Is he the biggest NFL draft bust of all time?
>>69104601
Why do you think hes a bust? Because he doesnt want to play for shitty Cleveland Browns that didnt want to start him?
I would of done the same thing as johnny and force my way out
Jamarcus Russell
>>69104601
Yes.
Even worse than Jawalrus.
But desu, he just wants to go to burning man, so the NFL should get off his dick.
>>69104649
Isn't he a drug addict now? He's not even playing anymore, I doubt any team wants him on their roster, he isn't cut for NFL tbqh
>>69104681
JaMarcus Russell
18 TD
23 Int
4083 yards
Johnny Manziel:
1,675 yards
7 TD
7 INT
>Didnt want to start him
That's because this dude literally showed up to practice drunk when he was with the Browns.
>>69104730
JaMarcus Russell
1st overall pick
Johnny Manziel
22nd overall pick
>>69104730
JaMarcus Russell
weighs well over 300lbs
Johnny Manziel:
isn't the size of a manatee
That's not Ryan Leaf
>>69104762
this.
also don't forget (pic related)
>>69104649
Reminder this is an 18+ board
That goes for IQ as well as age
>>69104649
Hi Jerry Jones
>he's going to go completely sober starting tomorrow, he promises!
>>69104773
>isn't the size of a manatee
You're right, he's the size of a 19 year old girl now.
Crown still goes to Leaf and JaPurpledrankus
hell no.he had massive red flags from the start. he had doubters everywhere. nobody wanted to take a risk on him. the expectations for his career for his nfl career were very low. i think most execs thought he would not stick in the league. you cant be a bust if nobody thinks you are going to be good and you fall in the draft.
>>69104762
Yup. Also Experts were nervous that his style of play and personality wouldn't fit in the NFL. Manziel was never considered a sure thing like Leaf or even an immense physical talent like Russell.
>>69104601
Ryan Leaf is still king of NFL draft busts until further notice.
>>69105297
I'll give OP credit for giving me the chance to post this
>>69104649
>>69104681
mostly this. It will always be Russell or Leaf. Depending on how you define "bust" though, Russell is the clear winner.
>>69104601
No. Ryan Leaf is objectively worse than Manzlel in just about everything.
>>69104649
spotted the aggie
>>69105360
nahh it'll be Leaf. because there were people at the time that would project that Leaf would've been better than Manning.
>>69104796
Why does he look like Belichick had a baby with Matt Ryan
>>69104681
this or Ryan Leaf. Manziel is 3 right now but could go "higher" I suppose
>>69104649
Cleveland Browns refused to start him because he showed up drunk to every practice. I'm not even joking, they even tried covering up for him by faking the injury report.
>>69104730
How much did Manziel destroy the browns cap space? Because Russell took the raiders to the cleaners
>>69105258
>mfw he goes on a drug fueled rampage and kills half of Cleveland
>>69104649
and what happens if nobody wants you after you've "forced your way" out of your prior organization?
>>69105339
the sad thing is that even if Dwayne Bowe had caught that, the flag still would have invalidated it
JaMarcus was worse for the Raiders than Leaf was for the Chargers.
The Chargers got LaDainian Tomlinson for putting up with Leaf, the Raiders got jackshit.
>>69104601
He's basically Todd Marinovich 2.0 but with more media coverage. Gonna make for a great 30 for 30 some day.
>Ryan Leaf
>#2 overall
>14 TD 36 INT
>50 passer rating
>Manziel
>#22 overall
>7 TD 7 INT
>74.4 passer rating
Literally only an underage retard would argue that Ryan Leaf isn't the bigger bust.
>>69104601
no, just an alcoholic/ drug abuser.
he wouldn't have been drafted in the 1st round if it wasn't for the Browns. no one else wanted him that early.
>>69105454
And quickly found Brees and Rivers
>>69104601
Meahwhile, AJ is still in the league and married
>>69104601
no but he's close
>>69105482
yep, see
>>69105297
the only thing Manziel has on leaf is the TD/INT numbers, oddly enough, but he's 1:1 only because of the baby passing era
>>69105472
he's more of a Marinovich/Leaf combination. Marinovich at least trained. Manziel avoids practice at all costs.
>>69105454
the Raiders have SB wins in their past. The Chargers are just plain cursed. Leaf affected SD more
> In the third game of the season on September 20, Leaf completed only one of 15 passes for four yards, threw two interceptions and fumbled four times (losing three) in a loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Johnny never had a game like that
>>69105339
>that flag at the end
>>69104762
Not to mention that everyone except that one homeless guy said that Manziel shouldn't be taken in the first round. Unfortunately for Browns fans, that homeless guy was the only person Jimmy Haslam listened to
>>69105695
The defensive back had no idea how much time he had to make up that lost ground
>>69104649
>I would of done the same thing as johnny and force my way out
you are either dumb or delusional. maybe both.
he's an addict and it's showing. it's been showing for a long time now.
>>69104681
>>69104730
lol fat marcus is not a big of a bust as john boy.
these stats prove it too.
>>69105258
is it just his job to be retarded because people like laughing at retards?
>47 replies
>no Teboq
Literally the biggest busy in any sport. If you disagree you don't know SHIT about sports
>>69104700
oh man, thanks anon. I love this song, your post triggered me to look it up. i'd like to go to burning man sometime too. sounds fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5oGmj3uMg
>>69105339
>The record will show this as a 20 years gain
>>69105297
Where exactly does this say leaf was worse? Other than ints, he's beating manziel
>>69105339
that's worse than Tebow's worst ball, good lord.
>>69105727
>homeless addict tell browns owner to draft another addict
you can't make this shit up
>>69105258
skip is so cringe sometimes. it hurts.
>>69105297
Seriously, anyone who says Russel is a bigger bust than leaf needs to have his head examined. Leaf was mediocre all the way through, Russel could have been a decent QB if he wasn't such a lazy nigger.
>>69105837
>Three years of play verses the equivalent of one year.
Stop eating lead paint chips faget.
>>69105501
hell he may take dog dick reds spot as starter.
Who was the worst qb? I'm talking purely on stats, not in regards to draft order. Let's say he had to have played at least half a season.
Guy with the jail pussy goatee is the biggest bust
>>69105814
>Teboq
tell me when johnny or jawalrus win a playoff game in OT like the God tier teboq
>>69105890
Look at the game average stats. Ints aside, leaf wins across the board.
>>69105727
this is still such a great note in the Brown's and Manziel's history. Maximum JUST
>>69104681
>>69105941
That's the point retard.
>>69105967
>Ryan Leaf is still king of NFL draft busts until further notice
>Stats clearly show Johnny was worse
What's your point?
>>69105959
>dat Naruto
OOC, why is Ricky Williams not considered a bust? The Bears literally sacrificed their entire year's draft for him and he rarely played for them.
>>69105941
>Attempts 9 more passes per game
>Does fuck all
>Sub 50% completions
Leaf was pitiful
>>69105959
classic
>>69104681
>In April 2016, it was reported that Russell had written letters to all 32 NFL teams asking for a tryout and pledging to play one year for free. To date, no team has responded to this letter
JUST
>>69106131
That is actually really depressing.
>>69105297
Yes. And Ryan Leaf was hyped as fucking coming into the NFL. A lot of people that Manzeil would be a bust and it was kind of a surprise he even went in the first round. Most armchair experts like me just said >browns" when he was drafted because his style just wasn't going to work in the NFL. You can't even compare him to Ryan Leaf to be honest.
>>69105934
>t. Someone who doesn't know SHIT about sports
>>69106131
>Russell had written letters to all 32 NFL teams asking for a tryout and pledging to play one year for free
Thats the most desperate, pathetic thing Ive heard a fooball player ask
>>69106131
maybe if he offered to play as a lineman someone would have taken a flyer.
>>69104601
He was drafted late in the first, bust but not the worst ever
>>69106131
>for free
>>69104601
have fun being a broke, alchoholic, wigger manlet the rest of your life Johnny
>>69104707
It was just no discipline. Spoiled rich shit who loves to party and couldn't adapt to the strict NFL system.
Now maybe. All he has to do to advance his career is not fuck with drugs and he's good and he can't do that.
The biggest bust has to be Trent Richardson. He was literally being compared to the Adrian Petersons and Walter Paytons of the world and ended up being the 2nd worst RB in NFL history.
>>69106331
>2nd worst
who's worse?
>>69106351
They made a calculation that only one RB averaged less yards per carry than Richardson and it was some literal who from the late 80s.
>>69106351
>http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/you-can-now-make-the-argument-that-trent-richardson-is-the-second-worst-running-back-ever/
Apparently Michael Haddix
>>69106131
>p-please respond
>>69104649
>I would of done the same thing as johnny and force my way out
By being a lazy alcoholic?
>>69104812
POTD
>>69106399
>>69106411
ohhh yeah I remember that discussion from last season
>Karim Abdul-Jabbar
>we were so close to having a mediocre NFL RB share a name with a GOAT-tier NBA legend, with the same spelling.
>>69105339
tBf, he was under pressure -oh, right
>>69105451
That's not Dwayne Bowe.
>>69106727
who was that other shitty Browns WR then? Travis Benjamin?
>>69106131
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>>69104601
who's that nigga?
>>69106110
>Bears
You what m8? It was the Saints and he did play for them.
>>69104649
He literally asked the Browns to draft him
>>69106131
The saddest part is he worked his ass off to try to get back into no JaWalrus shape, but no fucking GM in the league wants to be the guy who gave the 2nd biggest bust in NFL History a 2nd chance. Unless he came in an won an MVP you'd be almost forced to dump him after one season. And no chance you take a shot on him as a backup.
>>69106131
>>69106110
Kek this nigga thinks the Bears drafted Ricky only because Ditka was involved
>millennials
>>69105501
>>69106278
He will never be broke, unless you mean mentally.
