The best modern football player is still Zidane. We had the confirmation.
Video to remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7mXGMcpA0g
Best playmaker ever
>>69025978
That's not Thiago Motta
> le do a couple of nice flicks at key moments of the game to fool the casuals and commentators bad temper arab lad
Yeah, a maestro.
>>69026066
Underage spotted.
the worst messi game in slow motion is still more impressive than a "best" zidane game
Maradona > Laudrup > Riquelme > Zidane
prove me wrong protip you wont
>>69026066
I remember during the world cup that the opposite teams needed to put everytime 3 players on him.
That was ogre
>>69026066
>bad temper arab
I'd say that's independant of his quality as a player but it made him miss some key moments. It arguably cost France the 2006 WC and could have cost them the 1998 WC if not for a golden goal by Blanc in the 1/8th.
>>69026138
Maybe watch the video ?
>>69026139
Maradona > Zico > Platini > Laudrup >Zidane > Riquelme
>>69026196
>Zico > Platini > Laudrup >Zidane
no
>I rate Zizou
>>69026161
yes that expulsion at the 110" min had a huge impact on the game.
the score was 1-1 since the 19" but im sure at least 3 or 4 goals would have happened in those last 10 minutes with zidane.
>>69026281
LOOOL XDDD
>I rank zidane (pbuh)
>It will never be 1998 again
why live
>>69025978
Hello fellow berber
>>69026066
>that flag
>this topic
ALGERIA
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>I evaluate zidane
>>69026341
Zidane was pretty shit in that world cup.
He was great in '00 Euros though and overrated but good in '06.
>>69026282
They were still playing decently and were getting chances till then. After they just looked defeated and probably didn't start the penalty session in the best of minds.
Garrincha > Pelé > Rivelino > Zico > Maradona > Platini
>>69026481
Yes but no. I said modern player.
Mini 1990s
I am glad I was born in time to see him play the game. Thank you Zizou
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6SUm_wxkg
> Copa America MVP at age 20
>>69026066
>>69026744
fatnaldo
>>69025978
wel his first touch is amazing. what players still have that today apart from the obvious messi?
>>69026463
Penalty session : Trezeguet hits the trollbar, everyone else score
It's not like Trezeguet was facing his teamate Buffon.
Im sure the trollbar would have been different if Zidane was here.
>>69026949
Maybe if the captain is here and hasn't lost his cool like a 12 year old, it helps ease his teammates' nerves and he doesn't hit the trollbar.
>he fell for the zidane meme
>>69027003
He's probably Algerian m8.
>>69027003
>>69027028
Really ?
>Renowned for his elegance, vision, ball control and technique, Zidane was named the best European footballer of the past 50 years in the UEFA Golden Jubilee Poll.[5] He is widely regarded as one of the greatest players in the history of the game.[6][7][8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane
I'm not the only to think this apparently
>le get ejected and cost your country the world cup man
>>69027088
why are you arguing with pakis and obongo? it's not like they watch or know football over there
>>69027088
>zidane
>better than cruyff, beckenbauer, puskas and van basten
disgraceful
>>69025978
>the headbutt guy
>best
Yea, nice try. How can he be the best, if that's the only thing he's done?
>>69027088
Zidane was a great but hugely flawed player. Like many playmakers tend to do, he would often go completely missing in games - however, he had a habit of showing up when it matter (1998 WC and 2002 CL).
That being said, Zidane singlehandedly sabotaged his teams chances of winning another World Cup final, which is totally unforgivable. The last thing he ever did was lose his shit like a fucking manchild. Zidane had the ability to do something great every match, but he really only did it every other match. Overrated.
>>69026161
desu I don't think a lot of people in France hold the WC 2006 against Zidane. First because he's seen as the man who gave France its first WC title. Second because back then he was coming back from retirement, on his last leg, and right before the WC started people didn't really expect him to be anywhere near as good as he was. His performance against Brazil was simply beautiful.
Also Materazzi was a cunt and I think a lot of people were happy he got decked regardless of the consequences.
>>69027204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E29US24FvXM
>>69027204
>Zidane singlehandedly sabotaged his teams chances of winning another World Cup final
He fucking put the team there in the first place, which absolutely nobody in France would have bet on at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRlJHK_k6hQ
GOAT
>>69027354
And then he threw it all away.
Zidane could have scored 20 goals on the way to the final, it doesn't change the fact he absolutely fucked his team because he couldn't control his emotions.
>>69027337
Ronaldo or Messi would have shot this in the clouds desu
>>69027180
why are you even opening a football thread fatty?
>>69027419
People who reduce Zidane to his headbutt are the same people who reduce Henry to his handball against Ireland in the qualifiers. Completely clueless bandwagoners.
>>69027204
>Zidane singlehandedly sabotaged his teams chances of winning another World Cup final
1. Zidane was basically the only reason that incarnation of the French NT was in the final to begin with.
2. France lost on penalties, so it was hardly a sabotage like you claim.
Best players since 1990:
Zidane > Messi > Ronaldo > Henry > Ronaldinho
>>69027419
110" MINUTE
FUCK OFF
>>69027419
this.
Also Ronaldo got fat that's why he's overrated. Platini turned into a corrupt faggot so he's overrated. Garrincha fucked a goat so he's overrated.
>>69027419
man it was the 110th fucking minute, and it was 1-1 since 20th, we chocked in penalty thats all
>>69027508
irish post best post
Why do people always forget how well Ribery played in that world cup?
>>69027508
or Higuain fucks chances up left and right in the finals, hence Messi is overrated.
>>69027638
he just played well vs Spain, then he became a muslim
You now remember based Willy Sagnol
>Zidane's free kick at the last minute vs England in 2004
My dick still gets hard thinking about it even if everything went to shit after that game.
>>69027712
>1-0 for England until the 91" minute
>proceed to lose 1-2
Kek, it was almost as good as the Euro 00 final.
>>69025978
The first thing is that even people who d'ont know/care about football would recognize him as a great player, and mostly because he was truly elegant. In a pure sportive aspect he had everything, first touch, vision, inspiration, a fully skilled palette of technical gesture. He wasn't this fast, but his control were always perfect, allowing him to always win 2-3m to his direct opposant. Can use his two feet and his head too...
Which led me to what I think of him. 10 years had passed, and I forgive him because he made what no one else did, he choose his moment to leave. I mean yes it costs us and his team the WC, but what he did was like the perfect end of the movie, I'm sure he knew exactly what he did at the moment, and I'm sure he did it on purpose, just to show that he's higher than the game, just to prove that he rule it and he can choose if want to give us this WC or not. And for this he's more than just an excellent player, he's god among men...
>>69026463
penalties are just a coin toss. Italians were lucky that's all. they only won 1 legit world cup in a legit way.
Zidane is the reason I started watching/caring about football.
The 2006 world cup was during undergrad, and I had a French roommate who was watching every match in our living room. My girlfriend of 2 years had just broken up with me and I had just got back from getting a ton of booze to get drunk, and after telling my roommate what was up he says "hey man, just come watch this guy play football for a second, even if you don't know anything about it I guarantee he'll make you a fan." That guy was Zidane, and I became a fan instantly.
no homo
>>69027871
coo
>nobody mentions Ronaldinho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0ksVaLlaIw
>>69027973
>Ronaldinho in 2006 quarter final
>404 not found
Zidane was a fucking magician. Incredible ability to pass players even though he wasn't a particularly fast guy.
>>69027871
Back in 1998 I was a 14yo kid who didn't know shit about football. I went to watch the final on the TV in the camping where we were on vacation with a bunch of other people. Against Brazil, everybody had their fingers crossed but the expectations weren't high. And then Zidane scores. And does it again. Everybody's mind was blown.
>>69027973
Loved Ronnie, but his career wasn't as much of a roller-coaster of emotion and the end of it was almost pitiful, sadly.
>>69027855
>penalties are just a coin toss
I think that's overstated, especially when a player misses the penalty (rather than the keeper saving it)
>they only won 1 legit world cup in a legit way.
Remember what happened when France faced Italy in 1998?
>>69027785
I wonder what was going through his head from the minute 90 to the time when he and the rest of the team arrived at the hotel after losing the match.
Zidane and Ronaldinho were truly one of a kind with their ball control. It's just fucking insane.
Obviously it's hardly the only quality that makes a player great, hell Messi BTFO's everyone just by being good at dribbling. But either way it was a blast to watch them and I wonder why nobody ever became like them again.
Fucking Zidane, I jizz every time he juggles the ball across the field like a madman, it's even better than the roulette trick.
>>69028094
>How the fuck did he know about my sister?
>>69026066
What is it with these baseless claims?
>>69028094
I doubt he cared much. He's a guy who won everything, had retired from the national team, and only came back because the manager begged him and a few other veterans. The whole 2006 World Cup was just a bonus stage.
>>69028117
Since you bring ball control up and it's basically becoming a "most entertaining players to watch" discussion, I'd feel bad if I didn't shill some Okocha.
https://youtu.be/CmhYr2qX85g
>>69027485
Rommedahl > Nedved > Zidane > Henry tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IicmCu47pMo
I had to watch the video 3 times to understand what he did. Haven't seen it done like that since. Truly the best modern player.
>>69026066
>1-2
>>69027871
nice one
Why is Zidane so based bros?
>>69028094
I read the biography of the french manager at this time (Domenech), don't remember much thing about this episode, he just mentions that he saw Zidane, both didn't looked at each other and Zidane took his shower and waited in the locker. I could easily imagine that everybody left Zidane alone, it would have been stupid to confront him about this. Also it was a real shitstorm in France after the match TV, radio, and newspaper everybody wanted to know why he did this which led to strange scene where Zidane came on TV to explain what happened (also Zidane was and he still see as a really hy guy in France).
>>69028144
Kek
>>69028272
Pure class.
>>69027712
>Zidane scoring twice against England in extra time, going from 0-1 to a cheeky 2-1 in two minutes
/sp/ would have memed so hard.
>>69028284
*shy, sorry i'm really messing with my keyboard tonight...
>>69027485
>no scholes
lmao >7-0s
>>69028360
With Beckham failing a penalty when it was 1-0 for England.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF9IHQ8Z16w
>>69026744
That is downright sickening.
Is this was Eusebio was like?
>>69028479
With Gerrard making an assist to Henry, the second in his career
>>69027172
>Beckenbauer
>Van Basten
>implying
>>69028117
I believe Zidane had it all, either in terms of technics, ball control, shoot aimor field view
He represent the total football
Just watch the whole video and you'll see him juggle but also give extremely accurate passes to team mates. Let's not forget his ferocious defending and extreme stamina
>>69028234
In another style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skzj-aI6PU0 :^)
>>69028532
>extreme stamina
Yeah, reminder that in 2006 he was 34 years old and he played 6 full games + 20 extra minutes against Italy. The guy is a legend.
>>69026066
>Have Gerrard and Lampard as so called "legends"
I'd be jelly too mate
>>69027419
Listen you dumb yankee turd: nobody gives a fuck about the way your diseased shit culture relates to sports. Not only is Zidane one of the best to ever do it, but his red card is utterly irrelevant. There is no connection whatsoever between that and his team losing in the penalties. The only reason you say otherwise is because you're a simpleminded tool that establishes connections between unrelated events like a superstitious illiterate peasant.
>>69027485
>Messi > Ronaldo
KEK
>>69026267
Zico was certainly better than the others.
>>69027304
>desu I don't think a lot of people in France hold the WC 2006 against Zidane
this. france wasn't even gonna qualify until zidane came out of retirement
>>69027419
Technically he shouldn't have been sent off. He was careful to do it when non of the officials were watching.
We all know the Ref saw it on the big screen and sent him off after one of his assistants said he would 'say he saw it' to validate the refs action.
Still, any other action would have been farcical
>>69028679
R9 obviously, Mahmoud
>>69028568
ta gueule vieux suceur de parisien on s'en bat les couilles de ce vieux mec
Could someone explain how Zidane is better than Iniesta?
>>69028769
He doesn't get nutmegged
>>69028798
By De Rossi
>>69028704
yeah it was seen as a fucking miracle that zidane came back under such a moronic stupid braindead coach. French nowadays cultivate much more hate towards Domenech than Zizou about this WC.
Materazzi was a premium cunt anyway, the whole world of football had an orgasm when ZZ gave him a headbutt tbqh.
Zidane's performance against Brazil in 2006 is one of the single best international matches from one player ever - perhaps even one of the best in any form. He made legendary Brazilian players look like high schoolers. Zidane is the greatest of all time.
>>69028704
That, and it's easy to forgive the guy who gave France its first world cup after scoring 2 goals against Brazil 1998, followed by the Euro in 2000.
>>69028837
And that. Domenech is almost unanimously seen as a clown and a glorified cardboard cutout pretending to manage a team that was managing itself under the influence of its veterans.
>>69028854
And he did that at 34.
>>69028837
I don't think people originally realized Domenech was shit. I mean he was succesful with youth teams for years.
>>69028941
Exactly. I remember watching that as a young teenager just in awe. He was such an unbelievable player.
>>69028864
>the guy who gave France its first world cup after scoring 2 goals against Brazil 1998
I understand finals are literally the most important matches, but do not underestimate Thuram's semifinals miracle.
>>69028987
I know, in fact Zidane wasn't particularly amazing during that world cup, even getting a red card in the group stage. But still, he did shine at the most important time, against the most prestigious adversary, and in most people's mind he really is the hero of 98. Hell, I think a lot of people don't even remember who scored the 3rd goal, or even that there was a 3rd goal.
>>69029042
> even getting a red card in the group stage
Missing the Paraguay match where France suffered a lot.
>I think a lot of people don't even remember who scored the 3rd goal, or even that there was a 3rd goal.
Which is ironic since it was historical: it was the 100th goal of France in World Cup history or something similar.
Poor Petit, he was solid throughout the competition too.
>>69029042
I honestly dont remember anything about that final besides Zidane headers and Ronaldo's strange condition which dominated the news.
>>69028960
Hi communication was awful, I mean yeah he was taking all the pressure and attention acting like a clown and saying strange things, but this doesn't work for a NT the same way it works for a club. I think a NT manager as to drive passion within his communication in medias (like what did Conte before the match against Spain). Domenech was in war with media, and in a country were 3/4 of population don't really know anything about football it's not a great idea.
For what >my flag and >this post are worth...
I think he and Totti are the true GOATs.
>>69029042
I was 7 and it was Petit, it wasn't like it was some nobody
>>69029084
Yeah, the situation was really different back then as well. After 98 and 2000 France was seen as one of the big teams so anything short of final was a disaster.
But in 98 it was something else, France had only one one Euro 14 years before and didn't even qualify for the 94 world cup. They also struggled all the way to the final against Paraguay, Italy and Croatia. Winning against Brazil seemed near impossible, and not only they pulled it off but they even made a 3-0 spanking. Shit was magical.
![fa0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7n21p5s.jpg "fa0[1].jpg")
>>69028769
because uefalona
>people seriously rate iniesta
>>69028987
France 00 was peak France and Zidane was GOAT in that tournament. Also everyone at Madrid pointed to him as the best player there (Ronaldo, Figo, Beckham, Raul etc). Also WC 06 was his testimonial. Truly a GOAT
>>69029167
I wasn't saying Petit was a nobody, but his goal came in the last seconds when practically everybody was already celebrating, so it went pretty much forgotten compared to the very decisive and very much remembered brace of Zidane.
>>69026066
He's Berber
>>69029084
doesnt petit mean manlet in french or something?
>>69029173
And add all the shit L'Equipe writing about Jacquet, It was like a fairytale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vgLq9_Zpz0
Based as fuck
>>69029230
It means "small", or "short" when talking about a person.
>>69029230
It means small
>>69026744
>tfw you will never have ronaldo, romario and roberto carlos on the same team again
>tfw you will never see the pass behind the defenders to an sprinting ronaldo anymore
>tfw you will never see the cheeky plays right in the middle of the opponents defense
>>69029230
don't you have basic porn knowledge?
>>69029368
>open zidane thread
>people actually discussing about football
wow
>>69029390
thought it was spelled different for "small" when refered to a person. like pettite or something
Guti was better
>>69029438
petite is just the feminine word
>>69029368
>you will never see Roberto Carlos rifle a goal from midfield in a WC ever.
>>69029438
It's usually used to describe women so it's "petite", which is the feminine form of the word.
>>69028769
he's literally better than iniesta in every facet of the game, especially controlling the midfield from deep and not being a manlet
>>69029568
better at balding too
he looks good without hair
>>69029504
>you will never see roberto and zidane having fun in the left side of the field in madrid
>you will never see ronaldo and zidane quick passes
why even live?
>>69029368
>tfw you will never see romario, the original based gnome, scoring a header against 1.90m defenders
Zidane is my favorite player along with Maradona. The good thing is that I actually had the luck to enjoy watching Zidane play. I still remember that 2006 WC final, it was a very strange match
I wish he had won that final, he deserved it. He's one of the greatest players ever.
>>69029631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNkzREDD5DY
My favorite moment, everything was perfect in this action.
people forget about van der vaart all the time. he was and is still the best midfielder.
>>69025978
Ronaldo was better so no
>>69026139
>Riquelme
lel
>I rate Zidane
>>69026196
Seriously what the shit is Riquelme doing in that list to begin with?
>>69029368
>tfw you never saw Ronaldo never play together with Rui Costa in the same pitch
>tfw Rui only played with that faggot poser Penaldo instead
Just fuck my shit up family
Ronaldo came one season too late at Milan
>>69026139
Maradona had to deal with shit defenders. Modern football defenses are less shitty as they were, however forwards didn't change that much
>>69027485
Ronaldo is the best one
Ronaldinho and Henry shouldn't even be in this list
>>69027304
2bh, French were supporting the team only because of Zidane in 2006, nobody liked that team unlike in 98/2000
>>69030315
How le putain that Netherlands is not here ?
Just few years there were Persie, Van Der Sar, Kluivert
>Control + F
>Xavi
>0 of 0
Come on guys
>>69025978
Amen to that my good sir
>>69028769
He doesn't get owned by the worst Italian team of all time like Iniesta was today
>>69029153
>Totti
intothetrash.jpg
>>69029198
>Also everyone at Madrid pointed to him as the best player there
And Zizou himself rated R9 higher than him so it means nothing
>>69030930
>>69030950
Was your mother raped by a gang of hispanic men or what, Abdul
>>69029132
Daily reminder that Aimé Jacquet was hated before 98, everybody was calling for him to quit. Then he won and surprisingly everybody liked him again.
>>69031006
It's always the same thing
In 2006 no one believed in the team until that amazing game against Spain
Actually there were no reason to believe in this team during the group stage
>>69028234
Bergkamp was a poor man's Savicevic 2bh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZk-7fKzyBY
>>69030969
what is mutual respect. those two loved each other
there is an interview when ronaldo had just arrived at RM with both him and zidane. you can just tell they both respect each other very much
iniesta is better desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOLGifnMJk
>>69031703
Iniesta isn't half as good as Zidane
>>69031744
remove the nostalgia glasses faggot
>>69031776
All the goals, the touches, the passes
I can't put a shitty little tapas eater over Zidane
That 2006 QF against Brazil
In 10 years nobody will remember Iniesta
>>69031807
>I was a frog kid so he is the goat
not even top 10 and iniesta is better
deal with it, ahmed
You see, most of the Zidane haters are Americans and that is because they never actually saw him play.
Zizou is still easily my favorite player of all time, and he is not even from my country...
>>69031861
Turkey, Algeria, same garbage Mehmet
Also I'm sure I'm far older and watched him when I wasn't a preteen and of course I'm no burger
>>69031856
Comparing Zidane and Iniesta is stupid in itself
You can't compare a GOAT and a very good player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTisZ9nLPI
Besides all the greatness of his career I just want to talk about this fucking Panenka against Buffon in 2006
How based do you have to be to do something like that ? I mean the guy must have big golden balls in his panties
You have no ideas how hard the french commentator is shitting himself on this video
>>69031919
Go actually kill yourself for typing out something as cringeworthy as "kys"
>>69031938
I can still remember the pure joy I felt at that moment
>>69031929
He's no goat, it's funny because he was my favorite player back then as well but I guess I wasn't a child so the nostalgia isn't there for me
It's close to beckham levels of overrated with him for the kids back then, most only casually watching world cups and not club football as well
>>69031904
well you adopted their stupidity quite fast then
>>69031938
Besides all the greatness of his career I just want to talk about this fucking Panenka against Hart in 2012
How based do you have to be to do something like that ? I mean the guy must have big golden balls in his panties
>Unironically convinced himself it isn't nostalgia
>>69032008
Pirlo did that to show to Hart that he was shit-tier
I guess he was right
>>69031988
Yes yes, have nothing to say so spew the hurr american meme
Did very little in 98 aside from scoring in the final on one of the best teams, several players on that squad who were far superior in the tournament, literal who at Juve and ridiculously inconsistent at halal, great 2006 QF
Nostalgia and or casual world cup watchers
>>69026144
And 2008-2010 messi needed half the team on him and still managed to carry his team?
>>69029368
>tfw joga bonito is dead forever
Feels fucking awful
why are people saying Zidane is overrated? I've never heard this argument before. Were you guys too young to see him in his prime for Juventus or something?
>>69032181
He was rather inconsistent for Juve
>>69032181
>zidane was great at juve
LOL practically exposing yourself, young stuff
>>69032181
Teenagers wanting to be edgy
People who can't appreciate the greatness of Zidane just hate football altogether
>>69032216
Nah, he was actually my favorite player back then but I'm not deluded in thinking he was any sort of goat(even if I thought so at the time)
Then again I wasn't a child back then so I don't have that nostalgia, I see why people who were kids at the time also think Beckham is some sort of legend
>>69025978
>The man literally says Scholesy is better than him
>Every top footballer since 1995 has said that Scholesy is the most complete footballer alive
>Arguably nobody has ever had ball placement on level with him
>Autists on /sp/ still don't listen
Typical
>>69032245
Beckham could only cross the ball and take free kicks
He was a meme player after he left United
Zidane may not be the n°1 but he is among the best football players ever
>>69032245
why are you comparing him to a one dimensional player like beckham? Zidane was a complete midfielder with a huge skill set that consistently dominated matches.
He's pretty good at headbutting desu
Tiki taka and guardiola is the worst cancer to ever be conceived in football.
Not only did it made stupid faggot casuals think actual GOATs like Zizou are overrated, but made a brand of football so cancerous the whole sport changed for the worse, so now the game is only about either keeping the ball for as long as you can or play defensively and counter attack. That's it, and this situation has prevented the emergence and rise of new, actual stars like we had up until 2008 or 09 before it was only Messi or fake Ronaldo.
>>69032289
It's more to do with what nostalgia does to people, especially kids who grew up watching x athlete
>consistently dominated matches
Stop pretending you saw him consistently play, either that or you're retarded
>>69032302
>fake Ronaldo
Someone's butthurt
>>69032321
matches that mattered*
>>69032321
The game was different back then
Zidane as a n°10 had a target on his back
When he played for Bordeaux he was fouled a shitload of times per game because the opponents just wanted to break him
Defenses could do way more things than now
>>69025978
That's not Michael Laudrup you plep
>>69032356
80s/90s was the best timeperiod for defenders.
Hency why Madonna is the GOAT
>>69032367
Peter Schmeichel is your best player
Michael Laudrup was easily better than Zidane
https://youtu.be/LUMFlhLWzZ0
.
>>69032371
The space defenders gave you then was far larger than it is now, you saw more brutal tackles but it is far superior now, there is very little time and space now
>>69032388
I never said that Laudrup was our best player, but he was still the best playmayker in the world.
>>69032354
>Being consistent only during big games
>Being dominating all the time
Choose only one faggot
>>69032371
>Played during the most defensive and physically demanding period in football history
>Didn't play in the most physically demanding and full contact league
Go jerk off Messi some more lad the adults are talking
>>69032416
Yes but they are cut off at the knee because France had to massage their pussies and start the domino effect of taking the physicality and contact out if the sport just like the NFL did American football
>>69032439
He didn't mention messi retard and see >>69032216 replace zidane with messi, edgelord
>>69032411
>>69032418
You're delusional.
>>69032352
He's the fake Ronaldo tho, real Ronaldo is glorious R9, better in every single aspect of the game than Cristiano
>>69032461
Go watch talentless hoofball, I prefer technique and skill
>>69032464
>He didn't mention messi
Where prey tell did I say he did?
>Implying Messi is so amazing
He's a meme player who plays in meme league and has had a football silver spoon up his ass since he was 13 years old.
He's never proven himself in a real match in his life
>>69032439
big games are all that matter my man.
Showing up during important games is quite a quality for an athlete, rather than farming weak teams and disappearing when it counts.
Do you have any other reasons why you think he's overrated?
>>69032486
This
If only he hadn't been injured so often
>>69032486
>better in every single aspect of the game than Cristiano
Just stop, now you're making yourself look stupid
>>69032489
>No talent in hoofball
>I like my five grass
>I hate Leeds because they were big meanie heads
You're the reason football is dead...well you and Arsenal Wenger
>>69032498
>go jerk off messi
What's a real league? Spain's league curently dominates the sport and of course there's doing it against the best Europeans clubs
But I'm sure I'll take retarded opinions from imbeciles over legends past and present all acknowledging he's the best
>>69032534
>unironically yaps on about retarded shit while rating Cristiano ronaldo
Your two points contradict themselves, you're an idiot
>>69032505
>Do you have any other reasons why you think he's overrated?
Ability wise he isn't, career wise he is
I don't hate the guy I just don't like how meme worthy people are twords him, just like all the people that hate CR7 or the faggots that suck Messicock etc etc
He's good, he definitely isn't he best ever(though he is in the top 30 shortlist)
>>69032498
>meme league
Yet Spain is dominating Europe
>>69032542
>Spain's league curently dominates the sport
Spain only dominates it's joke of a league what the fuck have you been watching for the past decade?
>>69032560
>CR7 isn't undoubtedly the best player in the world at the moment
I'm surrounded by children
>>69032439
When football was still full contact there were like 2 defenders at most.
>messi
Didn't even mention him
Fucking retard.
>>69032486
Ronaldo has legendary longevity.
He's been among the top for so long, that's impressive on it's own.
Though prime for prime he's not the GOAT.
>>69032534
Tell me a single aspect cr7 is better than Ronaldo other than easy tap ins just so I can justify wasting this (You) on my post and we can all point and laugh at your ignorance.
>>69032565
>though he is in the top 30 shortlist
yea i agree, hes objectively around 1-5 on that list
I agree with you about cr7 and messi tho, the way donaldo transformed his game is unheard of and he deserves so much more credit for that.
>>69032569
>Spain is dominating Europe
>Gets ass kicked in Euro
>Implying CL is an accurate measurement
Why is it that I can never land in a thread where the people posting actually know what the fuck they re talking about?
>>69032596
Longevity.
Being dedicated and showing consistency.
He's a better winger.
>>69032614
>CL and EL don't count because reasons
>Spain beaten by Italy means La Liga is a joke
>Spain winning Eurocup twice in a row doesn't count
>>69032596
>Tell me a single aspect cr7 is better than Ronaldo other than easy tap ins
>First thing you do is belittle his scoring ability
Nice partiality there mexishit
Fine, hoe about his strength
You're fucking warped if you think fatnaldo was stronger
Literally CR7's only true shortcoming is that he's a winger
>>69032582
>Spain doesn't dominate Europe
>Cristiano is the best
You are the child and an idiot to boot, no one can take you seriously with your retarded opinions, you'd be laughed out of any serious discussion
Time for bed, no point in wasting sleep time on some imbecile who will spend all night trying to argue his absurd views
>>69032629
It's some retard who always does this around this time, tries to convince people his retarded opinions are fact
Last time I woke up (7hours) and the autist was still arguing with the board about it
He has no life
>>69032619
Healthy knees, I'll give you that. Thus allowing longevity. It's also impressive how the guy is never injured.
But it's a little unfair comparing cr7's ability as a winger when r9 was a clinical striker and Cristiano started off playing on the wings for most of his career until about 3 or 4 years ago when he's become the go to guy to score tap ins and penalties with the occasional header.
>>69032691
I think Cronaldo's goal record is all the more impressive when you consider he started out as a winger.
>a little unfair comparing cr7's ability as a winger when r9 was a clinical striker
It's also a little unfair to do the opposite.
In his prime there's probably no better pure striker than r9.
But was there a better winger than Cr7?
>>69032665
>>69032641
>>69032614
Fuck off burger, no one wants you here :^)
>>69032629
>Spain beaten by Italy means La Liga is a joke
No they're a joke because it's a league designed for stat farming and has 4 quality teams and the rest are all literally who's along with the fact that they're all so poor at defense that they have to pass to compensate for their inability to do so.
>Winning Eurocup twice in a row doesn't count
>2012
>Never played against the best German national team to ever exist
>2008
>Play against nobody the entire series except or Italy
>Park bench most of the game against severely weak German back line after goal in first half
Nigger please
>>69032689
>Last time I woke up (7hours) and the autist was still arguing with the board about it
>He has no life
I almost never come on /sp/ and the only time I was here earlier was in the Iceland England match threads
Get fucked
>>69032748
>no one wants you here :^)
All the more reason to stay
>>69032498
>Implying Messi is so amazing
>>69026744
Yeah, why did I have to scroll this far down before somebody mentions El Fenomeno?
Players like Zidane are great, but they come and go. To this day, I have yet to see another player in my lifetime that is even comparable to Ronaldo. Henry was up there, at least for Arsenal. But Ronaldo was an absolute freak of nature, for both club AND country on a consistent basis.
You know that old joke
>the problem with Arsenal is they always try to walk it in
Well, the problem with Ronaldo was that he could and quite often would actually walk it in. The real problem was trying to get him to mess up or fouling him before hand.
That was it. You either fouled him or prayed he'd make a mistake because for 90+ minutes you were his bitch.
>creates chance for himself
>nah, fuck that let me meg this dude real quick
>now an even greater look on goal
>hold on, gonna slow down to get their hopes up
>broken ankles, broken ankles everywhere
>he's clean through, 1v1 with the keeper now
>nice mustache, faggot
>dribbles by helpless keeper just him and the goal now
>wait before I score, huehuehue this will be funny...
>one last shot fake sends a defender or two sliding in to crush their nuts on the post
>huehuehue gg fucking euro fags
Ronaldo was the fucking man. Must've been demoralizing having some punk ass huehue laughing, buck teeth and all, in your face after dribbling half your team for the third time.
>>69029368
Man Brazil was really GOATat that time;
Wht about the Brazil youth system ? Did something changed significantly since the rise of these players ? Because it's really a shame that Brazil "copies" european football now.
>>69032614
He's right though, la Liga is a very long and stressfull league, every match is a battle.
These players are just fucking tired.
That plus the fact that you can't put some real, atletico and barça players in a team and hope they'll all get along easily, club comes first in their mentality.
>>69029153
>totti
>not Baggio or Del Piero
>>69034048
> Del Piero
> better than based Totti
kys
>>69032596
Cristiano is better in the air. Ronaldo was very average at heading the ball.
I think its obvious R9 is a far better footballer though. Cristiano did extremely well in getting to this high level though.
>>69025978
Platini was pretty amazing at this time, but it's hard to compare players from different eras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXPqEbvIkpM
>>69032974
I loved Ronaldo, really a perfect striker with speed, technique, and power. That said, he didn't last long, and in the 1998 final he was practically invisible.
Zidane is exceptional because he wasn't just a shooting star, he kept shining through the years and all the way to his last game.
>>69032614
>Implying CL is an accurate measurement
>the fact that spanish clubs roll over every other teams from other europen leagues is no mesurement of how La Liga is superior to other european leagues
Well, Zidane won the WC, the Euros, and almost won another WC.
He was a real 10 for the French team.
And he didn't miss some important penalty :^)
>>69035488
This.
>Baggio 1994
>Beckham 2004
>Messi 2016
Zidane didn't choke under pressure
>>69030413
ronalldo i karit
>MOTM in WC final
>MOTM in CL final
>Euro winner
>Dragged a bunch of autists to the final in 2006, and this is proven by the fact that France have won two (two) knockout games combined in the Euros/WC since he retired, and they've both been in the past two years
>Doesn't do anything versus the 16th place La Liga team in March
>He is a meme
What did they mean by this?
>>69035861
Zidane choked in the 2006 final. I know you frogs say it didn't mean anything, but wasn't Zidane always the first choice penalty taker and would go first in shootouts? If he was there, he would have probably converted and the shootout would have been completely different
>>69036032
He didn't choke, his football was impeccable and he scored his penalty. Losing his nerve is something entirely different.
>>69035861
>Zidane didn't choke under pressure
>defender makes off hand joke
>get red carded
>>69036070
See >>69036068
Not to mention it was his last match, at 34 years old, having carried the team to the final and having previously won everything that mattered.
For the French supporters and players who weren't around in 1998, I guess 2006 was a big loss, but for Zidane and the other vets who retired that year it was a pretty solid ending.
>>69036108
>No one is allowed to complain because he took them to the final
>Losing is alright because they won it in 98
These are two arguments I don't subscribe to, sorry
>>69036168
Not what I said at all. They can complain all they want, the fact remains that Zidane has a WC, a CL, a Euro, and a WC final in his pocket.
>>69027855
>penalties are just a coin toss. Italians were lucky that's all.
if we're going with that we lost 2 world cup on penalties, in 1994 and 1998.
>>69036349
>1998
I don't remember Italy being in the final
>good thread actually discussing the sport
>half of it is a burger telling everyone they're wrong
why tho
>goat against Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal, England
>shit against Greece, South Korea and Gibraltar
hurrr he is overrated
>>69036418
its just someone who thinks Zidane was inconsistent because he didnt perform in a useless league game in the middle of the season.
The fact is outside of the 98 CL final (he was a ghost) he was usually the best player on the pitch in big games
>>69033229
They want to sell solid player now, unstable and fragile raw talent like Ronaldinho or Ronaldo aren't preserved.
>>69029198
and in the game against italy he was the best player until he lost his head.
He pressed, took the ball, held it, let his teammates move forward and position themselves, dribbled players and drew 2 to 4 opponents on him freeing some other teammate to pass the ball to.
He did alone what we had pirlo totti and gattuso do.
>>69030950
>>69034048
totti is not amont the best of all time, but he was among the best active players in his prime, he he seriously underrated.
>>69034220
he would have been, had it not been for his injury. he could have been one of the GOATs ever
>>69036548
why was totti never called up after 2006?
>>69035966
>>Dragged a bunch of autists to the final in 2006, and this is proven by the fact that France have won two (two) knockout games combined in the Euros/WC since he retired, and they've both been in the past two years
He wasn't alone. Thuram and Makelele came back with him and were great too (and also re-retired with him).
What the two legends think of each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uWqfrcXIRo
