I would like to play a tiefling in my campaign. Our campaign revolves around Waterdeep so tieflings are not so impossible and DM has cleared me.
I understand that /tg/ does not like tiefling much, what can I do to avoid the sort of pitfalls that gave people bad impression of tieflings, except the obvious "don't make edgemaster backstory".
>>46453984
Mostly, don't make an edgemaster background.
>>46453984
Think about whether or not there is any other reason for you to want to play a tiefling aside from you thinking they are hot and wanting a qt tiefling waifu.
If the answer is "no", then play something else.
>>46453984
>I understand that /tg/ does not like tiefling much
/tg/ is not some grand arbiter on what you should and shouldn't play.
Mostly don't be an asshole and don't fuck the party over.
>>46453984
be an average joe that just happens to have small horns
>>46453994
/thread
Anon/ette, you are playing with your friends, not with /tg/ :). Make a cool character who is not a pain in the ass for the rest of your group and is decent or better mechanically, and it's good.
Lore-wise, try to balance between handwaving the fact that tieflings are generally disliked/feared, and being an Edgette McDarkson so as not to grate on the rest of the team's nerves. What version of FR is that, btw?
>>46453994 This
>>46454004 This
and the advice I always give players who play elves:
Don't play the race just so you can have free magic powers or a centuries long-lifespan. Nobody likes that Sueshit.
>>46453984
>I would like to play a tiefling
Don't
>>46454020
I'm not that familiar with FR, the generic 5e one, after spellplague?
>>46454004
My previous character was a human folk hero, so I've had plenty of "go to village, villagers welcome me with open arms because of my reputation". I feel like playing someone that's the exact opposite - always viewed suspiciously and with dislike so I have to really work at getting people to trust me.
>>46454058
> always viewed suspiciously and with dislike so I have to really work at getting people to trust me.
Don't.
Seriously, this is the kind of edgelord stuff that just makes your character really annoying for the rest of the party to deal with.
>>46454086
Considering half-orcs are treated the same way (and elves are in some areas) this isn't a downside for the race specifically.
>>46454086
Well to what degree that happens is kind of up to the DM isn't it?
I would think if you have a tiefling and all the NPC just treats him/her as a normal human with horns and tail without batting an eye, that's kind of missing the point isn't it?
>>46454117
Sure it's up to the GM, but the player stated he specifically wanted that sort of reaction.
This is a bad thing though, because, unless the rest of the players have all agreed beforehand that they're OK with it, it's sorta annoying to have that one player who's always losing us jobs and getting us attacked because "WAHH, EVERYONE HATES MY RACE! WOE IS ME! SO TRAGIC! FEEL MY ANGST!"
>>46454086
Isn't it default for pretty much every adventurer, especially lesser-known ones?
>>46453984
>Waterdeep
A tiefling is about as exotic as milquetoast in that setting. You could be half-illithid and no-one would bat an eyelid; there's so many epic-level powertrip insert mega-wizards running around that the NPCs have seen -everything- already. Fuck, most of them will probably have more outsider blood than your character at this point.
>>46454134
>EVERYONE HATES MY RACE!
But all they said they wanted was the suspicion nd dislike, not full hatred.
>>46454153
Maybe if they're a party of murderhobos or criminals...
>>46454170
Any adventuring party is a murderhobo party until proven otherwise.
>>46454134
Wear a burqa in town and hide the tail underneath it too.
If Horo can disguise her ears and tail and hang out at churches you can too.
Warlocks have a particularly easy time because they can take an invocation that gives them disguise self at will.
>>46454214
>the only proper human in party is woman
So, I guess duck does all the talks?
>>46454227
Horo's disguise is about as good as Clark Kent wearing glasses so people don't know he's Superman. It's just kind of one of those things you roll with an accept because you wana follow the story without questioning it too much... but it's still kinda ridiculous if you DO think about it.Also, let's be honest, Horo was designed to be waifu-bait, rather than the horrible scary demon she's supposed to be... kinda like most tiefling players in my experience, actually.
>>46454058
ugh, the Spellplague... Didn't 5E effectively retcon that?
Anyway, at this point tieflings have been around for a while, and Waterdeep is among the most cosmopolitan places in FR. Your character would most likely be seen as just another odd hybrid/minority by most, if one with a rather poor ancestry.
Sometimes, it may be easier to wear voluminous robes and pretend to be a wizard, but usually you can make do without if you belong to a group or organization that has your back. A bunch of adventurers, for example
How come no one every want to play a male tiefling?
>>46454227
Korbo is literally mary sue, though.
>>46454260
>kinda like most tiefling players in my experience, actually.
Where's that Planescape tiefling traits chart? That'll fix the waifu-bait status.
>>46454254
Hey, the ducks are respected by many of the Orlanti. They are bros with the Cult of Humakt in particular.
>>46454289
Because people play them as fapbait, not to make an interesting character. It's a shame too, because there's a lot of interesting things that could be done with the races. But Kender are played by faggots who always want to steal your shit and act like complete cunts, and tieflings are only played by people who want to be like whatever that species with the horns is from WoW and be fapbait for themselves.
>>46454280
>Anyway, at this point tieflings have been around for a while, and Waterdeep is among the most cosmopolitan places in FR. Your character would most likely be seen as just another odd hybrid/minority by most, if one with a rather poor ancestry.
this. The worst thing in kitchen sink fantasy settings is when, outside of obligatory multinational town everything is just shithovels populated by humans who have never saw anything weirder than unusually big rat in the cellar.
>>46454292
>Planescape
You mean the setting that introduced them to the waifu-bait status to begin with?
>>46454289
I was about to make a post about how there's a player in my current campaign playing a male tiefling, but >>46454334 has the right idea, since the character is described by the player as "a manwhore who can't refuse those hot bois tho"
>>46454289
Because we have orks already and I see no reason to use any reason to use any other race for male character. Well, maybe except kobolds.
>>46454354
To be fair, DnD does say humans are the most numerous species and it takes place in a sort of medieval setting. So, a lot of shithovels populated by humans outside of a few larger areas of commerce and trade does make sense for most games.
>>46454355
>You mean the setting that introduced them to the waifu-bait status to begin with?
Just because Tony D likes to draw hot women, doesn't mean that all PS depictions of tieflings are hot.
>>46454355
>You mean the setting that introduced them to begin with?
FTFY.
Have you even seen those tables? You can end up with some very not-waifu things.
>>46454385
The table is really cool and all, but what's so bad about imagining your character to be attractive? Particularly with tieflings since they're suppose to have that "forbidden fruit" feel about them with their high cha.
>>46454260
To be fair, there's a difference between Supes and Clark's similarity and random girl who you don't suspect to have tail/ears.
Rolled 2, 90 = 92 (2d100)
>>46454385
roll
>>46454406
>forbidden fruit
Where'd you get that? Some might, but I figured most of them would unnerve or scare most people given they're half infernal being. Wouldn't most of them creep people out or scare them without necessarily trying to because they have that "aura" about them? Makes more sense than "every single one of them is half infernal being, and this makes them hot as fuck".
>>46454289
I played one once. First time in 5e, his shtick was that he was the oldest son of a landowning noble house, but had been disowned because muh family legacy, and had a revengeance complex. The GM made it hard by introducing his sister (the current heir to the lands he wanted) as a super cool quest giver contact, so I never actually took the throne and made do with being a master of Kirk diplomacy (boning dragon chicks).
>>46454432
>half infernal being.
That's a bit high. Half-infernals are a different thing.
>>46454406
>The table is really cool and all, but what's so bad about imagining your character to be attractive?
As with everything in life, it depends on the context.
Rolled 40, 50 = 90 (2d100)
>>46454415
Another two rolls
>>46454004
>If the answer is "no", then play something else.
But what if that answer is "no" for every race?
>>46454494
Then you've reached enlightenment, for you now know that you are and will forever be That Guy.
Do with this as you will, for you are not in my group.
>>46454494
Then go play something else, because unless everyone in your group is interested in an erotic game, it's just fucking embarrassing watching faggots like you drag their fetishes into the game because you can't focus on a game for more than 5 minutes without describing your character's tits and ass.
Most people play the game to make interesting characters and a story and have fun. Can you not leave your dick out of the game for a few hours?
>>46454531
>erotic game
Woah, that's completely different, don't jump to conclusions like that.
Just because the character being hot is a major consideration doesn't mean you want a bunch of neckbeards to hear about it.
>>46454494
You are some really weird kind of xenophile then. Like, do you in all serious no jokes allowed 100% truth like elves?
>>46454406
>The table is really cool and all, but what's so bad about imagining your character to be attractive?
Everything.
You are not supposed to play attractive characters. They're waifushit or mary sue wish fulfillment bullshit.
You are not supposed to play ugly characters. They're pitybaiting "oh woe is me" shit or pathetic attempts at "quirky, but lovable mascot", like kobolds
You are not supposed to play strong characters. It's powergaming and wanking on "muh efficiency"
You are not supposed to play weak characters. You're bringing the party down and indulging in your powerlessness cuckfaggotry.
You are not supposed to have a detailed backstory. You are just hogging the DM's attention.
You are not supposed to have a short backstory. You obviousl aren't interested in playing at all and probably are just a powergamer.
You are not supposed to have a character deeply entrenched in the world. Again, you're hogging DM's attention and forcing him to rewrite facts in his setting to accomodate your mary sue ass.
You are not supposed to have an unusual character not in line with the world. It's just speshul snowflake mary sue crap.
You are not supposed to have a serious character. Take your boring moralizing and "deep" problems to therapy.
You are not supposed to have a humorous character. Your sense of humor is shit and character is cringeworthy lolrandumb retard.
You are not supposed to play anything. Everything is cancer. Nothing is good. Just stop playing roleplaying games altogether.
>>46454550
I like elves but they're really vanilla you know? If asked to play an elf I would always try to be a deep sea elf or a drow or something like that if given the chance.
I dunno, I just like races that are a bit out there but can still look graceful and beautiful. Aasimar, Tieflings, various Genasi, I love that sort of stuff.
>>46454547
It's not really jumping to conclusions. Pretty much every person I've played with who has always cared a lot about how hot their character was typically did do that kinda shit at the game. Making a hot character is fine, but if that's all you care about and consider everything else pretty much secondary, you are just being that kinda guy. And nobody else at the table gives a fuck or wants to see your ass breathing heavy in the corner because you're always at a half chub during the game. Not every aspect of life has to be sexually appealing to be fun.
>>46454560
"What is moderation?" - the post.
>>46454453
>Humans don't trust tieflings, but remain inexplicably fascinated by tiefling just the same.
Sound like forbidden fruit to me.
>>46454560
>You are not supposed to play ugly characters. They're pitybaiting "oh woe is me" shit or pathetic attempts at "quirky, but lovable mascot", like kobolds
But what if I made ugly character who don't give a shit about his appearance and not very likeable person in general, but still willing to sacrifice his life for companions, but never ever tell them about it because it's pussy talks and we are here doing business so fuck off with your friendship? Is it waifushit or mary sue?
>>46454453
>disliked wary loners
>+1 charisma
wtf?
>>46454560
>>46454614
Unfortunately /tg/ doesn't understand moderation, it has to be either one extreme or the other.
>>46454560
Someone screencap this raw gem please
>>46454614
Thanks for reminding me, anon.
>You are not supposed to play a moderated character. It will inevitably be boring average joe with "my self-insert in fantasyland" thought process
>>46454627
>i-i-i- don't like you or anything, baka! im not tsundere!
Do you even know how to write/play a character that isn't a walking stereotype or blatant wank material?
>>46454608
Well it doesn't apply to me. Of course there are other considerations, but hotness will always be a major one to me, enough of one for me to decide on a race and then go from there. That doesn't mean I have, as some other anon once put it, autonomous dick disease and am incapable of suppressing my sexual feelings.
>>46454665
No.
>>46454640
>>46454637
Indeed. I sometimes wonder if people do it on purpose just to shitpost or they are desperately struggling to excuse their waifufaging in any way they can.
>>46454699
Awesome. you that typed this, rest assured that i understand and approve
>>46454699
>>46454726
>>46454320
>bros
You camethisclose to fucking that up.
>>46454704
Those kinds of people do exist, though. I've played with them. And a lot of them get pissed if you tell them to tone it down. For a game based around social interaction there sure do seem to be a lot of emotionally crippled people who can't seem to separate porn from the game. This coming from a dude who has played erotic games before and enjoys them. But that sort of shit should stay in those kinds of games. I don't want every single game of mine to be about that sort of shit.
>>46454742
ITS GROWING
>>46454767
It's inoperable.
>>46454756
Agreed on everything apart "lol, dem emotionally crippled people"
at this day and age facebook and all those shit social nets you come from have completely covered it up, but internet is still the place where first world madness runs free. don't expect to meet so many well adjusted and mentally healty individuals, specially on fucking 4chan
>>46454385
>Abilities: 24, 32
>ESP and Mirror Image once per day
>Appearance: 4, 65
>Small horns on forehead, and spiny ridges all over body
>Side Effects: 72, 81
>Fingers treated as claws, and Touch inflicts damage as a result of unnaturally low body temperatures
I don't know about you guys but that sounds funand also not exclusive of making an attractive tiefling
>>46454841
I meant real life. I'm not from Facebook. I was always a dweeb and lame by most standards and the kid who read encyclopedias as a child. And the fact is that such people are emotionally crippled. And I don't mean socially awkward, I'm talking of the kinda people who join a game not meant to be erotic, spend 30 minutes describing their character's looks and 10 seconds on their past, and get visibly upset and angry when you tell them it's not an erotic game so they should tone down talking about wanting to suck everything's dick/asking if there's a brothel every 5 minutes.
So, social awkwardness is not being emotionally crippled.
>>46454908
>spiny ridges all over body
>Fingers treated as claws, and Touch inflicts damage as a result of unnaturally low body temperatures
But then how would you touch and feel and LOVE?
>>46454375
Sort of medieval setting, except one with fairly widespread magical amenities and services. A large village has a decent chance of having a caster with level 3 spells, and there are enough even on lower levels to improve life in several handy ways. Even a few orisons can make a big enough difference in, say, childbirth and infant survival, and FR has never been shy about having a surprising number of higher-level characters even in backwater villages.
>>46454927
Changelings have unnaturally tough skin (although you'll need to like young looking females as they age in an unnatural manner and are all female), as do Oreads, while Aaisimar are cold resistant as are Sylphs.
>>46454927
Careful application of fire/heat enchantments. Have lots of bandages on hand for after.
>>46454908
You're only supposed to roll on the side-effects table if the main appearance table tells you to.
It's also 5 times on the Ability table and 1d4 times on the Appearance table
>>46455196
Ooh, didn't realize. I'll go roll again.
>>46455211
>Abilities: 57,63,74,19,46
>Half damage from cold AND electricity
>Infravision, 120 ft
>Detect magic, 3 casts/day
>Vampiric touch, 1 cast/week
>Appearance: 3 rolls, 91,5,33
>Roll again twice: 54,11
>>Long thin tail (demonic I suppose)
>>All teeth are pointed
>Small horns on temples
>Six-fingered handsEven better
>All teeth are pointed
>Small horns on temples
You will be really bad at blowjobs.
>>46455318
Make up in tenacity what you lack in skill.
>>46455358
You could just work on something you're good at, like say... prostate stimulation with your tail.
>>46454385
>blur, +2 saving vs cold and elictricity, infravision, half-damage from cold
>hairless body, red eyes, lizardlike tail, long thin face
That's some really weird shit. It's like bald yeti or something.
>>46454742
forgot the "What is moderation" thing.
It make things better
Here's some inspiration for making your cute titling.
>>46454214
Ironically one of the choices, and usually the one people pick, is to murder the lot and steal their loot.
>>46454676
>reverse trap loli succubus
I think I just figured out how I'm going to play my new tiefling.
>>46456157
Yup, pretty much. It's the best choice.Fuck those guys, they're assholes.
Need pictures of Paladin Tiefling.
>>46456127
Is she wearing a bear trap as a necklace? Brutal.
>>46456911
>>46453984
If being a tiefling is the primary characteristic of their identity, make a fucking human and get some more practice.
If it's merely something that shapes their outlook/decisions/behavior, but isn't at the forefront, you should be good. It's you as a player that makes it good or bad.
>>46456911
>>46457135
>>46457152
Don't be a bard or rogue for starters.
>>46457181
That's all I've got.
>>46457206
What's wrong with tiefling bard?
>>46457260
The most stereotypical Tieflings in order:
Tiefling Rogue
Tiefling Bard
Tiefling Warlock
Don't be a Warlock either I just couldn't be fucked mentioning that initially.
If you evade these archetypes you are giving yourself a head start in evading the reasons /tg/ hates tiefling characters. By doing something other than simply repeating them. I mean maybe you'll create your own new and unique tiefling problems but then you'll have a story to come back and tell us.
>>46454699
I've seen perfection today.
>>46457432
>Fat
Forget fat, how is she fitting her organs in that abdomen?
>>46457932
She's one of the ones that eats ash and burnign coals for nutrition.
>>46455318
>There's a fetish for that
>46457932
>Magic
>>46457334
You forgot Tiefling Paladin.
>>46459344
Why don't you add the sorcerer also? Now all classes with Cha as primary are a stereotype.
>>46454406
You know, I just don't quite get it how Tieflings get a racial bonus to charisma in 5e while being described as being deformed by hell and spat upon by most on the same page. Wouldn't it have been better to give them a bonus on intimidation instead to specify this a bit more?
>>46457260
tiefling bard is best bard
>>46453984
>I understand that /tg/ does not like tiefling much, what can I do to avoid the sort of pitfalls that gave people bad impression of tieflings, except the obvious "don't make edgemaster backstory".
>needs /tg/ permission to have fun
HOLY FUCK ANON. Sort out your life.
>>46454086
>post implies he's going to make the effort to earn people's trust rather than saying "you hate me anyway so fuck you"
>edgelord.
Incidentally, I just won my daily /tg/ buzzword bingo.
>>46461339
>while being described as being deformed by hell and spat upon by most on the same page
They're not really "deformed by hell" though, they're just more or less humans with horns and tail.
Imagine a really hot girl, but suffering a case of uncanny valley so when you get really close to her you feel both attraction and a sense of disgust at the same time.
>>46457932
She put them in the hips.
More realistically, her whole digestive system is completely fucked and she is gonna die pretty soon.
>>46454260
Fuck you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIaF0QKtY0c
This right here shows why superman vs clark kent is a convincing disguise. Clark kent is poor postured, he speaks differently, he's honestly sort of whiny and annoying. Superman exemplifies the best qualities of what man can be, and that's reflected in his bearing; he stands upright, he's proud, he speaks clearly and projects.
In the original superman movies, until this scene happened a *lot* of people on crew honestly thought superman and clark kent were played by different (but similar looking actors).
>>46454254
The women is probably Orlanthi too. Though the feathers may be magic.
>>46457260
Why is this my favorite 4e image?
>>46461339
Intimidation is a Cha skill
>>46467825
Because you think taping a loaf of bread to someone's forehead is a good aesthetic choice.
>>46454742
Beautiful
>>46455318
Nothing wrong with teeh
>>46458552
Yo
>>46454531
>to make interesting characters and a story and have fun.
And so they drag their fetishes into it.
>>46455922
okay, here you go
>>46457432
>fat semen demon12
>12
The implication here is that you have at least 11 more. Gibe?
>>46465515
That is a thing that exists ONLY in that series of films as a personal touch Reeve did himself, it is not a key feature of the Superman franchise you fuckwit.
>>46457932
>>46464973
Don't see it. People have thinner abdomens in real life.
>>46468008
>>46461624
>not playing a golden fiddle
>>46468186
I second this demand for more sexy succubi. Or sexy tieflings.
Hell, show us what a /d/eviant you are if you have to, I'm sure they could do with a succubi thread.
>>46458552
I think it's pretty hot personally, though I don't think it's to the point of a fetish.
>>46454004
For example is pretty hot, except for the hooves. The skin color, ear shape, horns and so on go great with the pretty face. The four-fingered hands actually look really nice, since they're naturally four-fingered and don't have that strange look a human hand with an amputated finger would have.
>>46468264
People being fooled by superman's clark kent disguise (or the other way around if you prefer) is definitely a thing, and since they are fooled there has to be a reason
The best tiefling
>>46474748
I don't think that's a tiefling
>>46468008
IT'S A CROISSANT, YOU UNCULTURED MONGOLOID
>>46474856
looks more like a baguette 2bh
>>46453984
Just make the character as though they were human. Ignore the tiefling bits except for the racials. Let your GM fill in the muckery and mockery themselves.
>>46474856
>>46474886
>ITT: french
>>46468264
It exists in the comcis too, at least sometimes. So artits draw Superman and Clark Kent with notably different posture and expressions.
I remember seeing one picture one Superman artist did that shows the two side by side, and they are pretty different looking despite having the same built. Superman stand with his back straight and chest pushed out, while Clark Kent is slightly hunched over and has his stomach pushed outwards so he looks shorter and chubbier than Supes. Their facial expressions and posture in general are also notably different, with one looking heroic and the other kind of meek and whimpy.
>>46468538
You need to get out more. Her measurements look to be about 35-20-45. The skinniest person I know has a waist of 25, and she's not built like Jessica Jackrabbit.
>>46475245
You misunderstand, anon. I'm not saying that she has a reasonable figure. I'm saying that her abdomen has plenty of room for all of her organs.
I can see perfectly fine that with thighs that thick she couldn't reasonably have an abdomen that small.
>>46475299
I kinda sorta concede on the grounds that I got... what's-her-name's name wrong.
But come on, there's GOTTA be some smooshed organs in there... it just don't look right.
>>46475391
Her abdomen still isn't any narrower than her head for example, very thin people can get like that when they suck in. It just looks strange because of how fat her thighs and tits are in comparison.
But then it's a cartoon. With a tail.
