>Lakers, Timofey Mozgov have agreed to four-year, $64 million deal.
>DeMar DeRozan has agreed to a five-year, $153 million deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors
>Jordan Clarkson has reached agreement on a four-year, $50M deal to return to the Los Angeles Lakers
>Nicolas Batum, Charlotte reach agreement on five-year, $120M deal.
>D.J. Augustin agrees to four-year deal with Magic
>Jeremy Lin to join Nets on a three-year, $36 million deal
>Bradley Beal has agreed to a five-year, $128M-plus max contract to stay with the Wizards
>Al Jefferson agrees to three-year, $30 million deal with Pacers
>Andre Drummond agrees to 5-year max deal w/ Pistons worth estimated $130 million
>The NBA announces that free agent OJ Mayo has been "dismissed and disqualified" from the NBA for violating Anti-Drug Program.
>Milwaukee Bucks, Matthew Dellavedova agree on 4-year/$38.4M offer sheet
>Free agent forward Evan Turner has reached agreement on a four-year, $70M deal with Portland
>Chandler Parsons agrees to four-year, $94M deal with Memphis
>Free agent forward Solomon Hill has agreed to a four-year, $52M deal with New Orleans
>Free agent Jeff Green has agreed to a one-year, $15 million deal with the Orlando Magic
>Dwight Howard has reached agreement on a three-year, $70.5 million with the Atlanta Hawks
>Darrell Arthur agrees to return to Nuggets on 3-year, $23M deal
>Mike Conley, Memphis Grizzlies agree in principle on 5-year, $153 million deal
>Jared Dudley has reached a 3-year, $30M deal with Suns
>Free agent guard Kent Bazemore has agreed to a four-year, $70M deal to re-sign with Atlanta
>Joakim Noah agrees to 4-year, $72 million deal with the New York Knicks
>Joe Johnson, Utah Jazz reach agreement on two-year deal worth $22 million
>Forward Luol Deng agrees to a four-year, $72 million deal with the Lakers
Woot Pacers!!!!!
Lakers?
>>69154708
I'm feeling a little salty bros.. why can't I be an NBA player? Everybody's getting millions thrown at them and I would be happy to save up 100k :\
Rockets?
Who else is watching summer league? Max Hooper might play if the thunder ever put him in
The Heat are getting absolutley BTFO, how many wins will they even be able to get next season?
>>69154873
Where can I watch this
>The Deng headline is real
>>69154909
nbatv
>>69154873
>Watching summer league
>Not watching finished products
I bet you watch college too don't you
>Win NBA championship
>No free agent wants to go to Cleveland
>>69154909
NBATV. Check your local listings.
>>69154876
>LeBron James will never hand-deliver pizzas to your house
>you will never have the chance to tell him you are lactose-intolerant and have him take them all back
>>69154955
>not watching any form of basketball when your bored in the offseason
I bet you're autistic arent you
>>69154996
I want to go to an alternate universe where Lebron is a big ass pizza who's fit as fuck for no reason at all
>>69155054
>Lebron is a big ass pizza
Does Deng still have legs? Didn't Thibs waste him. I hope he is healthy. I wanted Deng on the Lakers. Lakers filling the locker room with adult voices to guide the young bloods. We already got 4 All Stars on this team none of you know it.
>>69155002
We only accept the best around here, tell those summer league guys to come back in 2 to 4 years
>According to Chris Vivlamore of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Hawks made a "significant" offer to Al Horford.
If he signs, Pauls gone.
Schroder
Bazemore
Thabo/Prince
Horford
Howard
Lebron James, we coming for you nigguh
>>69155101
I knew this was coming haha. Pizza GUY
>>69155150
are you suggesting millsap should be coming off the bench
>>69155125
Deng was healthy last season.
>>69155183
>If he signs, Pauls gone.
>>69155150
We'll take milsap off your hands
Dlo
Wade
Deng
Milsap
Mozgov
Comfy first round exit
>>69155183
I'm suggesting that Paul, Paul Millsap, will be traded to clear cap space. Hence the rumors.
So what would be the Lakers' current starting lineup? How many wins they can achieve in the west?
>>69155150
Nah they'll keep Paul if they don't Horford. Probably drop Korver if anyone.
Schroeder
Baze
Trillsap
Horford
Howard
Prepare your anus, Eastern Conference
>>69155246
>>69155222
sorry, i didn't read that. my bad.
>>69155292
all is forgiven, greatest ally
>>69155265
Like 30 wins maybe
>>69154958
Did you watch the Cavs this past year? Quietly dysfunctional, James looks like a control freak, the offense AND defense flows completely though James, honestly the only player you all *might* get is Wade because he's BFFs with James but no megastar would TOUCH Cleveland.
The city sucks, James is bigger than god, and everyone's seen what's happened to K Love and Kyrie since his arrival, looks like career suicide
why the fuck is he going to the Hawks?
How the fuck is Deng worth 18M a year at this stage of his career?
Wait nevermind, this is the same FA where Chandler Parsons got a fucking max.
JR better get around 18M too.
>>69155150
>The Atlanta Hawks will contend with the Cleveland Cavaliers
>>69155284
Can you not read? I said he will be traded if Horford is resigned. Thabo will play stopgap because he is a better defender than Kyle - our offense will be fine with him coming off the bench. Prince should be starting by mid to late season.
The Hawks will be a legitimate threat in 2017-18. They need a year to gel and a year for THJ, Dennis, Baze, and Prince to mature and really hone their abilities to Bud's system.
Do you think she been blacked yet?
>>69155373
Last time LeBron seen Dwight in the playoffs, the latter dropped 40 to send that boy crying home.
>Cameron Payne pulling a Reggie Miller in the summer league
Lmao
>you are now aware that the cap goes up even more next offseason
>you are also now aware that westbrick is a free agent next year
if KD comes back, it doesn't really matter in the long-term. they won't be able to keep both. if Conley got 150 mil, Westbrook might get 200.
>>69155373
They will. They don't need Dwight to be Orlando Magic Dwight. They need a center Tristan can't push around for 36 minutes.
>>69155474
But LeBron got competent teammates now that isnt that white skinny zyagahasha ilasfhaskas and ben wallace with a broken back.
>>69155474
that's what happens when Anderson "Flubber" Varejao is your best big man. The man is cursed. The second Cleveland got rid of him they won a title, imagine that.
>>69155341
It's his hometown team, their presentation must've been the best ever because he cancelled all other team meetings after ATL.
He *could* be serious about winning, because the Hawks organization isn't going to be keen with him prancing around like a diva, and probably made that known to him to begin with and their (presumed) starting 5 is spoopy and gives a better chance to beat CLE
D'Lo
Ingram
Durant
Deng
Mozgov
Who can stop us?
>>69155551
Everyone?
Wade to the Knicks hahahahaha
>>69155551
the laws of probability
>>69155551
Everyone
>>69155501
>Westbrook might get 200.
You do realise that max deals are still a thing, right?
>>69155551
>Who can stop us?
Reality
>>69155551
Realistically any team in the west and half of the eaat
>>69155551
>Durant
Uh no
>>69155551
even the sixers if they get jamal desu
>>69155501
Kill yourself retard. They both already have the max and the cap is expanding to allow them to keep both players. At most they'll need to get rid of one of the low contract guys that never get minutes.
You look at salaries as percentages of the maximum not actually look at it as just millions.
>>69155596
East*
>Celtics meet with Durant today
Good luck and don't cry Danny
Since Warriors is the opening game opponent most likely
Who's Cavs opponent during Christmas Day now that the whipping boy Kobe is gone?
Knicks? OKC? Clippers? Miami?
>>69155578
Knicks are out of money unless dwade wants like 12 mill
>>69155592
he probably doesnt
>>69155630
toronto
Dwade staying in miami and kd staying in okc
>>69155462
Pretty obvious
If you don't understand basic economic principles I have no time for your comps of today's contracts vs contracts of yesteryear/diff sports.
Retards fuck off.
>>69155327
? Kyrie Irving got better though
>>69155327
>everyone's seen what's happened to K Love and Kyrie since his arrival, looks like career suicide
You mean becoming champions and playing deep into the playoffs every year? You mean to tell me Kyrie and Love done that before Lelbron?
OH FUCK DWADE IS COMING HOME
Thought Jetlag would be way worse desu
how sad will you guys be when allen iverson dies of a drug overdose in the year 2016?
>>69155661
Christmas is called boxing day in Canada
>>69155592
he'd be close to it. 35% of 110 million is 38.5 million. over five years would give him around 193 million
>>69155327
>everyone's seen what's happened to K Love and Kyrie
>Kyrie
He was the best player on both teams not named Lebron in the finals and there were games where you could claim he even outplayed Lebron. He didn't get worse, he got fucking better.
Love did get worse though, because he's a pretty bad system fit.
>>69155893
It's the day after Christmas you freaking goofball
>>69155893
day after christmas lid
>>69155902
man, but you kinda can't spend 70% of your budget on two players.
i think OKC is trying to get horford for one super aggressive run at the championship in 16/17 before they have to let either durant or westbrook leave
Sad to see based Delly go but I hope he finds success with the Bucks, same with Mozgod to Lakers
>>69154958
>>69155327
>mfw bandwagon still this btfo
>lakers have crippled their cap space from years of tanking by signing mozgov and deng to huge money 4 year deals
RBL on suicide watch
>>69155820
>as reported by Chris Broussard through his multiple sources
A lot of other "insiders" and reporters are making fun of him for saying that because no one else reported he was blown away, they just say is was "good"
>>69155462
no. she is pure.
>Sources on @TheVertical: Boston and Washington have emerged as frontrunners to sign All-Star forward Al Horford.
>>69155902
The maximum deal for a player with 7-9 years of experience is 30% of the cap and next year's cap is projected to be set at $107m
i wonder how many hot asian girls jeremy lin has had sex with....
i wish an asian girl would have sex with me =/
or any girl really...
>>69155964
Name the last young / in their prime free agent willingly went to Cleveland.
WE OUTCHEA
Honestly if the clippers get Kd which they won't would they get a chip?
>>69156034
lebron
>>69156057
outside him none for decades
>>69156039
Nah CP3 cursed
>>69156036
Who top 3 seed here?
>>69156081
RARE
Is the League ready?
>>69155959
Westbrook is currenty 25%, KD will be 30%, Westbrook will be 30% next year.
So it will be 60%, not 70.
>>69156095
Yes ready for nothing
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHUzkqzjjfw/
lol
>>69156083
>tripcode
You played yourself
>>69155964
Mozgod and delly earned those rings and these contracts with their performance in 2015 finals
Happy trails
WE GO TO LA
>>69156039
>>69156083
>>69156119
Who the fuck are you? Filtered
>>69156102
durant is eligible for 35% starting with 2017/18 should he opt for a 1+1 contract. so that'd put is at 65%, smack in the middle.
>>69155983
>being this scared
It's ok to accept the Clippers will have the best record in the league next year
>>69156145
>>69156158
No who the fuck are you?
>>69156176
A bunch of chockers won't do shit
>>69156194
>anon literally quaking in his boots at the mere thought
You're probably some scrub who Blake has BLACKED before
>>69156191
A Pacers fan
Who are you?
>>69156023
Welcome to Boston
>>69156212
Really what era?
>>69156176
>scared
It's the truth. Literally look at any other report about the meeting. A guy even made a mocking joke about Ballmer crying and everyone thought it was real.
>>69156095
Diversity is strength great to see LA accepted a multicultural team, hope they end like the Spurs.
>>69156095
kek
>>69154876
>tfw Heat fan
>tfw can't eat at Blaze pizza anymore because of LeBron
Why even live?
>>69156161
>should he opt for a 1+1 contract
That would be after the 1+1 if he signs a 6 year deal on the second year of the 1+1 (2 year) deal.
Either way you were wrong about 70%.
>The Los Angeles Clippers are not a title contender
>mfw dunc'd on shat all over the pacers and said theyll be worse than last year
B T F O
T
F
O
>LUOL DENG
>>69156023
>mfw the Celtics sign this guy and trade him for Boogie
>Russell Westbrook is the best point guard in the NBA
Heat are in trouble
>>69154665
I love Nurkic but nah, I really don't think Faried, Joff, Barton and picks are enough. Unless Sacramento really, really has had enough and wants Boogie gone immediately, I think they or any team really would ask for Nurkic, at least, to be included either in addition or in place of Joff.
Honestly /nba/ needs to get off the Pacers bandwagon
We're full
Who /suburb of Indy/ here
>>69156283
>>69156339
When will you finally just fuck off?
No one thinks you're funny, you're just an annoying blight.
>>69156367
Bandwagon? Where?
>>69156026
my bad I though westbrook would be a 10 year veteran next year. The 107m salary cap for next years is just an estimation though. This years cap was projected to be 89m at the begining of last season, but ended up more than that.
>>69155150
That is an absolutely god awful offensive lineup.
>>69156279
i was wrong about 70%, as you were about 60%.
now, is spending 65% of your post-cap spike budget on two players wise?
>>69156367
>get washed up pg
>get washed up center
>somehow elite now
Reddit never ceases to amaze me
Utah looks good
PG: George Hill, Dante Exum, Shelvin Mack, Trey Burke
SG: Rodney Hood, Alec Burks
SF: Gordon Hayward, Joe Johnson
PF: Derrick Favors, Trey Lyles, Trevor Booker
C: Rudy Gobert, (Favors), Jeff Withey
>>69156432
>as you were about 60%.
No I wasn't. Next year is 60%. Don't even try this shit with me.
>>69156263
Why can't you eat at blaze pizza anymore?
>>69156432
Fuck off
Next year is going to be just as boring as this year.
Cavs will definitely win the eqst and be slight underdogs to the warriors/thunder/spurs who will 100% come out of west
>>69156409
Right here
>>69156468
i was talking about a scenario starting with season 2017/18.
>>69156406
>When will you finally just fuck off?
>No one thinks you're funny, you're just an annoying blight.
>>69156465
>>69156497
>hahaha I forgot to green text part of it, this is a very serious matter
>let me delete the post just so it's guaranteed my funny fedora post is absolutely perfect
>>69156526
Quit replying to him
He's an autist
>>69156490
Thanks reminder that bandwagoning a team that's been irrelevant the past two seasons is bandwagoning
>When will you finally just fuck off?
>No one thinks you're funny, you're just an annoying blight.
>>69156463
Shit like this is what makes Jeremy Lin annoying. I wish we had a ghetto ass Asian dude who knew martial arts and used it during altercations. I want the Asian Ron Artest.
>>69156542
Yes it is.
>>69156567
Kek ok local
Who will Timberwolves get?
Bucks in six.
who is a player that everyone pretends to like but deep down everyone hates him?
>>69156615
Bucks in 5
>>69156526
>When will you finally just fuck off?
>No one thinks you're funny, you're just an annoying blight.
>these lelker fags who post the starting lineups and think they will be ever relevant again
>blight
>Durant "blown away" by Clippers presentation
Thunder suicide watch yet?
>>69154708
>>69154848
>>69154878
>>69154921
>>69155040
>tfw no qt Kristen Ledlow gf
She's the perfect woman
>>69156681
The rest of the stadium looks full, I guess the rich spoiled courtside holders just decided to leave, while people in the other seats are more grateful and stay
>>69156482
you are forgetting it was a very close game that could have gone either way. Kyrie's clutch 3 and Leblock sealed the win.
>>69156707
does that mean they contracted strippers to blow him?
>>69156736
>>69156766
Ballmer did it himself. Started crying on KD's cock, couldn't handle it.
>>69156707
I bet the Clippers pitch was he takes a 1+1 so they could make a run for the title and then sign elsewhere.
>>69156612
I'm hoping Marvin Williams 2 yr 36 mil
>>69156798
l-lewd
How the FUCK is Mike Conley the most paid athlete in NBA history? Who actually thinks he is worth 30 mil a year?
>>69145799
Why am I Chalmers the fug?
Also
>all these bitch fans being mad at the HEAT and not Wade
If Wade is so butthurt about taking paycuts, he should've put his foot down years ago. Doing this at age 35 when he doesn't deserve max money or even 20 mil is silly.
>>69156841
Reminder >>69154211
>>69156790
>tfw never cuddle up and watch space jam with her
I might just end it rn bros
>>69156841
The grizzlies organisation
>>69156807
Not even that. He'd have to take a paycut. Or they'd have to literally get rid of everyone but their "big 3"
Worst FO in the NBA after the Lakers.
>>69156429
You are an idiot. That offense is a threat from any spot on the floor, save Howard. Horford can hit 20 footers with fucking ease.
>>69156057
I think 2012 was lebron's prime. Since he started in high school his body is probably that of someone 2 years older. He is a little bit passed it but still the best player in the league.
>>69156841
Because the cap exploded due to the new TV deal and he's the only one to sign a 5 year max with his current team, one which struggles to attract good free agents and needs to try their best to win before Gasol gets too old.
Curry will beat it next year - if LeBron doesn't end up signing a 5 year deal this year.
>>69154807
Are trash
>>69156889
Actually, I forgot that LeBron literally can't beat it due to that goofy 36yo rule.
>>69156871
>Worst FO in the NBA after the Lakers.
>>69156881
I think Lebron will age similarly to Tim Duncan. Once the freakish athleticism starts to disappear he will develop a better jumpshot.
Thank you based Deng
I don't think I've ever hated a fanbase that has nothing to do with the team I'm a fan of more than the Celtics.
>>69157008
It's Boston fans in general, they're obnoxious in all sports since they've been so dominant recently. In the 90s I don't think I ever met a single Boston fan so let's hope their sports become shit again.
>>69156881
He didn't look past his prime in the finals man
I thought that too but I think he just needs to manage minutes in the season better
His "best" season was 2012-2013 when he shot 55% from the field and 40% from 3 though
>>69156961
His jump shot is still pretty good, he has a higher 3pt% than Kobe and has shot 40% from three in a season, just a matter of minute management and him retooling this summer
His post game gets better every year too
How does Mozgov go for 16 a year and Jefferson go for 10 a year?
>>69156961
He cant even properly make a shot at the post against fucking pointguards the likes of Curry, Rondo or Livingston
Im holding my breath every play that's like that and hope he makes one.
>>69157029
Yesterday their selling points for free agents were:
>you can compete for a top 3 spot in the east
>lebron could get hurt
>you never know!
>>69157031
People thought "coasting" was a meme but it's pretty obvious at this point.
He just needs to fix his jumpshot
>>69157069
Lakers have to overpay 2nd teir players nowadays because players and their agents consider cost of living and taxes
The organization is a dumpster fire as well
>>69157094
He's been working on fixing his jumper. It was a mess during the regular season.
holy fuck RBL just keeps fucking winning ahahahaha
THANK YOU BASED DENG. Eternal thread where?
>>69156627
How good can Giannis really be?
>>69157310
Better than mayo was
>>69157130
Lol no rings
>based
Rbl is a cuck shed
is lakers basketball back?
>>69157381
>he doesn't know about TYBD
>>69157415
If by winning a championship or making the playoffs then no
>>69157434
Yes I do you faggots used to make hose threads in 2012 and then the Bulls would get cucked by Lebron per usual
>>69154882
They have a pair of great rookies. They need 1 decent forward to fill the spot of deng and johnson. They dont have shot this year anyway
>>69157415
perfectly placed zipper
>>69157415
Why are lakers fans so obsessed with porn stars?
/r/ing the how to draft white guys sheet
>>69155893
>American education
>mfw the celtics sign horford then durant
>>69157069
Cause Commieforinia cost an arm and a leg to live in
>>69156681
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2020 World Champions the Los Angeles Lakers starting line up.
C: Larry Nance Jr.
PF: Julius Randle
SF: Brandon Ingram
SG: Jordan Clarkson
PG: D'Angelo Russel
Its perfect
>>69157008
Aren't you a special snowflake
>>69154958
They even afford to pay any big free agent anyway. The only ones that would make cleveland better are two way guards. Two way guards are rare and expensive, hence, gilbert cant pay them. delly's 9.5m/year wasnt matched either. He's a great roleplayer. Figures that Cavs cant overpay their bench and if they want to make some moves they'd have to get rid of shumpert first.
how is Al Jefferson being paid so little?
Laker fags are the worst
>>69157721
why would Ingram start over Deng
What did he mean by this?
>>69157780
I don't know how is beal getting overpaid?
>>69155284
>hawks get swept by heat
>somehow the addition of Dwight Howard would make this team win 4 games against Cleveland
Fuck Dwight Howard, have fun atl
>>69157803
>Benching the regular season MVP
>>69157892
kek lakers fans still salty
>>69157635
"don't"
>>69157810
Bulls threw a max contract at Wade and he's "seriously considering" it. If that goes through it will fuck the Bulls over for the next 5 years and waste all of Jimmy Butler's prime.
>>69155551
>Rookie backcourt
>Mozgov cant catch a pass
>Guards (probably) terrible on defense
>Durant is great but when off a chucker that probably hurts your team more than the other way around
>No Okc frontcourt to grab every single rebound when durant goes 10/28 on fg's
>Lakers fans thought they were getting Durant
>Lakers fans actually got Deng
POTTERY
O
T
T
E
R
Y
ITS ETERNAL
>>69157415
>TFW no Lakers fan chicana gf
;_;
What will happen to Laker fans if the Clippers get Durant?
Will they ever recover?
>>69158027
mckayla isn't mexican
>>69157854
I hope the Cavs can make a good addition. Hopefully Dwyane Wade signs up to take Dellavedova's spot. That sucks if he signs with the Knicks, he's reported to be in talks with the Bucks too but I doubt that happens. He probably ends up staying with the Heat though and is just wasting other teams time on purpose
>>69158058
They'll show up as Clippers fans
>>69156176
>73-9
>still lose
Who cares about a regular season record?
>spurs 67 wins
>btfo by a younger OKC
>WWLWLLLarriors
>WE'RE GETTING WHITESIDE!!!!!!!!!!
>sign Mozgov
>No worries! We're getting Durant!!!!!
>signs Deng
How can one fan-base be so delusional?
Thank you based Deng
>>69158168
Who got fucked worse, Lakers fans or Mavs fans?
>>69157810
am i crazy or does this nigga look and sound just like zach lowe
Soon. He's coming home
>>69158168
Lakers fans always think they're getting every fucking body haha. It's funny to see this one girl on my FB who's a laker fan, anytime a story about Dwight comes up she writes something cussing him out
Haha fuck kobe
>>69158205
Definitely Mavs
>>69158101
Cavs can't afford him. Otherwise I have no doubts Lebron would bring him in
>>69158205
Mavs fans, they would be happy to get Mozgov
>>69156176
>3-1
>three and one
>three wins and one loss
>>69158304
He should take a paycut for the love of basketball
>>69158205
lakers for sure
at least mavs can bottom out and start a new era when dirk retires in the next year or two
lelkers just gimped their cap space for the next 4 years for 2 declining players, one of whom is trash the other is a solid starter but nothing special
>>69158276
>Coming home
>Lakers jersey
>He's not from LA or California
>>69158109
>WWLWLLLarriors
top kek thats pretty good
TYBD
>>69158168
Whats her instagram?
>>69158361
We already bottomed out and got our stars in the draft. Mavs are 4 years behind.
>>69158503
a week ago i'd much rather been in the lakers position. now i'm not so sure. it really all depends on how ingram develops
>>69158325
Nigga the 2015 NBA Champs also choked a 3-1 lead
Anything is possible
>>69158279
Lakers fans really think they're the Yankess of basketball but there's this little thing called the salary cap that ensures it will never happen.
I wonder if the Patriot fans stay this delusional after Brady and Bill leave too.
>>69158578
The difference is that the Memeiors were actually able to win a championship while the Cloppers with all their """elite""" players can't get out of the 2nd round, ever.
>tfw you move to the US and /nba/ can't use your flag to bully you anymore
>>69158637
Who's your favorite team faggot?
>>69158643
You have to go back, taco.
INTRODUCING YOUR 2016-2017 BOSTON CELTICS
Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Smart
Durant/Crowder
Horford/Mickey
Cousins/Olynyk
>>69158683
Dual citizenship lil nigga
>>69158678
The reigning champions you little bitch.
>>69158643
I know this feel all too well. Truth be told flags were a mistake on /sp/.
>>69158701
Wow.
They're going to have a lot of fun getting swept by the Knicks.
>>69158614
Yep, for a while they were yankee-ish, going like 60 million over the salary cap and into the luxury tax. But then the NBA changed the system, to where if you're paying a luxury tax it starts to multiply every season so the lakers stopped paying over the salary cap
>>69158715
the shameless bandwagoner, always a sight to see
>Wake up
>See Lakers have given a 31 year old Deng( who is really 35 thanks to thibs) a 4 year deal worth 70 million
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Spending nearly 200 million on Clarkson, Mozgov and Deng
>>69158168
Dat ass
