Why do the bad guys always have bong accents?
As a bong myself I find this deeply offensive.
It's because it gives a level of sophistication to the villain.
Brits are stereotyped as posh, educated, and upper class type individuals so the accent tells most people that the villain is a cut above the common rabble of criminals and is someone not to be underestimated or approached without a healthy dose of respect for the potentially complex and perfectly executed ass-wooping he may deliver.
>>47738286
because bongs are all creepy weirdos
l for one prefer the Australian accent for villians
>get tha fuck outa my dungeon ya stupid cunt
>crikey that fukin hurt u prick
>what the fuck is a bull-frog? l woulda called it a chazwozzer
>>47738286
Because bad guys with Arab, Nigerian and Pavement Ape accents are racist.
Most other accents are goofy and non-threatening.
>>47738286
don't bongs have like 12 different accents?
>>47738326
It's also just sexy as shit and so doesn't need much excuse to include on a central character.
I don't know what you're talking about, all my villains are Seto Kaiba
>>47738345
We've got an obscene amount of accents once you leave south-east england. Then again, most euro countries have that, it's just not that noticeable to foreigners.
Try being Russian OP. My people have been the world's orcs for the last 80 years. At least the muslims are the world's goblins..
>>47738286
German here, tell me about it
>>47738331
>crikey that fukin hurt u prick
Confirmed for never having met an Australian.
Australian's don't vocalize getting hurt. They just drink harder, party harder and beat their wives harder to compensate.
>>47738326
By the same token, the perfect Sergeant has a working class accent; sophisticated, yet also a man of the people.
>>47738286
Because canadian accents would sound retarded.
>>47738326
>Brits are stereotyped as posh, educated, and upper class type individuals
Explain Vinnie Jones then.
>>47738286
>the french, why?
>>47738286
Because bongs were the first people to actually achieve world domination. Take it as a compliment.
>>47738650
It's a valid question.
>>47738410
You have hot women. People are just jealous of you.
>>47738943
On balance between the fucked economy, crippling rates of heroin and alcohol abuse and one of the worst HIV transmission rates in the developed world, versus the average hotness of the average slav woman...
I'm inclined to say not that jealous of the average Russian.
>>47738286
Because we're the best at what we do, and what we do isn't very nice
>>47738410
>Russian Orcs
Omg this makes so much more sense than "green niggers" or "muh noble savages".
>>47738286
America's daddy issues
>>47738286
Never had a villain I used a British accent for.
There was a villain from not!Britain in my group, but I wasn't the DM at the time.
>>47738410
Russians are the hobgoblins, blacks are the orcs, and muslims are the undead
>>47738326
>Brits are stereotyped as posh, educated, and upper class type individuals
Not by people that have a lot of contact with them though
>>47739212
u wot m8?
>>47738286
Because Bongs actually were the evil invaders for like half the world.
>>47739212
I'll bash yer fookin' 'ed in, m8, swer on me fookin' gorillas.
>>47739232
Well yeah, like that.
Cheap holidays have destroyed your reputation m8
>>47738286
At least English accents are considered sexy.
If I don't disguise my accent, everything thinks I'm making an impression of Dracula.
>>47739241
...Yeah, the Canary Islands have kind of fucked our national reputation over the last thirty years haven't they?
So where did the term "britbong" even come from? Do brits love bongs or something?
>>47739268
Our superior British timekeeping system revolves around the ringing of Big Ben, counting the number of bongs on our fingers as it peals out.
>>47739268
A meme about no one in England having a watch and instead relying on Big Ben. It also included the supposition that based on this no one knew the word ''clock'' and referred to time instead based on the number of bongs Big Ben made
>>47739212
>people stereotype others that they have little contact with
Wowey zowey Batman!
>>47739268
/pol/ I think. Because we're overrun with forrins or something.
>tfw town is 97% white and an absolute shithole
>>47739265
Other Spanish tourist traps, Greece and Amsterdam did not help either.
Now I imagine Brits being 90% lower class scum, 9% top lads and 1% educated, upper class
>>47739301
That's everybody though
>>47739294
Yep the usual "everywhere in the UK is defined by London idiots" bullshit.
>>47739029
on the other hand beating the shit out of degenerate sjws is encouraged in russia, so there are bright sides
>>47739301
>Other Spanish tourist traps, Greece and Amsterdam did not help either.
The rest of Holland is actually hella chill. I spent a week in Delft in a flat with a toyshop on the bottom floor. They had a fucking huge boardgame section and I came THIS close to buying TI3 there.
You can't actually see my fingers but I am holding them very close. They are THIS close.
They're also the only european country that does Ice Tea the way I like. I tried getting it over here but it just doesn't exist. I can get fucking Mountain Dew Whiteout but I can't get my goddamn Ice Tea.
>>47739306
Nah the class divide isn't that big on the continent, or maybe we're better at isolating our scum.
>>47739296
The stereotype has become quite the opposite to the people that interact with them
>>47739087
>tfw you will never go on a WAAAAAAAAAAAGH against America
>>47738286
Because colonials still didn't get over the fact they are colonials
>>47739333
I like living in a colony. It shouldn't be a big thing, but the international camaraderie is nice when you start going abroad.
>>47738286
Because we never shook the Bond-villain stereotype.
And because people from the U.S are instinctively unsettled by people who speak with foreign accents and a post-third grade vocabulary.
>>47738943
Eastern Europeans suffer the Babushka curse though - phenomenal until around about 35, then overnight metamorphosis into the Baba Yaga.
>Why do the bad guys always have bong accents?
Because americans bankroll most "hollywood" films, and half of them are obsessed with the evil british empire that they defeated for their freedumbs...
Even if Hollywood is actually shepperton, or pinewood, England, for 90% of major films.
>>47738286
Because Alan Rickman needed work
>>47738286
>ctrl+f = no results
Seriously, /tg/?
OP it is because many of the greatest villains have been British, some the greatest heros mistaken for villains have been British, some amazingly misanthropic heros have been British, and all of them have been one man.R.I.P. Alan Rickman
>>47739494
Ah, close but no cigar. British actors are/were relatively cheap etc. Moff Tarkin. Most were classically trained too hence get the Shakespearean villian characters.
>>47739507
Not anymore he doesn't.Rickman Hive mind. Apparently it took me 8minutes to get and post that pic.
>>47739372
>Bond Villain
You what? Hardly any of the Bond Villains are British.
>>47739599
>need-ed work
Nevermind.
I'll be going to sleep now.
>>47738286
Because some of us like having Tim Curry as a villain that sexually confuses the heroes.
>>47739598
I read an interesting theory that one of the reasons Hollywood taps Brits for leading men these days is that most young British actors have at least some stage training and drama schooling, whereas most young American actors have been child actors who were originally chosen because they looked cute. "Interesting" looking Brits who can act reasonably well competing against ex-Disney channel people.
Don't know how true that is, mind you.
>>47739598
Pretty much everyone on the Empire's side in the first Star Wars films were regulars from British TV for exactly this reason. Heck, Admiral Piett (Kenneth Colley) is still working!
I actually don't mind all too much, atleast we're portrayed as somewhat intelligent, it's not a bad stereotype.
As an englishmen I see us as the ratfolk of the world as is, cunning, varying in size, and ultimately just constantly involved in something, but that doesn't mean we're bad necessarily.
>>47739569
>>47739507
>>47739599
>>47738345
A metric fucktonne, and some of them don't even make sense to other Brits.
>>47738410
>Goblins
They fucking wish.
>>47738345
Don't Murrikans have like 12 as well?
>>47739767
new york city probably has more than twelve
>>47739767
More than that if you're including dialects.
>>47739727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5Ng3fG1u4Xg#t=26
As someone who worked in a callcentre for a while: fucking glaswegians.
>>47739767
We have over 127 currently. thats not including slight but possibly seperate variants as that would just compound the issue. It actually can lead to educational issues as in some area's they have to hire specific teachers able to understand these accents and also have an accent understood by the kids. This is a big(er than the average elsewhere) problem in the applachians, lousiana, and Mississippi. Beyond that new york slightly suffers from this as the anon mentioned above theres around 14 "white" accents alone and some get hard to understand without exposure and then there's all the immigrants and ebonic accents rolling around that compound that issue. Minneapolis actually had a huge ebonics issue for a while and then when they tried to group up inner city blacks with teachers who can understand them (majority of them were black though this is "coincidental") this lead to people being called racist left, right, and center and a lead to kids being shoved on 2-3 hour bus rides to predominantly white schools for proper racial equality. This actually turned kids who were excelling as B+ average students into D-F students very quickly due to being taken from friends, familiar enviroments, and people who didn't have a protolanguage barrier to deal with.
I suppose its what you get with a mixing pot like us.
>>47738286
>>47738286
Because you guys ARE evil.
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13226895_1784419351786509_4058651306443038942_n.jpg?oh=90f7bc8e18f00ecf99921d2b9b074530&oe=580DE5E2
>>47739835
This is the same everywhere though.
I dread to think what somewhere like India is like where they've had a good couple of thousand years to diverge linguistically.
>>47738286
Because they want them to sound like aristocracy, or otherwise "high class". Americans don't (admit that they) have a historical class like that.
The bad guys are rarely who >>47739212 is talking about.As a soft, posh Southerner with exactly the right accent, I have mixed feelings about this.
>>47739878
The main issue is thats "just" the accents. thats not counting dialects or variants. Theres places (again applachia) where shits almost an entirely different language. Shitty ex:You could say the word "flapjack" at a dinner hoping for pancakes and now you got a fight on your hands cause you insulted the waiter.
>>47739808
As a Glaswegian, I wholeheartedly agree. I speak with a relatively-refined Scottish TV presenter voice just to be understood, and people are constantly unable to understand me.
When I go full Weegie, its like I just ahit in my hands in front of them.
>>47740143
Like I *shit* in my hands. Fucking autocorrect.
And hey, at least you guys get refined villains - we're either Dwarves or violent psychopaths.
>>47740158
You could use one of those stephen hawking voice modulators, y'know? Has to be cheaper than voice and accent lessons.
>>47740158
>And hey, at least you guys get refined villains - we're either Dwarves or violent psychopaths.
Now to be fair...My parents are from Birmingham and we live in Norfolk. We all work very hard to speak like Radio 4 announcers so as not to let the stupidest possible accent out.
>>47740142
Good example. Here's a flapjack for you.
>>47739650
It's not gay if it's Tim Curry.
>>47738286
Because everybody blames us for everything, and yet when the shit hits the fan they still expect us to help them wipe their arses.
Voting Out btw.
>>47740143
To be fair, there is nothing harder to understand than an enraged Glaswegian.
>>47738286
Look within yourself, OP. You know the truth: You're evil.
Embrace your villainous destiny!
>>47740308
Thats not a flapjack you uncultured piece of shit! git outta muh ber!
>>47740376
Also people are extremely hostile when you call pop something else. "what kinda coke you want?" "I don't want coke i want sprite." "Yeah, coke. What flavor?"
>>47738476
At least you got badass villains most of the time.
France only got effeminate and prissy noblemen whose only line of text is "honhonhon".
>>47740417
To be fair, French men are comic relief in many films.
>>47740417
At first i read that as the ojou laugh "ohohoho". Almost had another reason to hate france.
>>47740450
They DO exist to be laughed at. The irony being they used to be the greatest of warmongers.
>>47738286
Because when America isn't demonising Russia, Japan or the Middle East, they are still bitter they once were British themselves.
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>>47740455
>Almost had another reason to hate france.
Because France is overrepresented among Best Girls?
>>47740717
Who is that?
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>>47740759
Charlotte from Infinite
>>47740810
InfiniteFree Worlds League
>>47738286
Because action movies are made for illiterate trash that enjoys seeing those who are cultivated depicted as villains.
... It's just me or I just sounded completely fedora wearing autistic manchild?
>>47738286
Because it's a way to give the villain an accent while still having them be intelligible, just imagine if most villains had a thick Scottish or Sooth Efrican accent.
>>47740717
Nah. 7 year old sis almost got kidnapped over there once and everyone just watched it happen but when the big bad american came in to stop it suddenly cellphones out and everyones dialing 112. Even had the cops accuse me of being the kidnapper and the other guys being her guardians, with our fucking passports in hand. I've talked with others back then and apparently its not as uncommon as you'd think. Mind you this was 12 years ago but grown ass men hitting on and stalking a child out in the open is fucking horrible and trying to stop them in the act and getting cops accusing me of kidnapping even with all the legal paperwork in hand is worse.
I've met like 40 people with similar stories just for france.
As an american, I want more with American accents. Sounding like this asshole, only with slightly less disjointed voice-acting. I need more villains who are just crazy motherfuckers instead of master-manipulator types.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS6J9fdL730
>>47739798
Cool map, bro.
>>47739047
EU RIP
Proof that bongs are villains if they want to kill the EU.
>>47741179
French Muslims, probably. Those assholes have no morals when it comes to women/girls.
>>47741179
>I will find you, and I will kill you
Hows it going Liam Neeson?
>>47740393
I call it soda but calling it coke is something only the savages in the south do
>>47739569
>R.I.P. Alan Rickman
He was a feminist so fuck off.
>>47742439
Sprinkles are multicolored, jimmies are chocolate, fuck off back to Cali!
>>47742462
I use sprinkles for both cause calling them jimmies makes you sound retarded
I'm also not too fond of the term "flapjacks" for pancakes
>>47738286
I blame (((Hollywood)))
>>47738625
>stereotyped
>>47738346
>It's also just sexy as shit
I need subtitles for it the same way I need subtitles for nigger-speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGYJzzZ9wqQ
>>47738349
>not Mokuba
level up your shit m88
>>47740043
>Americans don't (admit that they) have a historical class like that.
American Aristocracy didn't have the same level of societal control and infiltration that European Aristocracy did, and it was largely destroyed (most specifically the Southern Aristocracy) post-Civil War. The remnants today exist in many wealthy landowners and high-class families, but they still don't wield the cultural power they once did in our system.
At least, this is compared to the landed elite of Europe, which had actual hereditary titles and social enforcement mechanisms that enforced their position above others in their society.
>>47738286
>conquered most of the known world through bloody warfare
>traded slaves
>massacred innocents
>enforced english culture on people who did not want it
>taught america how to do all of the above
>not the bad guys
>>47743031
>>taught america how to do all of the above
You forgot the part where they then yelled at America for doing everything they taught them when it was no longer profitable for Britain to do it.
For real though, the shit GB pulled in South Africa makes American slavery look tame.
>>47743031
right, they're the good guys
>>47741179
>7 year old sis
>Mind you this was 12 years ago
So she's 19 now? Pic?
>>47743088
>single-handedly fucking up an entire continent so thoroughly it will likely never modernize
>Single-handedly dividing up the a region so poorly that it has created permanent strife in the region
>Single-handedly injecting an entire ethnic group into one of the holiest regions of all Abrahamic religions, kicking out the original residents, and then backing the new guys in foreign policy
>Single-handedly got an entire continent hooked on drugs just so they could get tea for cheap
>"Good guys"
>>47738286
>Be mexifag who travels legally for buzzinezz reasons
>it's hip now to hate mexifags even for things that colombians, ecuatorians and salvadorians do.
>In their defense, people who hadn't had contact with your mates are prone to confuse places.
>Trump says that most wetbacks are rapists and drug dealers.
>A lot of them are poorfags sometimes in the run from rapists and drug dealers themselves, only to fall in the same shitty places again.
>Suddenly, for some reason, I as a lone citizen am responsible for everything that our corrupt government and narcos do (first one put there by muricanint, second ones trained by them [maybe that sounds familiar]). I didn't vote for Peña and I certainly don't want Palma to be free, thank you.
>I'd just like those pieces of shit to die and stop ruining it for everybody else, half of my family had altercates with the gvmnt at some level and or narcos and had to defend themselves at some point without help from army or police, sometimes (like my great2grandpa) against the army themselves.
>Every generation so far, we win somehow (fail is death) but lose a lot of honestly gained wealth in the process, and we have to rebuild. I don't mind middle class but this is bullshit.
>A lot of beaners considering armed revolution after what happened to Mireles in Michoacan.
>Most of the population won't do it because they're skeptic of anything that entails change.
>Peñabots everywhere that are desperate for money working as spies.
>/tg/ just to chill and talk about weapons and armor, make some CYOA builds, and enjoy fantastic posts (or try to make them) every once in a while.
>There's a metalhead from my old table posting that doesn't know that I'm here. I plan to reveal soon and reunite the old guard for AD&D.
>Suddenly the worse of /pol/, sometimes for a full thread, and mods won't do anything about it.
Respectable sir / madam :
Whatever your condition may be, take comfort in the fact that being a bong is respectable these days.
>>47743257
>Single-handedly got an entire continent hooked on drugs just so they could get tea for cheap
What I really, really hate about Brits is how they never, ever fucking admitted Opium Wars not only as petty imperialism, but actually being a cartel fighting with a state to enforce their own fucking merchandise and topple the government that didn't want buy drugs. And it was considered fucked up back in the 19th century, so it's not our modern sentiment or anything.
>>47743257
Ignorant pleb here - care to describe each of those? Because they are quite vague for me. Not baiting, seriously asking for some explaination. You can even call it spoon-feeding if you need, but please tell more
>>47743257
Yep. Is there a problem?
>>47742502
>calling them jimmies
I thought that was one specific area in the NE or something
You know, it would be nice for once if people stopped pretending the Arab slavers never existed and acknowledged the fact Britain fought hard against the slave trade for the best part of 100 years after they banned it.
But you know invading an area, slaughtering the locals to prove a point, selling guns to chiefs so they will sell you their defeated rivals and all that is fine unless a white person does it.
Hell everyone ignores the millions of white Europeans who were enslaved too. Its hypocritical racist bullshit.
>>47743448
I've got a short reply to you. Four words, really:
Opium Wars, Bengal, Australia
I'm still waiting for Brits to admit how incredibly hard they've fucked up. And I know damn well they will never do.
So we are sooo fucking glad Brits fought after slave traders after they no longer needed slaves.
ITT: Not traditional games.
>>47742407
>>47741179
>>47742425
>""""""""""""""French"""""""""""""" Muslims
Then again, it's surprising that they haven't been at it for 10 years like in Rotherham
>>47739047
>>47742407
Oh please, the EU hasn't been good since De Gaulle stopped being president of France. The sooner it burns the better.
>>47738286
Because Hollywood wants people to be lowest common denominator shitters, and thus easier to market to.
Bongs are viewed as being clever and cultured, so associating bongness with evil also associates being clever and cultured with evil. Hey kid, wanna be a hero? Be uncultured swine!
>>47743417
It is
>>47738345
Mate, we have 12 accents in single cities, never mind across the country.
>>47743491
>Bengal
>Australia
The hell are you talking about?
I don't see you shitting on the Arabs or the Moghuls who were vastly more cruel than the British ever were.
>>47743448
>and acknowledged the fact Britain fought hard against the slave trade for the best part of 100 years after they banned it.
You mean after it was no longer politically and economically profitable for you to do so, and when it gave you a convenient excuse to harass and attack Spanish and American shipping in the Caribbean and Africa (Which you then stepped up immensely)?
Or should we be grateful that you kept those totally-not-slaves-we-promise-they're-free-now nice and confined on their sugar plantations in the Caribbean, where they still suffered the ship at the hands of white landowners and "colonial administrators," and still could not vote and had no representation in their government and were unable to leave their lands without the risk of punishment or death to their families, but thank God they weren't slaves, am I right?
Or should we be grateful for those 25-year-long "forced apprenticeships" of the Khoisan people, almost overwhelmingly of black females to single white males, where they "liberated" "captured natives" from "raiders" (that of course no evidence could be found of their existence, but that's just because they were REALLY good at hiding) and then oh-so-generously gave them a place in their home and taught them "skills" and gave them a "Christian education," while the men were confined elsewhere on settlement camps "for their own protection" and forced to work in diamond and gold mines? How selfless and noble of the Crown to be so generous to her subjects.
What pisses most Americans off is that the British act all high and mighty like they did these incredible selfless acts, when the harsh reality is that it was all PR bullshit where they talked out of both sides of their mouths and did what best filled their coinpurse.
Rule Britannia, and all that bullshit.
>>47743337
Honest question - where do you travel to?
I'm from Houston, and I've never seen Mexicans get made fun of any more than white people or black people or asian people get made fun of, because our city is pretty evenly divided along racial lines. You can't mock Mexicans without getting your shit kicked in by like 40% of the population.
>>47743392
>single-handedly fucking up an entire continent so thoroughly it will likely never modernize
Between us, the French, the Belgians and the Portuguese we divided up Africa into three territories and then proceeded to rule them with varying degrees of brutality. The Belgians are the best known for being ridiculously over the top evil, even compared to us (look up the Belgian Congo), but we often pitted rival tribes and cultures against each other so that they wouldn't fight against us. Arming both sides of a conflict so that they hate each other more than us is still par for the course here.
>Single-handedly dividing up the a region so poorly that it has created permanent strife in the region
OP will have to be a bit more specific than this, since this was our modus operandi for the entire colonial period. If you've ever looked at a map of Africa, you should have noticed that the borders are essentially straight lines. This is because when the Empire was dissolving we just drew straight lines on a map and called them the borders of new countries. Didn't matter if we split cultural groups in two or put rival religious groups in the same country (see the entire Middle East for this). That was probably actually encouraged too, because the idea was that if they were too busy fighting each other they'd never become a major threat to us.
>Single-handedly injecting an entire ethnic group into one of the holiest regions of all Abrahamic religions, kicking out the original residents, and then backing the new guys in foreign policy
There were a lot of problems with the formation of Israel, but the overwhelming sentiment of the time was that they should receive *something* for having gone through the Holocaust. There was a plan to set the country up in some part of Africa, but the Jewish lobby in the UK pushed heavily for the Holy Land and managed to convince the men in charge.
>>47743906
>The Belgians are the best known for being ridiculously over the top evil, even compared to us (look up the Belgian Congo)
I'll have to stop you right there, Bucko. That was Leopold II who ruled the Congo like his private territory. When the Belgian state took over after his death (the very takeover being related to the outrage Leopold II's rule caused) Belgian rule over the Congo fell in line with the standards of other countries.
>>47743906
>Single-handedly got an entire continent hooked on drugs just so they could get tea for cheap
Yeah, this was fucked up, even for us. I'm not going to defend it because there's nothing defensible about it. We got an entire nation hooked on one of the most addictive drugs available at the time just so that we could enforce our will on their government. At the time this happened we were starting to move towards social liberalism back home too, so there was a lot of domestic sentiment against the wars, especially once sailors started coming back with opium addictions too.
That said, this wasn't particularly out of the norm for how our government and merchant classes worked. We frequently gave monopolies to dickhole companies that exploited the natives of wherever they traded from because it made us shit loads of money in import tariffs. We wanted access to the interior of China for our merchants, so we engaged in some of the most brutal and underhanded tactics we could to get it.
All in all, the Empire was pretty fucking awful for a lot of its existence. We were the top dog because we controlled the sea lanes and because we dealt with dissent with immediate and violent efficiency. You don't get to be that powerful without being an absolute cunt to everyone else.
Still, it wasn't all bad. When we ran into cultures that were able to stand up to us (like the Gurkhas in Nepal), we brought them into the fold and celebrated how badass they were. The Gurkhas are still well respected in Britain for that.
>>47744026
My bad. I keep forgetting that Belgium's royal family had their own thing going on that was separate from the country's government.
>>47743337
>>Suddenly, for some reason, I as a lone citizen am responsible for everything that our corrupt government and narcos do
Welcome to being an American traveling abroad.
>>47743906
>OP will have to be a bit more specific than this
I was specifically referring to the Middle East post-Ottoman Empire. Most of the problems inherent to the region can be traced to the partition of the region after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
>>47738286
>>47738331
I prefer the villains having cockney accents.
COR BLIMEY
>>47744136
>Welcome to being an American traveling abroad.
I finally in the last couple of years got to where I could afford to travel, started doing a lot of research/reading up on traveller's experiences, joined a few facebook groups about travel, and realized that there's literally no way I'd want to deal with a lot of the bullshit that I was reading some travelers were having to deal with...so I bought a motorcycle and just randomly drive around the US.
Shit sucks man. I really wanted to do the pan american highway and spend like three months traveling across Europe.
>>47744240
Dude, chances are that the majority of those tourists were being assholes. Don't be an asshole and you won't get shit. Hell, we Brits love Americans as long as you don't act like assholes.
Do you see a theme here?
>>47744271
Eh, I get that point and grant it for Europe, but South America? Yeah nah.
>>47743906
the formation of Israel had a lot to do with pressure from America as well
>>47743726
and had their states dismantled and absorbed by the British since. But they got their independence again once GB decided it didn't want th land anymore.
>>47744385
America was actually very ambivalent to the formation of Israel. They did eventually lend their support, but the US was originally against the idea as they didn't want to stir shit up even more in the Middle East and were worried that Israel would just become another extension of British Imperialism (which the US had very, very ardently said they would not support, culminating in a document that I cannot remember the name of signed aboard a US submarine by Churchill and FDR that stated that, in exchange for supporting the British in WWII, the British would work towards moving their colonies to independence and self-determination.
European colonialism was always a very big negative in the American psyche, and a big reason why many people in the US didn't support Britain before Pearl Harbor.
>>47743509
I'm a brit myself and we need the EU if we're to compete with America and India. We're not a world power any more. We're just a couple of little islands.
Try being Romanian
When I came to freedom land in 7th grade they tricked me into saying "Ah. The children of the night...what music they make."
>>47744497
>if we're to compete with America and India
Not him nor British but why is competing so important, and why is it worth forcing yourself into a union with countries you have no cultural ties to and sacrificing what little remains of British culture?
>>47743257
>single-handedly fucking up an entire continent so thoroughly it will likely never modernize
What makes you think they were going to modernize?
>>47744497
Does the country serve the economy or does the economy serve the country?
>>47744536
The economy is served our pocketbooks.
>>47744515
because if they don't then there won't be any British Culture left.
>>47744517
>What makes you think they were going to modernize?
Many, many African kingdoms and nations, before they got curbstomped in the Scramble for Africa, saw the merits and advantages of European technology and their power. Many of them did intend to modernize, just in an African way at their own rate. Europes sudden interest in the strategic importance of the continent, however, changed all that (and the worst part is that it was purely strategic - they cared very, very little about the colonies themselves and only about securing their ships as they travelled the African coast to India).
The European policy of "indirect rule," their codification of "tribal traditions" (i.e. things that weren't actual traditions) and their sudden abandonment of the continent, however, just royally fucked over any sense of social unity and political systems they once had. Most (though far from all - there are some up and coming nations, that may have a chance) just realistically can't modernize with what they've been given, and it's just fucked them to high hell and back.
>>47742425
>>47743557
Well they weren't brown if thats what your suggesting. They were paler than minnesotans.
>>47738286
Because american accents sound dumb and they want their bad guy to be cool.
>>47744585
>Because american accents sound dumb
>>47744536
As there is an economy irrespective of if there's a government or country, I'm pretty sure that the country serves the economy.
Hell, most of the reason that governments exist is to stabilize economies.
>>47739047
Since when was freeing Europe three times in a row 'not very nice'?
>>47744599
>Hell, most of the reason that governments exist is to stabilize economies.
The argument can be made for modern governments, but historically it's been far, far more about not getting their shit kicked in by other people.
It's why people would put up with brutal, totalitarian regimes that treated them like slaves, because better a slave than being stuck on a pike while your wife gets raped in front of you and your children thrown into a fire.
>>47744596
>1 ok accent
>vs uncountable english ones
>>47744626
Umm, no. It's all about economies and trade. That's why a key aspect to every government is how they define and enforce property.
>>47743358
Most Brits wouldnt even know about it, what with most of our nation being pig ignorant anti-intellectuals and for some reason being proud of being so.
>tfw superior Tipperary non-accent
>>47743815
You forgot the "great project " in australia intended to "Breed the black out" of half-aborigine children.
>>47744738
>sounds like you got an asian dick in your "mowf" half the time
>other half you have a brits dick in your "mowf"
>no accent
Right....
>>47743358
Most countries seem to have a very black period in history that they try to weed out of knowledge. Japan has the Rape of Nanking, Britain has the Opium Wars, America has a number of possible black spots, but the most prominent I feel is Vietnam, the only issue is America can't sweep it under the rug since our culture allowed, and still allows, for heinous crimes and deeds that we commit to be known publicly, shit, nearly all of America's most classic rock bands got famous due to all their songs about anti-Vietnam stuff.
>>47738333
Trips confirm it.
>>47738345
Far more than 12. You walk around London for a day and you'll hear at least double that number.
>>47742456
Jesus fucking Christ get over yourself
>>47744790
Could be worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3SYExmOk4A
>>47743257
HATERZ
GONNA
HATE
>>47744808
Arab, Polish, Turkish and Indian are not British accents, mang.
>>47744830
There's also a load of French.
I live just outside the region so I'm safe.For now.
>>47744463
Which is majorly hypocritical considering America is the greatest expample of colonialism and imperialism
>>47738286
as a bong myself I find this deeply offensive
>>47744596
They really do
Most Americans sound dumb and smart Americans sound unbearably smug.
>>47744830
London is only part of the UK as a technicality. The rest of these blessed isles would happily see the place glassed.
>>47744862
The tide will soon be stemmed, anon
>>47744896
But what about big bong?!
>>47738286
>Describing yourself as a Bong
Christ have some dignity, lad. Would Wallace and Gromit meme himself?
>>47743031
>>47743257
Non-imperial savage detected.
>muh Africans were gonna modernize
>Africa was a peaceful land before those evil whites ruined it! We wuz kangs!
>Muh Palestinians! Fuck the Jews!
>Yeah that was pretty fucked up, not going to argue with that one.
>>47744921
The real Bong is inside your heart. Unless you're a bloody foreigner.
>>47744955
We were dicks to pretty much everyone, lad, it's not worth denying.
However, it's also undeniable that those countries wouldn't be the absolute shitholes they are if we had stayed there just a bit longer to sure up the infrastructure
>>47744955
Needs a more evil pick
Armies marching in colourful red shirts and bright white pants isn't really menacing
>>47744996
In many ways, the Middle East is a mess because we're no longer in charge of it. The entire world is paying the price for the end of the British Empire. We tried to warn them, but they wouldn't listen. We should have insisted, but it's not our way, and now look at what has happened.
>>47744996
>we
Sorry lad, best colony here.
You were dicks, but as you said, if you had just stayed for a little bit longer (rather than caving to "muh independence" [except for America, of course :^) ]) and really drilled the concepts of civilization into the savages, there really wouldn't be this many problems.
>>47745011Because it isn't evil
>>47745033
Well, we Americans could have taken over your mantle if it weren't for all that "isolationism" in our early years.
>>47745011
It was back then. It may look silly and colorful now, but go back to the revolution and seeing a wall of red coats and white pants marching to you meant the empire was coming, and it was time to battle.
>>47738286
British actors are better and cheaper than Americans, but American audiences are maximum pleb and won't see films with British leads even though they're better, so the superior British actors have to take the second most important role.
Now that British actors have learned the secret of your garbage voices (along with their sidekicks the Australians), they're starting to muscle out all the bland American shitstars.
>>47745212
It's less about quality and price, and more about work ethic.
British actors are, generally speaking, told they're never too good for a role, to always keep working, and to do your best with the role no matter how shit you think it is.
It's why people like Tim Curry, Michael Caine and Christopher Lee could be in so many shit films and still retain their dignity and status.
A similar work ethic is why Christopher Walken can do whatever the fuck he wants and still get roles.
It's a major plus for any studio to know that they're probably not going to get a prima donna that phones it in because they think it's beneath them.
>>47738326
>delusional bonger that doesn't understand the world hates him and his people
>>47744864
>Which is majorly hypocritical considering America is the greatest expample of colonialism and imperialism
Nigga are you for real
Ignoring the fact that Europe (Specifically France, Spain, Portugal, and GB) literally invented the concept of Imperialism and Colonialism as we understand it today, American foreign policy has been, from day one, about cockblocking European expansion in the Western Hemisphere. Nations that the US intervened in were not the nations the US had the strongest economic ties to, but the nations most prone to collapse (and therefore European "saving").
The only war you can legitimately argue was of colonialism (Philippines Insurrection) was not only massively unpopular back home, but also a major wake-up call into dealing with other nations and how to handle formerly European colonies in the American system. Starting with the invasion of Haiti, the US policy of intervention has always been,
A. Remove unpopular old regime.
B. Install local governors, install security presence.
C. Remove problem demographics that are unpopular with the locals (such as the bandit armies of Haiti)
D. Draw down influence as government finds its feet, train local government to take care of itself
E. Leave.
While it rarely ended that way, this is the textbook American Interventionalist policy. Places like Puerto Rico and American Samoa were territories that were acquired under this principle, but simply voted (of their own accord) to stay in the US system.
Free trade has always been far more important (and ultimately more beneficial) to the US than straight-up colonialism.
>>47745444
Most of the worlds nations are poor sports
![[sickened, but curious].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8NwuhZv.jpg "[sickened, but curious].jpg")
>>47744955
That picture is Coldsteel-level cringe right there, dude.
![144417769255[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GlBpAxn.jpg "144417769255[1].jpg")
>>47745722
Of course, the places America tends to invade just "happen" to turn into unstable shitholes that become almost entirely dependent on America.
>>47738286
It's not just bong accents, it's specifically an accent that until fairly recently very specifically entailed an elevated social class.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_structure_of_the_United_Kingdom#Accent_and_language_and_social_class
Come off. The Middle East is a shit hole because the Ottoman Empire collapsed on the peak of an Islamic renaissance
>>47745751
>that become almost entirely dependent on America.
Pretty much half of the world is highly dependent upon America by default because it's just so damn economically powerful, so that's really not a great argument. By that argument, the UK is a victim of American Imperialism because it is very, very economically tied to the US and the US economic system.
Imperialism and Colonialism, by default, also includes the practice of exclusionary trade with the parent or host nation, as well as direct subjugation of the client state to the parent. This practice was not done by the United States for a couple of reasons:
A. As victims of European Colonialism for a sizable chunk of its history, Colonialism is very, very looked down upon by American society. Doesn't mean there weren't a few politicians who tried it out, but it was always extremely unpopular when the rest of the nation found out about it ("Where the hell is Nicaragua, and what the hell are we doing there?").
B. The US benefited more from free trade than it did from exclusionary trade practices.
C. The US didn't have the power to have a global slug-fest with most European barsobviously barring those degenerate Iberian dogsso attempting to create colonies of its own would invite Europeans sticking their dicks in the pot as well.
D. Believe it or not, for most of its history the US has/had a legitimate sense of kinship with the Western Hemisphere, and believed that they should be self-determinate outside the influence of Europe. This belief is partly why it so floored the US when what would later become Canada sided with GB during the War of 1812.
>>47744136
your problem is your culture, not your government, so there's no real escape though. Americans hate America's government much more than anyone outside it
>>47744795
I would argue that the extermination of the Native Americans is the most prominent black spot in american history.
>>47745883
>your problem is your culture, not your government, so there's no real escape though.
I ask this sincerely - have you ever been to America? Because what other people think American culture is and what Americans view American culture to be are 9/10 VERY different things.
>>47745896
As somebody who studies American Indians and Native History, I honestly don't think it's the WORST we've done, if only for the simple reason that the Indian Nations were actually pretty complex societies (usually) that were simply so different from Western-style societies that coexistence was nearly impossible without somebody having to cave.
Black slavery and the Jim Crow South were far worse, and that (combined with Yankee plundering during Reconstruction) are much more impactful on American society today.Also the Comanche were dicks, fuck those guys
>>47738286
Why be offended? Villains are cool.
>>47745935
>the Indian Nations were actually pretty complex societies (usually) that were simply so different from Western-style societies that coexistence was nearly impossible without somebody having to cave.
I'm European and never read much Sociology or Anthropology so I have no base of knowledge, but I'm interested in this. Could you recommend me some books that would point me in the right direction?
>>47745896
Well when I say black spot in history, I mean it's something horrible, that the country has tried to sweep under the rug. The extermination of the native indians is a common known fact, and the country has been working to try and make up for it. Japan completely denies that the rape of Nanking happened, and Brit doesn't even try to take responsibility for fucking up Asia with opium. Germany has also been trying REALLY hard to push Nazi Germany into the dark corner
>>47738286
You were America's first bad guys.bad guys nationality tends to change over hisrory.
>>47745935
One good thing that came out of it, if you can prove you're majorly related to native bloodlines, you get some pretty cushy benefits. Supposedly I am related to a Cherokee chief, so if I can find proof of this, I think I am set.
>>47746359
>Could you recommend me some books that would point me in the right direction?
Couple of ones that I have (though I'll say most of my knowledge is in MesoAmerican and American South societies).
The Barbarous Years by Bernard Bailyn
>The Complete Illustrated History of the Aztec and Maya, by Charles Phillips
>The Broken Spears, by Miguel Leon-Portilla
>The Plains Indians, by Colin F. Taylor
Most histories of Mexico, Texas, and the US Frontier will also include a lot about the tribes of the Southwest, because they (Especially in the Navajo, Pueblo, Apache, and Comanche) were HUGELY important in how the US, Mexico, and Texas shaped their expansionist policy.
There's a lot of reading, but beware the myth of the Noble Savage when learning about them.
>>47743906
>kicking out the original residents
LIE.
The only people who were kicked out of anywhere were Jews in every single party of the Middle East outside Israel, including the rest of the Holy Land when Jordan and Egypt invaded.
>>47745722
The guerillas that America trained in the Middle east, Nicaragua, Colombia, Mexico, etc say different things about American policies. Sorry dude, someone had to call it.
Each and every single one of them has come back to bite you in the ass too (in the form of cartels, terrorism, etc). And it's pretty much widely documented what happened in Chile when people voted for Allende (because you said unpopular regimes). You don't want to go there.
While it's true that America was a key factor in stopping Europe from retaking the continent, they installed governments that weren't a treat to their interests rather than trying to make regions stable. Dictators like Pinochet, Calles, etc flourished with American protection while fucking up their countries beyond all hope, and sometimes American soldiers were sent to rescue them from popular uprisings, when murican government had enough knowledge and intelligence to know about each and all human rights violations, economical / cultural fuck ups and suppression of freedoms right left and centre that were habbening in those places. Claiming that only a few polliticians supported those interventions or that they were ignorant of the consequences is moot.
You'd think after the second or third fuck up murica already knew that such method didn't work for some reason, and always yielded identical results anywhere. Why keep doing it then?
If America wanted to have a safe environment for trade and shit, Central and South America would be strong commercial partners (who'd be very grateful about their situation with you, with large support from the base population) instead of taking ambicious puppet #337, put its ass in a nice chair and call it a democracy.
>>47746852
>Colombia, Mexico
Were offshoots who used their training to benefit themselves at the expense of the mission the US gave them (Mexican Cartels are the prime example of this). They did their own thing despite what the US intended for them to do, much to the consternation of literally everybody involved.
>Each and every single one of them has come back to bite you in the ass too
Incorrect. The Phillipines, Haiti (at least from an American perspective), Panama, Guam, etc. are all places that the intervention went quite well, and achieved its goals. Just because shit falls apart for unrelated reasons later doesn't automatically make it Americas fault. (That isn't to say we haven't caused our share of problems, mind you - only that things going wrong isn't the only possible outcome). That's also not including US interventions to clean up other nations messes (like Rwanda, jesus christ that one was awful).
>they installed governments that weren't a treat to their interests rather than trying to make regions stable.
As a general rule, again, incorrect, especially before the Cold War. The nations the US intervened in were not nations the US had a strong economic interest in, but the nations most likely to fall apart and get snapped up by Europe again. The nations that the US had the strongest economic ties to (Argentina pre-WWII, Cuba, Brazil, Costa Rica, Panama) weren't messed with (or were messed with very little) even despite their often terrible regimes, because those regimes were stable and not under threat from foreign influence. The nations that WERE intervened in were nations like Haiti, where there was a European power lurking in the distance waiting for everything to fall apart so they could "save the day."
>If America wanted to have a safe environment for trade and shit, Central and South America would be strong commercial partners (who'd be very grateful about their situation with you, with large support from the base population)
Lol.
>>47746497
Thanks, I'll check it out.
>>47747243
>at the expense of the mission the US gave them (Mexican Cartels are the prime example of this)
Basically, despite having complete knowledge of the cartel of Guadalajara, nursing it with weapons, giving it market and intelligence, and opening the borders for the Sinaloans for some reason, after what happened in Colombia, the drug mess was something completely unexpected.
When the US knew what they were doing, gave them everything they needed to grow (even in their own territory) and had enough experience to know how much of a bad idea this was, not to mention the fact that picking each president and dictating state policies was and argueably remains a thing.
This is a prime example of what you shouldn't do.
>(That isn't to say we haven't caused our share of problems, mind you - only that things going wrong isn't the only possible outcome)
What happened in Guatemala and El Salvador was exactly what the U.S. government intended, again, with decades of continued support. If those were problems or mistakes or flukes people wouldn't eye suspiciously at such statements.
>Lol.
Being dismissive is fun and all, but does not address the point. These were not the most effective actions even for the U.S. in the long term as diplomatic relationships will always have a tint of looking at muricans funny.
In the end it's about puppet states and making sure economic and pollitical interests are met instead of "saving south am from evil europeans". Again, even if you did, that doesn't mean that you're not wearing that cape yourself, as if, right now.
>>47738286
Deal with it, faggot.
>>47738286
Because no one fucking cares what you think.
Realistically, it's because no one has good opinions of the brits with the exception of Whovians or other stupid shit like that because you guys were some of the greatest architects of the shittiest parts of the world. Your influence and desire to own and exploit everything left a lot of the world in a worse position than it could be, and the world recognizes this. No one personified the inherent cruelty of Empire to general Western audiences like Nazis and brits, and Nazis are a tried and trite meme.
>>47752629
Stay mad
>>47739798
Dialects are accents.
>>47752629
Bong here.
Does the world really resent us for what the Empire did?
![DarkestDungeonBrigandBloodletter[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rJU2fdx.jpg "DarkestDungeonBrigandBloodletter[1].jpg")
>>47738286
OI LADS TOIM TA AAHRN YOR PAI
KRUMP DIS LOT SOAS WE CAN GIT BAK TA TEA TOIM
>>47756277
doubt it
they're being distracted by what america has been doing
>>47756277
France might, in secret. But the rest of the world is too busy blaming your star child for the weight of the world's sins at the moment.
>>47753435
Accents are ways of speaking
Dialects are languages that are mutually intellegible with other languages (or dialects, that is).
A dialect has it's own vocabulary, grammar, intonation and phonology. An accent just happens to sound different.
>>47738286
Because Brits are the evilest nation on Earth.
>>47738410
There's nothing wrong with Russians; just your governments.
Spending a semester in the UK taught me that basically no bongs have the kind of suave, attractive accent you hear in movies. The vast majority of them have accents that sound like a cat caught in a taffy machine.
>>47738286
As a Bong, I take it as a compliment.
We're just better than everyone else.
>>47738331
>German Villian
>Genocide of worlds population because of Overpopulation
>British Villian
>Long, far-reaching scheme that moves slow and is virtually hidden from the majority of the population.
>Russian villian
>Rather overt aquisition of power through economic and military means
>Austrialian villian
>Punch Bagga in the gut for being a cunt.
>>47739301
>Going to The Netherlands
nice
>Going to Amsterdam
retard
