for decoration because I'm lazy.
This poor doll on Mandarake. She must have been left somewhere where she caught the sun's reflection off the floor all day.
>>5308692
I want to take her home and give her some TLC.
Link? I've got a terrible weakness for damaged dolls.
>>5308406
No, I don't sew and I only got her after Halloween this year. I might dress her up seasonally though. Kinda short on funds at the moment because a certain company fucked me over with a limited doll that I had to have.
>>5308495
That's adorable. Do you have an etsy?
>>5308692
Make her into a Persona 4 doll.
Guys, can anyone identify the dolls used on these artworks?
This one that sparked off the discussion is pretty clearly a customized Roderich from the LLDT artist, but some of the others seem veeery familiar too.
Overlay gif:
http://i.imgur.com/suq8PR7.gif
This one looks like a Simply Divine Thomas:
http://saranaji.deviantart.com/art/last-drop-of-light-499289008
>>5308693
http://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1032431035&ref=list
30000 yen. It was a school head, too. If they hadn't ruined it, the head alone would be at least 20000. It practically has tan lines.
>>5307232
I don't exactly like the sculpt, but I really want one some day anyway
Head can be modded so it's fine, her nose pisses me off though
It's like a cross between a mannequin and an action figure
I could make cosplay outfits without cosplaying myself (not like I can't do the same with dolls, but you know, lifesize)
>>5307355
>>5307361
It looks kinda inconvenient to fuck
Plus the internal frame would be stopping anyone from making a hole big enough anyway, there's a lot of space but not in the hip area
>>5308784
This is so clearly a doll, though I'm not sure which one. Why do people get away with this in the community but "stealing" OC starts witch hunts.
>>5308839
Just put the vag further forward on the body, fuck closer to the tummy. Not like dollfuckers are gonna know any better.
>>5308861
my guess is a zaoll muse
>>5308861
the people who steal doll pics to paint over aren't part of the doll community, that's why people don't find them. when they ARE found, there usually IS a big stink about it, but nothing ever happens.
blue fairy actually posted on DOA the other day about an artist tracing their promo pics, but they didn't name the artist, just posted the comparison pics with a warning to people not to buy their art.
this is the pic they posted, but i can't find a bigger version of it anywhere. still, its clear that the artwork is traced.
>>5308793
Thanks, anon! I wonder if she'll stick around long enough for me to get paid...
Are there any bjds with ears like pic related? I only ask since I want to know if souldoll's new junia is my only option or not.
How do you all get inspiration for your doll's looks? I recently changed two of my doll's face ups and clothes and realized that I would like to get make overs for the rest, but I'm a little lost since they have had the same face up for close to... 8 years. Everytime I try to picture them differently I come up blank.
>>5309220
There are actually quite a few, anon, but they're limited. For the far right, Luts Yul Satrysse comes to mind. Soom Amber/Ai/Afi/Lig/Nodia. A couple of those derpy as fuck Kaye Wiggs dolls have those lop ears now. Souldoll Aehael has them, but also probably has a crater on her forehead to accommodate her horn. Impldoll has Karena, which isn't as awful as their other sculpts, but she has hair sculpting on her forehead.
The one of the left, you may look into finding bunny fantasy dolls, like Soom Flint/Hawa or Leeke/Pipos doll make/used to make optional ears that you could put on any doll for the lop bunny ears.
>>5309226
Browse flickr or places with a lot of doll pics. I also find a lot of inspo looking at art and general shit I'm interested in, like nebula or whatever.
What scale are you looking at getting?
>>5309258
>What scale are you looking at getting?
Something's wrong with my brain. That was directed to the reply above
>>5307508 , here
When should I scrape off the dried up cream and put a new coat?
>>5308784
Really reminds me of a LLT (La Legende de Temps) sculpt. Edria or Roderich?
>>5308861
While witch hunts over 'stealing OCs' is dumb as fuck, there's such a thing as using references in art.
>>5309638
It's not using references if you literally paint over a photo though. Did you even look at the examples posted?
>>5309650
Did you? Or are you the same anon who implied the use of a smudge tool when anyone who's ever used Sai would know they were obviously using a modified marker tool.
Is there something to be said about the fast that Saranaji seems to use a fuckton of dolls are reference? Eh, sure, if you're gonna be really fucking anal about it. You can call them a slave to references if it makes you happy.
But if you really look at the images closely (especially the Book cover vs the Julia Cross image, you'll see lots of differences that usually come about when you're looking at an image rather than directly tracing over it.
So go ahead and bitch about it. But that person's art is still pretty fair game until evidence on the contrary surfaces.
>>5309638
>>5309685
The cover image in >>5308784 looks different because the photo they traced over is a different one of the same mold, and the person who noticed it was an LLT Roderich couldn't find the exact photo. Granted, the Zaoll photo (>>5308861) could be someone using reference, since we don't have the original photo at hand to compare, but why would you even bother defending something like >>5308940? We aren't idiots, we're aware art ref exists and are not discussing that.
Were you around during the whole Mijne Schaatje debacle? This is clearly not the same thing as being inspired by or referring to photos of dolls (for example, the way the mangaka of Alichino was, who modeled a character on Luts El and was influenced by Luts and Volks in her style; or how Fishcake uses hers as models for paintings, pic related, and several other people on DoA do too). This instead is opening up photoshop, plopping a doll picture in, and playing with vectors, filters and layers for a couple hours.
>>5309685
>you don't use Sai and/or know the name of individual tools so your observations are irrelevant
anon plz
>>5309774
There's always somebody who shows up to defend talentless hacks and their plagiarism when it pops up. Always. It's like a rule of the internet.
>>5309774
>"different one of the same mold"
>"couldn't find the exact photo"
>uses an overlay of the photo to try and justify tracing!!!1!
kek
Never mentioned the Buefairy one, mate, since what was being discussed was the person who drew the LLT referenced elf, but thanks for projecting.
>>5309791
Not irrelevant, just ignorant. Like, ok, it's understandable when you aren't as familiar with tools or techniques to mistake one thing for another, but when you try to sound like you know what you're talking about, you deserve to be called out for your shit.
>>5309903
I like the way all the portraits done by Saranaji have detailed beatiful faces and disproportionate blurry bodies. Looks like they need to go ahead and use the whole doll photo as 'reference' :^)
Also you still didn't really comment on the bluefairy one.
>>5309296
Constantly. If the cream fully dries out, it isn't able to do its job.
>>5309774
Just to give a little info on the whole Mijne debacle
http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/tag/mijn-schatje/
Unfortunately the original site documenting each case of her photo theft us now gone, but the evidence was pretty damning.
>>5309903
You responded to "did you look at the images in this thread" with "did you?" implying that you were talking about/being dismissive of all of them, not just the LLT elf and Zaoll (and anon is right, the LLT elf is probably a traced photo -- what, you think it's just a coincidence that they suck at rendering hair and the other guy is clearly a filtered stock photo?)
It's also sort of pedantic to act as though using Sai is at all relevant to being against tracing art. I don't use Sai, but I'm pretty sure I don't know what half the tools in Manga Studio are called because I'm just familiar with their location and function instead, and I just don't see how that makes me ignorant at all.
>>5308940
I thought these looked familiar. I somehow ended up downloading them for my Sims game.
>>5309960
Mate, you need to look at more digipaints, because if that's your metric you'd be accusing a lot of artists of ~tracing~
A lot of artists get lazy after doing the face. Hell, even the internet's favorite digital artist Sakimichan is guilty of that.
And what's to comment on? The bluefairy ones are like early 2000s vector trace overs. It's completely not in the same league as all the other digital paintings everyone's bitching about.
>>5309985
See above. Also, it's not about knowing what the hell the tool is called, it's about claiming something was done via smudging and being so cocksure about it, when if you knew what those tools did, you would be able to tell that a specific tool is the reason it has that effect.
And honestly, the cover exhibits laziness more than it proves tracing. If everything were just photos painted over, even the headless dude should be rendered the same as the other guy's face.
>>5310144
I feel ike you're letting your personal fondness for the artist of the green painting get in the way of realizing that this is a really lazy thing to do, leaving aside people who do the completely different thing of using photos as reference.
>>5310144
>Sakimichan is popular and lazy so that makes it okay.
Speaking of doll photo theft, which doll is this? It looks kind of Angell Studio-ish to me. http://www.girlsgogames.com/game/crystals-fashion-time-lolita-doll
>>5310354
It looks like those generic korean girl games
>>5310144
>A lot of artists get lazy after doing the face. Hell, even the internet's favorite digital artist Sakimichan is guilty of that.
Sakimichan is also shit and overhyped.
She suffers heavily from same-face, her art is boring and generic and she puts zero thought into her concepts.
She just knows what sells well and uses it to squeeze more money out of her fans.
Definitely not the best example to excuse "artists get lazy sometimes", especially because even her faces are lazy.
References are important to use, but some people never learn how to correctly use them.
If I look at your picture and can immediately say what was your reference (especially when it was another piece of art) then something is wrong.
References are supposed to help you learning and guide you through doing something you are unfamiliar with, not some base for a copy.
However, I guess the reason this artist tends to it is the same why some people take own reference photos and then use it as their base layer: lack of time.
I know a lot of really good artists working for bigger companies that have to churn out big artworks in a short time frame, and they often ask someone to pose for them, take a photo and then work on top of it.
Saves time, looks good anyway and because it's your own photo you don't get in trouble.
However, she's not using her own photos, and the overlay is too good to be done by eye but still not a 100% copy.
I assume she took it as a base, put another layer on, started painting and then changed a few things to fit her image.
No smudge finger, just good ol' digital tracing.
>>5310144
Even if the example you posted is lazy it still looks like it was all drawn as one piece where as this
>>5308861
Looks like someone flat out traced a dolls face and then drew the body from scratch. It isn't just that the body is lazy it's almost in a completely different style than the face. The hair line is too low and slopilly done and the whole thing is a porportianal mess. It is clearly a trace job.
>>5310419
Pretty much this. It's fine to take your own photos and trace them if that's what want but it's not ok to take others photos and trace them. I have no idea why that's so hard for "its not a smudge tool!!" Anon to understand.
>>5310354
It reminds me of Volks Ami Ayase, but I'm sure there's a better match. I sometimes have difficulty telling the difference between Volks and AS headsculpts because many are so similar.
After 2 straight weeks of browsing Mandarake I finally picked out an outfit for one of my DDs (the one who is most neglected in terms of clothing to wear). I gave up on waiting for a restock on DD clothing from VolksUSA. Been checking for a solid month and they haven't gotten anything new in.
Ugh I cant wait to see this doll in a new outfit for the first time in over a year!
I'm looking for this doll as a Christmas present but I can't seem to find any in Europe for a fair price.
Can anyone help me?
>>5310631
It's definitely not Ami Ayase (I keep thinking it's an AS too) but I think the "smiley" Volks sculpts (like Ami, Renee, SD F40, MSD F21, et cetera) really influenced AS' aesthetic.
I don't really think it matters in this case, dollmakers doing doll traces doesn't piss me off as much as people who are professional artists or making $$$ of their stuff, like how Mijn Schatje had actual gallery shows and sold pieces for thousands of dollars.
>>5310752
I bought mine for $32 or so shipped on Ebay but I'm in the US. Maybe if you found someone in the US who'd be willing to ship to Europe it'd be cheaper?
Souldoll... we gotta talk. This looks like someone's Resinsoul/Early Dollzone representation of the dude of the same name.
Do they even know what they're doing?
>>5311073
Does souldoll use a shit ton of photos hope to make their dolls look good? Because I swear everytime I see a blank one up for sale it isn't pretty at all even if it's a sculpt I thought was nice on their site.
>>5311073
Is it me or does the mouth look crooked?
>>5310986
I like to collect the Amiami cards too.
>>5311084
It's the shitty lighting they used for that shot.
>>5311082
They have a, uuh, special aesthetic.
I would never buy one of their dolls without having seen pictures of it blank before. And even then I'd rather wait for owner pictures.
>>5311073
I think it's just named that because it's a Christmas/Angel-themed doll and they somehow got the impression Criss was an acceptable way to spell that (maybe, yes, because of the celebrity). Someone should, uh, tell them. It's not as embarassing as Impldoll Penis or IOS Anus, but I don't think they would want to be doing that.
>>5311082
Some of their sculpts are very nice, but others are really asymmetrical (honestly even the nice ones are noticeably asymmetrical; I wonder if their sculptor doesn't work with a mirror?); blank photos are a must for them.
>>5311213
Also, here, for the uninitiated.
Now renamed Colin.
did alquaev just get away with selling a recast?
https://denofangels.com/threads/alquaev.692595/page-2#post-11776066
>>5311225
I think she's saying Paypal declined the buyer's claim(s). Sucks for the people she sold to; l I guess they would have to convince Paypal themselves that the dolls are counterfeit (which I'm not sure how they'd do shorty of a lengthy, slow email exchange with Paypal's less than great people)
I wouldn't say she's gotten away with it; the community at large seems to be following this (judging by how many DoA likes are on the mod posts in the thread) and she'll probably be MP banned very soon.
>>5311225
her repeated use of the term "scamming" is driving me insane because she is the fucking scammer. if i was aliv or vincent_twilight i'd be absolutely ripshit
>>5311225
Argh, I noticed this too. And somehow this ditz doesn't seem to know the implications of her being paged to begin with. I'm still not sure they were recasts, but she's a special kind of retard to continue to uphold her argument that everything is "as delivered from Soom".
>>5311236
Seriously, every post has been the same copy/paste bullshit. I am 100% glad I didn't spring for that Amber head, as that awful apoxie sculpt on the back of the ear was not shown or disclosed. I am legit curious about what that awful paintjob/sharpie was.
>I ended up buying a legit Amber for a non-rape price
>feelsgoodman
>>5311243
> I'm still not sure they were recasts
They've got to be. The Chalco I'm pretty sure is a recast, since Alik's photo of the word "Chalco" written on the inside looks EXACTLY like how a recast one would look; the written name is one of the more shallow indents on the inside of the head so it easily loses detail when recast. Dunno about the Amber, we can see fuckall inside of its head, but what are the chances she has a recast Chalco with a bad certificate and a legit Amber with an also bad certificate.
Jesus, just that undisclosed ear mod without all of this other nonsense would be grounds for negative feedback.
>>5311253
Holy fucking fuck shit, Alik mentioned alquaev's posts on the Soom's Q+A. What a horrible customer to work with.
THERE ARE SIX. FUCKING. PAGES. OF ALQUAEV'S SHIT. WTF.
>>5311338
Holy shit that's insane. I mean she deserves a store ban for that, I'm assuming the people she did buisiness with on DoA hadn't seen that.
>>5311338
HAHAHAHAHA OH MY SHIT
That's hilarious. I mean I feel bad for soom having to deal with her but that is just some top tier batshit-craziness.
>>5311338
...is she posting on the wrong board?
None of them have responses, and I find it hard to believe that during all that time nobody else started a topic besides her.
Soom has an old and abandoned Q&A board and I'm just wondering if she just sat there repeatedly posting on that one like an oblivious moron and Soom never even noticed.
>>5311383
I had to look back, since her last post was the 16th this month, and she is on the right one. I think I had selected the search option to search for posts by ID.
>>5311399
Ah, that explains it.
>>5309226
To me it would depend on whether or not you are like me and pretend that they have personalities or stories. I really like that element of make-believe and it's what fuels my ideas for which clothes to look for and which wigs and accessories.
If you're not into that, I get a lot of my other inspiration from a website called colourlovers, which has a lot of color palettes on it. I get tons of ideas just from color combinations alone. Maybe that will help you! I wish you luck!
I'd LOVE these doll drawings if the artists had their own dolls and were drawing them from life rather than tracing over others' photos. Does anyone here ever draw their dolls?
>>5311338
does she not understand that it takes months for a doll to be made and sent? wtf? even an outfit takes like a month.
also she doesn't look like she understands how the Q&A works, sometimes it takes a day or two for soom to answer a question, yet she is spamming every other day like she isn't even waiting for an answer.
>>5311498
Tried once but I only own Iplehouse and I'm not good with realism.
AAAAH What happened to Lumedoll site?!
>>5311515
*tinfoil hat* Maybe that's why Victoria left the Soom Q&A board...
>>5308940
the artist is kaoruhasegawaartworks btw. i always knew their art resembled bluefairy bjds but i thought it was just a coincidence.
Alquaev is banhammered.
Guess it's over, shame nobody seems to be able to get their money back.
>>5312145
i wonder if vince_twilight even tried
>>5312166
They said they were going to try and do it via PM which is why they didn't make any more posts in the thread. Maybe their paypal claim actually went through though? Since alquaev didn't mention it, and the reason Alik's didn't work was from doing a longish layaway.
Who knows.
>>5312172
she just left neutral feedback so i dont think she did much
i wonder if the mods care if she posts it or not after everything cause its most likely a recast too
> that feel when one of your doll bodies is so old that the new head you ordered doesn't match color
welp, time for a new body I suppose.
>>5312145
Thank fuck Alqueef got b&. I kind of want to see how fucking batshit they are in real life, or if they're on other board.
>>5312172
Vince_twilight paid through layaway too, iirc. It was probably very short, seeing as they got the head from Russia in a short span.
>>5312482
That's such an annoying part of the hobby, especially if you were building the doll over time.
>>5301138
how do they get them to stand like this?! I need to know
>>5312654
Stands and photoshop.
They take a picture of the scene without the doll, then take one with the doll and erase the stand.
>>5305194
>>5312665
I need to learn how to use PS one day! dern it
>>5312649
I'm specially annoyed by it because some smaller artists make their resins match hard to get bodies, like dollshe's.
>>5312176
> get gypped with a recast
> leaves neutral feedback
jesus christ why are doll people so fucking beta?
>>5312737
Not all of them are but every single time there's a bad transaction involving multiple people it seems like at least one of them is completely willing to forgive and forget and it's bizarre.
>>5312482
Blush the neck to match? Or commission a blush from someone that owns an airbrush and has experience with this (might be a pain, especially if you have to dismantle your doll to mail the neck/torso, but it's got to be less effort than buying a new body.)
How do these look on something like Shinki or the Clover figure from Daibadai
>>5308793
She might not be that bad. One of the Mandarake photographers tends to shoot EVERYTHING really yellow. I have seen this on other dolls too that were way too new to be so yellowed.
>>5313144
The jumper looks great on both, but the blouse's sleeves are a little long for a shinki (Nothing major at all, they just hit a bit down the hand instead of stopping at the wrist) and Polynian shoulders are a bit high, so they always look like they're in a state of perpetual shrugging when they wear anything with sleeves.
Just grabbed the new Assault Lily and she has jointed wrists. Anyone know is Azone plans to sell the new hands separately like with their old, unjointed hands?
Elfgutz is such a pretentious, obnoxious cunt. Can't she just permanently defect to the reborn hobby or something?
>>5314040
oh lord. For some dumb reason I was looking up shit like that at work, and she'd fit in with some of the ~edgy~ customs they do.
>>5314056
...there are edgy custom reborns?
If you have links I would love to see them as I have had a shitty day.
>>5314064
Personally, I prefer the funny little monkey babies.
>>5314074
this causes me pain, but it is a good pain
I can perhaps understand the appeal of having relatively lifelike baby dolls, but I cannot understand the appeal of having monster baby dolls.
>>5314083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEsF9j6orZA
The Reborn community is next level.
This new Mirodoll "artist" head looks like absolute shit.
>>5314136
It looks like a horribly modded Obitsu Gretel head.
Like I can't sculpt for shit, but this looks like babby's first BJD head.
>>5314115
>waiting for the inevitable "Can I fuck it?" shitpost
>>5314115
I have so many questions that need answering and I just feel in my heart that there will never be answers to any of them
>fat arms on the woman making the video
>feeding an infant cheetos or any other junk food
>>5314115
On a fundamental level it's pretty weird that we own dolls and shit. But there is always -always- someone who takes that shit too far.
>family friend is struggling financially
>she owns a fuckton of reborns
>also has boxes and boxes of clothes and toys for them
>she keeps buying expensive cribs and prams (most real kids don't even get ones that expensive)
>this lady makes her elderly MIL come to her house and do her ironing
>MIL is frail and has severe health issues
>one day she falls whilst at the house alone
>she manages to call an ambulance
>paramedics rock up to take her to hospital
>they try to take all the reborns with them, thinking they're actual babies
>>5314183
Kek
>>5314183
is she a hoarder?
>>5314189
Just a collector. I think growing up poor and the fact that her kids moved away and dropped contact were a big driving force behind it. She also has Cherished Teddies and Troll Dolls. I know that she can/does let go of things which is something hoarders struggle with.
>>5314183
Wait, haha, what? That's hilarious. Although I'm not sure I understand. Like...they just saw a couple and thought "oh no a few unconscious babies?!" and started to pick them up before realizing they weren't real, right? And weren't actually loading dozens of reborns into an ambulance? The former I can see, the latter just confuses me.
>>5314201
conceivably they could have pushed them in the strollers if they thought they were sleeping
>>5314201
It went more like this:
>MIL collapses but manages to get to the phone near the front door
>paramedics walk in and she's the first thing they see, there's no cribs/prams immediately near her
>they start to treat her
>paramedics then notice the multiple cribs and can see from a distance that there's bodies in them
>they don't get up close because they're still treating her
>they then start asking her if there's someone close by that can care for the babies
>she keeps trying to tell them that it's fine
>they think she's in shock and confused after the fall, surely a grandma would want someone to care for the babies?!?!
>they get her stable and go over to check
>once they're close enough they realize they're fake
I can't blame them, really. She was the patient they were called to assist and from a distance those Reborns are freakishly real.
>>5314202
Those reborns are just freakish point blank.
I understand there's a niche to fill but babies in general when they look that young creep me out. Mum and I went to a craft convention once and there was a whole both of them in various expressions from crying to laughing and sleeping, even one pooping and I just...*shudders*
>>5314240
I never understood why so many people are into babies, no matter if Reborn or not, or other dolls resembling children that constantly cry.
My grandmother had several huge paintings across her house of crying children.
Why?!
And on the sofa you had dolls that cried too.
I know she loved children and thought it was cute, but still.
I just don't get why anybody would like that and call it cute.
I don't even like children and it still irks the fuck out of me.
To me it either seems like some really awful fetish or downright sadism.
>>5314115
Reborns get birth defects?
>>5314266
I know it's hard to belive anon, but some people really like babies.
>I know she loved children and thought it was cute, but still.
Then you know why she liked them? Why is it so hard for people to imagine why others like something they don't. I don't like kids either but I'm not fucking flabbergasted by those that do.
>>5314396
Uh, did you read the part about the crying?
I didn't mind the dolls or the paintings of children, I thought it was creepy that they were crying.
There is nothing nice and cute about crying children.
Children don't cry with distorted faces because thev have a good time and are happy usually.
Why would you like to have a dozen of faces in you apartment showing sad children looking like they are in pain?
I'm not into children, this is true, but the thing that disturbs me how many people are into CRYING children figures, paintings, dolls and whatnot.
Laughing, smiling and such is okay, but why the crying?
>>5314396
See it like that, swap the word babies for anything else...women, cute little animals.
Would you still say "well, uh, some people just like women?" when I say I think it's creepy to have a house full of pictures of women crying and looking like they are in pain?
Or "some people just like little puppies" when it's figures of puppies looking like they were kicked in the stomach?
>>5314266
>>5314400
>>5314410
Seems like someone is into crying children.
>>5314403
I mean, that's different, babies cry as a routine activity whereas adult women do not routi nely grimace in suffering. Come on, anon, don't be obtuse.
>>5314437
And older children?
Even if it's a routine activity they still don't do it because they feel pleasant.
>>5314440
??? No, older children not as much, but isn't this about crying reborns and paintings of babies?
>>5314446
That's why I said "children" all the time and not just babies.
Also the "no matter if reborn or not", because among dolls and figures showing children you also have a lot of crying ones, even non-baby ones.
>>5314115
What in the hell did I just watch?
>>5314464
Maybe the crying images remind them of comforting their real children when they were little? Or maybe it brings out their maternal instinct and need to protect?
The point I was making anon, is that collecting bjds is fucking weird to most non collectors and I think the 'well at least I'm into regular dolls on not those creepy lesser dolls!' Attitude needs to fuck off in this hobby. Nobody has to justify what they like unless it's physically harming others.
>>5314516
I get the feeling you more than once had someone telling you "at least I'm not doing thing you do".
Stop getting so defensive because I don't understand how someone could find something cute that looks like it's in pain.
>>5314136
>>5314115
10/10 body horror.
>>5314530
i agree with you anon. liking babies is fine and understandable. babies can be cute. but liking CRYING babies, and crying children, and having paintings and dolls of miserable, screaming children all around you, is disturbing.
>>5314530
Just so you know, I'm the person who posted >>5314437 and >>5314446, but not >>5314516 or earlier posts, so if you think that anon sounds defensive it might be because you're ascribing more replies to them then they actual made. Multiple people think you're being silly, anon.
>>5314136
Did they actually get worse at sculpting heads? I mean at least the previous ones weren't...microencephalic.
>>5313353
Anyone know? Or are these more /jp/'s or even /a/'s domain? I'd definitely hunt down all the old Lilies if I can replace their bodies with the new ones.
>>5314613
I can't help but I know there are several people who visit this thread and own Assault Lilies or bodies with the same line so hopefully one of them will have an answer. /jp/ is not a great deal of help with technical issues or upcoming release questions, in my experience.
>>5314613
As the other anon said, there are a few people who own AL's here so they might chime in. I recommend asking /a/'s buyfag thread. You will probably get a response faster over there. If you do get an answer, report back to us - maybe someone else will come along with the same question and then we can actually help them.
>>5314679
No, Anus was by IOS (Immortality of Soul) and actually a rather nice sculpt but jesus christ it yielded one of the funniest DoA (or was it DoD? But there was a lot of joking on DoA too) threads of all time. "What color should I blush my Anus, guys???"
IOS renamed it Anos after a while.
How often do you guys to go meetups? All the ones my local group hosts are at busy restaurants and it just makes me uneasy. Tables full of dolls next to food in a crowded room? Nah.
>>5314613
I'll probably order that one. She's the first in the series I like and I kinda got the 1/12 bug ever since I got a bunch of Shinkis anyway.
